[HPDesignJet_Printers] Re: Vivera or NOT? (revisited)

2005-08-24 Thread hjswim2
Hi Gang, Here's a follow-up based on a FAQ sheet dated May 2005 I just received from HP (these are extracts): Q5: What is the correct pronunciation of ‘Vivera’? A5: The correct pronunciation of Vivera is Vih-VAIR-uh. Q7: Which new printers are compatible with HP Vivera Inks? A7: HP Vivera Inks

Re: [HPDesignJet_Printers] Re: Vivera or NOT? (revisited)

2005-08-24 Thread Bill G
Nice Work Haralad.now we finally know everything about Vivera inks! Bill : Hi Gang, Here's a follow-up based on a FAQ sheet dated May 2005 I just received from HP (these are extracts): Q5: What is the correct pronunciation of ‘Vivera’? A5: The correct pronunciation of Vivera is

Re: [HPDesignJet_Printers] Re: Vivera or NOT?

2005-08-16 Thread Bill G
* Here is what the HP media team says about Vivera differences (just received this from HP): The bottom line is that HP 'tunes' each Vivera inkset for the particular application. So, for example, print speed or plain paper gamut or gloss on photo media are the types of attributes we tune to

[HPDesignJet_Printers] Re: Vivera or NOT?

2005-08-16 Thread hjswim2
And here's the final word on this from HP (just received): ... can confirm they are not the same. The dye inks from the hp designjet 5000 and 5500 series have nothing to do with Vivera. Which means to me that someone goofed on that U.N. press release. Harald

Re: [HPDesignJet_Printers] Re: Vivera or NOT?

2005-08-15 Thread Bill G
Harald Hey Bill, I seem to be missing something here. Before I sent that last e-mail, I checked the HP site, looking at the pages related to the DJ5500 printer (printer pages + supplies pages), and I could not see any use of the word Vivera. Are you perhaps referring to another printer with

[HPDesignJet_Printers] Re: Vivera or NOT?

2005-08-15 Thread hjswim2
Not ;-) Hello again Bill! Does the 130 use Vivera inks? Yes. Now it's yes? Always has been. It's just that they weren't called Vivera Inks until they started using the term Vivera. Before that, it was durable dye inks or just dye inks. They were inks in search of a name! At this HP site,

Re: [HPDesignJet_Printers] Re: Vivera or NOT?

2005-08-14 Thread Bill G
Bill: Is the vivera issue resolved yet? I'm waiting for an official answer from HP on this, however lots of people there are on vacation so who knows when it will come. Harald, I am interested in your findings, and appreciate your list contribtutions Regarding the

[HPDesignJet_Printers] Re: Vivera or NOT?

2005-08-14 Thread hjswim2
Hey Bill, I seem to be missing something here. Before I sent that last e-mail, I checked the HP site, looking at the pages related to the DJ5500 printer (printer pages + supplies pages), and I could not see any use of the word Vivera. Are you perhaps referring to another printer with a similar

Re: [HPDesignJet_Printers] Re: Vivera or NOT?

2005-08-14 Thread SOzcomert
I thought the Hahnemuhle was more like 30 years under glass for the H130, but I could be wrong. My guess is that with HP the left hand does not know what the right hand is doing and that the only explanation for the longer permanency ratings for the 5500 is due to the pigment ink option

[HPDesignJet_Printers] Re: Vivera Inks in DJ30?

2005-08-10 Thread William Guttman
--- In HPDesignJet_Printers@yahoogroups.com, walt9z [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great. HP's own tech support people don't know about their own products. So how do you explain the different print longevity ratings by Wilhelm? Do the consumer printers lay down more ink? Do they use more

Re: [HPDesignJet_Printers] Re: Vivera Inks in DJ30?

2005-08-09 Thread SOzcomert
Harald, I do not disagree with what you have written, but how then do you explain the difference in longevity in the testing on the Wilhelm site between the 8750 and the DJ 130? I know the differences are not huge, but 20% or so is indicative of a difference in formulation whether under

[HPDesignJet_Printers] Re: Vivera Inks in DJ30?

2005-08-08 Thread hjswim2
me: The #84 and 85 ink carts *are* Vivera Inks. Vivera is a marketing term that was initiated a couple of months ago. They used to just be called durable dye inks or nothing except the HP number. FYI: all three printers (DJ 130/90/30) use the same Vivera inks. walt9z writes: Here's a question

[HPDesignJet_Printers] Re: Vivera Inks in DJ30?

2005-06-22 Thread hjswim2
Dean: I expecting my new Designjet 30 to arrive this week and was wondering if the new Vivera inks can be used in the printer. Since it uses the 84 and 85 cartridges, I assume the Vivera inks will fit too. Are there any problems using them in the 30, like clogged heads or anything? The #84 and