Science is the process of trying to put what we can investigate and
think about what's out there in as close a relation as possible with
what we can represent in symbols. In practise this is a kind of
coevolution.
And I don't see why you don't do that with the Physics activity. For
example,
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 08:41:40PM -0700, Alan Kay wrote:
The important thing about what the computer does in this case --
repeated incremental additions -- is that the children can and do
carry it out themselves.
Well, perhaps gravity is an ideal topic to teach for this age group.
, August 23, 2009 8:13:08 AM
Subject: Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 08:41:40PM -0700, Alan Kay wrote:
The important thing about what the computer does in this case --
repeated incremental additions -- is that the children can and do
carry it out themselves
.
Best wishes,
Alan
From: Asaf Paris Mandoki asa...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?
[snip]
Most of the Physics we know now has been done by:
-observation
-ideation of models (usually simplified)
-using the models to make predictions
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi Asaf
Among other things, our human brains are set up by nature to
-- take the world as it seems
-- want to learn the culture around us
-- believe (and then try to justify our beliefs)
-- especially believe our
, August 23, 2009 10:04:08 AM
Subject: Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi Asaf
Among other things, our human brains are set up by nature to
-- take the world as it seems
-- want to learn the culture around us
;
Joshua N Pritikin jpriti...@pobox.com; Dmitri Droujkov
drouj...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Sunday, August 23, 2009 10:04:08 AM
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On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi Asaf
Among other things, our human brains
Hi Bill,
On 22 Aug 2009, at 22:44, Bill Kerr wrote:
hi alan,
still thinking about the broader issue you raise about the
importance of
real science and its connection to computer based work and how to
attempt to
implement this in school settings (complex issue)
however, I do notice
Mandoki asa...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:38:06 PM
Subject: Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?
hi alan,
I'm not sure how your argument here would not apply also to etoys?
Is your objection mainly to the name of the program - physics?
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:00 PM
; Asaf Paris
Mandoki asa...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:38:06 PM
*Subject:* Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?
hi alan,
I'm not sure how your argument here would not apply also to etoys?
Is your objection mainly to the name of the program - physics?
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009
: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?
hi alan,
still thinking about the broader issue you raise about the importance of real
science and its connection to computer based work and how to attempt to
implement this in school settings (complex issue)
however, I do notice that many of the standard
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 04:49:53PM -0700, Alan Kay wrote:
Four months earlier they did some play with this with the cars on
their screen and are able to see that this should be the same model,
but vertically not horizontally. They write a script with the two
increase bys and then find a way
there?.
Best wishes,
Alan
From: Joshua N Pritikin jpriti...@pobox.com
To: Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com
Cc: Bill Kerr billk...@gmail.com; iaep SugarLabs iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 8:20:01 PM
Subject: Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas
How do we help people find this sort of idea and the video I made? I think
we need to link them from the activities.sugarlabs.org page somehow. Is
there already a solution for this?
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote:
On 15 Aug 2009, at 20:58, Asaf Paris
There is room in the description field in ASLO to include links.
Probably we want to link to a generic Physics page in the wiki and go
from there.
-walter
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Caroline Meekssolutiongr...@gmail.com wrote:
How do we help people find this sort of idea and the video I
On 18 Aug 2009, at 17:49, Caroline Meeks wrote:
How do we help people find this sort of idea and the video I made?
I think we need to link them from the activities.sugarlabs.org page
somehow. Is there already a solution for this?
Currently we're building up:
Alan
You ask whether Bill's Physics Activity suggestions have anything to do with
real science. You rightly point out that the Physics Activity is an imperfect
simulation of the real world and just as mysterious. Certainly playing with the
Physics Activity is not the best way to discover how
From: fors...@ozonline.com.au fors...@ozonline.com.au
To: Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com
Cc: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 12:25:11 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?
Alan
You ask whether Bill's Physics Activity suggestions have anything to do
On Sunday 16 Aug 2009 9:42:39 am Bill Kerr wrote:
Is there are real danger of students getting the wrong idea about science
from using the physics program? I'm not really sure - some will, some won't
- but I think my students see it as a game type program rather than a
reality show. Their
,
Alan
From: fors...@ozonline.com.au fors...@ozonline.com.au
To: Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com
Cc: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 12:25:11 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?
Alan
You ask whether Bill's Physics
Hi Bill,
Not sure if you wanted answers :-)
On 15 Aug 2009, at 02:51, Bill Kerr wrote:
I might try these next week and see how they go:
does altering the size of an object affect its drop time?
No
does joining objects together (large and small) affect drop time?
No
Remember, you can
On 15 Aug 2009, at 20:58, Asaf Paris Mandoki wrote:
build a complex or elegant building that doesn't fall down
This can be done on top of an earthquake simulator (see attached
image). The earthquake simulator can be modified to produce
longitudinal and transverse waves.
Now that is a really
thanks for response and additional suggestions, Gary and Asaf (and
screenshots are very useful)
I'll create a worksheet for my class and post the link when done - thinking
that I'll organise it into a basic, harder and advanced sections
Caroline there are already great ideas for lessons and
I'll create a worksheet for my class and post the link when done - thinking
that I'll organise it into a basic, harder and advanced sections
Good idea.
is water possible?
that would fit nicely with density experiments
Water as a medium is technically possible but I'm still not sure how
could
Hi Folks
I've previously written a fair amount on this list about what real science is
actually about and it would be tiresome to repeat it.
And I'm sure you have reasons for what you've been suggesting in this thread
about ways to use a simulation software package in Sugar.
But are you
hi alan,
I'm not sure how your argument here would not apply also to etoys?
Is your objection mainly to the name of the program - physics?
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi Folks
I've previously written a fair amount on this list about what real
SugarLabs
iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; Brian Jordan bcjor...@gmail.com; Asaf Paris
Mandoki asa...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:38:06 PM
*Subject:* Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?
hi alan,
I'm not sure how your argument here would not apply also to etoys?
Is your
one possibility would be to not attempt to teach physics but to make a game
good for introduction and also for teamwork
see
http://xo-whs2009.blogspot.com/2009/08/wow-factor-physics.html
http://xo-whs2009.blogspot.com/2009/08/wow-factor-physics.html
I might try these next week and see how they go:
does altering the size of an object affect its drop time?
does joining objects together (large and small) affect drop time?
does altering the length of a pendulum affect its swing time?
before doing the above say what you think will happen
after
On Friday 14 Aug 2009 7:40:30 pm Caroline Meeks wrote:
For Physics I think I want a really simple challenge that I can demo then
have students solve it fairly quickly. then I want a couple levels of
additional challenge where students can solve problems in different ways.
For best results,
Physics is so cool! One of the students today did a really great job with
it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nseWyxaN6g
Does anyone have an idea for a 1 hour or so lesson I could do with
Physics that would teach a Physics concept and still be incredibly engaging?
--
Caroline Meeks
Solution
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Caroline
Meekscarol...@solutiongrove.com wrote:
Physics is so cool! One of the students today did a really great job with
it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nseWyxaN6g
Does anyone have an idea for a 1 hour or so lesson I could do with
Physics that would teach
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