On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:48 AM, Maria Droujkova droujk...@gmail.comwrote:
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On Tuesday 30 Jun 2009 11:23:24 pm Alan Kay wrote:
what is more interesting is how well certain ways of thinking work
in finding strong models of phenomena compared to
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On Wednesday 01 Jul 2009 9:03:26 am Alan Kay wrote:
Your last sentence is somewhat parallel to what many business types like to
say
On Thursday 02 Jul 2009 5:19:58 pm Alan Kay wrote:
Knowledge - On the other hand, Henry Ford was not nearly as smart as
Leonardo, but was born at a very good time and in a good place, so he was
able to combine engineering and production inventions to make millions of
inexpensive automobiles.
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 15:12, K. K. Subramaniamsubb...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday 02 Jul 2009 5:19:58 pm Alan Kay wrote:
Knowledge - On the other hand, Henry Ford was not nearly as smart as
Leonardo, but was born at a very good time and in a good place, so he was
able to combine engineering
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On Thursday 02 Jul 2009 5:19:58 pm Alan Kay wrote:
Knowledge - On the other hand, Henry Ford was not nearly as smart as
Leonardo, but was born at a very good time and in a good place, so he
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Alan Kayalan.n...@yahoo.com wrote:
When I get together with other scientists, at some point I ask them how
they
got started. For most, it wasn't because of school, but because of direct
contact with adults, often a relative who was a scientist, and some of the
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On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Alan Kayalan.n...@yahoo.com
on David Kokorowski, David Pritchard and
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On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Alan Kayalan.n...@yahoo.com wrote:
When I get together with other scientists, at some point I ask them how
they
got started. For most, it wasn't because of school, but because of direct
contact
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On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Alan Kayalan.n...@yahoo.com wrote:
When I get together
On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 11:08:18AM -0500, David Farning wrote:
[thread about how to get kids interested in science]
While this is an interesting topic. It is getting pretty far from the
goals of Sugar Labs, to create and promote a learning platform.
I think it speaks to the components such a
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On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote:
In theory, teachers are supposed to be a critical pool of significant adults
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On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Maria Droujkovadroujk...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote:
In theory
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 18:21, Martin Denglermar...@martindengler.com wrote:
On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 11:08:18AM -0500, David Farning wrote:
[thread about how to get kids interested in science]
While this is an interesting topic. It is getting pretty far from the
goals of Sugar Labs, to create
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:12 PM, K. K. Subramaniamsubb...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday 01 Jul 2009 9:03:26 am Alan Kay wrote:
Your last sentence is somewhat parallel to what many business types like to
say about how hard it is to measure Return On Investment for research
funding. But in the
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Maria Droujkova droujk...@gmail.com wrote:
...
As I said, I am a beginner at Sugar, so what I say now may need (a lot of?)
adjustment.
We should assure everyone that we all are beginners at Sugar (as Alan did.)
It's An Education Project, not a platform
On Monday 29 Jun 2009 10:01:34 pm Alan Kay wrote:
(a) the epistemology of science is not at all what most people suppose,
and it is rather distant from the normal ways our minds are set up to work,
Could you please elaborate it? Isn't the desire to seek the deeper principles
behind things and
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I share Alan and Edward's concern that we are selling kids short, if physics
education is all about just getting the 'right' answers but want to break down
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On Monday 29 Jun 2009 10:01:34 pm Alan Kay wrote:
(a) the epistemology of science is not at all what most people suppose
On Tuesday 30 Jun 2009 5:42:29 pm Alan Kay wrote:
..There I should have said modern science to denote the kind of science
that Galileo and a few others
started, which Bacon discussed so well as a debugging process for what is
wrong with our brains/minds, and which Newton first showed how
On Tuesday 30 Jun 2009 11:23:24 pm Alan Kay wrote:
what is more interesting is how well certain ways of thinking work
in finding strong models of phenomena compared to others.
This is the part that interests me too ...
So, if we get
pneumonia, there are lots of paradigms to choose from, but
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Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 7:31:07 PM
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On Tuesday 30 Jun 2009 11:23:24 pm Alan Kay wrote
You can see the sort of problem Alan describes on occasional episodes
of Mythbusters on the Discovery channel, where they talk about myths
in the movies. The most recent such that I saw was Curving Bullet,
based on a scene in the Angelina Jolie movie Wanted, in which swinging
a gun is supposed to
I share Alan and Edward's concern that we are selling kids short, if physics
education is all about just getting the 'right' answers but want to break down
the question posed by Greg into some sub-questions:
1)Despite the limitations of education which focuses on getting the 'right'
answers,
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