Fwd: Re: [Haskell-cafe] speed: ghc vs gcc

2009-02-21 Thread Khudyakov Alexey
Oh I've again sent mail to wrong address -- Forwarded Message -- On Saturday 21 February 2009 02:42:11 you wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Bulat Ziganshin bulat.zigans...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Khudyakov, Saturday, February 21, 2009, 2:07:39 AM, you wrote:

Re: Fwd: Re: [Haskell-cafe] speed: ghc vs gcc

2009-02-21 Thread Bulat Ziganshin
Hello Khudyakov, Sunday, February 22, 2009, 12:58:59 AM, you wrote: you could even pass it in a test data set to which it must be optimized; after the program is compiled, the compiler runs and profiles it, measures the results, and does another pass to make it faster. it supported in gcc4

Re: [Haskell-cafe] speed: ghc vs gcc

2009-02-20 Thread Miguel Mitrofanov
Ahem. Seems like you've included time spent on the runtime loading. My results: MigMit:~ MigMit$ gcc -o test -O3 -funroll-loops test.c time ./test -1243309312 real0m0.066s user0m0.063s sys 0m0.002s MigMit:~ MigMit$ rm test; ghc -O2 --make test.hs time ./test Linking test ...

Re: [Haskell-cafe] speed: ghc vs gcc

2009-02-20 Thread Miguel Mitrofanov
Forget it, my bad. On 20 Feb 2009, at 16:48, Miguel Mitrofanov wrote: Ahem. Seems like you've included time spent on the runtime loading. My results: MigMit:~ MigMit$ gcc -o test -O3 -funroll-loops test.c time ./test -1243309312 real0m0.066s user0m0.063s sys 0m0.002s MigMit:~

Re: [Haskell-cafe] speed: ghc vs gcc

2009-02-20 Thread Dan Doel
Test.hs import Prelude hiding (sum, enumFromTo) import Data.List.Stream (sum, unfoldr) enumFromTo m n = unfoldr f m where f k | k = n= Just (k,k+1) | otherwise = Nothing main = print . sum $ enumFromTo 1 (10^9 :: Int) snip do...@zeke % time ./Test

Re: [Haskell-cafe] speed: ghc vs gcc

2009-02-20 Thread Dan Doel
Sorry for replying to myself, but I got suspicious about the 6ms runtime of the 64-bit C++ code on my machine. So I looked at the assembly and found this: .LCFI1: movabsq

Re: [Haskell-cafe] speed: ghc vs gcc

2009-02-20 Thread David Leimbach
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 6:39 AM, Dan Doel dan.d...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for replying to myself, but I got suspicious about the 6ms runtime of the 64-bit C++ code on my machine. So I looked at the assembly and found this: .LCFI1: movabsq $45, %rsi

Re: [Haskell-cafe] speed: ghc vs gcc

2009-02-20 Thread Dan Doel
On Friday 20 February 2009 10:52:03 am David Leimbach wrote: The GCC optimizer must know that you can't return a value to user space of that large as a return result. In Haskell you're printing it... why not print it in C++? I actually changed my local copy to print out the result (since I

Re: [Haskell-cafe] speed: ghc vs gcc

2009-02-20 Thread Don Stewart
bulat.ziganshin: Hello haskell-cafe, since there are no objective tests comparing ghc to gcc, i made my own one. these are 3 programs, calculating sum in c++ and haskell: Wonderful. Thank you! main = print $ sum[1..10^9::Int] This won't be comparable to your loop below, as 'sum' is a

Re: [Haskell-cafe] speed: ghc vs gcc

2009-02-20 Thread Don Stewart
bulat.ziganshin: Friday, February 20, 2009, 7:41:33 PM, you wrote: main = print $ sum[1..10^9::Int] This won't be comparable to your loop below, as 'sum' is a left fold (which doesn't fuse under build/foldr). You should use the list implementation from the stream-fusion package (or

Re: [Haskell-cafe] speed: ghc vs gcc

2009-02-20 Thread Daniel Fischer
Am Freitag, 20. Februar 2009 18:10 schrieb Bulat Ziganshin: Hello Don, Friday, February 20, 2009, 7:41:33 PM, you wrote: main = print $ sum[1..10^9::Int] This won't be comparable to your loop below, as 'sum' is a left fold (which doesn't fuse under build/foldr). You should use the

Re: [Haskell-cafe] speed: ghc vs gcc vs jhc

2009-02-20 Thread John Meacham
Don't forget jhc: on my machine (with 'print' equivalent added to C one to be fair, and 10^9 changed to 1000*1000*1000 just like the C one) ghc: (-O2) time ./foo ./foo 2.26s user 0.00s system 99% cpu 2.273 total gcc: time ./a.out ./a.out 0.34s user 0.00s system 99% cpu 0.341 total jhc: time

Re: [Haskell-cafe] speed: ghc vs gcc vs jhc

2009-02-20 Thread Ketil Malde
Bulat Ziganshin bulat.zigans...@gmail.com writes: Don't forget jhc: i was pretty sure that jhc will be as fast as gcc :) unfortunately, jhc isn't our production compiler Neither is GCC :-) -k -- If I haven't seen further, it is by standing in the footprints of giants

Re: [Haskell-cafe] speed: ghc vs gcc

2009-02-20 Thread Khudyakov Alexey
On Friday 20 February 2009 16:29:29 Bulat Ziganshin wrote: Hello haskell-cafe, since there are no objective tests comparing ghc to gcc, i made my own one. these are 3 programs, calculating sum in c++ and haskell: main = print $ sum[1..10^9::Int] ... skipped ... The discussion is mostly

Re: [Haskell-cafe] speed: ghc vs gcc vs jhc

2009-02-20 Thread John Meacham
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 02:24:59AM +0300, Bulat Ziganshin wrote: Hello John, Saturday, February 21, 2009, 2:14:25 AM, you wrote: Heh. He probably meant something more like jhc is not a production compiler which is true for a lot of projects. For projects of substantial size or that

Re: [Haskell-cafe] speed: ghc vs gcc

2009-02-20 Thread Xiao-Yong Jin
Peter Verswyvelen bugf...@gmail.com writes: you could even pass it in a test data set to which it must be optimized; after the program is compiled, the compiler runs and profiles it, measures the results, and does another pass to make it faster. some C++ compilers can already do this

Re: [Haskell-cafe] speed: ghc vs gcc vs jhc

2009-02-20 Thread Alberto G. Corona
John, please update the section All is not well in jhc-land because now things are better isn´t? 2009/2/21 John Meacham j...@repetae.net On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 02:24:59AM +0300, Bulat Ziganshin wrote: Hello John, Saturday, February 21, 2009, 2:14:25 AM, you wrote: Heh. He probably

Re: [Haskell-cafe] speed: ghc vs gcc vs jhc

2009-02-20 Thread John Meacham
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 03:21:03AM +0300, Bulat Ziganshin wrote: what is substantial size? can jhc be used for video codec, i.e. probably no extensions - just raw computations, and thousands or tens of thousands LOCs? Perhaps. A bigger issue in practice is that the larger a program is,

Re: [Haskell-cafe] speed: ghc vs gcc vs jhc

2009-02-20 Thread John Meacham
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 01:20:14AM +0100, Alberto G. Corona wrote: John, please update the section All is not well in jhc-land because now things are better isn´t? Ah, are you refering to this page? http://repetae.net/computer/jhc/jhc.shtml That is just there for historical reasons as my

Re: [Haskell-cafe] speed: ghc vs gcc vs jhc

2009-02-20 Thread Alberto G. Corona
But it is very misleading. It would be nice to have a log or something similar to inform about the current state ://repetae.net/computer/jhc/jhc.shtml That is just there for historical reasons as my initial announcement. more up to date info is in the manual:

Re: [Haskell-cafe] speed: ghc vs gcc vs jhc

2009-02-20 Thread Don Stewart
bulat.ziganshin: Hello John, Saturday, February 21, 2009, 3:42:24 AM, you wrote: this is true for *application* code, but for codec you may have lots of code that just compute, compute, compute Yes indeed. If there is code like this out there for haskell, I would love to add it as