On 3/24/07, Vivian McPhail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree with Sven, but...
What I want to push is a 'mathematically sound' numeric prelude. A proper
numerical prelude should have bona fide mathematical obects like groups,
rings, and fields underlying common numerical classes. It would be
why do people insist that what they don't need has no right to live?
also, there doesn't seem to be anything left in the Prelude itself, it just re-exports
everything from one particular collection of modules. so the Prelude isn't really a useful
target for complaints anymore, only the
On Sunday 25 March 2007 04:38, Nobuhito Mori wrote:
[...] Though there are clearly link errors, I can not understand why it
happens. By option -package ALUT, libalut.a (which made by pexports and
dlltool because I do not know original alut.lib can be used by mingw) and
other necessary
Vivian McPhail wrote:
What I want to push is a 'mathematically sound' numeric prelude. A proper
numerical prelude should have bona fide mathematical obects like groups,
rings, and fields underlying common numerical classes. It would be edifying
to the student who discovered that the particular
Stefan O'Rear wrote:
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 08:05:25PM +, Paul Johnson wrote:
strings, are instances of the Monoid class (i.e. they implement mplus in
the way you would expect). You just have to wrap a function around
Actually they don't.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ ghc-6.4.2 -v0
Hi,
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2007/3/25, Jacques Carette [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Some classes would become even more important: monoid, groupoid,
semi-group, loop (semi-group with identity), etc. But all of those are,
to the average programmer (and many a mathematician), just as scary as
Monad.
Of course, when
I've submitted:
http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/haskell-prime/ticket/124
which I hope covers the essence of the result of this thread.
Thanks
Ian
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Vivian McPhail wrote:
What I want to push is a 'mathematically sound' numeric prelude. A proper
numerical prelude should have bona fide mathematical obects like groups,
rings, and fields underlying common numerical classes.
..
Some classes would become even more important: monoid, groupoid,
On 25/03/07, Ian Lynagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've submitted:
http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/haskell-prime/ticket/124
which I hope covers the essence of the result of this thread.
I'd hate to have to import things like Data.Function for such trivial
functions as (.) and ($), which
[reply-to set; dropping libraries]
On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 04:33:51PM +0100, David House wrote:
On 25/03/07, Ian Lynagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've submitted:
http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/haskell-prime/ticket/124
which I hope covers the essence of the result of this thread.
My main worry is that this can be a horrible time sink without a clear
path to success and, worse, known obstacles in the way.
For example: we know that all Monads are Functors, but that is not
expressed in the type classes, because it would be too much a pain to do
so. That pain is heavily
On 25/03/07, Ian Lynagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You wouldn't have to import a number of different modules like
Data.Function, you could just import Prelude.
I guess what I was getting at was that Haskell is very good at
blurring the distinction between userland function and actual syntax.
On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 04:05:51PM +0100, Ian Lynagh wrote:
I've submitted:
http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/haskell-prime/ticket/124
which I hope covers the essence of the result of this thread.
My goal of sparking thought was sucessful :)
I like Claus Reinke's proposal, it solves
Thanks for reply. I appreciate your minute explanation. I understand what is
the problem more clearly.
I added a detailed information of my installing OpenAL/ALUT and so on, to
bug report Ticket #1243.
Looking at the OpenAL and ALUT Haskell packages, I think that there are
some
On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 12:59:26AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
G'day all.
Quoting Jason Creighton [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Wouldn't this be a non-issue if the map in Prelude was fmap?
It would be a non-issue if a number of things were different, such
as if Data.Map were a Functor and map
I don't think he would be confused with functor in SML.
Call functors static classes and you cut the language from intuition. In
such language anybody can express anything. But to arrive at something one
needs intuition!
Now, what mathematically blind programmers can gain from learning about
G'day all.
Quoting Jason Creighton [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Data.Map is a Functor:
[...]
...but perhaps it's not a Functor in some earlier version of the
library?
Possibly, if by earlier version you mean FiniteMap.
At any rate, since Map is a Functor, I vote for Data.Map.map to be
deleted. Any
Hi
At any rate, since Map is a Functor, I vote for Data.Map.map to be
deleted. Any disagreements before I submit the ticket?
Yes. It will break 100's of applications.
If you are going to do this, you probably need to propose it be marked
as depreciated, and then deleted sometime years into
G'day all.
Quoting Neil Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Yes. It will break 100's of applications.
That sounds like a challenge! Find me 100 applications that use
Data.Map.map and I will eat crow.
Cheers,
Andrew Bromage
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I can contribute a few.
On Mar 26, 2007, at 02:14 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
G'day all.
Quoting Neil Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Yes. It will break 100's of applications.
That sounds like a challenge! Find me 100 applications that use
Data.Map.map and I will eat crow.
Cheers,
Andrew
ajb:
G'day all.
Quoting Neil Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Yes. It will break 100's of applications.
That sounds like a challenge! Find me 100 applications that use
Data.Map.map and I will eat crow.
Well, it'll break 100s of modules :-)
$ find . -name '*.hs' -exec grep -l
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
G'day all.
Quoting Neil Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Yes. It will break 100's of applications.
That sounds like a challenge! Find me 100 applications that use
Data.Map.map and I will eat crow.
Well, I haven't written 100s of applications (yet), but I get hits on
Hi
Yes. It will break 100's of applications.
That sounds like a challenge! Find me 100 applications that use
Data.Map.map and I will eat crow.
http://www.google.com/codesearch?hl=enq=+lang:haskell+Map.mapstart=10sa=N
Since most people import qualified Data.Map as Map. Not all of those
are
David Brown wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
G'day all.
Quoting Neil Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Yes. It will break 100's of applications.
That sounds like a challenge! Find me 100 applications that use
Data.Map.map and I will eat crow.
Well, I haven't written 100s of applications (yet),
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