Re: [Hornlist] Stopped Horn Pitch

2004-09-15 Thread Kjellrun Hestekin
Since the pitch is lowered a half step by shortening the horn a little, Huh??? -- Kjellrun K. Hestekin School of Music, MUN St. John's, NFLD. CANADA A1C 5S7 ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at

Re: [Hornlist] Stopped Horn Pitch

2004-09-12 Thread carson smith
Does anyone know what issue Dr. Robert Pyle's article can be found in? Or any other articles on this subject? Thanks, Carson From: Hans Pizka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Horn List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Horn List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Stopped Horn Pitch Date: Sun, 12

Re: [Hornlist] Stopped Horn Pitch

2004-09-12 Thread Greg Campbell
carson smith wrote: Does anyone know what issue Dr. Robert Pyle's article can be found in? Or any other articles on this subject? Thanks, Carson The index to all the articles in The Horn Call can be found on the IHS's website, www.hornsociety.org Greg

Re: [Hornlist] Stopped Horn Pitch

2004-09-12 Thread Michiel van der Linden
carson smith schreef: Does anyone know what issue Dr. Robert Pyle's article can be found in? Or any other articles on this subject? Thanks, Carson I don't know if this is what you're looking for, but there is an article here http://www.well.com/user/smalin/hornstop.htm Michiel van der Linden

Re: [Hornlist] Stopped Horn Pitch

2004-09-12 Thread Hans Pizka
This is quite an helpful article, but Why does the writer use concert pitch (using F-Horn) ? This is just disturbing. Why does the author say for any given fingering ? The fingering is not relevant at all as it just changes the length of the sounding wave. The phenomenon is more or less

Re: [Hornlist] Stopped Horn Pitch

2004-09-12 Thread carson smith
of Hand-Stopping. 53 From: Greg Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Horn List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Horn List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Stopped Horn Pitch Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 23:27:52 -0700 carson smith wrote: Does anyone know what issue Dr. Robert Pyle's article can

Re: [Hornlist] Stopped Horn Pitch

2004-09-12 Thread Paul Mansur
On Sunday, September 12, 2004, at 02:12 AM, carson smith wrote: Does anyone know what issue Dr. Robert Pyle's article can be found in? Or any other articles on this subject? Thanks, Carson Try Bob's column, AudioPyle' in HORN CALL vol. XXI, no. 1, pp. 36-43 Factititious Tones and Hand Stopping.

[Hornlist] Stopped Horn Pitch

2004-09-11 Thread carson smith
I am doing a report for a basic acoustics class on hand stopping. It involves a 1-2 page write up and a five minute presentation. From what I have read so far it seems as though the hand lowers the harmonic series as it is inserted by decreasing the number of standing waves. What I do not

Re: [Hornlist] Stopped Horn Pitch

2004-09-11 Thread Valkhorn
Ack, I hope I didn't have dyslexia when I wrote the response. If anyone wishes to correct me feel free, but that's as I understand it anyways. -William In a message dated 9/11/2004 5:42:57 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Scott, Then why is it that inserting the hand

Re: [Hornlist] Stopped Horn Pitch

2004-09-11 Thread scott young
- Original Message - From: carson smith Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 6:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Stopped Horn Pitch Scott, Then why is it that inserting the hand gradually lowers the pitch? --Carson ___ post: [EMAIL

Re: [Hornlist] Stopped Horn Pitch

2004-09-11 Thread Karl Kemm
You will likely receive an avalanche of responses arguing if the pitch goes up or down but as you have correctly observed it does both. As your hand closes off the bell it effects the sound waves as you mentioned and lowers the pitch. This lowered pitch also maintains its relative position in

Re: [Hornlist] Stopped Horn Pitch

2004-09-11 Thread carson smith
Based on your responses and what I have read: Pitch gets lower as hand moves in. Pitch decays exponentially? with hand opening. Thus as the hand gets very close the pitch goes down faster (this explains why the shift is so abrupt). So much so that the fundamental is gone and the 1st harmonic is

Re: [Hornlist] Stopped Horn Pitch

2004-09-11 Thread william bamberg
The pitch rises when the stopping is complete enough to effectively shorten the horn to an F# instrument, for an F horn. It raises a Bb horn more than a half step, and requires a separate stopping valve. I suspect this effect is why the horn is in F in the first place. Otherwise, they would

Re: [Hornlist] Stopped Horn Pitch

2004-09-11 Thread Hans Pizka
It seems a bit difficult to fill the mouth with helium at many places where stopping occurs right after a very short pause of just half a measure or less, like before the last written long held e in the Long Call. And to Carson: timber timbre a most different things. To William: the F horn came