Looks great so far, but there are a few things I find not to be so helpful:
1. They forgot the corks.
2. It doesn't appear to be tunable.
3. I'll bet Thompson Edition doesn't make a case to fit it.
JEN
P.S. Do they make a stop mute for larger horns, too?
Dan McCartney
Now to take the subject down a few common denominator
levels, to the ranks of the uneducated and definitely
unpaid-- thoughts on conductors of adult amateur
groups. There is much that could be discussed here
among those who chose to think about it at least a
little.
Amateurs play in ensembles
As I conduct an amateur group by myself since many years
(even a horn ensemble) I may add a few words here:
These preconditions of handing out the music in advance etc.
is just normal we will not talk about these self-evident
things.
The first thing most important for any conductor is it, to
The fault of listening to recordings is not a fault of student conductors.
It seems to be a relatively new method of learning, when I started the horn
(in the dream time - that long ago) it was pretty much not mentioned
occasionally on a new piece someone might buy a recording, but on the
Two observations on what Steve said, as to not always the best getting the
job, as it is in all industries/pursuits. A novel of the later part of the
last Century, On Wings of Eagles follows the two careers of officers in
the US Army. One is the perfect careerist seeking out the right job and
He went on to say that the LA Horn Club did it with their own
interpretation that didn't match what he had written. Saying further that
since the recording he hardly every heard it played in any other
manner than that of the recording.
You don't need recordings for that sort of thing to
The opposite side of Han's coin is the conductor of amateur groups that is
too willing to pass over something that doesn't sound right. I consider it
a worst sin for a conductor of an amateur group to say something doesn't
sound right -fix it rather than say nothing at all.
Picking up on Hans
In my view, many of the same characteristics are needed for a conductor of
amateur groups as for professional, but perhaps not in such concentrated
form.
One key difference is that amateurs play for enjoyment, and if they stop
enjoying themselves they will stop playing or go elsewhere. That means
I used to help out with a local amateur orchestra, the conductor of which
was notorious - he used to yell and bawl at his players and more than once I
saw
grown men and women crying behind their stands. The concerts were terrific!
Eventually, the management took him to one side and told
Check out my recording of this work (and all of the other of his works for horn
and piano published during his lifetime) at
http://www.public.asu.edu/~jqerics/Les_Adieux.htm
John
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It's all about leadership, isn't it? Some leaders can be hated yet really
get the best from those he/she leads. Others can be very popular and get
the best from those he/she leads. Others who scream and yell come across as
martinets and others who are friendly get just mediocre performances.
Lawrence Yates wrote:
I used to help out with a local amateur orchestra, the
conductor of which was notorious - he used to yell and bawl
at his players and more than once I saw grown men and women
crying behind their stands. The concerts were terrific!
Eventually, the management
Bill Gross wrote:
It's all about leadership, isn't it? Some leaders can be
hated yet really get the best from those he/she leads.
Others can be very popular and get the best from those he/she
leads. Others who scream and yell come across as martinets
and others who are friendly get
Mark,
John Ericson (horn professor at Arizona State), has a recording of the Theme
and Variations, as well as all of the other F. Strauss works for horn and
piano. The CD is titled Les Adieux and is available from Summit Records. I
personally don't have any other recordings of that
O.k., Matthew, I dont have the same experience as you
comparing old new conductors the kind of musician
committees. My experience is a bit longer with most great
calibers (most of them dead now ! How was the word ? Dead
conductor, good conductor?? ) No, no, it is quite different
than you said.
That´s what I said allready in my letter. Critizism must be
positive not destructive. A conductor who yells to the
orchestra or at a certain player, will lose his last value
the very same moment.
And for the amateurs: less (challenging) is often more
(quality) and thus more enjoyment.
Does not only apply to amateur orchestra. Great pigs in
front of the orchestra (just reminding a world famous
conductor who looked as his musicians in the manner of a
rattle snake) often make the greatest concerts. Not so nice
truth, but good for the music not so good for the nerves
of many
In my collection, I have a 6D with the Buescher name on it. I know
there are a lot of 6D copies, but this one has the Conn trademark Deco
braces. The horn differs from the 6D in that the lead pipe is tapered
through the main tuning slide, all the way to the valves. The legs of
the main tuning
Company politics are so important, I just can't justify wasting time on
the job I was hired to do.
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Two observations on what Steve said, as to not
Mark,
This is the link to the 4 recordings carried by ArkivMusic.
http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/albumList.jsp?name_id1=11680name_role1=1comp_id=49979bcorder=15
I have heard them and they are all at least competent. Frankly, when you
are talking about a piece like this, there is really
Hello Peter, you are mixing things up indeed. R.Strauss
wrote a piece Introduction, Thema Var. Op.17 at age 14
(1878) but it has nothing to do with this op.13 by Franz
Strauss. It exists with orchestral accompaniment as does his
original fantasy op.6 other pieces, I discovered two
pieces for two
Hey list, looking for a little feedback.
I am doing a recital this year and have put together this so far as my rep
*From Russia with horn (or somtheign cool and witty me thinks!)*
**
*Four Pieces for Horn and Piano. - Gliere*
**1. Romance
2. Valse Triste
3. Intermezzo
4. Nocturne
I would like to suggest the
Concerto for Horn and Hardart
by P.D.Q. Bach, although Hardart players are hard to find these days, and
automats even harder.
Steve tongue firmly in cheek Freides
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A piece with a Russian/Polish character I've gotten good response to is
Miniatury, for horn and piano, by Czeslaw Grudzinski, in six short
movements. The horn part is quite low, with the piano pulling a lot of
the weight, so it gives you a break between the fireworks. With the
right
Steve new automat in the Village
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3) Hold your instructive comments until a substantial
portion of the piece has been played-- better, wait
until the movement is finished. Then go over your
long list of comments with everyone. My biggest gripe
is aimed at conductors who stop every time they have
some comment to make--
Jonathan West wrote:
3) Hold your instructive comments until a substantial
portion of the
piece has been played-- better, wait until the movement is
finished.
Then go over your long list of comments with everyone.
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I don't think this is necessarily the case. I have no
Mathew James wrote:
*(Need to put an adaptation here to fill either ensemble or
unaccompanied by a russian composer... ideas?)
Buyanovsky Pieces for solo horn. (pub. McCoy)
Greg
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Wouldn´t it be better to prepare a nice calm piece as encore
instead of a squeezed Long Call (after the whole program).
Are you really thinking about the Long Call or about the
Call from Siegfrieds Rhine Journey ? A nice calm piece
would be Tcherepnine´s Esquisse, short calm, just
showing nice
Greg, there would be a lot of other pieces to put on the
program to fill a two or three hour or longer program. But
isn´t the program long enough with the four pieces the
concerto ? The player has just one pair of lips
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Mathew James wrote:
... recital ... russian based ...
Want to make 'em cry? Try something like Dark Eyes (Ochi chornya)
or There were days (westerners will recognize this as Those were the
days (my friend, we thought they'd never end...). Either
unaccompanied, or perhaps with a liquid
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