[Haskell-cafe] ANNOUNCE: smt-lib-0.0.1

2010-07-17 Thread Tom Hawkins
smt-lib [1] is a library for reading and writing SMT-LIB [2] files via Haskell. SMT-LIB is a common language and benchmark suite used by most SMT solvers. Currently the library supports the full SMT-LIB version 2 syntax. However at this time, only command scripts -- not responses -- can be

[Haskell-cafe] ANNOUNCE: feldspar 0.3

2010-07-17 Thread Emil Axelsson
On behalf of the Feldspar team, I'm happy to announce a new release of the embedded language Feldspar and its C code generator: http://hackage.haskell.org/package/feldspar-language http://hackage.haskell.org/package/feldspar-compiler The main changes in 0.3 are: * Signed/unsigned

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site

2010-07-17 Thread Johan Tibell
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Christopher Done chrisd...@googlemail.com wrote: On 16 July 2010 20:37, Don Stewart d...@galois.com wrote: chrisdone: Regarding the Haskell Platform, maybe a summer theme is in order? Sunrise, here's a whole platform upgrade. Get it while it's hot, etc.

Re: [Haskell-cafe] in-equality type constraint?

2010-07-17 Thread wren ng thornton
Christopher Lane Hinson wrote: On Fri, 16 Jul 2010, Paul L wrote: Does anybody know why the type families only supports equality test like a ~ b, but not its negation? I would suggest that type equality is actually used for type inference, whereas proof of type inequality would have no

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site

2010-07-17 Thread Christopher Done
On 17 July 2010 01:43, Don Stewart d...@galois.com wrote: Here's a first cut in the repo with the new design converted to CSS    http://code.haskell.org/haskell-platform/download-website/ If anyone would like to clean it up further, please send me patches to the style.css file or index.html.

Re: [Haskell-cafe] in-equality type constraint?

2010-07-17 Thread Steffen Schuldenzucker
On 07/17/2010 03:50 AM, Gábor Lehel wrote: Does TypeEq a c HFalse imply proof of inequality, or unprovability of equality? Shouldn't these two be equivalent for types? On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 2:32 AM, Steffen Schuldenzucker sschuldenzuc...@uni-bonn.de wrote: On 07/17/2010 01:08 AM, Paul L

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Hot-Swap with Haskell

2010-07-17 Thread wren ng thornton
Brandon S Allbery KF8NH wrote: On 7/16/10 05:21 , Andy Stewart wrote: IMO, haskell interpreter is perfect solution for samll script job. But i'm afraid haskell interpreter is slow for *large code*, i don't know, i haven't try this way... Hugs? Or you can try implementing (or finding) a SASL

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site

2010-07-17 Thread Max Rabkin
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 1:43 AM, Don Stewart d...@galois.com wrote: Here's a first cut in the repo with the new design converted to CSS    http://code.haskell.org/haskell-platform/download-website/ If anyone would like to clean it up further, please send me patches to the style.css file or

[Haskell-cafe] Re: in-equality type constraint?

2010-07-17 Thread oleg
Ryan Ingram wrote: But it doesn't generalize; you need to create a witness of inequality for every pair of types you care about. One can do better, avoiding the quadratic explosion. One merely needs to establish a map from a type to a suitable, comparable representation -- for example, to a

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site

2010-07-17 Thread Serguey Zefirov
2010/7/17 Don Stewart d...@galois.com: Here's a first cut in the repo with the new design converted to CSS    http://code.haskell.org/haskell-platform/download-website/ If anyone would like to clean it up further, please send me patches to the style.css file or index.html. I have big fonts

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site

2010-07-17 Thread Andrew Coppin
Christopher Done wrote: Maybe you could work on a theme like this. Probably OTT. http://imgur.com/NjiVh Just an idea. My Inkscape-fu is weak. I love the way he says my fu is weak after just posting a single image which is radically better than anything I have ever produced in 20+ years

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site

2010-07-17 Thread Andrew Coppin
Thomas Schilling wrote: It would be great if the new design were compatible with the new wiki design ( http://lambda-haskell.galois.com/haskellwiki/ ). It doesn't have to be *that* similar, just compatible. Hmm. That's really not very pretty... (Or maybe it's just that I dislike brown? I

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site

2010-07-17 Thread Thomas Schilling
Haters gonna hate. The new wiki will have a user preference to switch back to the default monobook style. You can always do that if you want. It doesn't work fully, yet, but that's on my ToDo list. On 17 July 2010 11:53, Andrew Coppin andrewcop...@btinternet.com wrote: Thomas Schilling wrote:

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site

2010-07-17 Thread Andrew Coppin
Thomas Schilling wrote: Haters gonna hate. Well, I don't *hate* it. It just looks a little muddy, that's all. I tend to go for bright primary colours. But, as you say, each to their own... The actual layout isn't bad. A bit tall-and-thin, but otherwise OK. The new wiki will have a user

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site

2010-07-17 Thread Christopher Done
On 17 July 2010 13:37, Andrew Coppin andrewcop...@btinternet.com wrote: Thomas Schilling wrote: Haters gonna hate. Well, I don't *hate* it. It just looks a little muddy, that's all. I tend to go for bright primary colours. But, as you say, each to their own... The actual layout isn't bad. A

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Plotting Vectors with GnuPlot Wrapper

2010-07-17 Thread Henning Thielemann
Maryam Moghadas schrieb: Hi When I use Vectors as a PlotStyle in Graphics.Gnuplot.Simple, the output curve.gp http://curve.gp and curve0.csv is not generated correctly. For example when I write in ghci: plotPathStyle [] (PlotStyle Vectors (DefaultStyle 1)) [(1,1),(2,7)] Yes, my wrapper

RE: [Haskell-cafe] Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site

2010-07-17 Thread Phyx
Hi Chris, I like it, I just have 2 small observations: 1. I don't think it's actually centered, on my resolution from the left to the The Haskell Platform is about 8 inches, but from the right to it is 11. My eyes just keep telling me something's wrong 2. Could you maybe update the windows

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site

2010-07-17 Thread Christopher Done
Have you got SVG or PNG versions of those logos? On 17 July 2010 14:54, Phyx loneti...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris, I like it, I just have 2 small observations: 1. I don't think it's actually centered, on my resolution from the left to the The Haskell Platform is about 8 inches, but from the

RE: [Haskell-cafe] Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site

2010-07-17 Thread Phyx
Wikipedia has both http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Windows_7_logo.svg I don't have an svg editor, but you'd have to remove the Windows 7 text, but that should be trivial. -Original Message- From: Christopher Done [mailto:chrisd...@googlemail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 14:58

RE: [Haskell-cafe] ghc api printing of types

2010-07-17 Thread Phyx
Hey Daniel, You were right, that is the correct way of doing it, I just found out the type I was trying to print didn't have the context at that level anymore, I had to look one position higher in the ast. Thanks, Phyx -Original Message- From: Daniel Gorín [mailto:dgo...@dc.uba.ar]

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Small flexible projects a possible niche for Haskell - your statement, please...

2010-07-17 Thread Paul Johnson
On 16/07/10 05:41, Nick Rudnick wrote: In consequence, an 8-student-project with two B.Sc. theses is raised as a pilot to examine the possibilities of using Haskell in the combination small team with limited resources and experience in a startup setting - we want to find out whether Haskell

[Haskell-cafe] Re: in-equality type constraint?

2010-07-17 Thread Paul L
Thanks a lot for the explanation. Do you think supporting type inequality test in type families would require UndecidableInstances? For the reason that wren ng thornton mentioned? On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 4:56 AM, o...@okmij.org wrote: Ryan Ingram wrote: But it doesn't generalize; you need to

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site

2010-07-17 Thread Thomas Schilling
Webdesign for an open source project is pretty much doomed from the beginning. Design requires a few opinionated people rather than democracy. This is design is a result of a haskell-cafe thread which naturally involved a lot of bikeshedding. It has its flaws, but it's certainly better than the

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site

2010-07-17 Thread Christopher Done
On 17 July 2010 16:21, Thomas Schilling nomin...@googlemail.com wrote: Webdesign for an open source project is pretty much doomed from the beginning.  Design requires a few opinionated people rather than democracy.  This is design is a result of a haskell-cafe thread which naturally involved a

Re: [Haskell-cafe] is this a bug ?

2010-07-17 Thread Daniel Fischer
On Saturday 17 July 2010 05:39:00, gat...@landcroft.co.uk wrote: On Sat 17/07/10 04:17 , Alexander Solla a...@2piix.com sent: Why are you performing unsafe IO actions? They don't play nice with laziness. OK, fair cop, but without the unsafe IO action, it still misbehaves.

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site

2010-07-17 Thread Brandon S Allbery KF8NH
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/17/10 06:49 , Andrew Coppin wrote: I love the way he says my fu is weak after just posting a single image which is radically better than anything I have ever produced in 20+ years of doing computer graphics! o_O Don't conflate ability to

[Haskell-cafe] RE: Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site (Don Stewart)

2010-07-17 Thread Niemeijer, R.A.
Here's my take on the new design: Screenshot: http://imgur.com/9LHvk.jpg Live version: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/623671/haskell_platform_redesign/index.htm___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site

2010-07-17 Thread Andrew Coppin
Brandon S Allbery KF8NH wrote: On 7/17/10 06:49 , Andrew Coppin wrote: I love the way he says my fu is weak after just posting a single image which is radically better than anything I have ever produced in 20+ years of doing computer graphics! o_O Don't conflate ability to operate a

Re: [Haskell-cafe] RE: Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site (Don Stewart)

2010-07-17 Thread Christopher Done
On 17 July 2010 18:18, Niemeijer, R.A. r.a.niemei...@tue.nl wrote: Here's my take on the new design: Screenshot: http://imgur.com/9LHvk.jpg Live version: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/623671/haskell_platform_redesign/index.htm O, I like it! Nice one for building it. Would you consider doing a

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site

2010-07-17 Thread Mark Lentczner
On Jul 16, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Don Stewart wrote: If anyone is interested in a 2010.2 series design for the HP site, the repository containing the stylesheet is here: http://code.haskell.org/haskell-platform/ I like the content. The layout has some flaws when rendered on my environment

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site

2010-07-17 Thread Christopher Done
Thought I'd bring Neimeijer's design into the mix, because I think it's brilliant (and it's been built): (For some reason it didn't appear in this thread in my GMail inbox; perhaps the Subject field got altered. Posting this here incase it happened like that for everyone else so that we can

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site

2010-07-17 Thread Don Stewart
allbery: like to repeat one request: Please, please, please make it easier to - Download older versions of HP. - Find out which HP release contains what. - Figure out what the difference between release X and release Y is. +1 I'd consider this mandatory. It's amazing how many projects

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site

2010-07-17 Thread Andrew Coppin
Don Stewart wrote: allbery: like to repeat one request: Please, please, please make it easier to - Download older versions of HP. - Find out which HP release contains what. - Figure out what the difference between release X and release Y is. +1 I'd consider this mandatory. It's

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site

2010-07-17 Thread Don Stewart
markl: I like the content. The layout has some flaws when rendered on my environment (Safari 4, but with perhaps narrower than most peoples windows): * The background image tiled looks pretty bad - since I see repeats and it doesn't really tile. Yes, noted. * The three columns at the

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site

2010-07-17 Thread Don Stewart
andrewcoppin: Don Stewart wrote: allbery: like to repeat one request: Please, please, please make it easier to - Download older versions of HP. - Find out which HP release contains what. - Figure out what the difference between release X and release Y is. +1 I'd consider this

[Haskell-cafe] Cabal lib (Setup.hs), --package-db, --enable-shared, haskell platform

2010-07-17 Thread Albert Y . C . Lai
I accidentally found a rarely encountered omission in Cabal (the lib, because via Setup.hs) by building Haskell Platform as shared libs from source. It is rare because you have to use both --enabled-shared and --package-db=blah together to run into it. --package-db=blah is already rare enough

[Haskell-cafe] Re: Cabal lib (Setup.hs), --package-db, --enable-shared, haskell platform

2010-07-17 Thread Albert Y . C . Lai
and I forgot to say the Cabal lib tried is already version 1.8.0.6 ghc is 6.12.3 ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe

RE: [Haskell-cafe] Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site

2010-07-17 Thread Phyx
I still like the original design on http://imgur.com/NjiVh a lot better, It has a simple modern design to it in my opinion :) -Original Message- From: haskell-cafe-boun...@haskell.org [mailto:haskell-cafe-boun...@haskell.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Done Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010

RE: [Haskell-cafe] RE: Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site (Don Stewart)

2010-07-17 Thread Niemeijer, R.A.
From: Christopher Done [chrisd...@googlemail.com] Sent: 17 July 2010 19:23 To: Niemeijer, R.A. Cc: haskell-cafe@haskell.org Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] RE: Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site (Don Stewart) O, I like it! Nice one for

Re: [Haskell-cafe] RE: Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site (Don Stewart)

2010-07-17 Thread Felipe Lessa
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Christopher Done chrisd...@googlemail.com wrote: Anyway, fantastic! What does everyone else think? I like it as well. There are only two nitpicks: I think that icon for Linux is lame, and I get confused by the image of the guy diving. Thanks, =) -- Felipe.

[Haskell-cafe] ANN: hledger 0.11

2010-07-17 Thread Simon Michael
hledger 0.11 is released! Thanks to all testers and to Michael Snoyman for much help keeping up with Yesod. Best, -Simon home: http://hledger.org Release notes: 2010/07/17 hledger 0.11 * split --help, adding --help-options and --help-all/-H, and make it the

Re: [Haskell-cafe] RE: Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site (Don Stewart)

2010-07-17 Thread Brandon S Allbery KF8NH
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/17/10 13:23 , Christopher Done wrote: On 17 July 2010 18:18, Niemeijer, R.A. r.a.niemei...@tue.nl wrote: Screenshot: http://imgur.com/9LHvk.jpg Live version: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/623671/haskell_platform_redesign/index.htm O, I like

Re: [Haskell-cafe] RE: Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site (Don Stewart)

2010-07-17 Thread briand
On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 18:02:05 -0400 Brandon S Allbery KF8NH allb...@ece.cmu.edu wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/17/10 13:23 , Christopher Done wrote: On 17 July 2010 18:18, Niemeijer, R.A. r.a.niemei...@tue.nl wrote: Screenshot: http://imgur.com/9LHvk.jpg Live

Re: [Haskell-cafe] RE: Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site (Don Stewart)

2010-07-17 Thread Miguel Mitrofanov
Well, Linux fanboys are known for spending too much time with their computers compiling OS kernel or building world, no surprise their eyes aren't in place. On 18 Jul 2010, at 02:54, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 18:02:05 -0400 Brandon S Allbery KF8NH allb...@ece.cmu.edu

[Haskell-cafe] Best links for Haskell Platform distro packages?

2010-07-17 Thread Don Stewart
Can distro maintainers confirm these are the best links for each distro package? Debian http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/haskell-platform (or should it be sid?) Fedora: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/haskell-platform Gentoo:

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Best links for Haskell Platform distro packages?

2010-07-17 Thread Ivan Lazar Miljenovic
Don Stewart d...@galois.com writes: Can distro maintainers confirm these are the best links for each distro package? [snip] Gentoo: http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Gentoo/HaskellPlatform Ugh, that would be the right page if we bothered to keep it maintained. I might do so

Re: [Haskell-cafe] RE: Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site (Don Stewart)

2010-07-17 Thread Ivan Lazar Miljenovic
Miguel Mitrofanov miguelim...@yandex.ru writes: Well, Linux fanboys are known for spending too much time with their computers compiling OS kernel or building world, no surprise their eyes aren't in place. That's just Gentoo fanboys, thank you very much. Stop trying to give the rest of the

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site

2010-07-17 Thread Miguel Pagano
Andrew Coppin andrewcop...@btinternet.com writes: Anyway, I'm loving the current theme. But if we're redesigning the site, I'd like to repeat one request: Please, please, please make it easier to - Download older versions of HP. - Find out which HP release contains what. - Figure out what

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Best links for Haskell Platform distro packages?

2010-07-17 Thread Jens Petersen
   Fedora:        https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/haskell-platform Yes, thanks that is fine. Jens ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe

[Haskell-cafe] Re: unusual behavior from cabal

2010-07-17 Thread Simon Michael
On 7/16/10 9:36 PM, Ivan Lazar Miljenovic wrote: Michael Litchardmich...@schmong.org writes: cabal: dependencies conflict: happstack-server-0.5.1 requires time ==1.1.4 however time-1.1.4 was excluded because happstack-server-0.5.1 requires time ==1.2.0.3 I did battle with this one today.

[Haskell-cafe] Re: Best links for Haskell Platform distro packages?

2010-07-17 Thread Ahn, Ki Yung
2010년 07월 17일 16:53, Don Stewart 쓴 글: Can distro maintainers confirm these are the best links for each distro package? Debian http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/haskell-platform (or should it be sid?) http://packages.debian.org/haskell-platform I am not a maintainer

Re: [Haskell-cafe] RE: Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site (Don Stewart)

2010-07-17 Thread Gregory Crosswhite
Yes, but our freshly compiled binaries have far more nutrients then your factory produced ones! Besides, the world would be a far better place if everyone compiled local rather than having binaries shipped to them from half-way across the globe... On 7/17/10 4:08 PM, Miguel Mitrofanov

[Haskell-cafe] Re: Handling absent maintainers

2010-07-17 Thread Mark Wotton
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Mark Wotton mwot...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I've recently had problems with haskell-src-meta. While it's a great package, it doesn't currently compile on GHC 6.12, and Matt Morrow doesn't seem to be around to push the version that does to Hackage. Our

Re: [Haskell-cafe] RE: Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site (Don Stewart)

2010-07-17 Thread wren ng thornton
Niemeijer, R.A. wrote: Here's my take on the new design: Screenshot: http://imgur.com/9LHvk.jpg Live version: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/623671/haskell_platform_redesign/index.htm Is it just me, or does aligning [OSX,Win,Linux] `zip` [Comprehensive, Robust, CuttingEdge] send the wrong

Re: [Haskell-cafe] RE: Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site (Don Stewart)

2010-07-17 Thread Don Stewart
wren: Niemeijer, R.A. wrote: Here's my take on the new design: Screenshot: http://imgur.com/9LHvk.jpg Live version: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/623671/haskell_platform_redesign/index.htm Is it just me, or does aligning [OSX,Win,Linux] `zip` [Comprehensive, Robust, CuttingEdge] send the

Re: [Haskell-cafe] RE: Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site (Don Stewart)

2010-07-17 Thread Christopher Lane Hinson
On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, wren ng thornton wrote: Niemeijer, R.A. wrote: Here's my take on the new design: Screenshot: http://imgur.com/9LHvk.jpg Live version: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/623671/haskell_platform_redesign/index.htm Is it just me, or does aligning [OSX,Win,Linux] `zip`

Re: [Haskell-cafe] RE: Design for 2010.2.x series Haskell Platform site (Don Stewart)

2010-07-17 Thread Ivan Lazar Miljenovic
wren ng thornton w...@freegeek.org writes: Niemeijer, R.A. wrote: Here's my take on the new design: Screenshot: http://imgur.com/9LHvk.jpg Live version: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/623671/haskell_platform_redesign/index.htm Is it just me, or does aligning [OSX,Win,Linux] `zip`

[Haskell-cafe] Re: Best links for Haskell Platform distro packages?

2010-07-17 Thread Justin Bogner
Don Stewart d...@galois.com writes: For Ubuntu, I find a few confusing things: Ubuntu: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/haskell-platform But nothing at: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/haskell-platform But there's instructions for the src build:

[Haskell-cafe] possible bug in default module lookup scheme / or invalid haskell?

2010-07-17 Thread Carter Schonwald
Hello All, I'm not sure if this either a bug in how ghc does path/module lookup or it simply is invalid haskell: consider modules A, A.B and A.B.C where A imports A.B, and A.B imports A.B.C with the following file system layout A.hs A/B.hs A/B/C.hs minimal file examples: module A where

Re: [Haskell-cafe] possible bug in default module lookup scheme / or invalid haskell?

2010-07-17 Thread Ivan Lazar Miljenovic
Carter Schonwald carter.schonw...@gmail.com writes: Hello All, I'm not sure if this either a bug in how ghc does path/module lookup or it simply is invalid haskell: consider modules A, A.B and A.B.C where A imports A.B, and A.B imports A.B.C with the following file system layout A.hs