Re: [hlds_linux] upcoming orange box framerate changes
On 21.07.2011 01:45, AnAkIn . wrote: Don't worry about the GSPs. You can keep selling 1+ FPS servers while it's already limited to 500. See here: http://www.verygames.net/product/8/DediGames/DediGames_PRO I don't see any useful information for an admin how to still achieve 10k FPS?! -- Marcel ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] upcoming orange box framerate changes
His point was that regardless of a FPS cap, GSPs will still try to sell servers as greater FPS than is possible. On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Marcel hlds_li...@vermasslt.de wrote: On 21.07.2011 01:45, AnAkIn . wrote: Don't worry about the GSPs. You can keep selling 1+ FPS servers while it's already limited to 500. See here: http://www.verygames.net/product/8/DediGames/DediGames_PRO I don't see any useful information for an admin how to still achieve 10k FPS?! -- Marcel ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] upcoming orange box framerate changes
Hello, For your information, with our lib preloading we are still able to get around 10K FPS at the moment. As GSP, we DO worry about the future updates that could break the high FPS offers. And in the case of we cannot provide high FPS anymore, we would adapt the offers/refund our customers. Cheers... -- Thiesson Johann VeryGames 2011/7/21 AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com Don't worry about the GSPs. You can keep selling 1+ FPS servers while it's already limited to 500. See here: http://www.verygames.net/product/8/DediGames/DediGames_PRO 2011/7/21 Sir Jake can_kic...@hotmail.com This is good for everyone, feel bad for a few of the host's out there. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Best regards, AnAkIn, - ESL EU TF2 Admin http://www.esl.eu/eu/tf2 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] upcoming orange box framerate changes
You've been providing tickrate 100 offer for years in TF2 while it wasn't possible and you have never refunded any of your customers AFAIK. 2011/7/21 Thiesson Johann joh...@verygames.net Hello, For your information, with our lib preloading we are still able to get around 10K FPS at the moment. As GSP, we DO worry about the future updates that could break the high FPS offers. And in the case of we cannot provide high FPS anymore, we would adapt the offers/refund our customers. Cheers... -- Thiesson Johann VeryGames 2011/7/21 AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com Don't worry about the GSPs. You can keep selling 1+ FPS servers while it's already limited to 500. See here: http://www.verygames.net/product/8/DediGames/DediGames_PRO 2011/7/21 Sir Jake can_kic...@hotmail.com This is good for everyone, feel bad for a few of the host's out there. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Best regards, AnAkIn, - ESL EU TF2 Admin http://www.esl.eu/eu/tf2 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] upcoming orange box framerate changes
Ok, here is the point. All our offers are multi-games/multi-mods. If you have a tick100 option, it is not activated on TF2, but if you switch your server to CSS it will work. If you play only TF2, yes, this is useless... A customer can make a mistake, so you can change the offer, for free, at any time, on our panel, to remove the tick100 option (for example) and get extra time on the rental in return (in proportion). Cheers... -- Thiesson Johann VeryGames 2011/7/21 AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com You've been providing tickrate 100 offer for years in TF2 while it wasn't possible and you have never refunded any of your customers AFAIK. 2011/7/21 Thiesson Johann joh...@verygames.net Hello, For your information, with our lib preloading we are still able to get around 10K FPS at the moment. As GSP, we DO worry about the future updates that could break the high FPS offers. And in the case of we cannot provide high FPS anymore, we would adapt the offers/refund our customers. Cheers... -- Thiesson Johann VeryGames 2011/7/21 AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com Don't worry about the GSPs. You can keep selling 1+ FPS servers while it's already limited to 500. See here: http://www.verygames.net/product/8/DediGames/DediGames_PRO 2011/7/21 Sir Jake can_kic...@hotmail.com This is good for everyone, feel bad for a few of the host's out there. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Best regards, AnAkIn, - ESL EU TF2 Admin http://www.esl.eu/eu/tf2 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] upcoming orange box framerate changes
Maybe you should add a warning while renting a server that it's not available for TF2/L4D/L4D2 etc then. You know that most players are not aware of this. 2011/7/21 Thiesson Johann joh...@verygames.net Ok, here is the point. All our offers are multi-games/multi-mods. If you have a tick100 option, it is not activated on TF2, but if you switch your server to CSS it will work. If you play only TF2, yes, this is useless... A customer can make a mistake, so you can change the offer, for free, at any time, on our panel, to remove the tick100 option (for example) and get extra time on the rental in return (in proportion). Cheers... -- Thiesson Johann VeryGames 2011/7/21 AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com You've been providing tickrate 100 offer for years in TF2 while it wasn't possible and you have never refunded any of your customers AFAIK. 2011/7/21 Thiesson Johann joh...@verygames.net Hello, For your information, with our lib preloading we are still able to get around 10K FPS at the moment. As GSP, we DO worry about the future updates that could break the high FPS offers. And in the case of we cannot provide high FPS anymore, we would adapt the offers/refund our customers. Cheers... -- Thiesson Johann VeryGames 2011/7/21 AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com Don't worry about the GSPs. You can keep selling 1+ FPS servers while it's already limited to 500. See here: http://www.verygames.net/product/8/DediGames/DediGames_PRO 2011/7/21 Sir Jake can_kic...@hotmail.com This is good for everyone, feel bad for a few of the host's out there. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Best regards, AnAkIn, - ESL EU TF2 Admin http://www.esl.eu/eu/tf2 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] upcoming orange box framerate changes
As far as i know, tickrate 100 only take more cpu usage, so if the client wants tickrate 100(no matter if theres no difference) they have to pay for extra cpu. You've been providing tickrate 100 offer for years in TF2 while it wasn't possible and you have never refunded any of your customers AFAIK. 2011/7/21 Thiesson Johannjoh...@verygames.net Hello, For your information, with our lib preloading we are still able to get around 10K FPS at the moment. As GSP, we DO worry about the future updates that could break the high FPS offers. And in the case of we cannot provide high FPS anymore, we would adapt the offers/refund our customers. Cheers... -- Thiesson Johann VeryGames 2011/7/21 AnAkIn .anakin...@gmail.com Don't worry about the GSPs. You can keep selling 1+ FPS servers while it's already limited to 500. See here: http://www.verygames.net/product/8/DediGames/DediGames_PRO 2011/7/21 Sir Jakecan_kic...@hotmail.com This is good for everyone, feel bad for a few of the host's out there. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Best regards, AnAkIn, - ESL EU TF2 Admin http://www.esl.eu/eu/tf2 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] upcoming orange box framerate changes
he have a warning already in red it only work on css On 21 Jul 2011 11:58, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe you should add a warning while renting a server that it's not available for TF2/L4D/L4D2 etc then. You know that most players are not aware of this. 2011/7/21 Thiesson Johann joh...@verygames.net Ok, here is the point. All our offers are multi-games/multi-mods. If you have a tick100 option, it is not activated on TF2, but if you switch your server to CSS it will work. If you play only TF2, yes, this is useless... A customer can make a mistake, so you can change the offer, for free, at any time, on our panel, to remove the tick100 option (for example) and get extra time on the rental in return (in proportion). Cheers... -- Thiesson Johann VeryGames 2011/7/21 AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com You've been providing tickrate 100 offer for years in TF2 while it wasn't possible and you have never refunded any of your customers AFAIK. 2011/7/21 Thiesson Johann joh...@verygames.net Hello, For your information, with our lib preloading we are still able to get around 10K FPS at the moment. As GSP, we DO worry about the future updates that could break the high FPS offers. And in the case of we cannot provide high FPS anymore, we would adapt the offers/refund our customers. Cheers... -- Thiesson Johann VeryGames 2011/7/21 AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com Don't worry about the GSPs. You can keep selling 1+ FPS servers while it's already limited to 500. See here: http://www.verygames.net/product/8/DediGames/DediGames_PRO 2011/7/21 Sir Jake can_kic...@hotmail.com This is good for everyone, feel bad for a few of the host's out there. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Best regards, AnAkIn, - ESL EU TF2 Admin http://www.esl.eu/eu/tf2 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] upcoming orange box framerate changes
Hi all, a heads up to TF2 and CS:S server operators - A near-future update (not necessarily the next one) will change the way that framerate is handled in the dedicated server. All users, especially those with very low pings, should receive a smoother gameplay experience with less jitter and more consistent-feeling latency. Another effect of these changes is that all Orange Box (TF2, CS:S, etc) dedicated servers will run with a locked framerate, similar to L4D/L4D2. The fps_max convar will not have any effect on servers. (It remains as a client option since limiting your FPS can reduce GPU heat and overall power consumption.) Although we don't normally give notice before updates, this is a potentially disruptive change for the server rental market, so those who currently charge premiums for higher framerates should probably start considering their options now. Henry G. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] upcoming orange box framerate changes
any changes related to cpu usage? Even fps_max 70 take all my resources. Hi all, a heads up to TF2 and CS:S server operators - A near-future update (not necessarily the next one) will change the way that framerate is handled in the dedicated server. All users, especially those with very low pings, should receive a smoother gameplay experience with less jitter and more consistent-feeling latency. Another effect of these changes is that all Orange Box (TF2, CS:S, etc) dedicated servers will run with a locked framerate, similar to L4D/L4D2. The fps_max convar will not have any effect on servers. (It remains as a client option since limiting your FPS can reduce GPU heat and overall power consumption.) Although we don't normally give notice before updates, this is a potentially disruptive change for the server rental market, so those who currently charge premiums for higher framerates should probably start considering their options now. Henry G. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] upcoming orange box framerate changes
This is good for everyone, feel bad for a few of the host's out there. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] upcoming orange box framerate changes
Don't worry about the GSPs. You can keep selling 1+ FPS servers while it's already limited to 500. See here: http://www.verygames.net/product/8/DediGames/DediGames_PRO 2011/7/21 Sir Jake can_kic...@hotmail.com This is good for everyone, feel bad for a few of the host's out there. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Best regards, AnAkIn, - ESL EU TF2 Admin http://www.esl.eu/eu/tf2 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] upcoming orange box framerate changes
Is there any added performance cost to this roll out? A good chunk of us are dying as it is. Native x86_64 binaries would be fantastic. Kyle. On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Sir Jake can_kic...@hotmail.com wrote: This is good for everyone, feel bad for a few of the host's out there. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] upcoming orange box framerate changes
Does this include orange box mods or is that up to the developer? On Jul 20, 2011 7:52 PM, Kyle Sanderson kyle.l...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any added performance cost to this roll out? A good chunk of us are dying as it is. Native x86_64 binaries would be fantastic. Kyle. On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Sir Jake can_kic...@hotmail.com wrote: This is good for everyone, feel bad for a few of the host's out there. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] upcoming orange box framerate changes
That is really good news! 2011/7/21 hlds_linux-requ...@list.valvesoftware.com: Message: 4 Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 22:56:58 + From: Henry Goffin hen...@valvesoftware.com To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com, 'h...@list.valvesoftware.com' h...@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] upcoming orange box framerate changes Message-ID: 6df83ef2a11d2249a0a8513be31e30c3073...@exchange10.valvesoftware.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi all, a heads up to TF2 and CS:S server operators - A near-future update (not necessarily the next one) will change the way that framerate is handled in the dedicated server. All users, especially those with very low pings, should receive a smoother gameplay experience with less jitter and more consistent-feeling latency. Another effect of these changes is that all Orange Box (TF2, CS:S, etc) dedicated servers will run with a locked framerate, similar to L4D/L4D2. The fps_max convar will not have any effect on servers. (It remains as a client option since limiting your FPS can reduce GPU heat and overall power consumption.) Although we don't normally give notice before updates, this is a potentially disruptive change for the server rental market, so those who currently charge premiums for higher framerates should probably start considering their options now. Henry G. -- С уважением и пожеланием хорошего настроения, Никита Булаев ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
