Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: package naming policy
Henning Thielemann lemm...@henning-thielemann.de writes: Closely related is the question of module names. 'transformers'+'monads-fd' are somehow an successor of 'mtl' and chose distinct package names, but there were module name clashes. They mostly hurted GHCi users, but this led to a lot of confusion, too. So the question is, if FGL gets a new name, should it also use different module names? This has been brought up already. My intention is, before we release it publically/visibly, we get in contact with all package maintainers of hackage packages that use FGL and help them migrate to the new version so we can do a mass migrate/upgrade so that there would be no reason for users to have the old version of FGL installed (unless there's a system package vs cabal-install package clash, but there's not much we can do about that). The unfortunate aspect of this IMHO is that the FGL package name doesn't match the module names; if it was the consensus of the community that we change the package name of FGL one option I was thinking of was something along the lines of inductive-graphs, but the obvious choice of module names for that would be Data.Graph.Inductive, which FGL has already taken. -- Ivan Lazar Miljenovic ivan.miljeno...@gmail.com IvanMiljenovic.wordpress.com ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: package naming policy
Don Stewart d...@galois.com writes: Yes, my intent here is to produce a set of guidelines for maintainers of important packages, that ensures we balance stability with innovation. We have a great document for what to consider when adding packages to the HP, for example: http://trac.haskell.org/haskell-platform/wiki/AddingPackages But nothing yet for maintainers who want to keep a package moving along. As part of this, we should consider if we want an official process to do what I've done to kick-off this whole discussion: have a way of telling users Oj! New version coming up with heaps of changes!. Whilst major projects might have their own mailing lists, not all users might be subscribed to them, etc. Should we stick with what I've done and just email haskell@ and haskell-c...@? -- Ivan Lazar Miljenovic ivan.miljeno...@gmail.com IvanMiljenovic.wordpress.com ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: package naming policy
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Ivan Lazar Miljenovic ivan.miljeno...@gmail.com wrote: Don Stewart d...@galois.com writes: Yes, my intent here is to produce a set of guidelines for maintainers of important packages, that ensures we balance stability with innovation. We have a great document for what to consider when adding packages to the HP, for example: http://trac.haskell.org/haskell-platform/wiki/AddingPackages But nothing yet for maintainers who want to keep a package moving along. As part of this, we should consider if we want an official process to do what I've done to kick-off this whole discussion: have a way of telling users Oj! New version coming up with heaps of changes!. Whilst major projects might have their own mailing lists, not all users might be subscribed to them, etc. Should we stick with what I've done and just email haskell@ and haskell-c...@? Yes, and posting to reddit and having an article on planet haskell about it helps too. There are lots of ways to get the same information and using more of them will help you reach your audience. Jason ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: package naming policy
Jason Dagit da...@codersbase.com writes: On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Ivan Lazar Miljenovic ivan.miljeno...@gmail.com wrote: As part of this, we should consider if we want an official process to do what I've done to kick-off this whole discussion: have a way of telling users Oj! New version coming up with heaps of changes!. Whilst major projects might have their own mailing lists, not all users might be subscribed to them, etc. Should we stick with what I've done and just email haskell@ and haskell-c...@? Yes, and posting to reddit and having an article on planet haskell about it helps too. There are lots of ways to get the same information and using more of them will help you reach your audience. Well, someone else would have to do the posting on reddit for me; I waste too much time as-is reading it let alone posting there and getting involved in the discussions on yet another front! ;-) I'll do up a blog post in the next day or so to get it on planet though. -- Ivan Lazar Miljenovic ivan.miljeno...@gmail.com IvanMiljenovic.wordpress.com ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
