Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SL member list/joining criterion

2016-05-14 Thread Dave Crossland
On May 14, 2016 10:26 PM, "Walter Bender" wrote: > > what is the harm in keeping them on the list? (Our membership list has never been well-correlated with the active contributors in any case.) The harm is two fold. Initially that the list says it is a list of active

Re: [IAEP] SL member list/joining criterion

2016-05-12 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Adam On 12 May 2016 at 15:33, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote: > On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> 1. A section of the doc is available live here, >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Mem

Re: [IAEP] SL member list/joining criterion

2016-05-12 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi 1. A section of the doc is available live here, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members/List 2. That doc shows 279 members I've requested access to the doc :) Thanks Samson! Cheers Dave ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOB] another motion (Quispe trip to Translation Summit)

2016-05-12 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi! On 12 May 2016 at 11:33, Chris Leonard wrote: > I would note that, as requested, Edgar provided a brief write-up of > the event afterwards (in Spanish), which I have > Google-assisted-translated and will be posting (in both Spanish and > English) on the blog that

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-12 Thread Dave Crossland
On 12 May 2016 at 11:09, Sean DALY wrote: > Sam - I'm not aware that anyone here is other than "us volunteers". > Well, there's now a paid Translatoins Manager ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-12 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 12 May 2016 at 10:51, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > Dues are a bad idea! > Sorry folks > Please could you explain why you think this? -- Cheers Dave ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] GSoC mentor stipend motion

2016-05-12 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 12 May 2016 at 09:42, Walter Bender wrote: > As Adam has pointed out, this motion has failed to pass. It seems that > there is some support of the idea of offering at least a portion of the > GSoC stipend to mentors who need/request the funds, but the form of the

Re: [IAEP] Fwd: [SLOB] GPLv3 motion

2016-05-12 Thread Dave Crossland
On 12 May 2016 at 09:19, Walter Bender wrote: > the motion has passed. Thanks Walter! ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-12 Thread Dave Crossland
On 11 May 2016 at 22:28, Sam Parkinson wrote: > Is a membership fee for volunteers even something that any other Free > Software orgs do? GNOME doesn't seem to. > Its very common for clubs/nonprofits to do this. FSF, Conservancy, TUG, UKTUG run membership programs,

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-11 Thread Dave Crossland
On 11 May 2016 at 14:05, Laura Vargas wrote: > there are ~US$65,000 available for planning/distributing among > activities/teams/projects etc. I think its essential that this be spent in ways that led directly to further income, to grow the project.

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] GSoC mentor stipend motion

2016-05-11 Thread Dave Crossland
On 11 May 2016 at 13:53, Adam Holt wrote: > Personally I'd be in favor of splitting $500 GSoC payments between > organization and mentors-in-need ($250 each) particularly those mentors in > low-income countries (of those most demonstrably catalyzed by a $250 > Honorarium) if

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-11 Thread Dave Crossland
On 11 May 2016 at 13:03, Laura Vargas wrote: > Sorry I missed to explain this. By the date of the agreement (2012), the > Project agreed that, on the Effective Date, $1,887.44 (10% of the existing > Project Fund on the Effective Date), will be donated to Conservancy’s >

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-11 Thread Dave Crossland
On 11 May 2016 at 12:50, Laura Vargas wrote: > You are totally right Adam, I'm sorry I did not notice these were > cumulative values. Corrected table would look like this: > > > > Total Income 10% of Total Income > > > > 2015 $9.028,56 $902,86 > 2014 $49.622,18 $4.962,22 >

Re: [IAEP] [SLOB] meeting summary (one of many)

2016-05-10 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Walter! Thanks for clarifying, that all makes good sense :) -- Cheers Dave ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] My agreed duties for Sugar Labs? :)

2016-05-10 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 10 May 2016 at 01:43, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote: > On May 10, 2016 12:06 AM, "Dave Crossland" <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Adam (and all) > > > > I remember that you asked me to do something after each board meeting, >

Re: [IAEP] [SLOB] meeting summary (one of many)

2016-05-10 Thread Dave Crossland
On 6 May 2016 at 17:11, Walter Bender wrote: > I will send a separate email for each motion discussed so that we can > vote by email. > I can only see 3 email threads, [IAEP] [SLOB] Finance Manager Motions [IAEP] [SLOB] Yoruba i18n motion [IAEP] [SLOB] GSoC mentor

Re: [IAEP] My agreed duties for Sugar Labs? :)

2016-05-10 Thread Dave Crossland
On 10 May 2016 at 10:12, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > >> Hi >> >> On 10 May 2016 at 01:43, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote: >> >>

Re: [IAEP] My agreed duties for Sugar Labs? :)

2016-05-10 Thread Dave Crossland
On 10 May 2016 at 01:43, Adam Holt wrote: > Likewise posting SFConservancy's travel/expense/reimbursement policies > (etc) publicly would be wonderful if someone can dig up copy, and post it > here: > > https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Finance#For_funding_travel > They are here,

Re: [IAEP] My agreed duties for Sugar Labs? :)

2016-05-10 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 10 May 2016 at 01:43, Adam Holt wrote: > posting recent motions that have passed here: (receiving 4 affirmative > votes, from SL Board members) > > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Decisions > Ah yes, in addition to posting the minutes/log, I think that was

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-05-09 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi! The wiki gardening weekend is coming up in a few days! Who would like to join myself, Walter and Bernie the weekend of May 14-15 in Boston? :) Iain, how is your slideshow coming along? :) For hosting Eli and I, I booked us a bunk each in the Boston Hotelling International hotel:

Re: [IAEP] [GSOC] Project: Journal Rethink discussion

2016-05-08 Thread Dave Crossland
So this is more like tagging blog posts than a folders-filesystem> ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] [GSOC] Project: Journal Rethink discussion

2016-05-08 Thread Dave Crossland
On 8 May 2016 at 06:14, wrote: > I think that the idea of providing a way of sorting learning into > "mini-journals" is very helpful. Users can make a mini-journal for a unit > of work in school, an assignment/project or a group activity that a teacher > is running. > Where is

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [Sugar-devel] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-07 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 7 May 2016 at 16:09, Lionel Laské <lionel.la...@gmail.com> wrote: > > 2016-05-07 22:06 GMT+02:00 Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com>: > >> Do you think having the motion as it is with $Y = 0 is ok? >> > > Yep. > Okay good :) Caryl, is your intention f

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [Sugar-devel] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-07 Thread Dave Crossland
Do you think having the motion as it is with $Y = 0 is ok? ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-07 Thread Dave Crossland
On 7 May 2016 at 11:47, Chris Leonard wrote: > > I'm looking for an executed copy of the current SugarLabs-SFC FSA to > > confirm, unfortunately the wiki version looks at variance with the > > template, but as a wiki page, it has no "official" status. > > > >

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-06 Thread Dave Crossland
ely for > missing one or both dutires twice, even if separated by 2 years? If so, we > need to spell it out. If conversely we want to fire the Financial Manager > immediately, for failing to fulfill 1 duty or the other, then we should say > that more explicitly. > > > > On Fr

Re: [IAEP] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-06 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 6 May 2016 at 10:35, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > I am hoping all the differences have been ironed out and that my motions > receive a majority vote. I just checked https://docs.google.com/document/d/16jIFuZ9bX-Bv675BpA1KmcEcRcX4PRCOUEX0ICRUkOc/edit and it still has a lot

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-05 Thread Dave Crossland
before it comes up for vote... Send an email to > this thread. > > Caryl > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 3, 2016, at 6:44 AM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > > > On 3 May 2016 at 09:37, Caryl Bigenho <cbige...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Why does t

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-03 Thread Dave Crossland
On 3 May 2016 at 09:37, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > Why does the vision statement say "but not phones"? I run Sugarizer on my > iPhone and Ed's Android phone. There are some formatting issues but they > are easily overcome. In the real world of developing countries, children >

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-05-02 Thread Dave Crossland
On 13 April 2016 at 10:48, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > Who would like to join myself, Walter and Bernie the weekend of May 14-15 > in Boston? :) > Eli Heuer (the other Font Editor GSOC Mentor) will join me on the trip up from NYC to Boston that weekend :) I just book

Re: [IAEP] 2015 SocialHelp Survey?

2016-05-02 Thread Dave Crossland
m.parkins...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi Dave, >> >> I'm no longer afk. I have collated the results into the attached >> spreedsheet. >> >> Previously, I also wrote up an analysis of the results. It is also >> attached. >> >> Thanks

[IAEP] List of good introductions to libre software culture?

2016-05-02 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi! I thought I'd share this website issue with the IEAP list, and ask you all if you know of any good introductions to libre software culture? :) https://github.com/sugarlabs/www-sugarlabs/issues/22 -- Cheers Dave ___ IAEP -- It's An Education

Re: [IAEP] laboratoriosazucar.org domain renewal ($)

2016-05-01 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi I'd like to submit a motions to SLOBs: 1. I propose SLOBs approve a motion to pay back the $34.34 cost of renewing for 2 years the laboratoriosazucar.org domain that will be made out of pocket by a member this month. (Sugar's most popular language of use is Spanish and having a spanish

Re: [IAEP] laboratoriosazucar.org domain renewal ($)

2016-05-01 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Sebastian! I'm happy that you noticed this expiration before the grace period ended! :) Since SL has a debit card to make such payments, ideally it would directly register all domains it covers. However, given the time pressure here, I will post a motion to SLOBs now to refund you once you've

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-04-29 Thread Dave Crossland
Sorry, I meant the GSOC motion, which Walter said was via private email https://docs.google.com/document/d/16jIFuZ9bX-Bv675BpA1KmcEcRcX4PRCOUEX0ICRUkOc/edit?usp=asogm is Caryl's ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-04-29 Thread Dave Crossland
On 29 April 2016 at 14:29, Laura Vargas wrote: > Could not see the proposal. Is there a public link? > I agree, all motions ought to be public :) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)

[IAEP] HP Enterprise "Living Progress Challenge"

2016-04-28 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi I wonder if anyone here has any connection to http://livingprogresschallenge.hpe.com ? :) -- Cheers Dave ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

[IAEP] What can be done to keep the XO DNA going?

2016-04-26 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi So, it seems that the most successful way to get Sugar into kids hands has been by selling XOs with it preinstalled so I figure that Sugar Labs ought to have a recommended or reference laptop, and currently that's seems to be the XO-4. But this seems like a bit of a dead end. While the

[IAEP] Please comment on my website structure proposal

2016-04-26 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi I'd be grateful for any comments on this website structure proposal :) https://github.com/davelab6/www-sugarlabs/blob/issue32-structure/STRUCTURE.md When signed into github you can make line by line comments here: https://github.com/sugarlabs/www-sugarlabs/pull/33/files -- Cheers Dave

[IAEP] Motion: Upgrade GPLv2 to GPLv3 in all sugarlabs source repos

2016-04-26 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi I'd like to propose to the Oversight Board that Sugar Labs offiically upgrade all sugarlabs source code repositories to GPLv3. The work to do this for Sugar itself has been done by Sebastian Silva, and a pull request is ready to mere - with some discussion in that PR:

Re: [IAEP] Is "Most Sugar Users Use XO Laptops" True?

2016-04-26 Thread Dave Crossland
2016-04-26 14:35 GMT-04:00 José Miguel García : > En diversas instancias internacionales que he tenido, los asistentes no > sabían de que trataba Sugar, y es difícil darlo a conocer si no tienen la > posibilidad sencilla de probarlo. Si... :) Gracias!!

Re: [IAEP] use of XOs

2016-04-25 Thread Dave Crossland
On 25 April 2016 at 13:42, Sebastian Silva wrote: > I love the word Workshop. In spanish it does > not carry the "training session" meaning as much as a place filled with > tools to work with (such as an artisan shop). > The closely English word is "studio"

Re: [IAEP] Is "Most Sugar Users Use XO Laptops" True?

2016-04-25 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi 2016-04-25 13:04 GMT-04:00 José Miguel García : > Depende del sistema operativo que tenga, pues varios prefieren windows... > Do you think they would use Sugar on Windows, if it was packaged into a 'one click' virtual machine? I also wonder about ways to make Sugar

Re: [IAEP] Is "Most Sugar Users Use XO Laptops" True?

2016-04-25 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi! THANK YOU!! This is great :D On 25 April 2016 at 08:41, José Miguel García wrote: > No todas las laptops de los docentes tienen Sugar, por lo que lo utilizan > muy poco. > What is required for teachers to install Sugar on their laptops? Lo sentimos, no sé

Re: [IAEP] use of XOs

2016-04-25 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 25 April 2016 at 11:20, Sebastian Silva <sebast...@fuentelibre.org> wrote: > El 25/04/16 a las 08:55, Dave Crossland escribió: > > > On 25 April 2016 at 08:12, Sebastian Silva <sebast...@fuentelibre.org> > wrote: > >> Laura an I are using 'i

Re: [IAEP] use of XOs

2016-04-25 Thread Dave Crossland
On 25 April 2016 at 08:12, Sebastian Silva wrote: > Laura an I are using 'intervention' as we think Sugar users are not common > IT and *deployment* does sound like an impositive, top down approach. > Sounds like psychiatry ;)

Re: [IAEP] use of XOs

2016-04-25 Thread Dave Crossland
On 25 April 2016 at 07:11, Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 4:02 AM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > >> the same thing that OLPC called a "deployment" (which I think is a poor >> marketing term,

Re: [IAEP] use of XOs

2016-04-24 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 24 April 2016 at 21:44, Tony Anderson wrote: > The strategic need is to establish direct communication with folks at > these deployments to get first-hand information. This direct communication > can put the community in direct contact with the user community and

Re: [IAEP] 2015 SocialHelp Survey?

2016-04-24 Thread Dave Crossland
On 24 April 2016 at 17:59, Sam Parkinson wrote: > You might be interested in this blog post that I wrote on the subject: > https://www.sam.today/blog/sugar-onboard-user-testing.html > AWESOME! :D Here's the full text, I think everyone should read it :D *Sugar Onboard:

Re: [IAEP] Is "Most Sugar Users Use XO Laptops" True?

2016-04-24 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi José! I hope you could join this discussion thread :) I'm curious about your perspective from Uruguay on the following questions :) Are most Sugar users are using XO laptops? Is most Sugar use is in a school/classroom setting, or by the child in their free time at home? Also, I read in

Re: [IAEP] Is "Most Sugar Users Use XO Laptops" True?

2016-04-24 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Tony This is great! On 24 April 2016 at 04:18, wrote: > It is not clear how the usage changes as XO's have got older Is anyone in touch with people in Peru and Uruguay who would know what XO usage is like today? :) Cheers Dave

Re: [IAEP] IAEP "Most Sugar Users Use XO Laptops" True?

2016-04-23 Thread Dave Crossland
On 24 April 2016 at 00:00, Tony Anderson wrote: > I have access to 3 deployments in Rwanda (120 laptops at one school, > probably 200+ at two others). I also have > access to 3 deployments in the Philippines (1 primary school with 15 > XO-1.5, 1 primary school with 12 Dell

Re: [IAEP] Neko Memes for Cats / Memes de Neko para Gatos

2016-04-23 Thread Dave Crossland
On 24 April 2016 at 00:09, Laura Vargas wrote: > Would be nice to be able to Localize all 5 activities/games that were > produced in Collaboration with the Children of the Seed-Programmers > Workshop+SugarCamp in Chía (La ciudad de la luna ;) Colombia on 2014. > Added to

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 97, Issue 75

2016-04-23 Thread Dave Crossland
On 23 April 2016 at 23:45, Tony Anderson wrote: > I really wish we had more information on where and how XOs are used in the > field What information do you think we should find out? ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a

Re: [IAEP] Is "Most Sugar Users Use XO Laptops" True?

2016-04-23 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 24 April 2016 at 00:04, Chris Leonard wrote: > OLPC does share a table of the SKUs manufactured that contains some > information about where they are going. > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Manufacturing_data > > Far from perfect for your purpose, but is is a start.

Re: [IAEP] Is "Most Sugar Users Use XO Laptops" True?

2016-04-23 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi! On 23 April 2016 at 22:18, Adam Holt wrote: > Conversely it's possible much/most Sugar use is now happening outside of > classes (and outside of classrooms too!) > Sure, its possible. Do you think its probable? > in homes/libraries/cybercafes/etc at last? > Homes suggests

Re: [IAEP] Is "Most Sugar Users Use XO Laptops" True?

2016-04-23 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Okay cool. Laura, I agree about the importance of Spanish. My next question: Does anyone disagree with the assertion that "most Sugar use is in a school/classroom setting"? Cheers Dave ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)

Re: [IAEP] 2015 SocialHelp Survey?

2016-04-23 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Sam! On 23 April 2016 at 00:45, Sam Parkinson wrote: > > I'm no longer afk. I have collated the results into the attached > spreedsheet. > > Previously, I also wrote up an analysis of the results. It is also > attached. > Awesome!! I uploaded the files to the

Re: [IAEP] Features wishlist from 2007

2016-04-23 Thread Dave Crossland
On 22 April 2016 at 20:31, Tony Anderson wrote: > This is central to the 'vision'. In my 'vision', the goal is to promote > Sugar in the consumer world as an effective learning resource for learners > who > do not have access to computers or the internet (live on the wrong

Re: [IAEP] Features wishlist from 2007

2016-04-22 Thread Dave Crossland
On 22 April 2016 at 19:27, Sebastian Silva wrote: > > The UI described has some interesting features: > > " Aqua sugar - the children's machine translated for adults" > Alex Van de Sande - 2007 > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZnEtoYlRiE > Nice! Do you think any

[IAEP] Is "Most Sugar Users Use XO Laptops" True?

2016-04-22 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Does anyone disagree with the assertion that "most Sugar users are using XO laptops"? -- Cheers Dave ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] 2015 SocialHelp Survey?

2016-04-22 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi! On 22 April 2016 at 09:01, Laura Vargas wrote: > Would be nice to have them published. > I'd like to help with this. Please could you share the Google Doc with me in edit mode, d.crossl...@gmail.com, so I can take a look at all the metadata? :) Cheers Dave

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-04-20 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Chris On 20 April 2016 at 19:24, Chris Leonard wrote: > At the peril of actually discussing Wiki gardening on this thread, > I've created a new wiki page to catch some areas that might deserve a > little special attention.

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

2016-04-20 Thread Dave Crossland
On 20 April 2016 at 13:45, Chris Leonard wrote: > A hypothetical Translate Activity would be a > logical extension of the Sugar HIG concept of showing source code and > have substantial potential ot reach an even wider audience than we do > currently and by implementing

Re: [IAEP] 3 questions about Sugar Desktop Copyleft

2016-04-20 Thread Dave Crossland
On 20 April 2016 at 12:15, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > > You’re confusing Scratch with Squeak. > Yes, I meant to refer to Squeak, not Scratch; I hadn't got around to looking into Scratch > Scratch came with its own license that was not GPL compatible. They’ve > since

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

2016-04-20 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi! Its been 2 weeks since this thread was last updated; has anything else happened to move the proposal forward? Am I right that this will be decided on at the next SLOB meeting? Samson, some more questions below: On 6 April 2016 at 08:00, samson goddy wrote: >

Re: [IAEP] 3 questions about Sugar Desktop Copyleft

2016-04-20 Thread Dave Crossland
On 20 April 2016 at 10:09, Walter Bender wrote: > I thought we moved all of Sugar core to GPLv3-or-later. I will look for > the thread. > >> Please do :) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)

Re: [IAEP] 3 questions about Sugar Desktop Copyleft

2016-04-20 Thread Dave Crossland
On 20 April 2016 at 10:49, Jonas Smedegaard <d...@jones.dk> wrote: > Quoting Dave Crossland (2016-04-20 15:47:33) > > > https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/FAQ#What_are_the_principles_that_guide_Sugar_Labs.3F > > says > > > > What are the principles that

Re: [IAEP] 3 questions about Sugar Desktop Copyleft

2016-04-20 Thread Dave Crossland
On 20 April 2016 at 10:15, Chris Leonard <cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > > https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/FAQ#What_are_the_principles_that

[IAEP] 3 questions about Sugar Desktop Copyleft

2016-04-20 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/FAQ#What_are_the_principles_that_guide_Sugar_Labs.3F says What are the principles that guide Sugar Labs? Sugar Labs subscribes to principle that learning thrives within a culture of freedom of expression, hence it has a natural affinity with the free

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

2016-04-20 Thread Dave Crossland
(removed every cc but ieap) On 20 April 2016 at 02:15, Chris Leonard wrote: > As a practical matter, full-time internet connectivity is not required > for effective L10n work. > I agree, and I think that generally more can be done to make "Sugar On A Stick" into

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

2016-04-20 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 20 April 2016 at 08:59, Chris Leonard wrote: > Were it my proposal, I would be more than happy to do so, but it is > not. I think it is a matter for the proposer and the SLOB to make > that publication determination. > Sure :) > I will be creating suitable

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

2016-04-20 Thread Dave Crossland
(removed all direct emails, only using iaep list) Hi Chris On 20 April 2016 at 01:39, Chris Leonard wrote: > I worked with Samson to refine a narrower proposal that has been > presented to the SLOB by email. It is for the SLOB or Samson to > decide how / when to

[IAEP] "How can we advocate for Free/Libre Software in Education?"

2016-04-19 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi At FSF Libre Planet last month, Walker and Devin asked - https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Education-needs-free-software.pdf - the following question to conclude: How can we advocate for Free/Libre Software in Education? As I am delving into OLPC history, I've been interested the last

Re: [IAEP] Khan Academy?

2016-04-19 Thread Dave Crossland
On 19 April 2016 at 21:40, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > My point is that they aren't shipping sugar platforms, they are shipping > android platforms; Sorry Tony :) I got confused between KAlite and their newer product, https://learningequality.org/kolibri/ KAlite is

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 97, Issue 52

2016-04-19 Thread Dave Crossland
On 19 April 2016 at 18:50, Tony Anderson wrote: > It might be good for comparison: https://learningequality.org/ka-lite/. > VERY GOOD. Their platform - custom Android build - seems similar to OLPC Australia's "XO Duo" Android build. An old Paul Graham tip is to pay

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-04-19 Thread Dave Crossland
On 19 April 2016 at 18:04, Walter Bender wrote: > It complains that my phone is not adequate -- that I should use chrome or > safari or firefox -- and gives me a skeleton presentation. > In fact that's just a feature of the 1st demo. http://valeka.net/freelancer/ and

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-04-19 Thread Dave Crossland
On 19 April 2016 at 17:45, Walter Bender wrote: > Not such a great experience on my phone. > Did this not work? http://imgur.com/FpMncO1 ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-04-19 Thread Dave Crossland
On 19 April 2016 at 17:19, Iain Brown Douglas wrote: > > Other slide shows I have experimented with, tend to leave too much white > space, and/or it is difficult to arrange image and text nicely, and/or > images have to be re-sized at production time, resulting in the

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-04-19 Thread Dave Crossland
On 19 April 2016 at 17:19, Iain Brown Douglas wrote: > the challenge is to find a "screen shot + text" slide show. > Jeykll is a simple static site generator; I think it can integrate well with remarkjs, looking at view-source:http://remarkjs.com :)

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-04-19 Thread Dave Crossland
On 19 April 2016 at 11:20, Iain Brown Douglas wrote: > It seems this conversation has gone a long way from wiki gardening :) > :D What I have in mind for the wiki gardening is focused entirely on the wiki content; and making a list of wiki pages to be migrated to

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Allow running Sugar Activities outside Sugar

2016-04-18 Thread Dave Crossland
I LOVE IT :D ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

[IAEP] Early Sugar Design Documentation?

2016-04-17 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Trawling the depths of the OLPC/Sugar history again today, I came across http://www.mail-archive.com/fonc@vpri.org/msg04503.html in which Alan Kay opines on how Apple and Microsoft’s “app” based OS designs in the 80s introduced fundamental flaws that persist to Android and iOS today. To what

[IAEP] Wired: Pearson’s Quest to Cover the Planet in Company-Run Schools

2016-04-17 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Interesting #longread in Wired this month: http://www.wired.com/2016/04/apec-schools/ -- Cheers Dave This article appears in the April 2016 issue. By Anya Kamenetz (@anya1anya), the author of The Test, a book about standardized testing in US schools. FOR DECADES, THE major landmark of

Re: [IAEP] SL 2016 Annual Budget / Presupuesto Proyecto Sugar Labs año 2016

2016-04-17 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi! Today I was reading the proposed budget for Wikimedia Foundation, which has been undergoing some leadership problems in the last few years - cf. mollywhite.net/wikimedia-timeline/ - and I hope this might also be interesting for those considering the Sugar Labs budget.

Re: [IAEP] [joke] The Sugarization of Windows

2016-04-13 Thread Dave Crossland
I love Neko!! :D ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] [joke] The Sugarization of Windows

2016-04-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 13 April 2016 at 16:19, James Cameron <qu...@laptop.org> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 03:35:50PM -0400, Dave Crossland wrote: > > http://blog.emojipedia.org/ninja-cat-the-windows-only-emoji/ > > These black borders something awful familiar about that ;) > >

[IAEP] [joke] The Sugarization of Windows

2016-04-13 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi http://blog.emojipedia.org/ninja-cat-the-windows-only-emoji/ These black borders something awful familiar about that ;) -- Cheers Dave ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-04-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 11 April 2016 at 17:40, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > What are the next steps for the Wiki Gardening Weekend location > Who would like to join myself, Walter and Bernie the weekend of May 14-15 in Boston? :) ___ IAEP -- It's

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-04-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 11 April 2016 at 17:51, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > Nikola/Lektor > It seems http://grow.io has great l16n, perhaps that could be used. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarl

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-04-12 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Martin! On 12 April 2016 at 17:02, Martin Dengler <mar...@martindengler.com> wrote: > > On 12 Apr 2016, at 14:45, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > > > On 12 April 2016 at 15:38, Martin Dengler <mar...@martindengler.com> > wrote: > >> T

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-04-12 Thread Dave Crossland
On 12 April 2016 at 15:38, Martin Dengler wrote: > The point is that because it's a waste of work and nobody wants to do it, Give me the keys and I'll do it. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-04-12 Thread Dave Crossland
, https://github.com/sugarlabs/www-sugarlabs and https://developer.sugarlabs.org already started the move from wiki to markdown-on-github, and I'm advocating for completing it. > El 12/04/16 a las 07:58, Dave Crossland escribió: > > > > +1 > > > > Who will set this up

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-04-12 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 11 April 2016 at 23:30, Sam P. wrote: > Hosting a static site is a non-issue. We can easily do it on SL servers. > We can even configure it to automatically rebuild on git update. > > I would not use github pages. It does not yet support TLS, which is very > important in

[IAEP] 2015 SocialHelp Survey?

2016-04-11 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Sam! Pinned to the top of https://socialhelp.sugarlabs.org is a thread, "Survey - “How bad is Sugar (software)?”" Are the results of this survey available anywhere? :) If not, the survey contents is anonymous, so I don't see any reason to keep the full results private, but perhaps I'm

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-04-11 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Sebastian! In the "Seeking insights into Oversight_Board/Decisions" thread you said, On 11 April 2016 at 14:57, Sebastian Silva wrote: > El 11/04/16 a las 13:56, Walter Bender escribió: > > >> Generally I think all mediawiki instances should be retired and

[IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-04-11 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Walter! In the "Seeking insights into Oversight_Board/Decisions" thread you said, On 11 April 2016 at 14:56, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > >> >> On 11 April 2

Re: [IAEP] Seeking insights into Oversight_Board/Decisions

2016-04-11 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Adam On 11 April 2016 at 15:21, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > >> On 11 April 2016 at 14:32, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote: >> >>> You are thorough enough to

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] Action needed on two issues

2016-04-11 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Sean! On 11 April 2016 at 15:37, Sean DALY wrote: > Prior to the pack, I was funding press releases on pay-as-you-go out of my > pocket, and I wasn't able to continue that any more at over $200 a pop. > Thank you so much for that huge material contribution - there are so

Re: [IAEP] Seeking insights into Oversight_Board/Decisions

2016-04-11 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Sean! On 11 April 2016 at 15:57, Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > >> Given the trademark fee was recently paid to renew the trademarks, I >> guess the merits were acce

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