Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Haskell Platform on Ubuntu

2009-07-08 Thread david48
Even if 6.10.3 gets into Karmic, I'm sure the problem will arise again once 6.12.1 is out. It's sadly easier to install from the tarball. David. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Haskell Platform on Ubuntu

2009-07-08 Thread Ketil Malde
George Pollard por...@porg.es writes: 2009/7/7 Matthias Görgens matthias.goerg...@googlemail.com: Karmic (9.10) will have GHC 6.10.3, possibly 6.10.4. It currently spots 6.10.3, in the alpha release I run here. A major problem is that the libraries are still for 6.8.2, so you cannot

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Haskell Platform on Ubuntu

2009-07-08 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Ketil Malde wrote: I'm sorry, but I don't follow you. Surely the libraries must be compiled against the shipping version of GHC? Yes, but the libraries that are currently there are the ones compiled with the previous version of ghc. Yes, those libraries need to be recompiled and no, that

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Haskell Platform on Ubuntu

2009-07-08 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
david48 wrote: Even if 6.10.3 gets into Karmic, I'm sure the problem will arise again once 6.12.1 is out. The Debian Haskell maintainers are working on fixing this. In particular, working on setting up an automated process so that when the compiler version is updated, all Haskell libraries get

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Haskell Platform on Ubuntu

2009-07-08 Thread Simon Marlow
On 08/07/2009 00:17, George Pollard wrote: 2009/7/7 Matthias Görgensmatthias.goerg...@googlemail.com: Karmic (9.10) will have GHC 6.10.3, possibly 6.10.4. It currently spots 6.10.3, in the alpha release I run here. A major problem is that the libraries are still for 6.8.2, so you cannot

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Haskell Platform on Ubuntu

2009-07-08 Thread Rafael Gustavo da Cunha Pereira Pinto
The Ocaml programming language has exactly the same problem, but the Debian Ocaml maintainers have automated the process and last time to Ocaml compiler version was updated over 95% of all Ocaml libraries were rebuilt within 24 hours. Since I never built GHC from scratch, it is really hard

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Haskell Platform on Ubuntu

2009-07-08 Thread Matthias Görgens
One problem I see is the binary-only distribution of packages. This makes cabal-install incompatible with most distributions except, maybe, gentoo. The automation process would have to run through hackageDB tracking dependencies and compiling each needed library. Pretty hard stuff... Yes.

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Haskell Platform on Ubuntu

2009-07-08 Thread david48
2009/7/8 Matthias Görgens matthias.goerg...@googlemail.com: One problem I see is the binary-only distribution of packages. This makes cabal-install incompatible with most distributions except, maybe, gentoo. The automation process would have to run through hackageDB tracking dependencies and

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Haskell Platform on Ubuntu

2009-07-08 Thread Ketil Malde
Matthias Görgens matthias.goerg...@googlemail.com writes: One problem I see is the binary-only distribution of packages. This makes cabal-install incompatible with most distributions except, maybe, gentoo. The automation process would have to run through hackageDB tracking dependencies and

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Haskell Platform on Ubuntu

2009-07-08 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Rafael Gustavo da Cunha Pereira Pinto wrote: One problem I see is the binary-only distribution of packages. Well Debian does have source packages as well, thats what they build the binaries from :-). The automation process would have to run through hackageDB tracking dependencies and

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Haskell Platform on Ubuntu

2009-07-08 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Matthias Görgens wrote: Yes. The sanest approach for any distribution would seem to install are bare bones ghc + cabal (cabal install) and let the cabal package system do the hard work directly. Cabal works really well for a single developer on a single machine. Debian packages work really

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Haskell Platform on Ubuntu

2009-07-08 Thread Magnus Therning
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Erik de Castro Lopomle...@mega-nerd.com wrote: Matthias Görgens wrote: Yes.  The sanest approach for any distribution would seem to install are bare bones ghc + cabal (cabal install) and let the cabal package system do the hard work directly. Cabal works

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Haskell Platform on Ubuntu

2009-07-08 Thread Don Stewart
mle+hs: Matthias Görgens wrote: Yes. The sanest approach for any distribution would seem to install are bare bones ghc + cabal (cabal install) and let the cabal package system do the hard work directly. Cabal works really well for a single developer on a single machine. Debian

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Haskell Platform on Ubuntu

2009-07-08 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi Erik, Am Mittwoch, den 08.07.2009, 17:15 +1000 schrieb Erik de Castro Lopo: The Ocaml programming language has exactly the same problem, but the Debian Ocaml maintainers have automated the process and last time to Ocaml compiler version was updated over 95% of all Ocaml libraries were

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Haskell Platform on Ubuntu

2009-07-08 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Joachim Breitner wrote: looking at http://debian.glondu.net/monitor/ocaml/ocaml_transition_monitor.html I get the impression that the Ocaml guys need to re-build everything when a new Ocaml library I assume you mean compiler there? comes out, but not when just a dependency was upgraded. Is

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Haskell Platform on Ubuntu

2009-07-08 Thread Don Stewart
mle+hs: Joachim Breitner wrote: looking at http://debian.glondu.net/monitor/ocaml/ocaml_transition_monitor.html I get the impression that the Ocaml guys need to re-build everything when a new Ocaml library I assume you mean compiler there? comes out, but not when just a

[Haskell-cafe] Re: Haskell Platform on Ubuntu

2009-07-07 Thread Simon Marlow
Karmic (9.10) will have GHC 6.10.3, possibly 6.10.4. http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ghc6/+bug/302149 Cheers, Simon On 06/07/2009 23:54, Stefan Roggensack wrote: Hello, I have uploaded the ghc package to my ppa: https://launchpad.net/~someone561/+archive/ppa But I don't work

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Haskell Platform on Ubuntu

2009-07-07 Thread Matthias Görgens
Karmic (9.10) will have GHC 6.10.3, possibly 6.10.4. It currently spots 6.10.3, in the alpha release I run here. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Haskell Platform on Ubuntu

2009-07-07 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Simon Marlow wrote: Karmic (9.10) will have GHC 6.10.3, possibly 6.10.4. http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ghc6/+bug/302149 Unfortunately thats only half the story. The GHC 6.10.3 that is going into Kamic is the one from Debian Unstable. It is important to note here that beyond doing

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Haskell Platform on Ubuntu

2009-07-07 Thread George Pollard
2009/7/7 Matthias Görgens matthias.goerg...@googlemail.com: Karmic (9.10) will have GHC 6.10.3, possibly 6.10.4. It currently spots 6.10.3, in the alpha release I run here. A major problem is that the libraries are still for 6.8.2, so you cannot install the required libs to install cabal. Grr.