Well I am someone who happens to be VAC banned on the HL1 engine, on the
same account I keep all my Source engine games no less. FYI, I have
never used hacks, so if you're going to ban me from your dedicated
servers (which I probably won't even notice or care) you should at least
know your
innocent till proven guilty tbfh, if you cant be arsed to manage your
servers and ban cheaters as they join they you should be running servers.
2008/11/21 tgnwells [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well I am someone who happens to be VAC banned on the HL1 engine, on the
same account I keep all my Source
ignore my poor typing aswell its early here in the UK :) (shouldnt be
running servers)
2008/11/21 Craig Collinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
innocent till proven guilty tbfh, if you cant be arsed to manage your
servers and ban cheaters as they join they you should be running servers.
2008/11/21
Its only effects L4D, with sv_steamgroup_exclusive = 1
- Dedicated servers behind NAT/router with local LAN IPs are unconnectable
via direct 'connect'-command through console, or Steam Group Servers-list.
These NATted servers can be connected via the normal matchmaking lobby.
Checking the console
Would a work around be to put a password on your server instead of setting
exclusive to 1?
-Marc Sutherland
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 7:32 AM, William Stillwell
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Its only effects L4D, with sv_steamgroup_exclusive = 1
- Dedicated servers behind NAT/router with local LAN
I don't like the idea of Passwords might was well do -nomaster, and tell
people to use connect @ cmd window.
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Being VAC banned is not proven guilty?
Use performance-enhancing drugs to cheat in sports and you might not
be allowed to participate in any games or competitions for many years
or never again at all in your life. This is because a person with a
cheating mentality will cheat when given the
What did you say besides what boils down to I don't agree to prove
that the logic is bullshit?
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 3:04 AM, tgnwells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well I am someone who happens to be VAC banned on the HL1 engine, on the
same account I keep all my Source engine games no less.
A simple password is the easiest way to run a private or test server.. hands
down
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please bear in mind that there are a lot of false positives with vac ^^
Being VAC banned is not proven guilty?
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I have a VAC ban on my record (hl1).I am not a hacker.
Banning me because I'm banned on a different system would be unjustified,
and accomplish absolutely nothing other than having 1 less player on your
server.
Like someone said, if you want to stop hackers from playing on your servers,
either
By your logic, if someone robs a bank and goes to prison, then they
should get life as it's impossible to change.
Or if you get caught with pot or push someone or anything that can land
you in jail for a few months or so (contempt of court even), they should
never be let loose since they will
That is not my line of reasoning at all. Could you please point out
where I addressed the length of bans?
I merely said that cross-game banning would be a greater deterrent
than single game banning. If it was technically feasible, I could
fully support a system that allowed for bans to be
You obviously have proof to backup that statement?
2008/11/21 Philip Bembridge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
please bear in mind that there are a lot of false positives with vac ^^
Being VAC banned is not proven guilty?
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How many are false positives? How many are positives? I am very interested.
please bear in mind that there are a lot of false positives with vac ^^
Being VAC banned is not proven guilty?
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The logic does hold, the VAC ban is only 1 year, so if you rob a bank you
are sent to jail for some amount of time. Durring that time you are
banned from all other activities. Sounds like a fairly good analog to me.
Now to address Scott, how did you get HL1 VAC banned if you didn't use a
cheat?
Gregory Matherne wrote:
The logic does hold, the VAC ban is only 1 year, so if you rob a bank you
are sent to jail for some amount of time. Durring that time you are
banned from all other activities. Sounds like a fairly good analog to me.
Actually, VAC bans never go away. Not sure why you
They are permanant now, they haven't been 1 year for ages
Leonard L. Church wrote:
Gregory Matherne wrote:
The logic does hold, the VAC ban is only 1 year, so if you rob a bank you
are sent to jail for some amount of time. Durring that time you are
banned from all other activities.
Missed the update on that... Anyway if they are permanant then I agree
banning for all games might be a bit over the top.
On 11/21/08, Tom Leighton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
They are permanant now, they haven't been 1 year for ages
Leonard L. Church wrote:
Gregory Matherne wrote:
The
= death penalty
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Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Hacker
They are permanant now, they haven't been 1 year for ages
It doesn't ban you from your games. Just from playing on secure servers. The
old argument goes that Valve gave them a chance, banned cheaters for a year,
that didn't work so they increased it further.. then permanent.
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The length of the bans does not matter because cheaters are never
banned, only their account is. It's like taking the robbers shotgun
away and put it in jail for a year, five years or forever, it does not
matter, because the robber is still free and will just buy or steal a
new shotgun. Next day
Yeah, but your analogy falls apart.
Cheaters don't get money from cheating, so having to buy a new copy of a game
is a deterrent.
Stealing accounts can get you into serious trouble, and the more often you have
to do it, the more likely you are to get caught.
VAC and sv_pure go a long way to
Thankfully alot of these hackers are little kids who can't afford a new
TF2 account every time they want to hack.
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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:39:32 +0100
From: Donnie Newlove [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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In the end, neither I nor most of the other admins care what the hell you
all say. We'll do what we want with our servers. I will definitely think
about implementing this vac ban plugin as long as it has a white-list. If
someone bothers to post on my site saying they were banned but would like
For the plugin, it would be nice to restrict bans to 1 engine. Im pretty sure
the bans in the database arent all known yet or active to ban from servers for
VAC.
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Hey Guys I am renting a Ded box and choose to have 2008 installed instead of
2003
I have noticed that the games run great however the OS seems to be very
resource hungry. Does any one have any good infomation or resources about
how to trim down 2008.
Core2Duo E6600 (2 x 2.4Ghz)
2048MB DDR2
At 05:14 PM 11/21/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey Guys I am renting a Ded box and choose to have 2008 installed instead of
2003
I have noticed that the games run great however the OS seems to be very
resource hungry. Does any one have any good infomation or resources about
how to trim down
Use srvstart.exe with config file to run servers as windows services...
then no overhead of being logged in.
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Hey Guys I am renting a Ded box and choose to have 2008 installed instead of
2003
I have noticed that the games run great however the OS seems to be very
A base 2008 install with no graphics options eats about 4-500 megabytes
of ram just sitting there, logged in.
If you're used to command line access, try getting the server installed
in core mode. If I'm not mistaken, that should free up some more
resources as well. Just make sure you're
No more then 4 Servers
2 L2D 1 ZPS(16 slots) and 1 server running a source mod (20slots)
I would like to run 5 but I don't think it would be a real good idea right
now. With these 4 servers running total Ram usage is at
%64. I am not running these servers as services which sounds like a great
I fail to see the problem.
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With these 4 servers running total Ram usage is at %64.
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