Re: [I18n]Unicode coverage for languages

2002-07-10 Thread Keith Packard
Around 13 o'clock on Jul 10, Anthony Fok wrote: I have been wondering: would OpenType technology be able to help solve this issue, since OpenType allows multiple glyphs (for different target language) for each character? Not any better than the OS/2 codePageRange bits that we already have;

Re: [Fonts] [I18n] language tags in fontconfig

2002-07-10 Thread Patrice Hd
Hi, [As a disclaimer, I have only followed this discussion from afar, and my reply may actually be off-topic. If this is the case, please disregard my post ! I'm just trying to advocate the importance of oe ligature here :) ] While I've never seen ñ in my limited exposure to French, I don't

Re: [I18n]Unicode coverage for languages

2002-07-10 Thread Anthony Fok
On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 11:06:46PM -0700, Keith Packard wrote: Around 13 o'clock on Jul 10, Anthony Fok wrote: I have been wondering: would OpenType technology be able to help solve this issue, since OpenType allows multiple glyphs (for different target language) for each character?

Re: [I18n]Unicode coverage for languages

2002-07-10 Thread Anthony Fok
On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 11:00:58PM -0700, Keith Packard wrote: Around 13 o'clock on Jul 10, Anthony Fok wrote: Just to clarify the current situation: while the GB18030 encoding covers the entire Unicode codepoints, the current GB18030 standard does not mandate or specify any characters

Re: [Fonts]Re: [I18n]Using current locale in font selection

2002-07-10 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 06:09:01PM -0700, Keith Packard wrote: Around 18 o'clock on Jul 9, Jungshik Shin wrote: a) call setlocal (LC_ALL, ) myself? I'm afraid this can have an unexpected side effect, which could surprise/upset some application program developers.

Re: [Fonts]Re: [I18n]Using current locale in font selection

2002-07-10 Thread Owen Taylor
Keith Packard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Agreed; this choice was somewhat rhetorical in nature... b) use $LANG or $LC_CTYPE? If this road is taken, it has to be determined which env. variables have to be refered to in what order. AFAIK, SUS and POSIX say that it's

[I18n]Re: POSIX:2001 freely available, STIX Fonts

2002-07-10 Thread Markus Kuhn
Keith Packard wrote on 2002-07-10 01:09 UTC: AFAIK, SUS and POSIX say that it's implementation-dependent. Too bad the POSIX spec is closed so I can't check. For all of you who haven't heard yet, SUS3 and POSIX:2001 are now the same thing and are freely available online on

Re: [Fonts]Re: [I18n]Using current locale in font selection

2002-07-10 Thread Jungshik Shin
On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Marius Gedminas wrote: On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 06:09:01PM -0700, Keith Packard wrote: Around 18 o'clock on Jul 9, Jungshik Shin wrote: b) use $LANG or $LC_CTYPE? If this road is taken, it has to be determined which env. variables have to be

Re: [Fonts] [I18n] language tags in fontconfig

2002-07-10 Thread Keith Packard
Around 21 o'clock on Jul 8, Patrice =?ISO-8859-15?B?SOlk6Q==?= wrote: not requiring the ? to be included in default font selection would lead people that don't particularly configure their font selection mechanism to be unable to read properly written French texts. It's important to

Re: [Fonts]Re: [I18n]Using current locale in font selection

2002-07-10 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 01:55:34PM -0400, Jungshik Shin wrote: POSIX fixes the order to LC_ALL, then LC_CTYPE, then LANG. Could you quote the part of SUS3/POSIX where this rule is fixed as you wrote. http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007904975/basedefs/xbd_chap08.html: The values

Re: [Fonts]Re: [I18n]Using current locale in font selection

2002-07-10 Thread Keith Packard
Around 4 o'clock on Jul 10, Owen Taylor wrote: As far as the question at hand; I think that giving up and using a default value or no value is fine if setlocale() hasn't been called. But I don't see any problems with checking LC_ALL/LC_CTYPE/LANG... it might be a nice touch. Given that

Re: [Fonts]Re: [I18n]Unicode coverage for languages

2002-07-10 Thread Brian Stell
Yao Zhang wrote: ... The only way to find out which Han variant one font has is by looking at it. When you say looking at it do you mean actually having a human view the glyphs? As long as we can configure it properly, zh_CN, zh_HK and zh_TW etc really do not matter. What do you