[IAEP] "Physics with XO" by Guzmán Trinidad now available in English

Our team would like to share with the community the immediate availability [1] of Guzmán Trinidad's "Physics with XO". It is a book that includes 30 experimental activities for the Physics Laboratory that utilize the XO laptop's

[IAEP] Physics With the XO (in Spanish) by Trinidad Guzman of Uruguay

Hi All, Some of you may remember Guzman Trinidad from Ciebal Jam. He is the teacher who showed us so many wonderful sensors that he made to do experiments with XOs in his science classes. Well, he has just finished writing a book: Physics with the XO I haven't had a chance to read it all yet,

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

Science is the process of trying to put what we can investigate and think about what's out there in as close a relation as possible with what we can represent in symbols. In practise this is a kind of coevolution. And I don't see why you don't do that with the Physics activity. For example,

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 08:41:40PM -0700, Alan Kay wrote: The important thing about what the computer does in this case -- repeated incremental additions -- is that the children can and do carry it out themselves. Well, perhaps gravity is an ideal topic to teach for this age group.

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

, August 23, 2009 8:13:08 AM Subject: Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas? On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 08:41:40PM -0700, Alan Kay wrote: The important thing about what the computer does in this case -- repeated incremental additions -- is that the children can and do carry it out themselves

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

. Best wishes, Alan From: Asaf Paris Mandoki asa...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas? [snip] Most of the Physics we know now has been done by: -observation -ideation of models (usually simplified) -using the models to make predictions

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Asaf Among other things, our human brains are set up by nature to -- take the world as it seems -- want to learn the culture around us -- believe (and then try to justify our beliefs) -- especially believe our

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

, August 23, 2009 10:04:08 AM Subject: Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas? On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Asaf Among other things, our human brains are set up by nature to -- take the world as it seems -- want to learn the culture around us

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

; Joshua N Pritikin jpriti...@pobox.com; Dmitri Droujkov drouj...@gmail.com *Sent:* Sunday, August 23, 2009 10:04:08 AM *Subject:* Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas? On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Asaf Among other things, our human brains

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

Hi Bill, On 22 Aug 2009, at 22:44, Bill Kerr wrote: hi alan, still thinking about the broader issue you raise about the importance of real science and its connection to computer based work and how to attempt to implement this in school settings (complex issue) however, I do notice

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

From: Bill Kerr billk...@gmail.com To: Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com Cc: Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com; iaep SugarLabs iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; Brian Jordan bcjor...@gmail.com; Asaf Paris Mandoki asa...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 2:44:15 PM Subject: Re: [IAEP] Physics

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

Kerr billk...@gmail.com *To:* Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com *Cc:* Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com; iaep SugarLabs iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; Brian Jordan bcjor...@gmail.com; Asaf Paris Mandoki asa...@gmail.com *Sent:* Saturday, August 22, 2009 2:44:15 PM *Subject:* Re: [IAEP] Physics

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas? hi alan, still thinking about the broader issue you raise about the importance of real science and its connection to computer based work and how to attempt to implement this in school settings (complex issue) however, I do notice that many of the standard

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 04:49:53PM -0700, Alan Kay wrote: Four months earlier they did some play with this with the cars on their screen and are able to see that this should be the same model, but vertically not horizontally. They write a script with the two increase bys and then find a way

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

there?. Best wishes, Alan From: Joshua N Pritikin jpriti...@pobox.com To: Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com Cc: Bill Kerr billk...@gmail.com; iaep SugarLabs iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 8:20:01 PM Subject: Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

How do we help people find this sort of idea and the video I made? I think we need to link them from the activities.sugarlabs.org page somehow. Is there already a solution for this? On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 15 Aug 2009, at 20:58, Asaf Paris

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

There is room in the description field in ASLO to include links. Probably we want to link to a generic Physics page in the wiki and go from there. -walter On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Caroline Meekssolutiongr...@gmail.com wrote: How do we help people find this sort of idea and the video I

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

On 18 Aug 2009, at 17:49, Caroline Meeks wrote: How do we help people find this sort of idea and the video I made? I think we need to link them from the activities.sugarlabs.org page somehow. Is there already a solution for this? Currently we're building up:

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

Alan You ask whether Bill's Physics Activity suggestions have anything to do with real science. You rightly point out that the Physics Activity is an imperfect simulation of the real world and just as mysterious. Certainly playing with the Physics Activity is not the best way to discover how

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

From: fors...@ozonline.com.au fors...@ozonline.com.au To: Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com Cc: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 12:25:11 AM Subject: Re: Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas? Alan You ask whether Bill's Physics Activity suggestions have anything to do

[IAEP] Physics Activity - Should we change the name

Sugar is blessed with a number of powerful activities that are platforms for open ended creativity. - Turtle Art - eToys - Tam Tam Suite - Scratch - FlipSticks I notice they all have names that under promise and don't set up rigid expectations. I think Physics could follow this

Re: [IAEP] Physics Activity - Should we change the name

science do so outside the regular classroom, and very often via contact through some knowledgeable adult. Best wishes, Alan From: Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com To: iaep iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 6:27:50 AM Subject: [IAEP

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

On Sunday 16 Aug 2009 9:42:39 am Bill Kerr wrote: Is there are real danger of students getting the wrong idea about science from using the physics program? I'm not really sure - some will, some won't - but I think my students see it as a game type program rather than a reality show. Their

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

, Alan From: fors...@ozonline.com.au fors...@ozonline.com.au To: Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com Cc: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 12:25:11 AM Subject: Re: Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas? Alan You ask whether Bill's Physics

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

Hi Bill, Not sure if you wanted answers :-) On 15 Aug 2009, at 02:51, Bill Kerr wrote: I might try these next week and see how they go: does altering the size of an object affect its drop time? No does joining objects together (large and small) affect drop time? No Remember, you can

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

On 15 Aug 2009, at 20:58, Asaf Paris Mandoki wrote: build a complex or elegant building that doesn't fall down This can be done on top of an earthquake simulator (see attached image). The earthquake simulator can be modified to produce longitudinal and transverse waves. Now that is a really

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

thanks for response and additional suggestions, Gary and Asaf (and screenshots are very useful) I'll create a worksheet for my class and post the link when done - thinking that I'll organise it into a basic, harder and advanced sections Caroline there are already great ideas for lessons and

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

I'll create a worksheet for my class and post the link when done - thinking that I'll organise it into a basic, harder and advanced sections Good idea. is water possible? that would fit nicely with density experiments Water as a medium is technically possible but I'm still not sure how could

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

Hi Folks I've previously written a fair amount on this list about what real science is actually about and it would be tiresome to repeat it. And I'm sure you have reasons for what you've been suggesting in this thread about ways to use a simulation software package in Sugar. But are you

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

hi alan, I'm not sure how your argument here would not apply also to etoys? Is your objection mainly to the name of the program - physics? On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Folks I've previously written a fair amount on this list about what real

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

SugarLabs iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; Brian Jordan bcjor...@gmail.com; Asaf Paris Mandoki asa...@gmail.com *Sent:* Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:38:06 PM *Subject:* Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas? hi alan, I'm not sure how your argument here would not apply also to etoys? Is your

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

one possibility would be to not attempt to teach physics but to make a game good for introduction and also for teamwork see http://xo-whs2009.blogspot.com/2009/08/wow-factor-physics.html http://xo-whs2009.blogspot.com/2009/08/wow-factor-physics.html

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

I might try these next week and see how they go: does altering the size of an object affect its drop time? does joining objects together (large and small) affect drop time? does altering the length of a pendulum affect its swing time? before doing the above say what you think will happen after

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

On Friday 14 Aug 2009 7:40:30 pm Caroline Meeks wrote: For Physics I think I want a really simple challenge that I can demo then have students solve it fairly quickly. then I want a couple levels of additional challenge where students can solve problems in different ways. For best results,

[IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

Physics is so cool! One of the students today did a really great job with it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nseWyxaN6g Does anyone have an idea for a 1 hour or so lesson I could do with Physics that would teach a Physics concept and still be incredibly engaging? -- Caroline Meeks Solution

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Caroline Meekscarol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: Physics is so cool! One of the students today did a really great job with it:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nseWyxaN6g Does anyone have an idea for a 1 hour or so lesson I could do with Physics that would teach 

Re: [IAEP] Physics

subb...@gmail.com To: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Cc: Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 7:30:27 PM Subject: Re: [IAEP] Physics On Wednesday 01 Jul 2009 6:05:08 pm Alan Kay wrote: An important part of ball drop was the separation of 3-4 months between the math (scripting

Re: [IAEP] Physics

On Wednesday 01 Jul 2009 6:05:08 pm Alan Kay wrote: An important part of ball drop was the separation of 3-4 months between the math (scripting various kinds of motion for the children's painted cars and dropping markers to reveal the history of their motion), and the science (handling various

Re: [IAEP] Physics

, Alan From: Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com To: IAEP SugarLabs iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:21:54 AM Subject: [IAEP] Physics Hi All, I sent this yesterday, but it got filtered out by some machine since I didn't send

Re: [IAEP] Physics

...@yahoo.com Cc: Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com; IAEP SugarLabs iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 12:40:46 AM Subject: Re: [IAEP] Physics On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Alan Kayalan.n...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Caryl, It's possible that the Physics Activity could get

Re: [IAEP] Physics

SugarLabs iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 12:40:46 AM Subject: Re: [IAEP] Physics On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Alan Kayalan.n...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Caryl, It's possible that the Physics Activity could get students interested in Physics, but the deepest and most

[IAEP] Physics

Hi All, I sent this yesterday, but it got filtered out by some machine since I didn't send it as a reply. So I am sending it again today. This is the old science teacher in me talking...I think the Physics Activity has great potential for getting students interested in Physics and in thinking

Re: [IAEP] Physics

-- and how difficult it is to teach and learn. Very best wishes, Alan From: Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com To: IAEP SugarLabs iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:21:54 AM Subject: [IAEP] Physics Hi All, I sent this yesterday

Re: [IAEP] Physics

On 30 Jun 2009, at 17:21, Caryl Bigenho wrote: Hi All, I sent this yesterday, but it got filtered out by some machine since I didn't send it as a reply. So I am sending it again today. This is the old science teacher in me talking...I think the Physics Activity has great potential for

Re: [IAEP] Physics

to seeing what else you will do with it. Caryl CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; asa...@gmail.com; bcjor...@gmail.com From: g...@garycmartin.com To: cbige...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [IAEP] Physics Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:00:42 +0100 On 30 Jun 2009, at 17:21, Caryl Bigenho wrote: Hi All, I

Re: [IAEP] Physics

I like Physics, thanks for drawing my attention to it. A simple guide to hacking Physics using Activities that normally come with a XO (Browse, Pippy Terminal) at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Modifying_Activities#Modifying_Physics Currently all objects have the same material settings: