Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-07 Thread ics
Model limit was and still is 1024 though i'm not completely sure how it is being calculated. Hammer reports 48/1024 during compile on my own map and i do have more than 48 models in it. 2048 is the dynamic entities limit that hasnt changed either and if the map hits about 1800, it's game over

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-06 Thread John Marbury
Oh nice, 10 new hats! On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:48 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote: You just forgot the people on the other timezones. What is convinient for you, isn't for them so updates will never get released as you hope. Personally, these 2-5am updates are fine for me. This arrived

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-06 Thread Eric Riemers
Dont forget the 10 new ways to crash a server :-) On Fri, 6 May 2011 11:16:48 -0400, John Marbury barreltr...@gmail.com wrote: Oh nice, 10 new hats! On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:48 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote: You just forgot the people on the other timezones. What is convinient for

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-06 Thread Simon Sheehan
On 5/5/2011 10:01 PM, hlds_linux-requ...@list.valvesoftware.com wrote: Re: Mandatory updates coming later today I firmly believe valve is not killing the game. The entire Hats are ruining the game issue is truly blown out of proportion. It's easy to ignore the trade stuff, and simply play

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-06 Thread Brian Simon
Actually, adding more hats to the game means more models the clients have to precache, and thus the less models mods and maps can use. Hats are solely responsible for breaking maps such as tr_walkway, achievement_turbo, and others. It has even broken cp_steel. If Valve were to, say, increase the

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-06 Thread Sazpaimon
They doubled it when cp_steel broke. I think it's in 2048 now. I think that'll keep us safe for a little while. On 5/6/2011 10:24 PM, Brian Simon wrote: Actually, adding more hats to the game means more models the clients have to precache, and thus the less models mods and maps can use. Hats

[hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread Eric Smith
We're getting ready to release mandatory updates for TF2, CS:S, DoD:S, and HL2:DM this afternoon. This is just a heads-up that they're coming. -Eric ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread D3vilfish - Simiancage.org
Thanks Eric. -Original Message- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Smith Sent: 05 May 2011 19:02 To: 'h...@list.valvesoftware.com'; 'hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com' Subject: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread John Marbury
Is it still afternoon in valve-land Eric? I think you guys need to put batteries in your clocks. On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Eric Smith er...@valvesoftware.com wrote: We're getting ready to release mandatory updates for TF2, CS:S, DoD:S, and HL2:DM* this afternoon.* This is just a

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread Vathral
On 05/05/2011 07:12 PM, John Marbury wrote: Is it still afternoon in valve-land Eric? I think you guys need to put batteries in your clocks. On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Eric Smither...@valvesoftware.com wrote: We're getting ready to release mandatory updates for TF2, CS:S, DoD:S, and

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread Brent Veal
It's just past 4pm at Valve right now so, yes, I'd say it's still afternoon there On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 4:12 PM, John Marbury barreltr...@gmail.com wrote: Is it still afternoon in valve-land Eric? I think you guys need to put batteries in your clocks. On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Eric

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread E3pO
To bad email doesn't have a like button... @John Marbury On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 7:12 PM, John Marbury barreltr...@gmail.com wrote: Is it still afternoon in valve-land Eric? I think you guys need to put batteries in your clocks. On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Eric Smith

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread Steven Miano
Valve time is well documented, also I'm fairly certain they're on Pacific time in the US. I'd expect no sooner than 8 or 9pm Eastern time. On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 7:12 PM, John Marbury barreltr...@gmail.com wrote: Is it still afternoon in valve-land Eric? I think you guys need to put

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread Kyle Sanderson
Updates are only pushed at the end of the day. Compile without -Wall - Straight to Production. Let it cook over night, fix aftermath the next morning / week. That is unless if they've moved to a better, sensible model. On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Steven Miano mian...@gmail.com wrote: Valve

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread John Marbury
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Kyle Sanderson kyle.l...@gmail.com wrote: Updates are only pushed at the end of the day. Compile without -Wall - Straight to Production. Let it cook over night, fix aftermath the next morning / week. That is unless if they've moved to a better, sensible model.

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread Eric Smith
We're about 45 minutes from having it be released. -Eric -Original Message- From: Eric Smith Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 11:02 AM To: 'h...@list.valvesoftware.com'; 'hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com' Subject: Mandatory updates coming later today We're getting ready to release

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread John Marbury
Well, I'm sure it's afternoon *somewhere!* I guess we should have expected the *usual* * hit-the-update-button-on-the-way-out-the-door-and-not-fix-anything-until-Monday * routine. On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Eric Smith er...@valvesoftware.com wrote: We're about 45 minutes from having it

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread Tony Paloma
: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today Well, I'm sure it's afternoon *somewhere!* I guess we should have expected the *usual* * hit-the-update-button-on-the-way-out-the-door-and-not-fix-anything-until-Mon day * routine. On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Eric Smith er...@valvesoftware.com

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread John Marbury
mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today Well, I'm sure it's afternoon *somewhere!* I guess we should have expected the *usual* * hit-the-update-button-on-the-way-out-the-door-and-not-fix-anything-until-Mon day * routine. On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:26 PM

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread Jonah Hirsch
It's been 49 minutes. Everybody panic. --- Jonah Hirsch On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Eric Smith er...@valvesoftware.com wrote: We're about 45 minutes from having it be released. -Eric -Original Message- From: Eric Smith Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 11:02

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread Tony Paloma
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today Too bad it takes Valve 2+ days to fix the bugs they add in every update. Say, speaking of bugs in updates, wasn't that the point of the TF2 beta? Or I guess they just like to test things

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread 1nsane
Something would be wrong if Valve made their ETA. Everything is right on track. On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Jonah Hirsch crazydog...@gmail.com wrote: It's been 49 minutes. Everybody panic. --- Jonah Hirsch On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Eric Smith

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread Sir Jake
Marbury Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 6:06 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today Too bad it takes Valve 2+ days to fix the bugs they add in every update. Say, speaking of bugs in updates, wasn't that the point

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread Kyle Sanderson
: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of John Marbury Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 6:06 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today Too bad it takes Valve 2

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread bottige...@gmail.com
...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of John Marbury Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 6:06 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today Too bad it takes Valve 2+ days to fix the bugs they add

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread John Marbury
] On Behalf Of John Marbury Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 6:06 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today Too bad it takes Valve 2+ days to fix the bugs they add in every update. Say, speaking of bugs in updates, wasn't

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread Nicholas Hastings
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of John Marbury Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 6:06 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today Too bad it takes Valve 2+ days to fix the bugs they add in every update

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread clad iron
...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of John Marbury Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 6:06 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today Too bad it takes Valve 2+ days to fix

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread clad iron
...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of John Marbury Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 6:06 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today Too bad it takes Valve 2+ days to fix the bugs they add in every update. Say, speaking of bugs

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread Nicholas Hastings
Message- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of John Marbury Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 6:06 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today Too bad

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread DontWannaName!
dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today Too bad it takes Valve 2+ days to fix the bugs they add in every update. Say, speaking of bugs in updates, wasn't that the point of the TF2 beta? Or I guess they just like to test

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread John Marbury
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Nicholas Hastings nshasti...@gmail.comwrote: No one's forcing you to run servers. Nicky, I've been running TF2 servers since the game launched, we used to run 5+ TF2 servers, now we're down to 3 server and two of them have been converted to trade servers. Soon

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread Jonah Hirsch
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 5:53 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today Well, I'm sure it's afternoon *somewhere!* I guess we should have expected the *usual* * hit-the-update-button

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread bottige...@gmail.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of John Marbury Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 6:06 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today Too bad it takes Valve 2+ days to fix the bugs they add in every update

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread Nicholas Hastings
That's weird, Johnny. Our TF2 servers haven't wavered in popularity in a while, maybe even been gaining a little. I think that maybe you're just Doing It Wrong™ . glhf with 'dem trading servers. On 5/5/2011 9:47 PM, John Marbury wrote: On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Nicholas

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread ardchoille
1400 in the afternoon here in NZ. Thou it is Friday. Afternoon update would be nice ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread Violent Crimes
On 5/5/2011 9:47 PM, John Marbury wrote: On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Nicholas Hastingsnshasti...@gmail.comwrote: No one's forcing you to run servers. Nicky, I've been running TF2 servers since the game launched, we used to run 5+ TF2 servers, now we're down to 3 server and two of them have

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread John Marbury
http://armthehomeless.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/umad.jpg Damn, I sure can predict the fanboy rage can't I? I only mentioned my servers because they were full 24/7 for the last however many years, now it's only the trade servers that stay full. - Well it looks like the Valve update guy fell

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread clad iron
Guess i'll just have to look for the update tomorrow as well, as it's almost 10:30 PM here. Bed Time. On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:14 PM, John Marbury barreltr...@gmail.com wrote: http://armthehomeless.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/umad.jpg Damn, I sure can predict the fanboy rage can't I? I

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread Nicholas Hastings
I think we found out who's raging. mirite? On 5/5/2011 10:14 PM, John Marbury wrote: http://armthehomeless.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/umad.jpg Damn, I sure can predict the fanboy rage can't I? I only mentioned my servers because they were full 24/7 for the last however many years, now it's

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread Brian Simon
So right. On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Nicholas Hastings nshasti...@gmail.comwrote: I think we found out who's raging. mirite? On 5/5/2011 10:14 PM, John Marbury wrote: http://armthehomeless.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/umad.jpg Damn, I sure can predict the fanboy rage can't I? I

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread Vathral
Well, with whatever happened today with the update, would have been nice to atleast notify everyone that it's postponed (if it is at this point). ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread Josh Stratton
And... It finally is released. On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Vathral vath...@gmail.com wrote: Well, with whatever happened today with the update, would have been nice to atleast notify everyone that it's postponed (if it is at this point). ___

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread Vathral
Update seems to be out? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

2011-05-05 Thread ics
You just forgot the people on the other timezones. What is convinient for you, isn't for them so updates will never get released as you hope. Personally, these 2-5am updates are fine for me. This arrived 5:37 at morning. -ics 6.5.2011 4:43, DontWannaName! kirjoitti: I think 7pm is a little