[Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] Re: 20 years ago

2009-07-27 Thread Benjamin L . Russell
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:38:14 +1200, Richard O'Keefe o...@cs.otago.ac.nz wrote: On Jul 15, 2009, at 5:25 PM, Benjamin L.Russell wrote: it interesting that you should use the biological term disease; according to a post [1] entitled Re: Re: Smalltalk Data Structures and Algorithms, by K. K.

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] Re: 20 years ago

2009-07-27 Thread Richard O'Keefe
On Jul 27, 2009, at 6:30 PM, Benjamin L.Russell wrote: Incidentally, just for the record, in response to my forwarding your claim, Alan Kay, the inventor of Smalltalk, just refuted your refutation [1] (see http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/beginners/2009-July/006331.html) ; _viz._:

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] Re: 20 years ago

2009-07-27 Thread Peter Gammie
On 28/07/2009, at 11:35 AM, Richard O'Keefe wrote: It's true that the abstract speaks of a more biological scheme of protected universal cells interacting only through messages that could mimic any desired behavior, but that's basically _it_ for biology, if we are to believe Kay, and even then,

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] Re: 20 years ago

2009-07-27 Thread Richard O'Keefe
On Jul 28, 2009, at 2:25 PM, Peter Gammie wrote: But Richard (or am I arguing with Kay?) - monads don't interact. You're arguing with Alan Kay here: the reference to Leibniz was his. The key link here is (Wikipedia): Leibniz allows just one type of element in the build of the universe

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] Re: 20 years ago

2009-07-27 Thread Peter Gammie
On 28/07/2009, at 12:59 PM, Richard O'Keefe wrote: On Jul 28, 2009, at 2:25 PM, Peter Gammie wrote: But Richard (or am I arguing with Kay?) - monads don't interact. You're arguing with Alan Kay here: the reference to Leibniz was his. The key link here is (Wikipedia): Leibniz allows just

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] Re: 20 years ago

2009-07-18 Thread wren ng thornton
Richard O'Keefe wrote: On Jul 15, 2009, at 5:25 PM, Benjamin L.Russell wrote: it interesting that you should use the biological term disease; according to a post [1] entitled Re: Re: Smalltalk Data Structures and Algorithms, by K. K. Subramaniam, dated Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:25:34 +0530, on the

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] Re: 20 years ago

2009-07-18 Thread wren ng thornton
Richard O'Keefe wrote: On Jul 15, 2009, at 5:25 PM, Benjamin L.Russell wrote: it interesting that you should use the biological term disease; according to a post [1] entitled Re: Re: Smalltalk Data Structures and Algorithms, by K. K. Subramaniam, dated Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:25:34 +0530, on the

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] Re: 20 years ago

2009-07-15 Thread Richard O'Keefe
On Jul 15, 2009, at 5:25 PM, Benjamin L.Russell wrote: it interesting that you should use the biological term disease; according to a post [1] entitled Re: Re: Smalltalk Data Structures and Algorithms, by K. K. Subramaniam, dated Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:25:34 +0530, on the squeak-beginners mailing

[Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] Re: 20 years ago

2009-07-14 Thread Ketil Malde
[redirected from hask...@] Benjamin L.Russell dekudekup...@yahoo.com writes: One often amusing outgrowth of this is that FP (OOP) fanatics anthropomorphize their functions (objects). Well, I don't think we do. Functions are just mappings of values to values, they may be opaque, but

[Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] Re: 20 years ago

2009-07-14 Thread Benjamin L . Russell
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:36:02 +0200, Ketil Malde ke...@malde.org wrote: [redirected from hask...@] Benjamin L.Russell dekudekup...@yahoo.com writes: One often amusing outgrowth of this is that FP (OOP) fanatics anthropomorphize their functions (objects). Well, I don't think we do.