Re: Help needed with ICSF

2005-07-19 Thread De La Fuente Seivane, Victor
I forgot to say I'm using CCF. Is there any problem here? Best regards! Víctor de la Fuente Seivane -Mensaje original- De: Paul Hanrahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: lunes, 18 de julio de 2005 13:58 Para: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Asunto: Re: Help needed with ICSF You may

IXG601I loss of data

2005-07-19 Thread Julian Zhu
Hi Lister, When I issue /D logger,logstream in my sytem, I see following output: .. SYSPLEX.LOGREC.ALLRECS LOGRECSTRUCTURE 0004 LOSS OF DATA. .. This is a 4 way sysplex, that is maybe is 0004 come from. If I turn the LOGREC to DASD by setlogrc dataset, the same command output

User experiences TAPE/COPY

2005-07-19 Thread Lieven Borgs
Hi, Is there anyone out there who wants to share their experience with OPENTECH's TAPE/COPY program? I'm especially interested in media conversion (3490 - 3590) done with the product. Any experiences with the interfaces to CA-1, CA-DISK, ... Performance compared to other products, ... Issues,

Re: IXG601I loss of data

2005-07-19 Thread Barbara Nitz
The question is: 1. what is 0004 loss of data is? and why? With only the fragment of ixg601i the 0004 is probably the number of connections. But this is explained in detail in the message books. The most common cause for loss of data is if someone tampered with the offload data sets (for

Re: HCD OS options for 3592

2005-07-19 Thread R.S.
OFFLINE YES DYNAMIC YES LOCANYYES LIBRARY NO SHARABLE YES COMPACT YES AUTOSWITCH - NO, unless you want to use MIM, IEFAUTOS, or ATS LIBRARY-ID LIBPORT-ID MTL If you want to use MTL, then you should provide the values, otherwise just MTL NO and leave ID's blank. HTH -- Radoslaw

Re: EMC dasd question

2005-07-19 Thread R.S.
Horne, Jim - James S wrote: [...] ESCON is slower than FICON is slower than FICON Express is slower than FICON Express 2. [...] Is it true ? I mean the last one, that FICON Express is slower than FICON Express2. AFAIK Express works at 200MB/s (or 2Gpbs), what is the speed of Express2? 4Gbps

Re: Structured field definition

2005-07-19 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Dan Ponta Does anyone know what is the Structured field definition in the LU ? PSERVIC byte 1, bit 0 = 1. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: STAE/ESTAE

2005-07-19 Thread Wayne Driscoll
The best reference for this is in the Authorized Assembler Programming Guide, pub number SA22-7608-07 Which can be viewed online at http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IEA2A850/CCONTENT S?SHELF=IEA2BK51DN=SA22-7608-07DT=20040714145712 But in short, ESTAE is used to trap

Re: EMC dasd question

2005-07-19 Thread Birger Heede
IBM announcement letter (for US) # 105-012 states 170MBps for Express and 270MBps for Express2. The announcement is for z890 and z990. Birger Heede IBM Software Group R.S. wrote: Horne, Jim - James S wrote: [...] ESCON is slower than FICON is slower than FICON Express is slower than FICON

Re: [SMS] testing new SCDS configuration

2005-07-19 Thread Knutson, Sam
I have always made do with the ISMF ACS test facility and a bevy of test cases. I think Naviquest will let you do this in batch though I never set it up as the on-line ISPF tools were sufficient for my needs. If you have the luxury a separate test Sysplex and SMSPlex of course. Vendor product?

Re: Highly used programs: any better replacements out there?

2005-07-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/18/2005 at 07:59 AM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I may be able to top that. You;d have to do do better than a performance issue. The code in question modified an existing SMF exit to accomodate an IBM code change by swapping two Rx EQU definitions instead

Re: Highly used programs: any better replacements out there?

2005-07-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/18/2005 at 08:26 AM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Well, why is FIVE a magic number? If you're going to go to the trouble of using a variable, name the variable so that somebody else knows what it is, conceptually. AOL. Programmers should worry more about

Re: Highly used programs: any better replacements out there?

2005-07-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/18/2005 at 09:10 AM, Bill Fairchild [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Starting one's ALC career on a S/360 is a very good guess, as the S/360 would generate a program interrupt if you tried to do a LH or STH with an address that was not halfword aligned. Close; the

Re: Debug for z/OS

2005-07-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/18/2005 at 03:36 PM, Richards.Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I am thinking of ordering Debug for z/OS and changing COBOL Full Function to COBOL Alt. Does anyone know if this would be entirely transparent to the application programmers? How could it not be

Re: Highly used programs: any better replacements out there?

2005-07-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/18/2005 at 09:15 AM, Bill Fairchild [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: OK, I'll byte (pun intended). Why is LH r,=H'5' rather than LA r,5 atrocious? Extra cache hits and perhaps extra page hits. And why is LH r,FIVE with FIVE DC H'5' worse than atrocious? What does

Re: Question on LU6.2 trace - Request Header flags

2005-07-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/18/2005 at 10:19 AM, Mauri Kanter [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: If the bit is ON there seems to be 2 possibilities ... An FM header or an NS RU. Is there a way to know which one of the cases we are talking about ? You need to look at the RU type separately. Also, you

Re: Question on XSC IPSF utility

2005-07-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In !~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACABgASwWqHUN2CEahJwCdfqj/[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/18/2005 at 03:55 PM, geraldo barbosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Someone is familiary with XSC and XDC ipsf utilities? I suspect that what you are asking about is neither an ISPF facility nor

Re: Highly used programs: any better replacements out there?

2005-07-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/18/2005 at 01:35 AM, Bill Fairchild [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I don't understand this reply. What is the risk? The obvious one; collateral damage. I assumed, but did not state, that the person doing the patching had already checked the cross-reference list to

Re: Highly used programs: any better replacements out there?

2005-07-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/18/2005 at 12:00 AM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: DUH. Thanks for pointing that out. Whoosh! The code shown specifically used =H'5'. There is no case where that *specic* instruction could not have been written instead as an LA r,5. -- Shmuel

Re: STAE/ESTAE

2005-07-19 Thread mary george
Thanks Wayne. I have a further doubt on STAE, When will a STAE retry routine issue an abend? Wayne Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The best reference for this is in the Authorized Assembler Programming Guide, pub number SA22-7608-07 Which can be viewed online at

Re: Highly used programs: any better replacements out there?

2005-07-19 Thread Ted MacNEIL
... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Canadian BLACKBERRY said: DUH. Thanks for pointing that out. Whoosh! ... I didn't say it! I was quoting some of somebody else's text. It's almost getting to the point that including text from an OP is not worth it. Not just me; I have seen other people get quoted text

Re: STAE/ESTAE

2005-07-19 Thread Ted MacNEIL
... I have a further doubt on STAE, When will a STAE retry routine issue an abend? ... When will a COBOL programme write a record? When you tell it to. (8-{]} -teD In God we Trust! All others bring data! -- W. Edwards Deming

Re: GDPS Redbook

2005-07-19 Thread John Ticic
-- snip -- Personally I don't always have time to keep up with what's new in the Redbook series. To that end I have found some of Ed's recent postings / links to be extremely helpful - thanks. -- snip -- James, you don't have to wait until Ed posts to the list (thanks anyway Ed). You can

Re: STAE/ESTAE

2005-07-19 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 05:29:19 -0700 mary george [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Thanks Wayne. :I have a further doubt on STAE, :When will a STAE retry routine issue an abend? What are you trying to do? What do you expect the (E)STAE(X) routine to do? :Wayne Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :The best

Re: STAE/ESTAE

2005-07-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 04:56:49 -0700, mary george [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Can anyone throw light on the significance of STAE and ESTAE macro on error processing. Thanks in advance, Cheers, Mary Hmmm. Sounds suspiciously like a homework question. I can usually tell (I get them on

Re: Highly used programs: any better replacements out there?

2005-07-19 Thread Bill Fairchild
In a message dated 7/19/2005 7:26:58 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And why is LH r,FIVE with FIVE DC H'5' worse than atrocious? What does worse than atrocious mean and who[1] said that it was? You did. On 07/16/2005 Gerhard Postpischil said: And atrocities

Re: GDPS Redbook

2005-07-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 20:37:13 +0800, jamesfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I don't always have time to keep up with what's new in the Redbook series. To that end I have found some of Ed's recent postings / links to be extremely helpful - thanks. Why not subscribe to the weekly newsletter

JES2 and Abend S722

2005-07-19 Thread ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO
Hi all, I have some doubts on how to force S722 in a JES2 environment and i would like your help. a) Do you use EXIT09 or other method (ESTLNCT with OPT=1) ? b) Is EXIT43 also necessary when using EXIT09 ? TIA Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos Ituriel do Nascimento Neto Banco

Re: Highly used programs: any better replacements out there?

2005-07-19 Thread Bill Fairchild
In a message dated 7/19/2005 7:29:11 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I assumed, but did not state, that the person doing the patching had already checked the cross-reference list to see if the half word in the literal pool was used anywhere else where such a patch

Re: GDPS Redbook

2005-07-19 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: GDPS Redbook snip Why not subscribe to the weekly newsletter yourself?

Re: Highly used programs: any better replacements out there?

2005-07-19 Thread Bill Fairchild
In a message dated 7/19/2005 7:29:12 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The code shown specifically used =H'5'. There is no case where that *specic* instruction could not have been written instead as an LA r,5. You are correct. You are still missing my point.

Re: User experiences TAPE/COPY

2005-07-19 Thread Bruce Black
Is there anyone out there who wants to share their experience with OPENTECH's TAPE/COPY program? If you are evaluating it, I hope you will also evaluate equivalent products, such as Innovation's FATSCOPY (see our web site below for info). -- Bruce A. Black Senior Software Developer for FDR

capacity of largest drive

2005-07-19 Thread Steve Comstock
I've been trying to do a little research and I'm getting mixed results. What I would like to find is: what is the capacity of the largest logical 3390 model supported by z/OS? Figures I've seen range from 8.5 GiB to 55 GiB, from different sources. You folks are where the rubber meets the road,

Re: EMC dasd question

2005-07-19 Thread R.S.
Birger, Thank you, I just dowloaded performance report (see file gm130702.pdf) from IBM website. However it is not clear for me: Q1: Is it just card improvement or nominal speed is also improved ? I mean 4Gbps vs 2Gbps. I gues it's not changed. Q2: What devices are capable to use the higher

Re: GDPS Redbook

2005-07-19 Thread Bruce Black
You can subscribe and get the newest REDBOOKS, papers, .. sent directly to you. Not to worry, you get an email with links to the updated stuff, not the stuff itself. I find this really handy. Interesting items are quickly seen. I can put the email aside if I don[t have time to view them

Re: The clamor begins for IBM to give up the code for OS/2

2005-07-19 Thread Steve Comstock
Paul Gilmartin wrote: [snip] o How many Linucians would be impelled, even by open source, to convert to OS/2? Linucians? Wow, that's so much more erudite than Linux-heads. g Kind regards, -Steve Comstock -- For

Re: Highly used programs: any better replacements out there?

2005-07-19 Thread Rob Scott
Maybe this is a bit of a religious war - but I have always disliked LA Rx,integer - for maintainability (and readability) I would much prefer L Rx,=F'integer'. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Fairchild Sent: 19 July

Re: capacity of largest drive

2005-07-19 Thread Richards.Bob
Steve, As of z/OS 1.6, isn't it a logical mod-27 @ 32,760 cylinders or approximately 27GiB? Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 9:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU

Re: capacity of largest drive

2005-07-19 Thread R.S.
Steve Comstock wrote: I've been trying to do a little research and I'm getting mixed results. What I would like to find is: what is the capacity of the largest logical 3390 model supported by z/OS? Figures I've seen range from 8.5 GiB to 55 GiB, from different sources. You folks are where the

Re: The clamor begins for IBM to give up the code for OS/2

2005-07-19 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/18/2005 10:57:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: o IBM might have legal entanglements with contractors (perhaps even with Microsoft?) that preclude redistributing OS/2 source code. That would be a formidable obstacle. Guess I was thinking more

Re: capacity of largest drive

2005-07-19 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: capacity of largest drive I've been trying to do a little research and I'm getting mixed results.

Re: The clamor begins for IBM to give up the code for OS/2

2005-07-19 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: The clamor begins for IBM to give up the code for OS/2 Paul Gilmartin wrote: [snip]

Re: STAE/ESTAE

2005-07-19 Thread Craddock, Chris
I have a further doubt on STAE, STAE is obsolete, but still functional. You would never voluntarily choose to use STAE. IBM recommends ESTAEX. When will a STAE retry routine issue an abend? How long is a piece of string? There's no answer because its not a rational question. CC

Re: GDPS Redbook

2005-07-19 Thread Bill Fairchild
In a message dated 7/19/2005 7:53:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can subscribe and get the newest REDBOOKS, papers, .. sent directly to you. Look at http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/mail That link will let you alter what is sent to you if you have already

Re: capacity of largest drive

2005-07-19 Thread John P Kalinich
CKD DEVICES DATA ALT TRACKS/ BYTES/ BYTES/ BYTES/ DISK TYPE CYLS CYLS CYLTRACK CYL MODULE 3390-54 655200 1556,664 849,960 55,689,379,200

Re: capacity of largest drive

2005-07-19 Thread Rob Scott
AFAIK the so-called model-27 and model-54 are also informal names - they are just large capacity model-9 disks. There is nothing in the UCB or DCE to distinguish a 'model-27' from a model-9. The only indication is capacity - and in the days of short-genning logical volumes that is a very

Re: capacity of largest drive

2005-07-19 Thread Steve Comstock
John P Kalinich wrote: CKD DEVICES DATA ALT TRACKS/ BYTES/ BYTES/ BYTES/ DISK TYPE CYLS CYLS CYLTRACK CYL MODULE 3390-54 655200 1556,664 849,960 55,689,379,200 Thanks, John. That's what I was hoping

Re: The clamor begins for IBM to give up the code for OS/2

2005-07-19 Thread David Andrews
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 22:07 -0500, Ed Gould wrote: Plus if they did that might make LINUX less interesting especially if it really makes inroads into UNIX land. Only insofar as it adds another free competitor to the OS landscape. OS/2 and *nix aren't so alike. -- David Andrews A. Duda and

Re: capacity of largest drive

2005-07-19 Thread Lutz Hamann
In our DS8100 we defined here 65520 Cyls. (for z/OS 1.6, z/VM 5.1 and SLES9). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the

Re: Highly used programs: any better replacements out there?

2005-07-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Rob Scott said: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 09:53:49 -0400 Maybe this is a bit of a religious war - but I have always disliked LA Rx,integer - for maintainability (and readability) I would much prefer L Rx,=F'integer'. The maintainability issue has been made very

Re: capacity of largest drive

2005-07-19 Thread John P Kalinich
I believe it was discussed on IBM-MAIN after IBM made the announcement (65520 cyls). The model 27 and 54 numbers were derived by members of this listserv based on previous 3390 model device capacities. Regards, John Kalinich Computer Sciences Corp

Re: capacity of largest drive

2005-07-19 Thread John Eells
Steve Comstock wrote: I've been trying to do a little research and I'm getting mixed results. What I would like to find is: what is the capacity of the largest logical 3390 model supported by z/OS? Figures I've seen range from 8.5 GiB to 55 GiB, from different sources. You folks are where the

Re: The clamor begins for IBM to give up the code for OS/2

2005-07-19 Thread David Andrews
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 22:57 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: o IBM might have legal entanglements with contractors I'm thinking that IBM might have an entanglement with Serenity, which remarkets and enhances OS/2 as eComStation. See: http://www.ecomstation.com/ Also: the Windows code would

Re: User experiences TAPE/COPY

2005-07-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 04:14:17 -0500, Lieven Borgs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there anyone out there who wants to share their experience with OPENTECH's TAPE/COPY program? I'm especially interested in media conversion (3490 - 3590) done with the product. Any experiences with the interfaces to

Re: capacity of largest drive

2005-07-19 Thread Steve Comstock
John Eells wrote: [snip] Up to 64K cylinders are supported on DS6000 and DS8000 devices. From Preview: IBM z/OS V1.7 and z/OS.e V1.7: World-class computing for On Demand Business, IBM United States Software Announcement 205-034, dated February 15, 2005: TotalStorage® DS6000 and DS8000:

Re: HCD OS options for 3592

2005-07-19 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/19/2005 9:55:24 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thank you very much for the info. Back in the old days, I could ask IBM these kinds of things. Now I'm stuck with a BP that treats us like a stepchild. Maybe IBM and the list could work out some kind

Re: capacity of largest drive

2005-07-19 Thread R.S.
Steve Comstock wrote: [...] I still get a kick out the fact it would take more that 335,000,000 of these guys to back up one 64-bit AS, but the maximum number of page volumes supported is 253. I was mentioned several times. Yes, there is no enough DASD storage to page all 64-bit A/S. AFAIK

Re: capacity of largest drive

2005-07-19 Thread Jeffrey Deaver
I still get a kick out the fact it would take more that 335,000,000 of these guys to back up one 64-bit AS, but the maximum number of page volumes supported is 253. This should knock you over then 6,110,363,803,820,935,096,065,402,133 of them to backup the new 128 bit ZFS file system from

Re: The clamor begins for IBM to give up the code for OS/2

2005-07-19 Thread Ted MacNEIL
http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20050718 -teD In God we Trust! All others bring data! -- W. Edwards Deming -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the

Re: STAE/ESTAE

2005-07-19 Thread Rolf Ernst
How long is a piece of string? The purpose of a recovery routine is to recover from a situations that you have otherwise not programmatically not catered to. If no such recovery is possible, i.e. a request cannot be retried, you cannot figure out what is going on in the first place or manual

Re: capacity of largest drive

2005-07-19 Thread Bill Fairchild
In a message dated 7/19/2005 9:15:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is nothing in the UCB or DCE to distinguish a 'model-27' from a model-9. The only indication is capacity - and in the days of short-genning logical volumes that is a very unreliable way of

Re: capacity of largest drive

2005-07-19 Thread Porowski, Ken
So which is it 64Ki (65536) or 65520 (from z/OS point of view - disk hardware vendors may have other limitations)? Ken -Original Message- John Eells big snip Up to 64K cylinders are supported on DS6000 and DS8000 devices. From Preview: IBM z/OS V1.7 and z/OS.e V1.7: World-class

RiP/EIGRP mainframe migration

2005-07-19 Thread Philip Miscione
All We planning to change our network routing protocol from Rip to EIGRP. This will enable better management of network addressing and allow for faster convergence during network failures. Currently our mainframe is running form of Rip and learning routes from the network(OROUTED). We would

Re: capacity of largest drive

2005-07-19 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Steve Comstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... John P Kalinich wrote: CKD DEVICES DATA ALT TRACKS/ BYTES/ BYTES/ BYTES/ DISK TYPE CYLS CYLS CYLTRACK CYL MODULE 3390-54 65520

Re: capacity of largest drive

2005-07-19 Thread Ted MacNEIL
... I was mentioned several times. Yes, there is no enough DASD storage to page all 64-bit A/S. AFAIK MVS still menas Multiple Virtual Space (Multiple = 32k), so you can multiply your abstract number by 32k and that way get more abstract number ... I still think that this argument is specious.

Re: capacity of largest drive

2005-07-19 Thread Bill Fairchild
In a message dated 7/19/2005 10:08:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AFAIK MVS still menas Multiple Virtual Space Close. It means Multiple Virtual Storage. Each view of virtual storage was named an Address Space. Bill Fairchild

Re: STAE/ESTAE

2005-07-19 Thread Craddock, Chris
The purpose of a recovery routine is to recover from a situations that you have otherwise not programmatically not catered to. That's only one of the things a recovery routine is for. The primary purpose is to collect diagnostic information so that a carbon-based recovery analysis routine

External Time Source - 9037 RISC UNIX

2005-07-19 Thread Gabe Torres
Hello List, I am looking to connect the z900 to an external time source. I will re-activate the 9037-2 Sysplex Timers, (once used when we had multiple processors), to use modem dialup to ACTS in Boulder, CO. The UNIX Group is getting Time off the Internet using NTP. They indicate I can

Re: capacity of largest drive

2005-07-19 Thread Bruce Black
The DCE (UCB DASD Class Extension) has two different halfword fields indicating capacity. It would appear that the next model larger in capacity than the model 54 with 65520 cylinders will push the envelope off its edge. The problem is not the DCE, it is the CCWs. In all disk CCWs,

Re: capacity of largest drive

2005-07-19 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Fairchild Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 10:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: capacity of largest drive snip The DCE (UCB DASD Class Extension) has two different

Re: Highly used programs: any better replacements out there?

2005-07-19 Thread Bill Fairchild
In a message dated 7/19/2005 9:22:04 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yet, I prefer L Rx,=A(equated-symbol) so the equated symbol may be used in other contexts, such as storage declarations. Another reason why I also prefer this technique is so the equated symbol

Re: JES2 and Abend S722

2005-07-19 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 19, 2005, at 8:23 AM, ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO wrote: Hi all, I have some doubts on how to force S722 in a JES2 environment and i would like your help. a) Do you use EXIT09 or other method (ESTLNCT with OPT=1) ? b) Is EXIT43 also necessary when using EXIT09 ? TIA The

Re: STAE/ESTAE

2005-07-19 Thread Bill Fairchild
In a message dated 7/19/2005 7:29:34 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When will a STAE retry routine issue an abend? You have to write your own STAE, ESTAE, or ESTAEX routine. If you choose to put an ABEND macro inside that routine, then your STAE routine

Re: capacity of largest drive

2005-07-19 Thread John Baker
ECKD architecture provides for a maximum track (head) number of 65535. It also provides for a maximum track capacity of 16777215 bytes. All things considered, the maximum configuration for a single addressable device is 2**56 bytes - 2*32 bytes. The number of records per track is limited to

Re: The clamor begins for IBM to give up the code for OS/2

2005-07-19 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 19, 2005, at 9:48 AM, David Andrews wrote: On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 22:57 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: o IBM might have legal entanglements with contractors I'm thinking that IBM might have an entanglement with Serenity, which remarkets and enhances OS/2 as eComStation. See:

Re: Highly used programs: any better replacements out there?

2005-07-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Bill Fairchild said: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 12:04:30 EDT techniques. I don't see an extra page fault as a big performance hit unless the code is being executed a huge number of times per second. It is a fine If the code is executed a huge number of times per

Re: External Time Source - 9037 RISC UNIX

2005-07-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Gabe Torres said: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 09:00:16 -0700 Has anybody on the List connected to RISC/UNIX for their ETS ? Any insight on doing this ?? Not I, but I understand the recommended technique is to connect the EIA-232 port on the ETR to the RISC/UNIX

Re: The secret to multi-volume, non-SMS, DASD allocations?

2005-07-19 Thread Kirk Talman
Or more likely, UNIT=(SYSDA,8) UNIT=(SYSDA,2) Bob -Original Message- From:IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Grimes Sent:Tuesday, July 19, 2005 12:49 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: The

Re: capacity of largest drive

2005-07-19 Thread Chris Langford
But, all disk CCws also have a module number in the seek address that is now unused. Only device I know of that used it was the 'Noodle Snatcher' 2321? which was supported by MVT. So isn't it just a matter of reinserting code to increment the module number ?? :))) Chris Bruce Black wrote:

Re: The secret to multi-volume, non-SMS, DASD allocations?

2005-07-19 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 19, 2005, at 11:48 AM, Steve Grimes wrote: Hello, z/OS 1.4 with non SMS, 3380 SYSDA here! Is there some secret to multi-volume allocations that I don't know? Basically, this JCL: //SORTOUT DD DSN=TEMP,DISP=(,PASS), //UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=(,,,8), //

Re: External Time Source - 9037 RISC UNIX

2005-07-19 Thread Alan C. Field
Gabe, I read Paul's suggestion. Unless you can find the code to emulate the Boulder time signal that sounds like a lot of work. You don't say what version of z/OS you're running. We used Ken Clapp's NTP server but on z/OS 1.6 there is a SNTP component of TCPIP. I'd recommend you dial out

Measuring CPU time under USS in a C program

2005-07-19 Thread Jackson, Scott
All, (Cross posted to MVS-OE listserv) I'm looking for the most accurate method of tracking CPU usage in a specific task using C/C++ under z/OS UNIX System Services. Example: TASK A spawns TASK B. I want to measure the CPU usage for TASK B and all it's children. I'm currently using the

Re: capacity of largest drive

2005-07-19 Thread Bill Fairchild
In a message dated 7/19/2005 12:01:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But, all disk CCws also have a module number in the seek address that is now unused. Only device I know of that used it was the 'Noodle Snatcher' 2321? which was supported by MVT. The

Re: capacity of largest drive

2005-07-19 Thread Bruce Black
But, all disk CCws also have a module number in the seek address that is now unused. Only device I know of that used it was the 'Noodle Snatcher' 2321? which was supported by MVT. True for the SEEK CCW, which is still supported, but most disk I/Os use ECKD CCWs, where the LOCATE RECORD CCW

Re: capacity of largest drive

2005-07-19 Thread Blaicher, Chris
Actually the unused part of a disk address is the BIN number, also from the noodle snatcher. M is used for the extent number now. A full disk address is: MBBCCHHR Today, the BB field has to be zeros. Using those two bytes would effectively allow a 4G cylinder device, however there are some

ZDASD Response for Carlos Alberto Bodra

2005-07-19 Thread Bruce boda
Hi Carlos, This is Bruce Boda From The Ohio State University in Columbus Ohio, USA www.osu.edu http://www.osu.edu/ you can reach me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have been running ZDASD here for about a year connecting 2T of FBA storage to our Mainframe via fiber

Re: The clamor begins for IBM to give up the code for OS/2

2005-07-19 Thread Jon Brock
Brad Wardell! Stardock! Galactic Civilizations! Woohoo! Sorry. Got a little carried away there. Jon snip And speaking of Stardock, Brad Wardell has an interesting retrospective on the rise-and-fall of his OS/2 business. There's even some advice that can be taken to heart by some of us in

CBT Tape file 104 JRP

2005-07-19 Thread Richard Pinion
Has anyone successfully assembled, linked, and run the JRP system under z/OS 1.4 or higher? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO

Re: SAS V9.1.3

2005-07-19 Thread Rob Wunderlich
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 00:00:00 GMT, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... To avoid having the modules loaded into each address space which are large we put them in LPA ... I know the reasons, I have just been recommending against it for over 15 years. Still call SASLPA; just don't put it into

Defined Capacity vs. Capping

2005-07-19 Thread Porowski, Ken
Going to be turning on my new z990 this weekend (figures - now I hear IBM is about to announce some new boxes soon). Classically we have hard capped our 5 LPARs (contractual restrictions) but to me it seems that using 'defined capacity' would be beneficial. Only 'problem' I have is that it is

Re: SAS V9.1.3

2005-07-19 Thread Ted MacNEIL
... Why do you recommend against it? ... It's getting too big. The performance boost isn't worth it. I have other things that I would rather have in there. Where do you stop? EZTRIEV? Compilers? I see no purpose to putting SAS in the LPA, and I have used it since 1981. -teD In God we Trust!

Re: Defined Capacity vs. Capping

2005-07-19 Thread Ted MacNEIL
... Depending on my applications I could be strangling the late comer which is definitely not good. Whether this is worse than strangling the early bird and having overlap with the late comer is something I can't predict. ... IMO, I would go with the softcap. The hardcap would strangle

Re: Defined Capacity vs. Capping

2005-07-19 Thread Al Sherkow
Ken -- You are basically correct. you can have intervals above 50 as long as your 4-hour rolling average is below 50. You may be capped somewhat below 50MSUs, and this depends on the setup of the LPARs on the machine. To softcap the weights are enforced. If the weight works out to an MSU

Re: SAS V9.1.3

2005-07-19 Thread Staller, Allan
snip It's getting too big. The performance boost isn't worth it. I have other things that I would rather have in there. /snip I concur w/Ted,. but for different reasons, rooted in the history of MVS. Prior to the advent of the LLA address space, modules needed to be searched for in

Re: SAS V9.1.3

2005-07-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:20:27 -0500, Staller, Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip It's getting too big. The performance boost isn't worth it. I have other things that I would rather have in there. /snip I concur w/Ted,. but for different reasons, rooted in the history of MVS. There *might*

Displaying USS couple data sets information

2005-07-19 Thread Mark Yuhas
I can display the policy and format information of the ARM couple data sets via IXCMIAPU and the control statement of DATA TYPE(ARM) REPORT(YES). Is there any way to obtain similar information for USS couple data sets - TYPE(BPXCMDS)?

Re: SAS V9.1.3

2005-07-19 Thread Ted MacNEIL
... What about a SAS LPAR? We have an LPAR that primarily is used for SAS. ... Never had the luxury. Never had enough SAS users to justify this. -teD In God we Trust! All others bring data! -- W. Edwards Deming -- For

Re: SAS V9.1.3

2005-07-19 Thread Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc
Same here. SAS runs on seperated image due to software costs. Also using SASLPA. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Mark Zelden Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Juli 2005 23:17 An: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Betreff: Re: SAS V9.1.3

Workload License Charges IRD Seminar in Milwaukee

2005-07-19 Thread Al Sherkow
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Re: capacity of largest drive

2005-07-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/19/2005 at 03:54 PM, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: 8.5GiB was the largest physical model of 3390 family. It was model 9: 3390-9. For many year it was also largest emulated DASD volume. Shark broke the limit with so called model 27 (informal name), which is approx.

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