[Haskell-cafe] Re: Elegant powerful replacement for CSS

2009-02-04 Thread Heinrich Apfelmus
Conal Elliott wrote: I've been wondering for a while now what a well-designed alternative to CSS could be, where well-designed would mean consistent, composable, orthogonal, functional, based on an elegantly compelling semantic model (denotational). Me too. I think there are several aspects

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Elegant powerful replacement for CSS

2009-02-04 Thread Peter Verswyvelen
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:50 AM, Achim Schneider bars...@web.de wrote: I don't believe that it's possible to draw a clear destinction between concerns the programmer and concerns the designer. In fact, I get offended by the notion that I'm inherently incapable of distinguishing readable from

[Haskell-cafe] Re: Elegant powerful replacement for CSS

2009-02-03 Thread Achim Schneider
wren ng thornton w...@freegeek.org wrote: I can see LaTeX as demonstrating that there is no such (single) language. It seems to me that the elementary units (chapters, sections, paragraphs,...) depend almost entirely on the domain of the document (a book, an article,...). This is what I had

[Haskell-cafe] Re: Elegant powerful replacement for CSS

2009-02-03 Thread Achim Schneider
Malcolm Wallace malcolm.wall...@cs.york.ac.uk wrote: I would go with Bret Victor's argument (http://worrydream.com/ MagicInk/) that the concept of user interface as primarily _interaction_ is misguided. I tend to disagree. But then I'm a game developer, not an HTML monk... what definitely

[Haskell-cafe] Re: Elegant powerful replacement for CSS

2009-02-03 Thread Achim Schneider
Conal Elliott co...@conal.net wrote: [Spin-off from the haskell-cafe discussion on functional/denotational GUI toolkits] I've been wondering for a while now what a well-designed alternative to CSS could be, where well-designed would mean consistent, composable, orthogonal, functional,

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Elegant powerful replacement for CSS

2009-02-03 Thread Conal Elliott
amen amen! thanks, achim. On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Achim Schneider bars...@web.de wrote: Conal Elliott co...@conal.net wrote: [Spin-off from the haskell-cafe discussion on functional/denotational GUI toolkits] I've been wondering for a while now what a well-designed