Re: [Haskell-cafe] A use case for *real* existential types

2013-05-10 Thread Andres Löh
rmWatch nd1 wd3 -- These lines cause type errors: -- rmWatch nd1 wd0 -- rmWatch nd0 wd3 printInotifyDesc nd0 printInotifyDesc nd1 Cheers, Andres -- Andres Löh, Haskell Consultant Well-Typed LLP, http://www.well-typed.com

Re: [Haskell-cafe] GSoC - A Cabal Project

2013-04-30 Thread Andres Löh
easier to understand. (And yes, I would be willing to be mentor for this project.) Cheers, Andres -- Andres Löh, Haskell Consultant Well-Typed LLP, http://www.well-typed.com ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http

Re: [Haskell-cafe] version of containers fixed by template-haskell?

2013-04-17 Thread Andres Löh
ghc is installed globally, and local packages should not break it. still cabal-install says so (and I don't dare to test ...) If you're installing locally or (even better) in a sandbox, then you cannot completely (i.e., irrevocably) break your compiler. You can always remove the package db.

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Derving NFData via Generics from a type that has a vector doesn't work. (was trying to understand out of memory exceptions)

2013-04-17 Thread Andres Löh
in the current Haskell Platform. Cheers, Andres -- Andres Löh, Haskell Consultant Well-Typed LLP, http://www.well-typed.com ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Derving NFData via Generics from a type that has a vector doesn't work. (was trying to understand out of memory exceptions)

2013-04-16 Thread Andres Löh
that implement such functionality, though. By using deepseq-generics, you can import Control.DeepSeq.Generics and then define instance NFData Simple where rnf = genericRnf Cheers, Andres -- Andres Löh, Haskell Consultant Well-Typed LLP, http://www.well-typed.com

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Haskell is a declarative language? Let's see how easy it is to declare types of things.

2013-04-03 Thread Andres Löh
indeed does not enable rank-n types, but only allows you to use the forall syntax. Cheers, Andres -- Andres Löh, Haskell Consultant Well-Typed LLP, http://www.well-typed.com ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org

Re: [Haskell-cafe] generalized, tail-recursive left fold that can finish tne computation prematurely

2013-02-18 Thread Andres Löh
Hi. while playing with folds and trying to implement `!!` by folding, I came to the conclusion that: - `foldr` is unsuitable because it counts the elements from the end, while `!!` needs counting from the start (and it's not tail recursive). What is the problem with the following definition

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Structured Graphs

2013-02-13 Thread Andres Löh
Hi John. What are the prospects for Haskell supporting Structured Graphs as defined here? http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~wcook/Drafts/2012/graphs.pdf Is there an interest by developers of GHC in doing this? Could you be more specific about the kind of support you'd expect from GHC? Basically all

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Why does not zipWith' exist

2013-02-01 Thread Andres Löh
Hi Kazu. I'd be surprised if zipWith' yields significant improvements. In the case of foldl', the strictness affects an internal value (the accumulator). However, in the case of zipWith', you're just forcing the result a bit more, but I guess the normal use pattern of fibs is that you want to see

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Why does not zipWith' exist

2013-02-01 Thread Andres Löh
Well, it took a little bit of persuasion to let GHC not cache the list(s), but with fibs :: Int - Integer fibs k = igo i !! k where i | k 100 = 1 | otherwise = 2 igo :: Integer - [Integer] igo i = let go = 0 : i : zipWith (+) go (tail go) in go etc.,

Re: [Haskell-cafe] why GHC cannot infer type in this case?

2013-01-31 Thread Andres Löh
to use. (It's entirely possible that my code can be simplified further. I haven't thought about this for very long ...) Cheers, Andres -- Andres Löh, Haskell Consultant Well-Typed LLP, http://www.well-typed.com ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Generics pattern matching

2012-12-06 Thread Andres Löh
x = K1 val rewrite _ _ = K1 NIL Does this help you? (I'm attaching the full code.) Cheers, Andres -- Andres Löh, Haskell Consultant Well-Typed LLP, http://www.well-typed.com GRewrite.hs Description: Binary data ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Cabal failures...

2012-11-20 Thread Andres Löh
Hi Johan. I haven't looked in detail at the overall problem, but: Flags chosen: base3=True, base4=True Why is Cabal setting both base3 and base4 to True? This looks completely fine to me. The Cabal .cabal file is stating: if flag(base4) { build-depends: base = 4 } else { build-depends:

Re: [Haskell-cafe] non-uniform recursive Trie

2012-10-29 Thread Andres Löh
Hi Kazu. I'm now studying Trie in Okasaki's Purely Functional Data Structure. Attached is the program in its appendix. I cannot understand how to use empty, look and bind. For instance, if I type 'look empty', I got an error: look empty interactive:2:1: No instance for (FiniteMap m0

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Type-directed functions with data kinds

2012-10-25 Thread Andres Löh
Hi Iavor. If you don't want to use the class system, you could write `repeat` with a type like this: repeat :: Proxy n - a - Vector n a (`Proxy` is the singleton family 'data Proxy n = Proxy`). How is the polymorphism becoming any less parametric by using this particular Proxy type?

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Cabal dependencies

2012-10-06 Thread Andres Löh
Do you have any suggestions to install xmobar in this particular case? In case of executables I usually rm -rf ~/.ghc, cabal install, and rm -rf ~/.ghc again. Executables are still here (in ~/.cabal/bin), but all libraries are lost. Warning: it may break your development environment, so make

Re: [Haskell-cafe] [Haskell] Well-Typed and Skills Matter offer Haskell courses in London in October

2012-09-19 Thread Andres Löh
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] [Haskell] Well-Typed and Skills Matter offer Haskell courses in London in October

2012-09-19 Thread Andres Löh
, but it's currently listed as not active on http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/User_groups. Perhaps there's a chance to bring it back to life? Cheers, Andres -- Andres Löh, Haskell Consultant Well-Typed LLP, http://www.well-typed.com ___ Haskell-Cafe

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Detecting numeric overflows

2012-07-31 Thread Andres Löh
, but this will kill any performance, if needed. There's http://hackage.haskell.org/package/safeint/ It's not implemented quite as efficiently as it theoretically could be, but it might do more or less what you want. Cheers, Andres -- Andres Löh, Haskell Consultant Well-Typed LLP, http://www.well

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Fwd: hackage compile failure with QuickCheck 2.5

2012-07-18 Thread Andres Löh
better than using --avoid-reinstalls by default. However, it may still send the misleading message that a package builds just fine when it practice it doesn't. Cheers, Andres -- Andres Löh, Haskell Consultant Well-Typed LLP, http://www.well-typed.com

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Fwd: hackage compile failure with QuickCheck 2.5

2012-07-17 Thread Andres Löh
idea in general. There are simply too many cases where installing older versions of packages (which is often the only thing that helps) is not really the solution you want. That's also the reason why it's not enabled by default. Cheers, Andres -- Andres Löh, Haskell Consultant Well-Typed LLP

Re: [Haskell-cafe] sample terms and interpreting program output from Tc Monad

2012-07-09 Thread Andres Löh
type signature.) Cheers, Andres -- Andres Löh, Haskell Consultant Well-Typed LLP, http://www.well-typed.com ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe

Re: [Haskell-cafe] cabal doens't forget old dependencies

2012-06-27 Thread Andres Löh
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] cabal doens't forget old dependencies

2012-06-27 Thread Andres Löh
that it lists only some of the dependencies. It's a general phenomenon. I don't understand the way Hackage lists package dependencies. I'd appreciate if it'd actually show the whole conditional tree of dependencies. Cheers, Andres -- Andres Löh, Haskell Consultant Well-Typed LLP, http://www.well

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Again, version conflicting problem with cabal-install

2012-06-19 Thread Andres Löh
Hi. Hackage A depends on magicloud (any) and container (0.4.0.0), and hackage magicloud depends on container (any). Now I've installed magicloud, using container 0.5.0.0. Then I failed to install A, with any solver. So the solvers are using the status that is installed, not the definitions

Re: [Haskell-cafe] [Haskell] JustHub 'Sherkin' Release

2012-06-16 Thread Andres Löh
Hi Chris. [Sorry if I'm slow responding, but I'm at a summer school right now and have relatively little time to follow my email.] At issue is whether the JustHub Haskell distribution for Enterprise Linux and the hub hackage for sandboxing development projects and integrating multiple GHC

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Extending constraints

2012-06-05 Thread Andres Löh
c1 c2 a typeOfInnerProxy :: ProxyWrapper (Ext Typeable constraint) - TypeRep typeOfInnerProxy (ProxyWrapper p) = typeOfArg p This will certainly require all sorts of undecidable instances :) But does it work for you? Cheers, Andres -- Andres Löh, Haskell Consultant Well-Typed LLP, http

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Extending constraints

2012-06-05 Thread Andres Löh
)' and it would work. then the following would give a type error: oops :: TypeRep oops = typeOfInnerProxy p Yes, and correctly so. Because Typeable isn't even a superclass of Num. So there's no way to know that p actually contains a Typeable proxy. Cheers, Andres -- Andres Löh, Haskell Consultant

Re: [Haskell-cafe] HPC question

2012-05-23 Thread Andres Löh
to generate accessor functions. These aren't covered by your tests. Therefore the datatype shows as not completely covered. HTH, Andres -- Andres Löh, Haskell Consultant Well-Typed LLP, http://www.well-typed.com ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe

Re: [Haskell-cafe] library conflicts and how to resolve them

2012-05-06 Thread Andres Löh
Hi. $ cabal install persistent Resolving dependencies... In order, the following would be installed: aeson-0.6.0.2 (reinstall) changes: mtl-2.1.1 - 2.0.1.0 persistent-0.9.0.3 (new package) cabal: The following packages are likely to be broken by the reinstalls: buildwrapper-0.5.2 Use

Re: [Haskell-cafe] ANN: generic-deepseq 1.0.0.0

2012-02-25 Thread Andres Löh
Would you have an example of a type for which it would be useful to have a DeepSeq instance, and that would require a V1 instance? I cannot think of one now; I originaly thought it would be necessary to permit deriving DeepSeq instances for types tagged with void types, but as José explained,

Re: [Haskell-cafe] ANN: generic-deepseq 1.0.0.0

2012-02-24 Thread Andres Löh
I don't understand what's going on here. Instances for V1 should of course be defined if they can be! And in this case, a V1 instance makes sense and should be defined. The definition itself doesn't matter, as it'll never be executed. Cheers, Andres

Re: [Haskell-cafe] ANN: generic-deepseq 1.0.0.0

2012-02-24 Thread Andres Löh
Hi. I don't understand what's going on here. Instances for V1 should of course be defined if they can be! And in this case, a V1 instance makes sense and should be defined. The definition itself doesn't matter, as it'll never be executed. The definition certainly matters: [...] You're

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Again, version conflicting problem with cabal-install

2012-02-03 Thread Andres Löh
Hi. On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Ivan Lazar Miljenovic ivan.miljeno...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 February 2012 17:29, Magicloud Magiclouds magicloud.magiclo...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you. The document does say it more clearly than me. But still, currently, ghc only gives me one option: cannot

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Again, version conflicting problem with cabal-install

2012-02-03 Thread Andres Löh
I am just wanting an option (ignore versions) to take that risk in develop environment. A controlled way of ignoring version constraints (mainly upper bounds, actually) is certainly on my TODO list for the new solver. The main issue to work out is a good way how to control the disabled bounds

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Again, version conflicting problem with cabal-install

2012-02-03 Thread Andres Löh
Hi.  --force-allow=foo-1.3 with the semantics that all dependencies on foo will be changed to allow foo-1.3 to be chosen. Would that be ok? Other suggestions? Can't this be integrated with the current --constraint flag? It could be, but ... If the constraint is able to be satisfied

[Haskell-cafe] Well-Typed are hiring: Haskell consultant

2012-01-12 Thread Andres Löh
. We are more than happy to answer informal enquiries. Contact Duncan Coutts, Ian Lynagh or Andres Löh (http://www.well-typed.com/who_we_are/) for further information, either by email or IRC. The deadline for applications is Friday 27th January 2012. == About Well-Typed Well-Typed LLP is a Haskell

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Lifted Spine View

2011-11-21 Thread Andres Löh
Hi there.    I tried to follow the program of the paper Scrap your boilerpolate Revolutions. Unfortunately, I found the program in the section lifted spine view does not compile in my GHC, could anybody  point out where I am wrong? Many Thanks My code is posted here http://hpaste.org/54357

Re: [Haskell-cafe] ghc 7.2.1 Generics problem

2011-11-01 Thread Andres Löh
Hi.  I do not know why, my ghc 7.2.1 does not seem to support DeriveRepresentable. I compiled the ghc 7.2.1 myself by ghc 7.0.4. All options default. $ ghc Types/TopTalkerRecord.hs Types/TopTalkerRecord.hs:2:14:    Unsupported extension: DeriveRepresentable There's no extension of that