Re: [IAEP] shape 31

2009-09-19 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Saturday 19 Sep 2009 8:27:45 am Bill Kerr wrote: http://billkerr2.blogspot.com/2009/09/shape-31.htmlSo, I realised this was a nice challenge in real maths and understanding of the application of variables, measurement, ratio, proportion and fractions I see this as a good example of where

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] SoaS: Searching for Decision Panel volunteers.

2009-09-19 Thread Faisal Khan
I am interested in the outcome and future direction of SoaS distribution, as this will serve as input to the future development of OLPC in Bangladesh. I have not formulated a view yet, as would like to hear both sides. I do not have extensive knowledge of the technical aspects, however, would

Re: [IAEP] SoaS: Searching for Decision Panel volunteers.

2009-09-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 22:27, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: Hi all, Sebastian Dziallas has asked for clarity on how the SoaS distribution he maintains is going to be treated and considered by SL.  It doesn't seem that there's consensus, so we suggest forming a Decision Panel:   On the

Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] which Sugar(s) will/should run on XO's? [was: Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 11, Issue 94]

2009-09-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi Tabitha, your offer is well noted and I'll suggest soon specific areas that I think will be interested to test and hear the thoughts from your team. About the particular effort of pushing forward one more stable release for the XO-1, I strongly think we need a single individual that will lead

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SLOBs Position on SoaS

2009-09-19 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
I /really, really dislike/ this setting that replies only to the one sender... :-) Yamandu Ploskonka wrote: sugaronastick.com is Caroline Meeks, so I believe we are OK there as to the .org, it would be a certain Peter Robinson (?) Anyway, while marketing might be a Good Thing when our hearts

Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] which Sugar(s) will/should run on XO's? [was: Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 11, Issue 94]

2009-09-19 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
It's hard for me to understand why we are dropping so fast support for the XO-1. It is not logical, does not make sense to drop the biggest user base Sugar has, except when we account for human feelings of pain and betrayal that accompany the lore involving OLPC and such. While Sugar, as-is,

Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] which Sugar(s) will/should run on XO's? [was: Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 11, Issue 94]

2009-09-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 16:25, Yamandu Ploskonka yamap...@gmail.com wrote: It's hard for me to understand why we are dropping so fast support for the XO-1. I'm not sure why you say that, who is dropping support for the XO-1? I'm just pointing out that we need help coordinating the effort of

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SLOBs Position on SoaS

2009-09-19 Thread Sean DALY
I'm sorry, I couldn't disagree more. The public has no idea what Sugar is. Believe me, without marketing, that won't change. We're just at the beginning, and for now paying marketing expenses out of pocket. The Sugar on a Stick name and what it means wouldn't matter so much if: a) GNU/Linux

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SLOBs Position on SoaS

2009-09-19 Thread Sean DALY
I'm sorry, I couldn't disagree more. The public has no idea what Sugar is. Believe me, without marketing, that won't change. We're just at the beginning, and for now paying marketing expenses out of pocket. The Sugar on a Stick name and what it means wouldn't matter so much if: a) GNU/Linux

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SLOBs Position on SoaS

2009-09-19 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
I am all for Sugar Labs protecting, owning and bestowing the SOaS monickers, and for full recognition to Sebastian's work (and other's within the Fedora one, and the other options). Who will pay? hmm, problem Yama Sean DALY wrote: I'm sorry, I couldn't disagree more. The public has no idea

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SLOBs Position on SoaS

2009-09-19 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, I am all for Sugar Labs protecting, owning and bestowing the SOaS monickers, and for full recognition to Sebastian's work (and other's within the Fedora one, and the other options). Who will pay? I don't think anyone needs to pay anything. If we announced that the SL policy

[IAEP] Walter's essay up on Groklaw yesterday, our press release carried by LWN + Register article

2009-09-19 Thread Sean DALY
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20090918110925298 http://lwn.net/Articles/353419/ http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2009/09/18/windows_seven_sins_ngos/ Also note that from yesterday morning on, the top Google News result for Software Freedom Day has been Reuters' reprint of our press

[IAEP] Mailing list consensus techniques.

2009-09-19 Thread David Farning
There are several passionate threads happening on various SL mailing lists. As we push through these discussion I would like remind participants about a couple of tactics I have learned for successfully building a consensus on a mailing list. 1. Never take (or make) it personal. Passion is

[IAEP] Glucose 0.84 and 0.85 packaged for Debian!

2009-09-19 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi all, As subject says, Glucose (and some of Fructose) 0.84.0 and 0.85.7 is now packaged for Debian! More info at http://wiki.debian.org/Sugar and http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Debian . - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45

Re: [IAEP] Glucose 0.84 and 0.85 packaged for Debian!

2009-09-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 00:32, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: Hi all, As subject says, Glucose (and some of Fructose) 0.84.0 and 0.85.7 is now packaged for Debian! More info at http://wiki.debian.org/Sugar and http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Debian . Wow,

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 18, Issue 61

2009-09-19 Thread Caroline Meeks
ah, I haven't tried a multi-port hub with the Windows LiveUSB creator. To burn 8 at a time did you open 8 instances of the LiveUSB creator? Could you do a video? I know it sounds trivial but I think for a teacher its not trivial and a little 2 minute video where you show how you did it might give

Re: [IAEP] [Debian-olpc-devel] Glucose 0.84 and 0.85 packaged for Debian!

2009-09-19 Thread David Farning
I tried them out briefly in a VM this morning, worked great. A couple of questions. I don't understand the debian work flow. I see that you are carrying .82, .84, and .85. Will you continue to carry all of them going forward? Do you have a recommended work flow for basing downstream packages

Re: [IAEP] [Debian-olpc-devel] Glucose 0.84 and 0.85 packaged for Debian!

2009-09-19 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi David - and everyone else, [please don't cross-post: respond only to OLPC list as requested] On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 06:49:00PM -0500, David Farning wrote: I tried them out briefly in a VM this morning, worked great. Wauw, you are quick! Good to hear that that at least initial tests work.

Re: [IAEP] [Debian-olpc-devel] Glucose 0.84 and 0.85 packaged for Debian!

2009-09-19 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 12:43:25AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 00:32, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: As subject says, Glucose (and some of Fructose) 0.84.0 and 0.85.7 is now packaged for Debian! More info at http://wiki.debian.org/Sugar and