Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-18 Thread Sean Leather
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 01:46, Don Stewart wrote: leather: 2. What is the difference between Haskell and the Haskell Platform? I see one or the other in various places. To get from www.haskell.org to downloading the Mac software, I go through Download Haskell, Get the Haskell Platform

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-18 Thread Ivan Lazar Miljenovic
Sean Leather leat...@cs.uu.nl writes: Personally, I prefer to separate the name of the language from the name of the development tools, because I think that causes unnecessary confusion. End-users do not need to care about Haskell, unlike Java since they need the JRE, so potential developers

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-17 Thread Don Stewart
leather: 2. What is the difference between Haskell and the Haskell Platform? I see one or the other in various places. To get from www.haskell.org to downloading the Mac software, I go through Download Haskell, Get the Haskell Platform Mac, and Download Haskell for Mac OS X (intel). Well,

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-08 Thread Ketil Malde
Daniel Fischer daniel.is.fisc...@web.de writes: However, I wanted to know what the etc stood for, with taking care of dependencies and uninstalling already mentioned. Upgrading, yes, but what else? Keeping the system consistent with other systems? If I use the system packages, I can have a

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-08 Thread Ivan Miljenovic
On 8 April 2010 16:29, Ketil Malde ke...@malde.org wrote: Support, in the sense that somebody is actually responsible for the package?  (Unlike Hackage, where some packages have a closed-for-nonsubscribers mailing list as 'maintainer'.) Which packages are these? I don't recall seeing any with

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-08 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On Apr 8, 2010, at 02:47 , Ivan Miljenovic wrote: On 8 April 2010 16:29, Ketil Malde ke...@malde.org wrote: Support, in the sense that somebody is actually responsible for the package? (Unlike Hackage, where some packages have a closed-for-nonsubscribers mailing list as 'maintainer'.) Which

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-08 Thread Ketil Malde
Ivan Miljenovic ivan.miljeno...@gmail.com writes: Which packages are these? I don't recall seeing any with this kind of maintainer address... http://www.google.no/search?q=site%3Ahackage.haskell.org+maintainer+libraries%40haskell.org -k -- If I haven't seen further, it is by standing in

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-08 Thread Gregory Collins
Jason Dagit da...@codersbase.com writes: If I understand correctly, the issue at hand is that the uninstaller step is removing previous libraries and ghc? Not GHC; the HP installer removes old copies of the platform libraries. That's likely to break your old GHC setup though. What should it do

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-08 Thread Don Stewart
greg: Jason Dagit da...@codersbase.com writes: If I understand correctly, the issue at hand is that the uninstaller step is removing previous libraries and ghc? Not GHC; the HP installer removes old copies of the platform libraries. That's likely to break your old GHC setup though. What

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-07 Thread Malcolm Wallace
The platform installer is supposed to erase previous platform editions before it installs itself. I would consider that a serious bug. The Haskell Platform is not like a standard user application, where it would be reasonable to have only one version installed at a time. If you are

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-07 Thread Gregory Collins
Malcolm Wallace malcolm.wall...@cs.york.ac.uk writes: The platform installer is supposed to erase previous platform editions before it installs itself. I would consider that a serious bug. Lacking a feature I would consider essential /= a bug in my opinion, especially when the

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-07 Thread Ivan Lazar Miljenovic
Malcolm Wallace malcolm.wall...@cs.york.ac.uk writes: The Haskell Platform is not like a standard user application, where it would be reasonable to have only one version installed at a time. As far as I know, most Linux distributions only let you install one version of GHC at a time; we do this

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-07 Thread Daniel Fischer
Am Mittwoch 07 April 2010 23:43:05 schrieb Ivan Lazar Miljenovic: Malcolm Wallace malcolm.wall...@cs.york.ac.uk writes: The Haskell Platform is not like a standard user application, where it would be reasonable to have only one version installed at a time. As far as I know, most Linux

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-07 Thread Malcolm Wallace
The platform installer is supposed to erase previous platform editions before it installs itself. I would consider that a serious bug. Lacking a feature I would consider essential /= a bug in my opinion, especially when the desirability of the feature is in question. It is not merely

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-07 Thread Ivan Lazar Miljenovic
Daniel Fischer daniel.is.fisc...@web.de writes: I currently have 6.10.1, 6.10.3 and 6.12.1 installed (openSuSe 11.1), no problem. On my previous computer (SuSE 8.2), I had every release from 6.2.2 to 6.8.2, no problem either. Using system packages? Ah, but one shouldn't use a package

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-07 Thread Daniel Fischer
Am Donnerstag 08 April 2010 00:09:34 schrieb Ivan Lazar Miljenovic: Daniel Fischer daniel.is.fisc...@web.de writes: I currently have 6.10.1, 6.10.3 and 6.12.1 installed (openSuSe 11.1), no problem. On my previous computer (SuSE 8.2), I had every release from 6.2.2 to 6.8.2, no problem

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-07 Thread Gregory Collins
Malcolm Wallace malcolm.wall...@cs.york.ac.uk writes: The platform installer is supposed to erase previous platform editions before it installs itself. I would consider that a serious bug. Lacking a feature I would consider essential /= a bug in my opinion, especially when the

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-07 Thread Ivan Miljenovic
On 8 April 2010 08:25, Daniel Fischer daniel.is.fisc...@web.de wrote: Am Donnerstag 08 April 2010 00:09:34 schrieb Ivan Lazar Miljenovic: etc. ... Such as? To avoid stating these all over again: http://ivanmiljenovic.wordpress.com/2010/03/15/repeat-after-me-cabal-is-not-a-package-manager/

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-07 Thread Daniel Fischer
Am Donnerstag 08 April 2010 01:47:19 schrieb Ivan Miljenovic: On 8 April 2010 08:25, Daniel Fischer daniel.is.fisc...@web.de wrote: Am Donnerstag 08 April 2010 00:09:34 schrieb Ivan Lazar Miljenovic: etc. ... Such as? To avoid stating these all over again:

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-07 Thread Ivan Miljenovic
On 8 April 2010 10:41, Daniel Fischer daniel.is.fisc...@web.de wrote: However, I wanted to know what the etc stood for, with taking care of dependencies and uninstalling already mentioned. Upgrading, yes, but what else? Patching, bug fixing, stuff like that. -- Ivan Lazar Miljenovic

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-07 Thread Jason Dagit
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Malcolm Wallace malcolm.wall...@cs.york.ac.uk wrote: The platform installer is supposed to erase previous platform editions before it installs itself. I would consider that a serious bug. Lacking a feature I would consider essential /= a bug in my

[Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-06 Thread Sean Leather
1. Why can't the platform download site be hosted on www.haskell.org instead of hackage.haskell.org? I see that there's a redirect, but (imho) it would be ideal to have www.haskell.org/platform be the standard URL in my browser. It is easier to remember (for typing) and more obvious (for

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-06 Thread Don Stewart
leather: 1. Why can't the platform download site be hosted on www.haskell.org instead of hackage.haskell.org? I see that there's a redirect, but (imho) it would be ideal to have www.haskell.org/platform be the standard URL in my browser. It is easier to remember (for typing) and more

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-06 Thread Gregory Collins
Sean Leather leat...@cs.uu.nl writes: 4. The current link for the Mac image points to http://hackage.haskell.org/platform/2010.1.0.0/haskell-platform-2010.1.0.1-i386.dmg . Note the inconsistency between the version in the directory and file names. You can think of that one as the second

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-06 Thread Sean Leather
Hi Gregory, Thanks for the reply. Gregory Collins wrote: Sean Leather writes: 4. The current link for the Mac image points to http://hackage.haskell.org/platform/2010.1.0.0/haskell-platform-2010.1.0.1-i386.dmg . Note the inconsistency between the version in the directory and file

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Confusions about the Haskell Platform (for Mac)

2010-04-06 Thread Gregory Collins
Sean Leather leat...@cs.uu.nl writes: Too bad the installer still doesn't work -- I'm working on it everyone, but the Mac installer system is incredibly crufty and broken, and Snow Leopard broke a lot of stuff for me. Is it possible to build the installer on a Leopard