On Mon, 10 Sep 2007, Devin Mullins wrote:
Brian Hurt wrote:
Any links to these presentations? I'm interested.
Videos:
http://rubyhoedown2007.confreaks.com/session04.html
Actually, this video has an interesting bit, relevent to this discussion.
He doesn't phrase it as an elevator pitch,
Devin Mullins wrote:
As for the latter, the reason I hear most often is I want to be able to
use the language at my job.*
-- snip --
* This is somewhat odd, as the strong majority of vocal Rubyists /are/
using it at their job.
Not without risk though. Their necks get wrung if things
Stefan O'Rear wrote:
I'd like to add that, until very recently, Haskell wasn't even
*trying* to be ready for prime time.
This is a subject that comes up in Ruby-land quite a bit. It piques my
curiosity. Obviously, Haskell is not, on its own, sentient. (Nor is the
Haskell community a hivemind.)
On Sun, 9 Sep 2007, Devin Mullins wrote:
As for the latter, the reason I hear most often is I want to be able to
use the language at my job.* Yet, I have heard two presentations from
people who studied the history of Smalltalk/Java/etc. and came to the
(informal) conclusion that the very
Brian Hurt wrote:
Any links to these presentations? I'm interested.
Videos:
http://rubyhoedown2007.confreaks.com/session04.html
http://rubyhoedown2007.confreaks.com/session07.html
Unfortunately, I couldn't find any slides for download. Watch at your
own peril!
Devin
Dan Weston wrote:
WARNING: Learning Haskell is dangerous to your health!
Though cut with syntactic sugar to be more palatable to newbies, each
Haskell construct is in fact a contagious mix of higher-order
functions, lambda expressions, and partial applications, a highly
addictive gateway
Michael Vanier wrote:
Awesome!
I'm reminded of the IRC post that said that Haskell is bad, it makes
you hate other languages.
How true it is...
I've often thought about a sort of elevator pitch for Haskell.
However, every time I sit down to think about this, I come to the same
conclusion:
andrewcoppin:
Michael Vanier wrote:
Awesome!
I'm reminded of the IRC post that said that Haskell is bad, it makes
you hate other languages.
How true it is...
I've often thought about a sort of elevator pitch for Haskell.
However, every time I sit down to think about this, I come to
Hi
* Create sophisticated GUIs.
Gtk2hs. Could do with a nice wrapper on that, but Conal is doing some
interesting stuff, and I've got PropLang on the back burner. People
are thinking the right thoughts, it just needs time.
* Read and write standard binary file formats. (Images, compressed
On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 05:44:47PM +0100, Neil Mitchell wrote:
I'd like to think that Haskell will soon be ready for prime-time. But
let's face it, the language is 20 years old already...
Most of your problems are lack of libraries. We've had Cabal in
mainstream for maybe a year, hackage
Hello Andrew,
Saturday, September 8, 2007, 8:36:06 PM, you wrote:
* Access the Windoze registry and play with COM stuff.
* Get system-specific file information (protection bits, modification
times, security information, etc.)
* Query the OS. (How many CPUs? How much RAM? What is my IP
Neil Mitchell wrote:
* Read and write standard binary file formats. (Images, compressed
files, etc.)
Data.Binary is the low level frameworks, now people can pick up the rest.
Last time I checked, there's about half a dozen binary packages. All
incompatible. All with different
Stefan O'Rear wrote:
I'd like to add that, until very recently, Haskell wasn't even *trying*
to be ready for prime time. It takes an athlete many years to get
from the cradle to the finish line, but that's not how we score them!
Ah yes - avoid success at all costs. Pitty... I really love
Hi
Data.Binary is the low level frameworks, now people can pick up the rest.
Last time I checked, there's about half a dozen binary packages. All
incompatible. All with different design. Seriously not obvious which one
to use...
Data.Binary is the answer,
WARNING: Learning Haskell is dangerous to your health!
:-) I liked that so much I made a hazard image to go with it.
http://malde.org/~ketil/Hazard_lambda.svg
-k
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This page (http://www.npdbd.umn.edu/deliver/elevator.html) has a
template for an elevator pitch. This is what you say to someone when
you have 30 seconds to explain your big idea, for instance if you find
yourself in an elevator with them. I thought I'd try instantiating it
for Haskell.
It's very nice, but I would say that anyone who needs an elevator pitch shouldn't be using or
working with Haskell. Haskell is for people who already get it. I've had job offers from people
just because they knew I _liked_ Haskell, even though they weren't asking me to use it for the job.
Paul,
It's a good start, but it's a little too feature oriented rather than
benefits oriented.
Features: makes programmers more productive, allows projects to grow larger,
allows maintenance teams to pick up the code with less skills xfer, faster
time to market and faster and more reliable
Paul,
This page (http://www.npdbd.umn.edu/deliver/elevator.html) has a template
for an elevator pitch.
I thought I'd try instantiating it for Haskell.
For software developers who need to produce highly reliable software at
minimum cost...
Looks like a good pitch for developers. Here's my
And here's my guide for public health officials...
WARNING: Learning Haskell is dangerous to your health!
Disguised as a fully-functional programming language, Haskell is
actually a front for a working math-lab, supported by a cult of
volunteers seeking to ensnare weak-headed but normal
Awesome!
I'm reminded of the IRC post that said that Haskell is bad, it makes you hate other
languages.
Mike
Dan Weston wrote:
And here's my guide for public health officials...
WARNING: Learning Haskell is dangerous to your health!
Disguised as a fully-functional programming language,
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