Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening, August 6/7?

2016-07-17 Thread Dave Crossland
On Jul 17, 2016 8:34 AM, "Walter Bender" wrote: > > August 6/7 could prob. work for me. Who else would be available in Boston that weekend? ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [IAEP] ASLO

2016-07-17 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Sebastian! On 17 July 2016 at 03:14, Sebastian Silva <sebast...@fuentelibre.org> wrote: > El 15/07/16 a las 07:37, Dave Crossland escribió: > > Alright! Back to this whole Sugar Network thing that I feel like I don't > totally understand :) I have some immediate practical qu

Re: [IAEP] ASLO

2016-07-15 Thread Dave Crossland
On 15 July 2016 at 08:43, Tony Anderson wrote: > A lot of questions. I believe Sebastian Silva would be your best source. > Sure! My email is in reply to his, and I expect he will answer these questions on this list when he has time? :)

Re: [IAEP] ASLO

2016-07-15 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 15 July 2016 at 04:29, Tony Anderson wrote: > This proposal needs some details. > I agree > ASLO supported many functions including the developer hub, authentication, > and so on. A simple static site that is functionally equivalent is > ambiguous. > Yes. Since

Re: [IAEP] ASLO

2016-07-15 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi! On 15 July 2016 at 00:14, Sebastian Silva wrote: > > I am proposing a simple static site that hosts xo bundles, that is > > functionally equivalent to the php5 codebase. > > Aleksey had proposed this: > http://school-network.org/hub/?view=Catalog=activity=featured

Re: [IAEP] Priority languages to translate Sugar

2016-07-15 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On Jul 15, 2016 7:31 AM, "José Miguel García" wrote: > > Hola! > Estoy de acuerdo con Caryl de fortalecer Sugarizer. > Es importante avanzar en función de las disponibilidades de los despliegues, para poder fortalecer a Sugar > A modo de ejemplo, en Uruguay se están

Re: [IAEP] ASLO

2016-07-14 Thread Dave Crossland
On 14 July 2016 at 13:13, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: > The build utilities for XO laptops hook into ASLO to download applications. > Cool! > Some sort of backward compatible API should be made for that. > Sure. Where is the API documented?

Re: [IAEP] ASLO

2016-07-14 Thread Dave Crossland
On 14 July 2016 at 14:22, Tony Anderson wrote: > The obvious question is why? What functionality do we add for our users by > rewriting everything in Python 3? > The functionality of being able to run the software, because the underlying Python 2 packages are going away.

Re: [IAEP] ASLO

2016-07-14 Thread Dave Crossland
On Jul 14, 2016 12:26 PM, "Tony Anderson" wrote: > > The problem is ASLO, our primary interface and support for our user community. > > If we are going the github route, we need to set up a means for updated versions of Activities to be made into bundles and installed on

Re: [IAEP] ASLO

2016-07-14 Thread Dave Crossland
On Jul 14, 2016 8:15 AM, "Sam Parkinson" <sam.parkins...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 10:01 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: >> >> >> On 14 July 2016 at 07:13, Sam Parkinson <sam.parkins...@gmail.com> w

Re: [IAEP] ASLO

2016-07-14 Thread Dave Crossland
On 14 July 2016 at 07:13, Sam Parkinson wrote: > What do you mean? ASLO is based on very old technology, which is going to > get broken. > > 10/10 would love to improve ASLO. I actually did an "ASLO2" effort a > while ago, although that failed for reasons that are

[IAEP] Wiki Gardening, August 6/7?

2016-07-13 Thread Dave Crossland
In thread "[IAEP] Sugar Digest [2016-05-25]" on 25 May 2016 at 09:42, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote: > > 7. Dave Crossland lead a team of volunteers on a weekend wiki gardening > adventure. While there is still more work to be done, we managed to prune

Re: [IAEP] [OLPC-SF] OLPC-SF July meeting this Saturday

2016-07-11 Thread Dave Crossland
On Jul 11, 2016 8:26 PM, "Sameer Verma" <sve...@sfsu.edu> wrote: > > > On Jul 11, 2016 3:48 PM, "Dave Crossland" <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 11 July 2016 at 14:20, Sameer Verma <sve...@sfsu.edu> wrote: >

Re: [IAEP] [OLPC-SF] OLPC-SF July meeting this Saturday

2016-07-11 Thread Dave Crossland
On 11 July 2016 at 14:20, Sameer Verma wrote: > No minutes taken. Our usual note taker is out. so is the back up. > Plus, our meetings are more informal than most (although we do > document) and the process was more conversational. Okay cool, no worries :) > The good news is

Re: [IAEP] SOAS Page?

2016-07-11 Thread Dave Crossland
Thanks you Sean and Martin! :) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] Britain to help 175,000 girls in world’s poorest countries get an education

2016-07-10 Thread Dave Crossland
On 10 July 2016 at 14:54, Sean DALY wrote: > > https://www.gov.uk/government/news/britain-to-help-175000-girls-in-worlds-poorest-countries-get-an-education > > The Department for International Development (DFID) will provide £100 > million through the Girls’ Education

Re: [IAEP] [OLPC-SF] OLPC-SF July meeting this Saturday

2016-07-10 Thread Dave Crossland
On 6 July 2016 at 11:17, Aaron D Borden wrote: > Agenda > - Meet and greet > - Vision, mission, and goals > - Summit planning > - Project updates > Were any minutes taken? If not, I'm curious to hear more about the Vision/mission/goals discussion and if the statement was

Re: [IAEP] Private emails (was Re: Save as)

2016-07-10 Thread Dave Crossland
On Jul 10, 2016 1:44 PM, "Tony Anderson" <tony_ander...@usa.net> wrote: > > Recently it has become the 'public' alternative to the SLOBs list. Sure, I dont see any trouble in this. What harm do you see? What alternative do you suggest? :) > > Tony > > > O

[IAEP] SOAS Page?

2016-07-10 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Who is responsible for the text and illustrations on https://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/ ? :) -- Cheers Dave ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] Private emails (was Re: Save as)

2016-07-10 Thread Dave Crossland
On 10 July 2016 at 13:26, Tony Anderson wrote: > Where is our list regarding the educational goals of Sugar? > Threads regarding the educational goals of Sugar are not to do with software development technicalities so therefore happen on this list in addition to all other

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Tony's comments on localization

2016-07-10 Thread Dave Crossland
On 10 July 2016 at 12:16, Nick Doiron wrote: > Your primary issue would be getting a Cherokee font (including recent > Unicode addition of lower-case letters) to work on the laptop. > Google Noto solves this :) ___ IAEP -- It's An

Re: [IAEP] Private emails (was Re: Save as)

2016-07-10 Thread Dave Crossland
On Jul 10, 2016 11:54 AM, "Tony Anderson" wrote: > > However, since the various flaps concerning the Oversight Board, it is very > hard to find a discussion in IAEP that has any connection to education. My understanding is that this list is for threads not to do with

Re: [IAEP] Private emails (was Re: Save as)

2016-07-10 Thread Dave Crossland
ce to fill the lists with email. However, since the various flaps concerning the Oversight Board, it is very > hard to find a discussion in IAEP that has any connection to education. I am sure you also are getting multiple emails from Dave Crossland - often I get as many as four copies.

Re: [IAEP] North American native languages (was Re: #Documentation SL Funding Committe)

2016-07-09 Thread Dave Crossland
On Jul 9, 2016 1:30 PM, "Caryl Bigenho" wrote: > > I have contacted people from the Crow here in MT and Objibway in another state. You have to deal with the Tribal Councils and they are really to busy to deal with things like this. > > As I said before, to be successful in

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion to adopt the 2016 vision for Sugar Labs

2016-07-09 Thread Dave Crossland
On 9 July 2016 at 01:57, Laura Vargas wrote: > In the meanwhile, I'm working on the 100 grant and will be > needing a mission definition, so I guess what is published at the > Conservancy Web as SL's mission is what we currently have. I am under the impression that

[IAEP] Fwd: [OLPC-SF] Fwd: Please Help Support OLPC

2016-07-09 Thread Dave Crossland
Interesting :) -- Forwarded message -- From: Aaron D Borden Date: 9 July 2016 at 04:04 Subject: [OLPC-SF] Fwd: Please Help Support OLPC To: olpc...@lists.laptop.org Some activity from OLPC. They're running a fundraiser!

Re: [IAEP] [OLPC-SF] OLPC-SF July meeting this Saturday

2016-07-09 Thread Dave Crossland
On 6 July 2016 at 11:31, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > > Will it be possible to join remotely? > I offer the suggestion that if someone is there with a laptop and wifi or an Android phone, they can open a Google Hangout on Air and post the l

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion to adopt the 2016 vision for Sugar Labs

2016-07-08 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Laura On Jul 8, 2016 7:50 PM, "Laura Vargas" wrote: > > FWIW Sugar Labs is described at http://sfconservancy.org/members/current/ as follows: > > Sugar is a learning platform that reinvents how computers are used for education. Sugar's focus on sharing, criticism, and

Re: [IAEP] #Documentation SL Funding Committe

2016-07-07 Thread Dave Crossland
On 7 July 2016 at 08:49, José Miguel García wrote: > Sin embargo, a través de la experiencia de Argentina en Conectar Igualdad, > donde se daba la posibilidad de que cada centro instalara su sistema. Wow, that's amazing!! :D I guess in the USA it is common to create

Re: [IAEP] #Documentation SL Funding Committe

2016-07-07 Thread Dave Crossland
2016-07-07 7:45 GMT-04:00 José Miguel García : > Sostenemos, sin embargo, que si los dispositivos hubieran contado con > Windows, el SO más conocido, su uso habría sido para seguir haciendo más de > lo mismo. I think that is great :) However, it seems possible only

Re: [IAEP] #Documentation SL Funding Committe

2016-07-06 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Caryl On 6 July 2016 at 20:12, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > Actually, > (I am also grateful for Sameer and José Miguel's input, but unlike Adam and Tony who I mentioned, they are not participating here very much which is why I didn't mention them.) I understand that you

Re: [IAEP] #Documentation SL Funding Committe

2016-07-06 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Thanks Caryl, this is all very informative and I'm glad you are here to explain this context :) On 6 July 2016 at 17:18, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > Teacher training and "buy-in" is essential for Sugar/Sugarizer to succeed > no matter what platform, language, or country

Re: [IAEP] [OLPC-SF] OLPC-SF July meeting this Saturday

2016-07-06 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Aaron Will it be possible to join remotely? I'm keen on the vision/mission/goals discussions, and also about the XO-1 palette being delivered to OLPC-SF soon :) On 6 July 2016 at 11:17, Aaron D Borden wrote: > Hello folks, > > OLPC San Francisco will be hosting our

Re: [IAEP] Which cheap 2016 Laptop should be our reference?

2016-07-05 Thread Dave Crossland
On 22 June 2016 at 08:40, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > There are 2 obvious candidates to me, the new "olpc laptop" available from > olpc inc to USA resident individuals for us$200 plus us$100 shipping from > china, with other countries shipping fees varyi

Re: [IAEP] [UKids] "Physics with XO" by Guzmán Trinidad now available in English

2016-07-04 Thread Dave Crossland
On 4 July 2016 at 10:34, Tony Anderson wrote: > You might take a look at > "http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Sdenka_Salas_-_The_XO_Laptop_in_the_Classroom; > > The PDF on this page is removed, but I found

Re: [IAEP] [UKids] "Physics with XO" by Guzmán Trinidad now available in English

2016-07-04 Thread Dave Crossland
On 4 July 2016 at 02:16, Sebastian Silva wrote: > Our team would like to share with the community the immediate availability > [1] of > Guzmán Trinidad's "Physics with XO". It is a book that includes 30 >

Re: [IAEP] TurtleArtDay.org domain transfer + new site

2016-07-03 Thread Dave Crossland
On Jul 3, 2016 3:47 PM, "Laura Vargas" <la...@somosazucar.org> wrote: > > > > 2016-07-03 7:18 GMT+08:00 Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com>: >> >> >> On 2 July 2016 at 17:29, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: >>> >>

Re: [IAEP] TurtleArtDay.org domain transfer + new site

2016-07-02 Thread Dave Crossland
On 2 July 2016 at 17:29, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > A. I offer to port the existing website to > https://github.com/sugarlabs/turtleartday.org > I completed a first pass, porting the existing content and then editing it. You can see a preview here: https://suga

Re: [IAEP] A Better Idea...

2016-07-02 Thread Dave Crossland
On 27 June 2016 at 08:44, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > On 7 June 2016 at 20:15, Laura Vargas <la...@somosazucar.org> wrote: > > Looks like we are getting the hang of it! We as a Committe should > schedule a > > weekly meeting to live chat with impo

[IAEP] TurtleArtDay.org domain transfer + new site

2016-07-02 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi With the turtle art day announcements at the board meeting yesterday, I guess that transferring the domain to Conservancy and rebooting the website is due soon. Claudia registered turtleartday.org on http://www.godaddy.com while sugarlabs.org is registered by Conservancy on

Re: [IAEP] July Meeting of the Board

2016-07-02 Thread Dave Crossland
On 2 July 2016 at 13:33, Tony Anderson wrote: > Perhaps you need to be more careful in your comments. 'I have heard this > before' sounds like distrust. > I do not trust the board's processes to reliably produce the outcomes the board members say they are pursuing. You

Re: [IAEP] July Meeting of the Board

2016-07-02 Thread Dave Crossland
On 2 July 2016 at 05:00, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net> wrote: > I hope this allays Dave Crossland and other member's mistrust of the > Board. Its not that I mistrust the board or think things are being done 'behind members backs.' Its that I see the board's processes as d

Re: [IAEP] [SLOB] minutes from 3 June 2016 oversight board meeting

2016-07-01 Thread Dave Crossland
On Jun 3, 2016 6:19 PM, "Walter Bender" wrote: > > I am certain to yet again be accused of making an ad hominem attack, but I have to say that I was extremely disappointed in the lack of preparedness for this meeting. Several community members had been working on motions,

Re: [IAEP] Simplified Motion to create and define the position of Sugar Labs Finance Manager

2016-07-01 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Congratulations to Caryl and Adam for finally getting the Finance Manager position approved! :) Hooray!! :D On 1 July 2016 at 14:10, Adam Holt wrote: > PS this is very hard work (and I am not yet sure how to determine SL's exact > balance on April 1st 2016) but an early

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [Sugar-devel] A Better Idea...

2016-07-01 Thread Dave Crossland
On 1 July 2016 at 07:06, Tony Anderson wrote: > > We got it. In the future, we will take greater care to cross-post votes by > email (hopefully rare since the meeting itself is public). I've heard that before, and this seems proven sure to fail. But I don't think I can

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [Sugar-devel] A Better Idea...

2016-07-01 Thread Dave Crossland
On 1 July 2016 at 05:45, Tony Anderson wrote: > > You need to distinguish between encouraging members to propose actions to be > taken by the Board and a motion made at a Board meeting by a member of the > Board, seconded and put to a vote of the Board members. I got it :)

Re: [IAEP] Voting on GPLv3 motion

2016-06-30 Thread Dave Crossland
On 1 July 2016 at 01:32, Tony Anderson wrote: > This is what I have been able to find regarding the GPLv3 motion. AWESOME! Thanks for posting these - I will update the Decision page with links to your emails and these results soon :)

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [Sugar-devel] A Better Idea...

2016-06-30 Thread Dave Crossland
sazucar.org domain renewal ($) To: Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com>, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> Cc: systems <syst...@lists.sugarlabs.org>, "OLPC para usuarios, docentes, voluntarios y administradores" <olpc-...@lists.laptop.org>, SLOBs <sl...@lists.su

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] A Better Idea...

2016-06-30 Thread Dave Crossland
On 30 June 2016 at 17:01, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > Come on Dave! I trust the board members. If any of them were opposed > I'm sure we would know about it by now. Let them do the job they were elected > to do. You are welcome to volunteer as the board's secretary, the job

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] A Better Idea...

2016-06-30 Thread Dave Crossland
On 30 June 2016 at 18:06, Tony Anderson wrote: > Why can you not accept that some of the votes were not made to the IAEP > mailing list in error. You are opposing addressing this error but without explaining why. Please explain

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] A Better Idea...

2016-06-30 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 21 June 2016 at 23:00, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > The reason I am feeling frustration is that Adam, a board member, > asked me to administer the board's record of decisions on the wiki, > and my effort to do so has been fettered: reports of motion outcomes

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] A Better Idea...

2016-06-30 Thread Dave Crossland
nity Manager (See http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2016-May/052588.html) AGREED MOTION 2016-13 Dave Crossland: To update the Sugar License from GPLv2 to GPLv3 (http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2016-May/052588.html) ___

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 99, Issue 115

2016-06-30 Thread Dave Crossland
On 30 June 2016 at 12:07, Tony Anderson wrote: > I posted no motion on June 4. > ... > Making a comment is not a motion. My apologies; you drafted it and I posted it in thread "Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive." and it was not seconded. > According to standard

Re: [IAEP] Simplified Version of A & B for Tomorrow's Meeting

2016-06-30 Thread Dave Crossland
On 30 June 2016 at 10:57, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > > P.S. Re clause #2: there may be times when the financial data from the SFC > is not available at a meeting. The first item in the clause allows for > making updates and corrections from the previous meeting's data if it >

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOB] meeting reminder

2016-06-30 Thread Dave Crossland
he 'prominent placement' and 'release codename' are not acceptable without > clarification. Cool, when I get there I'll let the community know > According to Dave Crossland, Caryl Bigenho wants the motion on the Financial > Manager to be on the agenda. Has she withdrawn her prop

[IAEP] Motion: To append to existing bylaw for Finance Manager new procedures

2016-06-30 Thread Dave Crossland
Motion: To append to existing bylaw for Finance Manager new procedures for requesting, obtaining, and reporting use of Sugar Labs funds. All monetary distributions must be requested from Conservancy by the appointed Finance Manager according to the following guidelines: Expenses: - Expenses

[IAEP] Motion: To replace existing bylaw for Finance Manager

2016-06-30 Thread Dave Crossland
Motion: To replace existing bylaw for Finance Manager from: The Finance Manager is an ex officio, non-voting officer taking care of Sugar Labs' Finance. Currently, this position is vacant. To: The Finance Manager shall be appointed by a majority vote of the Sugar Labs Oversight Board (SLOB) and

[IAEP] Status of Samson's project

2016-06-28 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi I'd like to request a brief update report on the status of Samson's project; its been about 6 weeks since the motion to fund the project was passed, but I haven't heard anything about it as I expected to -- Cheers Dave ___ IAEP -- It's An

Re: [IAEP] Sugarlabs and Sugar are different

2016-06-28 Thread Dave Crossland
On 28 June 2016 at 07:36, Sebastian Silva wrote: > Actually, please do. It's exactly what IAEP is for. > > Shivang, if you don't care about Sugar Labs strategy discussions, > please either unsubscribe or ignore these threads. Well no, to be fair to Shivang, I was

Re: [IAEP] Sugarlabs and Sugar are different

2016-06-27 Thread Dave Crossland
Happy to help with the form design Since production is voluntary I can only meet it where it is and attenot to grow it :) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] Sugarlabs and Sugar are different

2016-06-27 Thread Dave Crossland
Attempt ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] Oversight Board Meeting

2016-06-27 Thread Dave Crossland
On 27 June 2016 at 09:28, Tony Anderson wrote: > Based on the level of discussion in the email lists, there is apparently no > longer any interest in having a Financial Manager or a Vision statement as > topics for Friday's meeting. Sameer has said he will run some kind of

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] A Better Idea...

2016-06-27 Thread Dave Crossland
On 27 June 2016 at 09:24, Tony Anderson wrote: > If it is useful. It surely is > Why do you care for specific emails for specific votes? Transparency > Do you have any specific motions where there is concern about > whether it passed? Each motion where I can not

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] A Better Idea...

2016-06-27 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Tony On 21 June 2016 at 23:00, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > Please provide me with 7 links to 7 emails on a public mailing list > from 2016-05-05 to 2016-05-12 for each of the votes for this motion > that you say you are aware of. Would you be willing to do thi

Re: [IAEP] Translation Community Manager report

2016-06-27 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Chris On 5 June 2016 at 19:23, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > > On 5 June 2016 at 17:20, Chris Leonard <cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Most of the work I've done is not captured by this particular issue >> tracker and I see no re

Re: [IAEP] SLOBS Meeting

2016-06-27 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Adam On 17 June 2016 at 11:47, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > > On 17 June 2016 at 11:42, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net> wrote: >> >> I understand the need is to have a financial report at each monthly >> meeting reporting on starting b

Re: [IAEP] Sugarlabs and Sugar are different

2016-06-26 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Sameer, thanks for this! Please can I repost this on the youtube channel, https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfsR9AEb7HuPRAc14jfiI6g, with a CC-BY license ? :) Here's an auto transcription: https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Vision_proposal_2016/Call_2 On 24 June 2016 at 18:20, Sameer Verma

Re: [IAEP] Sugarlabs and Sugar are different

2016-06-26 Thread Dave Crossland
On 24 June 2016 at 22:28, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > On 24 June 2016 at 18:20, Sameer Verma wrote: >> >> It's been interesting to watch the conversations around vision, mission, >> marketing, etc. over the last few weeks. Several observations emerge. >> Here

Re: [IAEP] Sugarlabs and Sugar are different

2016-06-26 Thread Dave Crossland
On 26 June 2016 at 14:04, Chihurumnaya Ibiam wrote: > Hello Sameer, i couldn't watch the video because of the format (.webm), > except i am online, because of where i am i can't really watch the video > online, can i get a download link. > It was a download link :)

Re: [IAEP] Trinom.io / education

2016-06-23 Thread Dave Crossland
On 23 June 2016 at 19:56, Laura Vargas wrote: > > According to your logic if for example Microsoft hires Gonzalo, Microsoft > can claim the same? > > Sorry, but we don't agree on this one ;D What position in Trinomio does Gonzalo hold? If he held the same position in

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] The End of Sugar (thought exercise)

2016-06-23 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Sam On Jun 22, 2016 9:45 PM, "Samuel Greenfeld" wrote: > > Historically there have been several organizations financially supporting > Sugar development. > > But at least some of those have left, others have reduced their > contributions, and it is unclear to me if any

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Fwd: Google for Nonprofits Affiliation Request Sent

2016-06-23 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Sean On 23 June 2016 at 07:21, Sean DALY wrote: > OK Dave, you're the new Marketing Coordinator! The wiki page https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team had: 1 (617) 500-9610 [[Marketing Team/Phone]] is the new number that journalists can call for > quotes,

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

2016-06-23 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Sean I am absolutely certain that I have not seen a reply from you regarding the email below. If I have missed your reply, please send me a link to it on a web archive, or simply resend it as a reply to this email :) On 6 June 2016 at 10:22, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: >

Re: [IAEP] Trinom.io / education

2016-06-23 Thread Dave Crossland
On 23 June 2016 at 13:39, Laura Vargas wrote: > My point is that what this company say they do is what Sugar Labs does... I confused :) Lots of companies do this, though? I think this company can legitimately claim to have actively participated in the development of the

Re: [IAEP] Trinom.io / education

2016-06-23 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Laura Kindly I don't think that is how trademarks work. Afaik sugar itself isn't a trademark. If it was probably the sugar network and sugarizer would need to be licensed, but afaik they arent. This company doesn't represent itself as "Sugar Labs" which is a tm (and as other companies do,

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Fwd: Google for Nonprofits Affiliation Request Sent

2016-06-23 Thread Dave Crossland
I bow out and become just an interested observer. I > just don't have the time to explain marketing fundamentals and also develop > strategy and execution. > > thanks & good luck > > Sean > > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 6:41 AM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com>

Re: [IAEP] i don't recieve mail via IAEP

2016-06-23 Thread Dave Crossland
On Jun 23, 2016 7:19 AM, "samson goddy" wrote: > > I don't recieve messages on IAEP list. I tried subscribing, I guess it's not working too. Can some please check it out for me. Please reply to this email top conform receipt > > Samson Goddy > >

Re: [IAEP] Fwd: Google for Nonprofits Affiliation Request Sent

2016-06-22 Thread Dave Crossland
On 22 June 2016 at 12:21, Adam Holt wrote: > Is there strong consensus which people (multiple people, not a single > person) should manage this and all associated passwords + responsibilities? > With this "process/procedure/ownership" fully documented in a very public > place, so

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Fwd: Google for Nonprofits Affiliation Request Sent

2016-06-22 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Sean On 22 June 2016 at 15:37, Sean DALY wrote: > > We agree on using Google AdWords, but no work has been done on communication > strategy, and although I am thrilled there is interest in marketing, I am > also very concerned that more emphasis seems to be on the media

Re: [IAEP] Which cheap 2016 Laptop should be our reference?

2016-06-22 Thread Dave Crossland
On Jun 22, 2016 7:11 PM, "Samuel Greenfeld" wrote: > > I am going to take the unpopular stance here and say if all you are willing to support is a computer which requires no binary blobs, you are going to support no computer at all. If being fully free is a goal - which I

Re: [IAEP] Which cheap 2016 Laptop should be our reference?

2016-06-22 Thread Dave Crossland
What laptop do you use Jonas? ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] Fwd: Google for Nonprofits Affiliation Request Sent

2016-06-22 Thread Dave Crossland
On Jun 22, 2016 11:47 AM, "Dave Crossland" <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > > On 8 June 2016 at 06:32, Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I'm confused, I thought Adam was going to liaise with SFC on that? > > > > We can't take over their account. > &

Re: [IAEP] Fwd: Google for Nonprofits Affiliation Request Sent

2016-06-22 Thread Dave Crossland
On Jun 22, 2016 12:21 PM, "Adam Holt" <h...@laptop.org> wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: >> >> On 8 June 2016 at 06:32, Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > I'm confused, I thought Adam w

Re: [IAEP] Which cheap 2016 Laptop should be our reference?

2016-06-22 Thread Dave Crossland
On 22 June 2016 at 10:30, Sean DALY wrote: > Around the time RPi hit the million unit mark I floated the idea of a > Sugar-branded enclosure for it, distributed through the RPi partner network. I've added this idea to https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/2016_Goals and encourage

Re: [IAEP] Fwd: Google for Nonprofits Affiliation Request Sent

2016-06-22 Thread Dave Crossland
On 8 June 2016 at 06:32, Sean DALY wrote: > I'm confused, I thought Adam was going to liaise with SFC on that? > > We can't take over their account. Its not about taking over the account, its about getting additional admin access in order to set up Sugar Labs's adwords

Re: [IAEP] Which cheap 2016 Laptop should be our reference?

2016-06-22 Thread Dave Crossland
On 22 June 2016 at 10:33, Walter Bender wrote: > The problem at the time was that the Sugar experience on RPi was pretty > terrible. I suspect it is pretty decent on the newer models. Do we know? Very decent! :) Tony's remark was about the "Pi Zero" "$5" model. On the

[IAEP] Which cheap 2016 Laptop should be our reference?

2016-06-22 Thread Dave Crossland
On Jun 21, 2016 10:41 AM, "Walter Bender" wrote: > > soliciting a small donation of hardware from Google as a reference platform. Who do we know at google who could help with that? Despite google fonts being a client, I don't know anyone there who could help with this

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] A Better Idea...

2016-06-21 Thread Dave Crossland
On 21 June 2016 at 01:28, Tony Anderson wrote: > You still confuse me. Someone who is not on the Board cannot submit a motion > (email or otherwise) This is simply, factually, false. In http://www.mail-archive.com/iaep%40lists.sugarlabs.org/msg16403.html Walter notes that

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Oversight Board decisions page

2016-06-21 Thread Dave Crossland
On 21 June 2016 at 01:05, Laura Vargas wrote: > I confess I'm not motivated to propose any new Motions to current Board as > none has even made it to a meeting, none has get seconded and besides Tony, > until today, I have 0 feedback from all other SLOBs. I sympathise.

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: New monthly SLOB meeting procedure

2016-06-21 Thread Dave Crossland
On 21 June 2016 at 11:35, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > Walter is right. Ideas are good. Time coordination is difficult. The hour is > "precious." Motion B would help clear the logjam at meetings. That is why I > am proposing it I am happy you and Seb agree that clearing the

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: New monthly SLOB meeting procedure

2016-06-21 Thread Dave Crossland
On 21 June 2016 at 10:47, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 11:04 AM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: >> On 4 June 2016 at 11:38, Sebastian Silva <sebast...@fuentelibre.org> >> wrote: >>> El 03/06/16 a las 16:1

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to consider email votes on motions only valid if they are sent to both the SLOBs and IAEP mailing lists.

2016-06-21 Thread Dave Crossland
On 21 June 2016 at 11:56, Sean DALY wrote: > an agreed upon partnership placed under publication embargo. SL wouldn't > likely need to embargo, but a partner might wish to. This PR-smart approach > has been transformed by the Internet and social media these past few years, >

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to consider email votes on motions only valid if they are sent to both the SLOBs and IAEP mailing lists.

2016-06-21 Thread Dave Crossland
On 21 June 2016 at 11:41, Adam Holt wrote: > it's generally a legal/fiduciary responsibility of the Executive Director > (or similar) to consult privately with the Board in these kinds of > high-stakes situations -- keeping as many as possible apprised of > deliberations -- while

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to consider email votes on motions only valid if they are sent to both the SLOBs and IAEP mailing lists.

2016-06-21 Thread Dave Crossland
On 21 June 2016 at 10:49, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 11:04 AM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: >> On 7 June 2016 at 10:00, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: >>> >>> Motion: to consider email

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2016-06-21

2016-06-21 Thread Dave Crossland
Thanks for posting Walter! This is all good news :) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] another motion (Quispe trip to Translation Summit)

2016-06-20 Thread Dave Crossland
On 21 June 2016 at 00:38, Sebastian Silva wrote: > Then it got rejected because she is subscribed with a different address. Ah yes, I identified this problem with Claudia's email before. Since you are an IAEP list admin, please can you just fix it? :)

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Oversight Board decisions page

2016-06-20 Thread Dave Crossland
On 21 June 2016 at 00:41, Laura Vargas wrote: > I'm sorry I don't do this myself but could you please add the 3 motions I > proposed for the 04/01/16 SLOBs meeting regarding the creation of the Sugar > Project's Translation Fund? > >

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] another motion (Quispe trip to Translation Summit)

2016-06-20 Thread Dave Crossland
On 21 June 2016 at 00:32, Sebastian Silva wrote: > We did not get to see the email Dave is replying to. In the future please > remember to copy the list in your replies as we are very much interested in > your opinions. The mail from Claudia was sent to the lists:

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] another motion (Quispe trip to Translation Summit)

2016-06-20 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Claudia! On 20 June 2016 at 14:04, Claudia Urrea wrote: > > I think the wiki page summarizes the status of the motions, but we have to > find a way to link to the discussion or process. Should we number them? or > code them in a way that it helps the process? The

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion to update current SL vision statement

2016-06-20 Thread Dave Crossland
On 20 June 2016 at 14:11, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net> wrote: > On 20 June 2016 at 11:17, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > > On 20 June 2016 at 03:23, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net> wrote: > > > > > > I disagree completely w

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