Re: Why CLOSE gets rc=4

2006-07-28 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 19:09:37 -0500 Paul Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :I have a AMODE 31 RMODE ANY program that dynamically allocates an existing :PDS with DISP=SHR and NDISP=KEEP. :I create a DCB in 24bit storage, and issue OPEN like this: :OPEN ((R3),INPUT),MODE=31 :The OPEN completes

Re: Looking for non-English text (UTF-16) for lab data

2006-07-28 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUB 34)
German people names: - Mäxchen Möchtegerngroß (= little Max and would-like-to-be-big) German company names: - Bärendienst Betrügerei GmbH (= disservice swindle GmbH) French people names: - François Noël (= Francis Christmas) French company names: - Ci-et-Ça Gâteaux, Cadeaux

IBM Redbook: Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics

2006-07-28 Thread Timothy Sipples
There's a great deal of attention now paid to helping new mainframe customers and new mainframe professionals begin learning. Toward that end here's a great starting point, Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics. I would recommend passing this book along to anyone you know who is new to

Re: PAX command not found

2006-07-28 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUB 34)
If you still want to run pax via IKJEFT01, simply add a - sign at the end of the oshell line to tell TSO the command is continued on the next line. Have a deeper look at the SYSTSPRT output of the failing job and you will recognize TSO treats each line as a separate command (there's a READY

Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-28 Thread Jim McAlpine
Rob, do you run this directly from TSO. Jim McAlpine On 7/25/06, Rob Wunderlich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 16:25:00 +0100, Jim McAlpine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are ther any CVS clients available that allow source to be brought into PDS datasets as opposed to HFS file

Data set ENQueues and DEQueues in Jobs

2006-07-28 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUB 34)
We've got some discussion here about DSN ENQueueing and DEQueueing in batch jobs. Is is my understanding and experience that the initiator will ENQ on all data sets referenced in the JCL (all steps) at job initiation time. The job will not start even the first step before all ENQs have been

remote copy: AIX vs MVS

2006-07-28 Thread R.S.
I was told that IBM recommends for p/Series platform software mirroring over hardware based remote copy (like PPRC). Q1. Is it true ? Q2. What are the advanages of using OS features over remote copy solutions provided by DASD hardware ? I was told, that OS mechanisms provide 'seamless' failover

Re: cant delete uncataloged file

2006-07-28 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
We had a user trying to delete a cluster. He dropped the period between the HLQ and second node. Rather than ignoring the request as malformed, the HLQ got deleted! That, IMHO, is a major faux pas! Daniel McLaughlin ZOS Systems Programmer Crawford Company PH: 770 621 3256 * Everything

Re: List of instructions by architecture level?

2006-07-28 Thread Peter Relson
a program can determine which hardware features are guaranteed to be available by testing the level of the operating system in the CVT. And a program can determine which hardware features happen to be available by checking bits in the facilities list (FLCFACL in IHAPSA, FlceFacilitiesList

Re: Looking for non-English text (UTF-16) for lab data

2006-07-28 Thread Steve Comstock
Hunkeler Peter (KIUB 34) wrote: German people names: - Mäxchen Möchtegerngroß (= little Max and would-like-to-be-big) German company names: - Bärendienst Betrügerei GmbH (= disservice swindle GmbH) French people names: - François Noël (= Francis Christmas) French company

Re: IBM Redbook: Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics

2006-07-28 Thread Steve Comstock
Timothy Sipples wrote: There's a great deal of attention now paid to helping new mainframe customers and new mainframe professionals begin learning. Is there? Funny, I haven't noticed that. -Steve Comstock Toward that end here's a great starting point, Introduction to the New Mainframe:

Re: IBM Redbook: Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics

2006-07-28 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
I've downloaded this and am looking through it. Kind of interesting! Daniel McLaughlin ZOS Systems Programmer Crawford Company PH: 770 621 3256 * Everything comes to him who hustles while he waits. ? Thomas A. Edison

Re: IBM Redbook: Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics

2006-07-28 Thread Bob Shannon
There's a great deal of attention now paid to helping new mainframe customers and new mainframe professionals begin learning. Is there? Funny, I haven't noticed that. Most everyone else has. Bob Shannon Rocket Software --

SEQUENCE NUMBERS

2006-07-28 Thread John Dawes
I noticed that when I perform a FTP function from Mainframe (I am using FTP to retrieve jcls) to my pc I notice that sequence numbers appear on the file. How can I prevent these annoying sequence numbers from appearing on the output? Thanks Send instant messages to your online

Re: IBM Redbook: Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics

2006-07-28 Thread Gabriel Tully
On 7/28/06, Timothy Sipples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a great deal of attention now paid to helping new mainframe customers and new mainframe professionals begin learning. Mairst college is offereing some new z/OS certification courses (non-credit) through IDCP (Institute for Data

Re: SEQUENCE NUMBERS

2006-07-28 Thread R.S.
John Dawes wrote: I noticed that when I perform a FTP function from Mainframe (I am using FTP to retrieve jcls) to my pc I notice that sequence numbers appear on the file. How can I prevent these annoying sequence numbers from appearing on the output? It is a problem with ftp or file

Re: SEQUENCE NUMBERS

2006-07-28 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
You can delete them in your JCL file. On the command line enter 'NUM OFF'. Then enter c p'=' ' ' all 72 80 This will delete your sequence numbers. Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: SEQUENCE NUMBERS

2006-07-28 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Do the UNUM and store the FTP commands as a PDS member is how we do it. Daniel McLaughlin ZOS Systems Programmer Crawford Company PH: 770 621 3256 * Everything comes to him who hustles while he waits. ? Thomas A. Edison

Re: SEQUENCE NUMBERS

2006-07-28 Thread Perryman, Brian
You don't need to edit them out, the UNNUM command does it for you. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Veilleux, Jon L Sent: 28 July 2006 13:20 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SEQUENCE NUMBERS You can delete them in your JCL

Re: remote copy: AIX vs MVS

2006-07-28 Thread Frank Krueger
Radoslaw Q1 - it depends -- also on the answer for Q2 Q2 - if the software knows here is a copy your application may just switch to the copy. In case of PPRC only the HW know and the application does not know it gets errors and may try to recover / restart or just fails . So in this sense i

Re: SEQUENCE NUMBERS

2006-07-28 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 7:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SEQUENCE NUMBERS I noticed that when I perform a FTP function from Mainframe (I am using FTP to

Re: SEQUENCE NUMBERS

2006-07-28 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Thanks, I'm just an old guy who learned how to delete them a long time ago. Does UNNUM also set NUM OFF? Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Perryman, Brian Sent: Friday, July

Re: SEQUENCE NUMBERS

2006-07-28 Thread Perryman, Brian
Yep! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Veilleux, Jon L Sent: 28 July 2006 13:52 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SEQUENCE NUMBERS Thanks, I'm just an old guy who learned how to delete them a long time ago. Does UNNUM also

Re: Data set ENQueues and DEQueues in Jobs

2006-07-28 Thread Gilbert Saint-Flour
On Friday 28 July 2006 04:42, Hunkeler Peter, KIUB 34 wrote: ... he once was told by an ISV that in a JES2 environment two jobs can be serialized on a certain step by coding a DISP=OLD/MOD DD for a data set in the step to be serialized. The jobs would then execute in parallel until they come

Re: Data set ENQueues and DEQueues in Jobs

2006-07-28 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:42:03 +0200, Hunkeler Peter (KIUB 34) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip My colleague claimes that he once was told by an ISV that in a JES2 environment two jobs can be serialized on a certain step by coding a DISP=OLD/MOD DD for a data set in the step to be seriallzed. The jobs

Re: Data set ENQueues and DEQueues in Jobs

2006-07-28 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
I've worked on MFT, MVT, and VS1, MVS, OS/390, and Z/OS and it seems like it's been that way since the planet cooled. Of course, old age and time have caused some data to be lost due to decaying storage media... Daniel McLaughlin ZOS Systems Programmer Crawford Company PH: 770 621 3256 *

Re: IBM Redbook: Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics

2006-07-28 Thread Jim McAlpine
Who is most everyone. I certainly haven't. Jim McAlpine On 7/28/06, Bob Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a great deal of attention now paid to helping new mainframe customers and new mainframe professionals begin learning. Is there? Funny, I haven't noticed that. Most everyone

Re: LOGR Files

2006-07-28 Thread Mark Zelden
Yes, I have a utility that uses the output of IXCMIAPU LIST LOGSTREAM and generates delete/define cards from the list. I wrote it for use at a disaster recovery site to quickly re-define all the logstreams since there was not a single (reliable) place where the source definitions could be

Re: Looking for non-English text (UTF-16) for lab data

2006-07-28 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Hunkeler Peter (KIUB 34) [ snip ] French product names: - pâte à gâteau (= cake mixture) There once was a product called Betty Crocker's Bake Mix, which one radio announcer transposed to Betty Baker's

Re: IBM Redbook: Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics

2006-07-28 Thread Bob Shannon
Who is most everyone. I certainly haven't. Have you been active in this forum? Have you attended SHARE or the zExpo in the last two years? Have you referenced IBM's website? Do you care about newbies? If the answer to these questions is no, then I believe you. Otherwise I find your comment hard

Re: Looking for non-English text (UTF-16) for lab data

2006-07-28 Thread Steve Comstock
Chase, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Hunkeler Peter (KIUB 34) [ snip ] French product names: - pâte à gâteau (= cake mixture) There once was a product called Betty Crocker's Bake Mix, which one radio announcer transposed to Betty

Re: Looking for non-English text (UTF-16) for lab data

2006-07-28 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Spoonerisms. my 2/100 of a US Dollar not adjusted for inflation or rising gas prices Daniel McLaughlin ZOS Systems Programmer Crawford Company PH: 770 621 3256 * Everything comes to him who hustles while he waits. ? Thomas A. Edison

Re: IBM Redbook: Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics

2006-07-28 Thread Jim McAlpine
The only one of those questions to which I would answer no is the one about SHARE/Expo because I work in the UK. I have been a member of this forum since January 2001 and would say I was a fairly active member but you might disagree. I do know that we now have a mainframe customer list which is

Re: SEQUENCE NUMBERS

2006-07-28 Thread John Dawes
Thanks to all who replied. I tried Jon's suggestion it worked. I also tried the UNNUM but I received the message :Not in Number mode. For the future, Do I have to keep doing the NUM OFF command? Is there a way of putting it in my ispf profile? Veilleux, Jon L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: IBM Redbook: Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics

2006-07-28 Thread Bob Shannon
I do know that we now have a mainframe customer list which is 10% the size it was 10-15 years ago. This is not a discussion about the future of the mainframe, whether the mainframe is a viable platform, or whether there are more windoze licenses than z/OS licenses. It started with this quote

Re: SEQUENCE NUMBERS

2006-07-28 Thread Tonni J Ottosen
Hi - I deleted the first mails of this thread before I remembered this way of doing it (you would put from MF would'nt you?): type e cd 'myuser' lcd 'myuser' sendsite site LRECL=72 RECFM=FB BLKSIZE=7200 put ispf.cntl(acftap) testtrun.a quit Venlig hilsen Tonni Ottosen CSC Danmark A/S

Re: IBM Redbook: Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics

2006-07-28 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
I believe that IBM is looking for other companies to work with their Academic Initiatives program. They need companies willing to accept interns and possibly offer full time jobs to the students involved in the colleges that are offering mainframe training. Also they are looking for people willing

Re: SEQUENCE NUMBERS

2006-07-28 Thread David Cole
At 7/28/2006 09:25 AM, you wrote: Thanks to all who replied. I tried Jon's suggestion it worked. I also tried the UNNUM but I received the message :Not in Number mode. use ren;unnum. This will blank out cols. 73-80 regardless of what's there. Dave Cole REPLY TO: [EMAIL

Re: SEQUENCE NUMBERS

2006-07-28 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Hit 'HELP' on the edit main menu and read the section on 'EDIT PROFILES' it will tell you how to get this set up the way you want it to work, including saving the NUMBER OFF setting. Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: SEQUENCE NUMBERS

2006-07-28 Thread Steve Comstock
John Dawes wrote: Thanks to all who replied. I tried Jon's suggestion it worked. I also tried the UNNUM but I received the message :Not in Number mode. If you are not in num mode, you can issue this sequence of commands: num on std unnum num off For the future, Do I have to keep

Re: IBM Redbook: Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics

2006-07-28 Thread Jim McAlpine
Sorry, I obviously didn't pay enough attention to the original post and I'm glad to hear of some young blood coming in to the profession. I just hope that the platform is around long enough for your new recruit to continue working in it. BTW did you see the picture of the sysprog in the

Problem with PCOMM Font Size

2006-07-28 Thread Ulrich Boche
I'm currently using PCOMM 5.8 but this problem has already occurred on older releases. In all of my host sessions, I'm always using a fixed font: IBM3270 12X16 pixels. However, it happens again and again that PCOMM resets the font to Automatic sizing with an ugly font in a size far too small

Re: Problem with PCOMM Font Size

2006-07-28 Thread Kreiter, Chuck
Look for a file called pcswin.ini on your local PC. This is the file that stores the fonts, window settings, etc. I'd guess it's read only preventing from saving your settings or it is being refreshed on your PC by your PFCSK's. Chuck Kreiter Lead Systems Programmer State Auto Insurance

Re: Blocksize and speed limit on an FICON channel

2006-07-28 Thread Bruce Black
For DR type of restore you have to get the streaming right - probably what you allude to when you mention getting the JCL right. ExHPDM has code to try and optimize the tape usage. For example, if you open one client file (one backup) and ExHPDM starts reading the stream file (actual tape),

Re: Data set ENQueues and DEQueues in Jobs

2006-07-28 Thread Bruce Black
Is is my understanding and experience that the initiator will ENQ on all data sets referenced in the JCL (all steps) at job initiation time. The job will not start even the first step before all ENQs have been granted. So a job might be WAITING FOR DATASETS even if the one not yet available is

Re: Data set ENQueues and DEQueues in Jobs

2006-07-28 Thread Staller, Allan
snip My colleague claimes that he once was told by an ISV that in a JES2 environment two jobs can be serialized on a certain step by coding a DISP=OLD/MOD DD for a data set in the step to be seriallzed. The jobs would then execute in parallel until they come to that specific step. They also

Re: Data set ENQueues and DEQueues in Jobs

2006-07-28 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
We had a usermod that changed all shared ENQs to exclusive when a dataset was opened for update. It might even have been on the CBT mods tape. Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: IBM Redbook: Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics

2006-07-28 Thread Bryan Turriff
I don't think there is much fear about the platform going away (at some companies perhaps but not on a wide scale). I don't think that from an IBM perspective that the mainframe has lost 85% of its customers in the last 15 years. The mainframe is clearly struggling to attract new workloads

Re: IBM Redbook: Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics

2006-07-28 Thread A. Harry Williams
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 09:51:48 -0400 Veilleux, Jon L said: I believe that IBM is looking for other companies to work with their Academic Initiatives program. They need companies willing to accept interns and possibly offer full time jobs to the students involved in the colleges that are offering

Re: Data set ENQueues and DEQueues in Jobs

2006-07-28 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 09:39:15 -0500, Staller, Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is indeed true. However, it is not the initiatior that does the enqueues it is allocation. Right. Recently verified this in the longest PMR (amount of written text, traces, etc.) I ever was invovled in. Also the

Re: IBM Redbook: Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics

2006-07-28 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
I was invovled in the first teacher the teachers last year along with one of my collegues here at Aetna. The professors were very interested in expanding their mainframe courses and learning the details of the OS. Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 -Original Message-

Re: PCOMM Macro Doesn't Work First Time

2006-07-28 Thread Edward Jaffe
Ulrich Boche wrote: I've recorded a macro in PCOMM 5.8 for ELF (Express Logon Feature) purposes. The macro and the whole ELF stuff are working fine; however the macro always fails on the first connection attempt after starting the PCOMM window. If I disconnect and connect again, the macro is

Re: IBM Redbook: Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics

2006-07-28 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
If we want to reach out to the younger set, aside from college, is there any way to work through user groups and have Info days? The market seems (my opinion) to be flooded with new A+ and CNA types because high schools are cranking them out. Maybe we could lure some of them from the Dark Side

Re: Data set ENQueues and DEQueues in Jobs

2006-07-28 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/28/2006 9:41:40 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am not familiar enough w/JES3 to make a useful comment JES3 introduced /*NET many moons ago that will serialize jobs in the NET. Seems like they fixed it about the same time they broke SMB(speed

Re: IBM Redbook: Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics

2006-07-28 Thread Ted MacNEIL
There's a great deal of attention now paid to helping new mainframe. IMO, anyone who disputes this hasn't been paying attention. There's a difference between 'attention now paid' and 'action being taken'! I see more sizzle than steak. When in doubt. PANIC!!

Re: 2105 to 2107 Migration Question

2006-07-28 Thread Howard Rifkind
Hal, I just went thru this 2 weeks ago. Can you get your hands on FDRPAS? Worth every cent you pay for it. We used it in prime time on an MP300/H-50, which is much slower then the box you have. I did it in prime time and it was a piece of cake, no one even know I was

Re: cant delete uncataloged file

2006-07-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/27/2006 at 01:21 PM, Ginnie Nuckles [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: we have something called dptech .. I have been able to mark it unowned by SMS and redefine the dsorg as AM. After doing this I created a racf id and did an import connect of it Why? You're making

APF Authorized Code/Libraries.

2006-07-28 Thread Howard Rifkind
I just installed a new program and one of the instructions states to run the code in a particular library as APF authorized. I'm sort of confused about this. Is it o.k. to just add this library to the PROG00 member and then use some sort of SETSYS command to refresh PROG00? A

Re: APF Authorized Code/Libraries.

2006-07-28 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 10:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: APF Authorized Code/Libraries. I just installed a new program and one of the instructions states

Re: APF Authorized Code/Libraries.

2006-07-28 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 10:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: APF Authorized Code/Libraries. There are two ways: OK, I can't count! 1) update your

Re: APF Authorized Code/Libraries.

2006-07-28 Thread Jeffrey D. Smith
== -Original Message- From: Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 7/28/2006 9:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: APF Authorized Code/Libraries. I just installed a new program and one of the instructions states

Re: Looking for non-English text (UTF-16) for lab data

2006-07-28 Thread Ray Mullins
Some more ligatures and accents... From France, Cæsar Cœuresseulé (Caesar Lonelyheart) From Brasil or Portugal, Joãoinho São João (Johnny St. John) From the Czech Republic, although this is probably grammatically incorrect, as I know only one Czech word: Praha sušenky (Prague Cookies) From

Re: Getting a list of MCS and Extended MCS Consoles

2006-07-28 Thread David Cole
Thanks Sam, That's pretty much what I was looking for. [:)] Dave At 7/27/2006 04:25 PM, you wrote: Hi Dave, Look at SYS1.MACLIB(IEEQEMCS). Best Regards, Sam Knutson, GEICO Performance and Availability Management mailto:[EMAIL

Re: APF Authorized Code/Libraries.

2006-07-28 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind I just installed a new program and one of the instructions states to run the code in a particular library as APF authorized. I'm sort of confused about this. Is it o.k. to just add

Re: IBM Redbook: Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics

2006-07-28 Thread Ray Mullins
During the zNextGen monthly call yesterday, someone mentioned that the number of z/OS sysprog jobs on Dice has grown a lot in the past few months. Ray -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Shannon Sent: Friday July 28 2006 06:45

Re: Looking for non-English text (UTF-16) for lab data

2006-07-28 Thread Steve Comstock
Ray Mullins wrote: Some more ligatures and accents... From France, Cæsar Cœuresseulé (Caesar Lonelyheart) From Brasil or Portugal, Joãoinho São João (Johnny St. John) From the Czech Republic, although this is probably grammatically incorrect, as I know only one Czech word: Praha

Re: IBM Redbook: Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics

2006-07-28 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/28/2006 11:01:37 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dice has grown a lot in the past few months Umm, which way? Employers/positions or employees/seekers? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: Problem with PCOMM Font Size

2006-07-28 Thread Ray Mullins
Are you maximizing and restoring? PCOMM has some (IMHO) strange behavior in this area. It won't allow you to set the font if you're maximized. I set the font using a TrueType font (I use IBM3270) with the window not maximized and select Automatic Sizing (select IBM3270 in the list below the

Re: Data set ENQueues and DEQueues in Jobs

2006-07-28 Thread Edward Jaffe
Staller, Allan wrote: I am not familiar enough w/JES3 to make a useful comment. The initiator (IEFIIC) is not a JES program! It does what it does without regard to the type of job entry subsystem in use. As stated previously by others, the data set ENQs are acquired at job initiation

Re: Looking for non-English text (UTF-16) for lab data

2006-07-28 Thread Ray Mullins
(off-list) Hi Steve, Change that last one to Ñoñosrodéanme. The first one means I surround by idiots, which isn't right any way you look at it. Later, Ray -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Friday July

Re: IBM Redbook: Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics

2006-07-28 Thread Ray Mullins
It wasn't said, but I interpreted it to mean positions. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Finnell Sent: Friday July 28 2006 09:05 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Redbook: Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS

Re: IBM Redbook: Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics

2006-07-28 Thread Kuredjian, Michael
I'm happy you're hiring new grads to work on host systems. The knowledge we (university students) have isn't useless, it just has to be adapted to mainframes. Since universities have long since left that teaching arena, you have two choices left: learn on the job or go through a technical

Re: IBM Redbook: Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics

2006-07-28 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
When I first got into IBM mainframes, having come off Honeywell and Burroughs, I had a mentor in my new boss. He coached me at every turn, gave me tasks that built up knowledge, and let me go to Share. Later, as we added in VM, I got some formal training. I've been banging around these things

Re: IBM Redbook: Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics

2006-07-28 Thread Mohammad Khan
If someone wants to interest new people to the platform, let them offer ACCESS to the platform. Reading material is surely required but is no subtitute for a system one can try things on. Easy availability is a big part of the reasons of flooding in other platforms. With all the talk ( and

BLKSIZE on a SYSOUT dataset

2006-07-28 Thread Steve Grimes
Hello, z/OS 1.4, DB2 7.1 here, with a simple low-priority Friday question! I want to write the output of a DB2 PM report to disk so I can do some post-processing on it. If I leave the BLKSIZE off, or code DCB=BLKSIZE=0, I get a BLKSIZE of 6251 on the LRECL 133 dataset. Since this is going

Re: Looking for non-English text (UTF-16) for lab data

2006-07-28 Thread Steve Comstock
Ray Mullins wrote: (off-list) Hi Steve, Change that last one to Ñoñosrodéanme. The first one means I surround by idiots, which isn't right any way you look at it. OK. Got it. -Steve Later, Ray -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: IBM Redbook: Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics

2006-07-28 Thread Gabriel Tully
On 7/28/06, Mohammad Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If someone wants to interest new people to the platform, let them offer ACCESS to the platform. Reading material is surely required but is no subtitute for a system one can try things on. Easy availability is a big part of the reasons of

Re: IBM Redbook: Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics

2006-07-28 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
IBM has run a mainframe contest (and will be running it again, I believe) where they gave access to a mainframe systems to the student participants. The response was overwhelming and the students were able to accomplish all of the tasks, some of them very complex. You are right that it is a matter

Re: APF Authorized Code/Libraries.

2006-07-28 Thread Bruce Black
Authorized programs should be reentrant (I'd like to know the reasons for a non-reentrant authorized programs -- eek!). Why do you think so? Authorization has no relation to reentrancy. -- Bruce A. Black Senior Software Developer for FDR Innovation Data Processing 973-890-7300 personal:

Re: IBM Redbook: Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics

2006-07-28 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 06:04:50 -0600, Steve Comstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Timothy Sipples wrote: There's a great deal of attention now paid to helping new mainframe customers and new mainframe professionals begin learning. Is there? Funny, I haven't noticed that. ... Well, you are in a

Re: BLKSIZE on a SYSOUT dataset

2006-07-28 Thread Bruce Black
I want to write the output of a DB2 PM report to disk so I can do some post-processing on it. If I leave the BLKSIZE off, or code DCB=BLKSIZE=0, I get a BLKSIZE of 6251 on the LRECL 133 dataset. Since this is going to a 3390, (yes we even still hard-code our vol-sers) wouldn't I better

IOCDS with VM and zOS LPARS

2006-07-28 Thread Marc Holiwell
I am currently running two LPARs (with zOS 1.4 as OSes) on a IBM 2086 model A04(220), and would like to know if it is possible to create an IOCDS that will support an LPAR with VM as the OS, and another LPAR with zOS as the OS...??? And if so, does anyone have examples...

Re: Data set ENQueues and DEQueues in Jobs

2006-07-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/28/2006 at 07:57 AM, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The first MVS I worked on was SP 1.3 + JES2 and it worked the way it does now. Perhaps an older-timer can tell you how it was before that. The Initiator has waited for the dataset ENQ all the way back to

Re: IOCDS with VM and zOS LPARS

2006-07-28 Thread Brian Peterson
What I did was simply define the LPAR partition for VM on the Processor List screen using the P line command. When VM IPLs, it automatically discovers everything it has access to, so unless you have some unusual device VM cannot automatically identify, it's not necessary to create an OS

Re: IOCDS with VM and zOS LPARS

2006-07-28 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc Holiwell Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 12:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: IOCDS with VM and zOS LPARS I am currently running two LPARs (with zOS 1.4 as OSes) on a IBM 2086

Re: APF Authorized Code/Libraries.

2006-07-28 Thread Tim Hare
There are two ways: OK, I can't count! To paraphrase: There are 11 kinds of people in the world, those who understand base 3, and those who don't Happy Friday Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209

Re: IBM Redbook: Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics

2006-07-28 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 28, 2006, at 9:47 AM, Bryan Turriff wrote: I don't think there is much fear about the platform going away (at some companies perhaps but not on a wide scale). I don't think that from an IBM perspective that the mainframe has lost 85% of its customers in the last 15 years. The

Re: cant delete uncataloged file

2006-07-28 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
Was the HLQ an alias pointing to a real user catalog? If so, recreating the alias should help. Aliases exist in the master catalog. Why did the user have update to it? -Original Message- From: Daniel A. McLaughlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 4:07 AM To:

Re: APF Authorized Code/Libraries.

2006-07-28 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tim Hare There are two ways: OK, I can't count! To paraphrase: There are 11 kinds of people in the world, those who understand base 3, and those who don't http://www.whysanity.net/monos/victor_borge.html

Re: SEQUENCE NUMBERS

2006-07-28 Thread David Cole
Hi John, When creating new members from scratch, you can setup your edit profile with the following command: PROF UNLOCK;NUM OFF;PROF LOCK Then any time you create a member under the control of this profile, it will be created without sequence numbers. ISPF EDIT supports named profiles.

Re: BLKSIZE on a SYSOUT dataset

2006-07-28 Thread Bruce Black
DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=133,BLKSIZE=0) rendered 6251 also. Then it may be hard coded in the DB2 utility -- Bruce A. Black Senior Software Developer for FDR Innovation Data Processing 973-890-7300 personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sales info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tech support: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web:

Re: BLKSIZE on a SYSOUT dataset

2006-07-28 Thread Steve Grimes
Hi Bruce! DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=133,BLKSIZE=0) rendered 6251 also. It's no biggie. I'm hardcoding the BLKSIZE now. I wanted to run it by the list just to see if I was crazy or something. Thanks. Stg Bruce Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: IBM Redbook: Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics

2006-07-28 Thread Imbriale, Don
Schools are like businesses - they will offer products and services that their customers want. The customers in this case are students, not necessarily businesses. Students need to be aware that jobs are available which require the requisite skills and then these students need to pressure

Re: BLKSIZE on a SYSOUT dataset

2006-07-28 Thread Brian Peterson
One more trick to try. DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=133,BLKSIZE=0,DSORG=PS) If the above trick does not work, this means that the application overrides JCL DCB attributes based upon logic which is not compatable with System Determined Blocksize (SDB). Brian On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 13:22:51 -0500, Steve

Displaying USS timezone for 1.4

2006-07-28 Thread Laine, Rogers
Can someone point me to a manual that explains how to display the timezone setting (CST, EST, etc) in USS. I changed the TZ parm in /etc/profile/ /etc/init.options to reflect CST0CDT0 to reflect no offset since our zos time is set the same for both LOCAL GMT and recycled SMTP but the sent time

Re: IBM Redbook: Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics

2006-07-28 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
I still think that if businesses inform schools that they need help in a particular area, the schools will respond by adjusting their curriculum. Maybe the real issue is that we in the large scale community have to put pressure on the trade magazines to stop writing about how the mainframe is

DCB= Not Needed (Was: BLKSIZE on a SYSOUT dataset)

2006-07-28 Thread Edward Jaffe
Steve Grimes wrote: DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=133,BLKSIZE=0) rendered 6251 also. Just an aside: For many years now, the DCB= keyword in the above specification has been gratuitous. Just code: RECFM=FB,LRECL=133,BLKSIZE=0 -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century

Re: BLKSIZE on a SYSOUT dataset

2006-07-28 Thread Steve Grimes
Ah -- that last tricked (adding DSORG=PS) worked. Thanks! Stg -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: Displaying USS timezone for 1.4

2006-07-28 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laine, Rogers Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 1:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Displaying USS timezone for 1.4 Can someone point me to a manual that explains how to display the

Re: BLKSIZE on a SYSOUT dataset

2006-07-28 Thread Brian Peterson
Here's why - from 3.2.3.1.2 System-Determined Block Size in DFSMS Using Data Sets: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- DASD Data Sets: When you create (allocate space for) a new DASD data set, the system derives the optimum block size and saves it in the data set label if all of the following are true:

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