Given the interest and comment on this list back when the U.S. military
started using virtually bugles for funerals, I am surprised that no one has
brought up this, much creepier, item that was in the press over the
weekend. This is the link to the NY Times article, but I'm sure that a
search in
Happy Birthday Hans! Thank you for taking the time to share your wisdom and
experience with the members of the horn list. You have greatly enriched my
knowledge and understanding of our instrument and our musical world. A
toast to your continued good health.
Happy Thoughts,
Chris Bonner
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A question I have for you, with respect for your considerable experience and
in all seriousness: Why has Holton received so much abuse? If they are
truly putting out a consistently good quality product, then why the bad
reputation?
Maybe it's because they make more french horns than any other
In a message dated 3/16/04 6:32:20 AM Mountain Standard Time,
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Interesting experiences all, but I can't help asking who among the horn
players in all the major US orchestras are playing Holton horns.
But aren't we still talking about horns for Middle School bands?
But aren't we still talking about horns for Middle School bands? Sure a
Holton 179 doesn't compare to an Alexander - it's not meant to. We're
looking at
completely different needs, here.
Sonja
Good point Sonja!
The comparison to an Alex is ironic, because that is what I play now
Mr. Smith,
With all due respect (and I do have enormous respect for hard working,
underpaid, often unappreciated middle/high school band directors), I started
on the Horn in 4th grade and was neither confused nor frustrated. This
year, my 11 year old son has started the Horn (in F) and is neither
On Mar 16, 2004, at 11:47 AM, Timothy A. Johnson wrote:
All the horn players I have played with up until a couple
years ago had started on the Horn.
Of course, no one told me that the horn was too hard for me to play. I
guess that wasn't part of the pedagogical repertoire back in those
days.
I would also like to wish Prof Pizka a wonderful happy birthday. I
rarely contribute to this list as I am an aspiring armature but I always
listen and have always found Prof Pizka's advice helpful, challenging and
honest. He truly is committed to helping horn players improve. I would love
the
Josh C wrote
I never said I couldn't play in tune on one. I can play in tune on a garden
hose with a funnel jammed in the end. I said they were notoriously
difficult to play in tune. Glad you've got my problem all figured out
though. Now if I can just figure out which end to put the
Mr. Smith,
With all due respect (and I do have enormous respect for hard working,
underpaid, often unappreciated middle/high school band directors), I started
on the Horn in 4th grade and was neither confused nor frustrated. This
year, my 11 year old son has started the Horn (in F) and is neither
Dave Tuttle wrote:
...I don't see what the big Bb deal is. Many times in a middle
school situation, your horn players are trumpet converts and the key
of the horn makes the transition easier. Obviously, an outstanding
player should be transitioned to a double horn anyway, so you're
going to have
I heard that they are making the robotic horn player so realistic that it
refuses to play and breaks after going through a Sousa march.
Michael Scheimer, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,
Student
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Thank you, Hans for keeping all of us in check. The list would not be nearly
as helpful without you. Happy Birthday.
Michael Scheimer, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
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In a message dated 03/16/2004 11:59:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But aren't we still talking about horns for Middle School bands? Sure a
Holton 179 doesn't compare to an Alexander - it's not meant to. We're
looking at
completely different needs, here.
Sonja
Given the tight school budget situation and all the complaints about new horns, I
would suggest taking a look at various sources for used instruments. Vintage horns by
Reynolds (Chambers and Pottag), Conn (6D), Holton, Yamaha, and King sell on eBay all
the time in the $500-$700 range. The
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date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 08:36:25 -0500
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subject: RE: [Hornlist] Horns for Middle School
When I look at what most are playing, the names E. Schmidt, Conn (old ones).
Paxman, Yamaha, Hill,
In a message dated 3/16/2004 6:09:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Oooo, o, let me answer this one! I was watching NASCAR this past
weekend and all of the top drivers were driving custom cars. There wasn't a
Chevy Impala in the entire starting field.
They may be
Hey ppl,
I would just like to know if there is any good horn-related channel on IRC.
Or if there isn't one, if anyone would be willing to raise one...
I'll keep in touch ;-)
Ricardo Constantino
PS: Sorry for my english, it's not my native language :-)
I don't believe the analogy really fits... I agree there should be limitations to
engine power on public roads, but should there be limitations in pitch, response,
reliability, etc. on horns when a player is not in a major orchestra? Your sarcasm
skirts my perfectly legitimate question as to
My question remains, why are Holtons so popular with schools, when
Yamaha, Hoyer, and others make similarly priced instruments?
This is going to sound harsh and I don't mean it to be. I have owned two
Holtons (an H77 and a 179). I don't like Holtons (except Merkers), so I
will admit my
That is exactly what I thought as well. Thank you for your direct and honest
statement. Not harsh at all. By the way, Hoyer is carried by Woodwind and Brasswind.
The 7801, 6801, and new 5801PML are all very fine instruments, as far as I can tell.
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At 17:27 16-03-04, you wrote:
Given the tight school budget situation and all the complaints about new
horns, I would suggest taking a look at various sources for used instruments.
I suggested this to a band director friend who thought it was a
great idea... but the powers that be
All:
Does anybody know if the Haydn concerto for two horns
has an HOB number? None of my sources list one. I may
be playing this next year with my orchestra and the
librarian needs the information.
Thank you in advance, Scott in Altoona
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Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo!
I would venture that most people on the list have no idea what IRC is. Before
the days of napster, I would often download these new things called mpeg3s,
that sounded just like CDs on my 28.8kpbs modem.
I used to hang out in irc a lot actually. Pre-instant messenger era.
Chris
--- Ricardo
Josh,
Thanks for the reply. I won't discredit the misfortune of others, but I
will report that I have not had any gross valves problems with my
run-of-the-mill Holtons since I started playing them in 1979.
In the last two years I've purchased two new Merkers and a used one.
Overall fit and
On 3/16/04 8:21 PM, Pandolfi, Orlando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have no problem with you defending your beloved Holton
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Hi Orlando,
I don't think it's a matter of defending any one particular brand of
instrument here, although I think the reason you may be hearing such a great
range of
The Hoboken does not include this double concerto ( I checked it), but
anyway, it sounds like Haydn. If your librarian orders the parts, he
will get only the concerto we all know, no problem. It is part of my
publications.
BTW: a lot of new titles available: chamber music, double concertos
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