Ed,
Haven't had to concern myself too much with raised floors lately though I
did have access to one at a university a few years ago. Universities tend
to be lenient about raised floor access.
I remember discussions about Halon (don't know how to spell it either) being
a bad thing.
One
Hi all,
We had just migrate from OS390 2.10 to zOS 1.4.
We got a PB in SA (release 1.3) : The Application CICC, having VTAM TCPIP
as parents, don't start at IPL !
Here's the SA msg at SYSLOG :
IEF196I AOF313I 11:46:16 : START FOR SUBSYSTEM CICC (JOB CICC) WAS NOT
AOF313I 11:46:16 : START
Magen,
You don't need 2105 support for the 9980 if that is a problem for you. It is
preferable to use 2105 emulation, but 3990-6 works just fine.
You may want to check with HDS (my employer) that current microcode levels
are Downward Compatible to OS390 v.1.2.
Ron
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On 6/21/2005 6:25 AM, Tom Rusnak wrote:
Is there any way to Give a socket to an address space where the address
space does not have an OMVS segment?
As soon as the address space issues the TAKESOCKET I get an error code of
156 indicating that that address space needs an OMVS security segment.
In a message dated 6/21/2005 6:39:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I was surprised that no one mentioned that interface definition file
IEANTCOB is provided precisely for the purpose of allowing a COBOL program
to call the name/token services
Maybe not very many
Agreed, Bill. An anchor for persistent data is the application, and
name/token services is the right answer. For very small amounts of data,
though, it just seems like overkill.
Peter
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From: Bill Fairchild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 9:18 PM
...
An unauthorized attempt is already a security violation.
...
But, an attempt that should not have succeeded could end up making headlines.
-teD
(The secret to success is sincerity.
If you can fake that,
you've got it made!)
On Jun 20, 2005, at 2:36 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/20/2005
at 03:02 AM, Joe Zitzelberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I quoted those unrelated prices only to illustrate how absurd it
might be to only consider cost of hardware when making ones decision
on UCS
As I said earlier, name/token services is the right answer to the right
question. I had only hoped there was a less complex method for small
amounts of data.
Peter
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Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 10:00 PM
To:
On Jun 20, 2005, at 8:31 PM, Clark Morris wrote:
1. There must be a path from EBCDIC to either Unicode or the full ISO
2. Given that 54 gigabytes is a relatively small disk drive in the
3. The limitation to eight characters for names and passwords (44
4. A clearer direct batch submission
I searched the archives and found an ICSF thread there but it didn't
have what I was looking for. I have 2 LPARS on the same processor in a
sysplex. I can start ICSF from either LPAR. My question is should they
be sharing the same vsam datasets pks cks or should each LPAR have it's
own set? The
In a message dated 6/21/2005 7:23:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
An anchor for persistent data is the application, and
name/token services is the right answer. For very small amounts of data,
though, it just seems like overkill.
This reminds me of what
As all are likely aware, CICS no longer uses its own journals. Instead it use
the z/OS system logger. I know zippo about this function. I have tried reading
the books. But, as far as my comprehension is concerned, they may have well
been translated from Sanskrit to British English by an
1) //STEP1EXEC PGM=IXCL1DSU
//ACCIGN DD DUMMY
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSINDD *
DEFINEDS SYSPLEX(BAPTPLEX)
Thanks - I'll pick them up tomorrow at work. I'm working from home today due to
some work on my house. That is definately one plus of all this Internet stuff.
Working from home on an ADSL link sure beats that 300 baud acoustic modem that
I had. OOPS, there I go back into nostolgia grin.
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We are interested in testing our migration and recall DFSMS exits and wish
for a bullet proof way to make sure that we are only migrating specific
datasets. Yes, we can alter the management classes to not migrate dataset
other than the ones we want. But we are seeking some way in which RACF
You have to set up the Logger subsystem, if not already done in your
system(s).
THE bible is: SA22-7625-xx z/OS Vxxx MVS Setting Up a Sysplex
See: Chapter 9. Planning for System Logger Applications
You must decide if your CICS logs (and therefor the Logstreams) must be
shared by more than one
I guess that I wasn't clear in my original message. I do have all the
logstreams set up and everything is running OK for the most part. But I did
everything in cookbook style without understanding why I did what I did. One
of my many problems is that I usually want to know why I'm supposed to
Richard,
I don't think this is what Richard is looking for: it will keep him as big a
dummy as he was before he asked the question. Besides his system programmer
does not like him to blindly submit this JCL into the system, without
knowing what it takes to create coupledatasets, update COUPLExx
For this discussion, it might be best on CICS-L, especially if you are
looking at using the CA product for you logstream management. There is
a lot of knowledge over there concerning logstream management. Are you
using the SUBSYS=LOGR parm? You might be able to reduce the amount of
info you are
I don't intend to take away any excuse to escape to work tomorrow, but can't
you access the manuals at the IBM site from your home?
Kees.
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Thanks - I'll pick them up tomorrow at work. I'm working from home today
due to
On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:40:24 -0500, Ward, Mike S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I searched the archives and found an ICSF thread there but it didn't
have what I was looking for. I have 2 LPARS on the same processor in a
sysplex. I can start ICSF from either LPAR. My question is should they
be sharing
Peter Relson wrote:
I was surprised that no one mentioned that interface definition file
IEANTCOB is provided precisely for the purpose of allowing a COBOL program
to call the name/token services.
Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design
Why would you be surprised no one mentioned it? I've
You might try giving DFHSM access of NONE to the files you do not want it to
migrate.
However, IMHO, this would be as much work as updating/maintaining management
classes.
Why do you not want to use management classes?
On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:26:43 -0500, Daniel Moshief [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John,
If it's understanding how CICS uses the logger that you're mostly interested
in, read anything you can find by Jim Grauel, like this:
http://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/PubAllNum/PRS183
And of course, search the archives of CICS-L. (But you already knew that)
HTH,
Greg
On LPAR 1 CSF starts with domain 0. On LPAR 1 MQSeries will use the
cards for SSL encryption of the channels. In LPAR 2 the domain is 1 and
MQSeries in that LPAR will use the cards for SSL channel encryption. CSF
starts on both LPARS using the same vsam datasets. CSF doesn't complain
about it at
In [EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 06/20/2005
at 05:33 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
The subject says it all, I am trying to find out if there is a
supported+documented interface to set and retrieve the TCBUSER word
from a NON-authorized program WITHOUT writing any authorized code.
John,
If you are a member of SHARE there are many great past and present
presentations on the MVS Logger and CICS. Jim Grauel and Ed Addison have
been presenting on this topic since the late 1990's
They have Logger 101, performance and tuning, common problems and so on.
These are a
Farley, Peter x23353 wrote:
Agreed, Bill. An anchor for persistent data is the application, and
name/token services is the right answer. For very small amounts of data,
though, it just seems like overkill.
Name/token works for both large and small amounts of data. For large
amounts of
Op-ed piece from today's New York Times titled The Data Fleecing of
America: _http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/21/opinion/21tue3.html_
(http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/21/opinion/21tue3.html)
Negligent CEO apologizes thus: We should not have been doing that.
Now something will happen at
Hello Lucy,
I was just wondering if changes to a management class apply to already
migrated datasets. I know that I could chage the management class but what
happens if that dataset is already migrated and you apply any king of
changes to that management class?
Take care
Frank
On 6/21/2005 7:39 AM, Peter Relson wrote:
I was surprised that no one mentioned that interface definition file
IEANTCOB is provided precisely for the purpose of allowing a COBOL program
to call the name/token services.
It would probably help if IEANTCOB (and the other samples) were
mentioned
On 6/21/2005 10:01 AM, John Giltner wrote:
You might try giving DFHSM access of NONE to the files you do not want it to
migrate.
I would not expect that to work. When operating on its own behalf, I
believe that DFHSM gives itself sufficient authority to do anything it
needs to do.
...
Is there any way of crippling DFHSM to be assured that we only handling
certain datasets without updating an exit or updating management class
attributes?
...
Data processing usually consists of picking the correct wrench to drive in the
right screw.
Use the tools supplied.
IMO, management
...
A very nice summary of some of the most glaring problems.
But will anyone at IBM listen...
...
Not through this forum.
Try SHARE, or other accepted means of asking for changes.
-teD
(The secret to success is sincerity.
If you can fake that,
you've got it made!)
Hello Bob,
Thank you very much, This question came up because we had some Datasets
in our site that were being migrated for eternity (NOLIMIT) and verify
some of these datasets we decided to change it so they would stay for a
month.
I made the change and nothing happened during PSM or SSM. I
On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:33:36 -0500, Ward, Mike S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On LPAR 1 CSF starts with domain 0. On LPAR 1 MQSeries will use the
cards for SSL encryption of the channels. In LPAR 2 the domain is 1 and
MQSeries in that LPAR will use the cards for SSL channel encryption. CSF
starts on
Most likely the messages you are triggering on don't exist anymore. I
believe TCPIP has new messages indicating successful startup.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Not through this forum.
Yeah, too much fertilizer!
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Hi,
What command can display cache size and Fast Write Status for a 3990-6 (or
similar)
in OS/390 console:
Thanks
Carlos
Sao Paulo - Brasil
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Your original message implied that you have LOGGER up and running,
especially for CICS, already.
I would like to see if your JCL that is being used is specifying the DELETE
parameter in the unload step. That could be troublesome in your
circumstance. If it's not there, then re-run the unload
How did it out grow your RS/6000?
Same reaction here. As long as you're using the Cached Client, HOD
doesn't impose much workload on the Web (HTTP) server that's delivering
it. In principle you can support a vast enterprise on a pair (for
redundancy) of relatively tiny HTTP servers.
If the
I've been told that another sysprog was given a method by the ex-CICS sysprog
on how to ensure that no LOGR records were lost. Apparently he has gone a round
tuit yet. Below is the JCL which unloads the LOGR for one of the regions. I
will wait to see what the appropriate method to ensure no
We use Cybermation's Alchemist.
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Hi,
I would like to have opinions on Mainframe (OS/390 z/OS) software
packages for change control when putting applications into production,
such as SCLM and Endevor.
Could anyone give me any opinions on pros and cons of SCLM, Endevor,
What command can display cache size and Fast Write Status for a 3990-6 (or
similar)
in OS/390 console:
The console command: DS P, (DEVSERV PATH) will display Cache
Fast Write and Dasd Fast Write status (column headings CFW and DFW. I
don't know how to display cache size from the
The command you are looking for is DEVSERV i believe.
Try:
DEVSERV QDASD,unit address
Or:
DEVSERV QDASD,?
to view online usage explanation...
Gil.
On 6/21/05, Carlos A Bodra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What command can display cache size and Fast Write Status for a 3990-6 (or
similar) in
The concept of Name/Token pairs is aesthetically pleasing and obviously
less likely to get you into trouble, but has anyone done any serious
study on the cost of using this service?
I will confess that we have used and continue to use TCBUSER field as an
anchor for some persistent
Brendan Friel
312/557-1521 To: IBM Mainframe
I saw a reference on the list that JBB7727 (Console restructure/enhancements)
was required to run an OSA-ICC.
Can anyone confirm or deny this?
I'm running z/OS 1.4 with z990 exploitation support but do not have JBB7727 on.
We plan on testing our new z990 this weekend with OSA-ICC.
Thanks
The usage domains do match the LPARs. That was a recommendation that I
found in the Installation Redbook. One other thing. If I set up the keys
in 1 LPAR can the other LPAR use them or do I have to go through the
process for each LPAR?
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion
Dear all,
Is Z990 Compatibility needed if we are running under VM on the Z/890 we are
migrating to ?.
Is it just a series of fixes for z/990 and z/890 processors such as are
listed in the PSP buckets ?.
Crispin Hugo
Systems Programmer, Macro 4
http://www.macro4.com/
Macro 4 plc, The Orangery,
In our case, it seemed to be a 3480 vary timeout that
affected our OSA. Our OSA is an OSA-Express FENET running
SNA only on z/OS 1.4. We've had this happen twice now, and
each time it sets the XCA PU's IINOP. So far, IBM refuses to
believe that the errors are related.
Do
AFAIK the z990 compatibility (no longer available) and z990 Exploitation
support is required if you are going to run on a z990 (and I assume z890). The
Exploitation support is NOT a series of PTF's but is a separate orderable
package from Shop zSeries (or however you order). You will not have
If there are installations that have this problem, I can't help but feel
this must be due to some inappropriate data set naming conventions. We
got started on MVS late enough (1985) that we were able to create data
set naming conventions with RACF in mind and enforce data set naming
The following xtract says what z990 exploitation will give me. I have no
need for any of the following. Is there any other reason I might need it ?
Can anybody tell me what z/990 Compatability would have given me, if it was
still around.
With z/OS(r) V1.4 z990 Exploitation Support feature, you
We are using OSA-ICC on our Z/890 without JBB7727 installed. Seems to
work fine for us on z/OS 1.4.
Porowski, Ken wrote:
I saw a reference on the list that JBB7727 (Console restructure/enhancements)
was required to run an OSA-ICC.
Can anyone confirm or deny this?
I'm running z/OS 1.4 with
Thanks, one less thing to worry about Ken
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Steve Arnett
We are using OSA-ICC on our Z/890 without JBB7727 installed. Seems to
work fine for us on z/OS 1.4.
Porowski, Ken wrote:
I saw a reference on the list that JBB7727 (Console restructure/enhancements)
was
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/20/2005
at 09:31 PM, Clark Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
1. There must be a path from EBCDIC to either Unicode or the full
ISO 10646 character set for all scripting languages, compiler source,
internal names, etc.
Yes, preferably with transparent handling of
Dead on.
At point of failure, files that are closed are perfect, but the files
that are open are unusable. How can you tell which is which?
The DASD Redbooks are very clear. There is no free lunch. Mirroring is
an excellent solution for a number of potential problems. But not all.
HTH and
On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:49:22 -0500, Ward, Mike S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The usage domains do match the LPARs. That was a recommendation that I
found in the Installation Redbook. One other thing. If I set up the keys
in 1 LPAR can the other LPAR use them or do I have to go through the
process
z990 Compatibilty Support allowed a customer to define the new processor
type 2084 (z990) or 2086 (z890) from an existing processor using HCD and
then run z/OS on the new processor without taking advantage of new z900
features. The new z990 features would be available under Exploitation
Support.
Paul, that's a great help. The old systems we run to support our customers
Will be ok. We have no intention of exploiting any z900 features.
Crispin Hugo
Systems Programmer, Macro 4
http://www.macro4.com/
Macro 4 plc, The Orangery, Turners Hill Road, Worth, Crawley, RH10 4SS
Direct Line: +44
* Computer Associates announces it will create its first worldwide
Mainframe Center of Excellence in Prague.
http://www.zjournal.com/News.asp?NewsID=1242
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With respect to the same subject, I would like to know if anybody uses
any of these change management packages with NATURAL.
Thanks
Nat
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/21 12:03 PM
We use Change Man from Serena Software.
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Not to mention the other language copy members there (IEANTC, IEANTPAS,
IEANTPLI).
BTW, the C language sample in SYS1.SAMPLIB(IEANTC) has an error in the
#pragma's for the 64-bit IEANT functions:
They are each declared as linkage(...,OS64_NOSTACK), but OS64_NOSTACK is
not a supported option of
This is no longer a technical issue. It is political.
RMF III has a degradation analyzer built it. By dataset IIRC.
Meanwhile, keep pushing for some supporting doc from the programmer.
Insist that you can't take the problem to IBM without such.
Use this as a justification to acquire a
On Jun 21, 2005, at 4:29 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote:
Not to mention the other language copy members there (IEANTC, IEANTPAS,
IEANTPLI).
BTW, the C language sample in SYS1.SAMPLIB(IEANTC) has an error in
the
#pragma's for the 64-bit IEANT functions:
They are each declared as
Maybe - maybe not.
Do you have any plans to Power-on the new machine ???.
If so you'll need an IOCP/HCD deck. If you want to generate that in
advance, you'll need the maint.
HCD at 1.4 wouldn't recognise the new kit. The (separate) Compatibility
option is no longer offered - it's all been rolled
Hal,
I'm not so certain that you are agreeing to the same point that Skip is
making. I take Skip's point as meaning that the success of any Remote Copy
design requires attention to the creation of IO consistency in the event of
a failure.
On the other hand your point to me applies to the ability
Carlos,
You can also look in ISMF...
Ron
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Carlos A Bodra
Sent: Wednesday, 22 June 2005 1:10 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Displaying Cache value for 3990-6
Hi,
What command
Sorry Shane,
You must have missed the first note. We use VM, I don't use HCD so no probs.
t
Crispin Hugo
This email has been scanned for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Email
Security Service and the Macro 4 plc
Maybe it's a redundancy.
I suggest CA locate this center in a fortress ...
Jim
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Sent: 22 Jun 2005 06:59
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Subject: OXYMORON ?
* Computer Associates announces it
I'd like to put in a plug for ISPW. We installed it to replace a better
known product from a well known vendor. ISPW the company gives good service
and is very responsive to the occasional problem that we report. Best of
all, ISPW the product sits well on the operating system because its
Not true, I've been in 3 HALON dumps back in the days it was THE method for
computer room FS. One must exit quickly as it will make you short of breath
at high enough concentrations since it displaces oxygen.
I can best describe the experience as running at 10,000 feet elevation.
it's certainly a play on words.
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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 4:59 PM
Subject: OXYMORON ?
* Computer Associates announces it will create its first worldwide
Mainframe
Hi,
I've taken an armature interest in computer security. I just flipped
through the book, Information Warfare, by Winn Schwartau. The book doesn't
appear to focus on mainframes per se but the material I've read so far could
apply to IBM machines.
The more the mainframe becomes a web server the
Hello Mark,
I dont see why they say that.
I still have Cisco CIP routers connected to my boxes...
I haven't changed their definitions, even though we have upgraded from
9672's to z900's to z990s.
I have both 3172 and SCTC coded for different connections.
They work...so I cant justify changing
Thanks for all Your replays !
Cwi Jeret - Bank Hapoalim - T.A.
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For those who might be interested (and might have missed it), today (June
21), IBM made an announcement for:
IBM Enterprise COBOL for z/OS V3.4 continues the integration of COBOL and
Web-oriented business processes
See:
Hi Listers,
We have an IBM 9672-R56 hardware. Is there any way we can
downsize it to a lower capacity so that we can use it for testing.
We understand that IBM has dropped marketing support for this
hardware.
Regards,
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