Art Celestini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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I've been asked to explore the feasibility of reading standard-labeled
MVS tapes on other platforms. I know that 3580/90 devices can be
attached via Escon/Fiber Channel HBAs, and that IBM offers a device
driver for
Hi all!
I don't know if I'm getting mad. Some days ago one of my mates was able to
use the esoteric X5 for one allocation, but I'm almost sure it's
not defined in current IODF.
Is there any way of listing esoterics defined in current configuration?
Thank you very much!
Víctor de la Fuente [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL
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Hi all!
I don't know if I'm getting mad. Some days ago one of my mates was able to
use the esoteric X5 for one allocation, but I'm almost sure it's
not defined in current IODF.
Is there any way of
Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM wrote:
Víctor de la Fuente [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL
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Hi all!
I don't know if I'm getting mad. Some days ago one of my mates was able to
use the esoteric X5 for one allocation, but I'm almost sure it's
not defined in current IODF.
ED,
I think you are completely mischaracterizing SHARE. I attend SHARE
regularly and do not hesitate to mention something to IBM if I feel that
it is important, and neither do other SHARE members I know. SHARE is a
partnership with IBM, and the result has been ongoing improvements in a
wide range
Ed Gould wrote:
On Mar 22, 2007, at 10:40 AM, Steve Mann wrote:
Is anyone using either DTS Software's ACC (Alocation Control Center)
or Beta
System's Beta-55 product?
I have always thought BETA was a strange name for any product. IIRC
there are (or was) several one(s)? on the market.
I
Hi
If someone knows something about the Fault Anal IDIPDSCU (DSECT ) utility .
From the description, it is hard to find out how it should work
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Charles Mills wrote:
You're certainly right, and I'm not an IBM-basher. I think it's a great
organization (not without flaws -- no large organization is without large
flaws) but a great organization, and the IBM mainframe has provided a
rewarding (in several senses of the word) living for me,
I can show you my scars from an unplanned IPL last June caused by an
SMSPDSE failure:-( See APAR OA15185. Still I think my opinion of PDSE
is much more positive than yours. From our experience I can suggest a
few things.
If you are at z/OS R6 or higher consider use the restartable SMSPDSE
Yes, I know IODF is the best place; but I have already looked it and I could
find this esoteric. I'll try again, just in case I looked the wrong IODF...
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Is your allocation being overridden by SMS? What does the allocation
staement in your JCL say?
Jon L. Veilleux
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A thoughtful epistle according to Sam snipped;
A final thought is that running so lean and mean that finding 1/2 of a
CP suddenly occupied results in failure to meet business objectives is a
good argument to provision sufficient capacity for problems.
Mate, I have (what was) a multi-site
Are there any BMC Mainview mailing lists? So far I have not been able to find
any, just BMC sponsored user groups.
Thanks.
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Are there any BMC Mainview mailing lists? So far I have not been able
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find any, just BMC sponsored user groups.
Not that I am aware of.
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:01:22 -0400, Art Celestini
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been asked to explore the feasibility of reading standard-labeled MVS
tapes on other platforms. I know that 3580/90 devices can be attached via
Escon/Fiber Channel HBAs, and that IBM offers a device driver for
Víctor de la Fuente wrote:
Yes, I know IODF is the best place; but I have already looked it and I
could
find this esoteric. I'll try again, just in case I looked the wrong IODF...
D IOS,CONFIG will tell you current IODF.
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Shane sez
Mate, I have (what was) a multi-site customer that is migrating
off-platform for reasons of less than half an engine.
They wouldn't pay for an ICF, and wanted the M-thingies back from the
CF
LPARs.
M-thingies? You mean those meaningless indications of speed-thingies?
Eventually
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I will be out of the office starting 03/22/2007 and
Steve, I hear you, and I'm your biggest well-wisher. The problem with
training is it's exactly like the manuals.
If I KNEW in advance that IEARBC was the answer to a future problem I was
going to have, I would read that section of the manual. And if I KNEW in
advance that a particular course of
It seems to me that JES2 could CLOSE and reOPEN the PROCLIB and redrive
the job automatically instead of failing the poor user's job. If the
I/O error happened a second time, then JES2 could give up like today.
Ben Alford Enterprise Systems Programming
University of
We have successfully defined sequential terminals for this purpose, in
CICS/TS 2.2. It requires a TCT assembly - no RDO allowed for these.
Check the CICS Resource Definition Guide, Macro resource definition
section for TCT, Sequential devices and use the card reader/line printer
pair. We use them
Hi. Can anyone explain why I cannot access the info in this email.
If trying the access items in the contents list the url shows #S1 for the
first item and #S2 for the second, etc. For the items in the body of the
email the address shows cid---BAMA.UA.ED, etc.
The address to browse the
Charles Mills wrote:
Steve, I hear you, and I'm your biggest well-wisher. The problem with
training is it's exactly like the manuals.
If I KNEW in advance that IEARBC was the answer to a future problem I was
going to have, I would read that section of the manual. And if I KNEW in
advance that a
Thanks for the tip. FYI. I keep getting this error. Human Resource
Services Error
Thanks again,
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Greg,
I've forwarded your question about using DFSORT R14 on z/OS 1.7 to Vicky
Vezinaw, our installation person, and asked her to reply to you offline.
(I'm on vacation today.)
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Charles Mills wrote:
While we're here, I would like to politely dispute the IBMer's implication
(and I apologize for forgetting his name and for paraphrasing) that all you
have to do is code the macros as documented and all will be well. I would
suggest that one cannot write reentrant or
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 08:40:42 -0400, Craddock, Chris wrote:
Shane sez
Mate, I have (what was) a multi-site customer that is migrating
off-platform for reasons of less than half an engine.
They wouldn't pay for an ICF, and wanted the M-thingies back from the
CF LPARs.
M-thingies? You mean
The sequential terminal can only be used at CICS start-up (so I think
since we never used it any other way).
You can always front end the transaction to start as a non-terminal task
that invokes a terminal attached task.
Or issue a modify command to CICS, which should come in on console 0 (or
1
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Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 10:26 AM
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...)
snip
One GREAT example is the IBM macros'
The branch/jump issue turned into a thread of its own but it was intended to
be just one example of how using the macros as supplied is not the whole
answer.
What about the macros that at least in some unpredictable cases generate
gratuitously non-reentrant code?
Charles
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SHARE doesn't have near the impact that the zBLC has
Very true, and a major change from the old days. IBM sponsors the zBLC.
SHARE still has some influence with IBM, but the zBLC has major
influence. It's hard to fault IBM for listening to the customers who
spend the most money.
Bob Shannon
I just acquired what I believe to be an early 'green card'.
It's actually a white booklet, GX20-1727-5, 20 pages (back cover is page
20).
Title is IBM System/360 Reference Card - System/360 Model 20
I remember hearing/reading some trivia that the original 'green card'
was white.
Looks like
I believe so - I have one too somewhere
Remind me of this webpage
http://www.planetmvs.com/greencard/
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Hi,
Tom I agree that IBM needs to pay more attention to the needs of smaller
customers. Just for the record GEICO is not currently a member of the
zBLC. We count on direct interaction with IBM and IBM involvement with
SHARE where we work with IBM along with our peers some from small
companies
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I just acquired what I believe to be an early 'green card'.
It's actually a white
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I think IBM is investing in z/VM but new work is mostly in
z/VM as a virtualization hypervisor not z/VM as an
application platform. I know that doesn't make old school VM
folk happy but
Ed,
SHARE is a VOLUNTEER driven organization. If you feel that SHARE isn't
providing the support and drive to IBM that you feel is required,
instead of complaining from the sidelines, become a volunteer! How long
has it been since you have even attended SHARE?
Wayne Driscoll
Product Developer
The 360-20 was a unique system, with a much smaller set of instructions
than the rest of the 360 line. Hang on to that, there are probably very
few left
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On Mar 22, 2007, at 12:07 AM, Gerhard Adam wrote:
Where is SHARE? they are afraid to raise their voice to IBM.
Share is now a gofor for IBM. The management at SHARE is afraid
to say one word to IBM as they might pull out. Frankly it would be
better if SHARE got a spine but I don't see it
In a message dated 3/23/2007 12:14:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
than the rest of the 360 line. Hang on to that, there are probably very
few left
Not so fast...Payne's very popular 'Machine, Assembly and System's
Programming for the IBM360' circa 1969 has
I still remember the 360-40 I programmed on in my first job, and having
to know how to wire wrap the magnetic core memory modules, incase one
went bad and needed repairs/replacing.
I sort of miss the huge multi light display panels, especially the rows
attached to the data and address busses.
Not so fast...Payne's very popular 'Machine, Assembly and System's
Programming for the IBM360' circa 1969 has a yellow edition tucked in the back flap.
Mine's starting to deteriorate.
That's probably the general s/360 version, not the 360-20 version that
Ken reported
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 12:02:47 -0400, Bob Shannon wrote:
... It's hard to fault IBM for listening to the customers who
spend the most money.
Hard, maybe, but certainly not impossible.
Big companies spend the money, but big companies go under (fail) -- and
where is their replacement (to IBM's
Ed,
If that was a rumor than that's all it was. It's certainly in IBM's best
interest to keep SHARE happy, since most of its largest customers
attend. A dialogue in which only one party dictates the terms is useless
to both sides and a waste of time and money. I've never seen any
evidence of
Ed Gould wrote:
Go ahead get started after all this is mainframe related:) There was a
*RUMOR* going around 10 or so years ago that IBM told SHARE exactly
what was allowed and any deviation from that would get an instant IBM
withdrawal from all future SHARE meetings. Share reportedly said yes
I'd better get cracking on the 5.2 upgrade. It would be nice to get it done
before 5.3 goes GA.
Jon
snip
Indeed, z/VM 5.3 was just announced last month; GA scheduled for 29 June
2007. Looks like most of the new stuff in it is geared toward hosting
Linux guests, though it also adds support
In a message dated 3/23/2007 12:51:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That's probably the general s/360 version, not the 360-20 version that
Ken reported
'Reprinted from Form X20-1703-5 Data Reference Card' on the footer.
In a message dated 3/23/2007 12:54:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And, like most crazy conspiracy theories, what you're saying is utter
nonsense!
Yeah, just keep it up and you'll get a talk show and Geraldo will come and
ambush you and the people you worked
I simply cannot get ICSF to work on our z890 (2086-A04). We don't have
any crypto coprocessors. I don't know if we have CPACF on or not. Is
there a way that I can tell from the HMC? If so, please be specific as
to what to do and what to look for (thanks).
I have created the two VSAM files: CKDS
If you have no crypto coprocessors installed there is not much you can do with
ICSF and I don't think it will even stay up if it can't find a coprocessor.
Dan
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first please don't flame me. I know this is to talk about z/OS not VM but
had a question. You can reply to me off-line if you want.
We are starting to run Linux under z/VM for applications we will be porting
over to it as away to consolidate work. Since my unit is responsible for
the mainframe
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first please don't flame me. I know this is to talk about
z/OS not VM but
had a
We test new z/VM releases on second level machines and then implement on first
level. We don't have separate vm test LPARs for new releases.
Dan
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first
In a message dated 3/23/2007 12:54:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And, like most crazy conspiracy theories, what you're saying is utter
nonsense!
I think Michael Moore had a good point when he said Personally, I’m not
into conspiracy theories except those that
Andy White wrote:
first please don't flame me. I know this is to talk about z/OS not VM but
had a question. You can reply to me off-line if you want.
First I've heard that this is a z/OS-only list. The IBM-VM list gets more
VM-specific traffic, but to my knowledge this list is about anything
What I want to know is: How did he hear this from high ranking SHARE
ribbon holders if they were busy snubbing him?
At 01:53 PM 3/23/2007, Edward Jaffe said:
Oh pleease ... A SHARE/IBM conspiracy theory??!
Some people believe the lunar landings were filmed on a sound
stage,
Thompson, Steve wrote:
No, you have one of the replacement booklets. The S/360-20 ref summary
was a yellow card, similar to the S/360 larger systems Green card. I
used to have one, but someone stole it out of my desk some years ago. I
ordered a replacement and got the booklet (which has since
Must be Friday.
My X20-1703-1 and -2 are yellow; the GX20-1703s are green.
Bob
Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote:
...
all my 360 fan-fold reference cards (gx20-1703) are green (except for
blue fan-folds that were specific to 360/67, 229-3174) ... i think that
they changed to yellow for 370 (i.e.
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Maybe he overheard it?
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wrote on 03/23/2007 01:02:48 PM:
What I want to know is: How did he hear this from high ranking SHARE
ribbon holders if they were busy snubbing him?
At 01:53 PM 3/23/2007, Edward Jaffe said:
On Mar 23, 2007, at 4:08 AM, Tom Harper wrote:
ED,
I think you are completely mischaracterizing SHARE. I attend SHARE
regularly and do not hesitate to mention something to IBM if I feel
that
it is important, and neither do other SHARE members I know. SHARE is a
partnership with IBM, and the
Capacity can be available on demand with CBU or
CUoD.
Not when you work through a service provider.
And, when you have keys with no grace period.
1. Billing is based on installed, not used since we are not sharing the
envionment with anybody else. They tap-dance as gracefully as a hippo, so
Now that we have our first LPAR up and running on z/OS 1.8, I see that ISPF
option 3.17 is available.
17 Udlist Print or display (to process) z/OS UNIX directory list
This utility seems to have most all of the capabilities that the ISHELL has. I
tried to search for a techdoc or redbook
As a long-time VMer, I have tested almost everything is another virtual
machine, from MVT through MVS to z/OS, and VM, VSE and now Linux. I do not
need another LPAR as long as I have the real resources, memory, DASD, CPU to
handle the test workload plus some overhead. If you need to test a new
I know this is to talk about z/OS not VM
This the IBM Mainframe Discussion List.
VM runs on a Mainframe.
While it doesn't happen often, VM discussions are allowed.
(Unless it changed recently?)
-
Too busy driving to stop for gas!
I need to clarify (correct) my earlier message. The sequential terminals
we use for this capability on z/OS only use the printer half of the card
reader/line printer definition. This printer-only method doesn't work on
VSE (if anyone cares) because.that's just the way they (IBM) did it
on VSE.
Will it send most of the connections to that lpar, or is it going to do some
type of balancing?
When I implemented it in 1999, the answer was:
If the WLM can determine a performance index for applications in the grouping,
it picks the one with the lowest.
Otherwise, VTAM/TCP round robins.
IBM as their knew they could bend SHARE with their little pinky.
Horse pucky!!!
Where's your proof?
Vague statements do not constitute proof.
Your signal-to-noise ratio is rapidly approaching zero!
-
Too busy driving to stop for gas!
This tct should work on vse as well as mvs.
The output print device has a ddname of PRINT, and the input sequential
terminal has a ddname of TERM (or whatever names you want to specify in
the DDNAME parm).
For TERM, You need to define a dataset with lrecl 80 blksize 80 (no
blocking), and include
In a message dated 3/23/2007 2:58:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
While it doesn't happen often, VM discussions are allowed.
Back in the olden days, we ran VM and MVS and were having trouble
communicating. Mostly with Cross domain, printer set-up, PSF options
Ed Gould wrote:
Tom,
As you are a not to regular person here it seems an on going issue
with people not seeing other people at SHARE.
Since when is Tom Harper not considered a regular here??
There was an exchange about SCIDS on here as well. The big name
regulars have made it a point to
On 3/23/2007 3:33 PM, Bryan Klimek wrote:
Now that we have our first LPAR up and running on z/OS 1.8, I see that ISPF
option 3.17 is available.
17 Udlist Print or display (to process) z/OS UNIX directory list
This utility seems to have most all of the capabilities that the ISHELL has. I
Probably the best approach is to ignore you from this point forward
Unfortunately, I tend to agree.
I usually look for the best in people, but somebody, who has been out of the
business for so long, making ludicrus claims and insisting that nothing has
changed is just a waste of band-width.
I
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Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 3:33 PM
Subject: ishell vs 3.17
Now that we have our first LPAR up and running on z/OS 1.8, I see that
ISPF
option 3.17 is available.
17 Udlist Print or
It was quite obvious that when it came to making a decision
between which group IBM would support when it came to a
GUIDE/SHARE choice that IBM took the SHARE group as they
could influence (bully might be a better word)
SHARE easier. GUIDE was really giving IBM what for for about
10
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:28:15 -0500, Ed Gould
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
... The big name regulars have made it a
point to have meetings at the IBM-Main table. I showed up for one
such event and was ignored even though I tried to engage in
conversation with several regulars on
At 10:10 AM -0400 on 3/17/07, Peter Relson wrote about Re: Need help
with Assembler accessing VSAM file in reentra:
2) IBM has a lot of funny macros that were shoehorned into RENT
support. For these it's necessary to define a copy in your
CSECT, and another in your DSECT, and move the
At 7:58 PM -0700 on 3/22/07, Edward Jaffe wrote about Re: Macro
List/Execute Forms (Was: Need help with Assembler:
IEABRC converts based branches to relative branches. Thus, it
affects only *some* of the IBM macros with addressability issues
rendering it a partial solution at best.
A much
At 9:03 AM -0700 on 3/17/07, Ray Mullins wrote about Re: Need help
with Assembler accessing VSAM file in reentra:
OPEN (USER_SPECIFIED_DDNAME),MF=(E,@OPEN)
@OPENOPEN (,INPUT,SYSPRINT,OUTPUT),MF=L
It's Saturday so no work access, and I can't fire up my MVS/SP 3.8j
environment right now
On Mar 23, 2007, at 12:03 PM, Wayne Driscoll wrote:
Ed,
SHARE is a VOLUNTEER driven organization. If you feel that SHARE
isn't
providing the support and drive to IBM that you feel is required,
instead of complaining from the sidelines, become a volunteer! How
long
has it been since you
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:20:00 -0400, Gray, Larry - Larry A
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
I... . When connecting to a generic
resource, does it favor the application on the local lpar? I am looking
at switching our multisession manager to using generic resources, but
most of our telnet sessions
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 08:47:01 +0100, Víctor de la Fuente
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know if I'm getting mad. Some days ago one of my mates was able to
use the esoteric X5 for one allocation, but I'm almost sure it's
not defined in current IODF.
Is there any way of listing esoterics
I *TRIED* at multiple session to volunteer and was either ignored or told they
didn't need help.
And, that led to your conspiracy theory, how?
I think you've stretched credibility beyond the breaking point!
Boy? Wolf? Cry?
-
Too busy driving to stop for gas!
On Mar 23, 2007, at 12:53 PM, Tom Harper wrote:
Ed,
If that was a rumor than that's all it was. It's certainly in IBM's
best
interest to keep SHARE happy, since most of its largest customers
attend. A dialogue in which only one party dictates the terms is
useless
to both sides and a
This is my last reply on the subject of SHARE.
You started this thread, and refuted are taking your ball and going home.
Or, did you realise you have NOTHING but anecdotal evidence?
Do us all a favour -- try lurking rather than gibbering.
I don't know about anybody else, but I have no patience
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:23:53 -0500, Patrick O'Keefe wrote:
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:28:15 -0500, Ed Gould wrote:
...
... The big name regulars have made it a
point to have meetings at the IBM-Main table. I showed up for one
such event and was ignored even though I tried to engage in
RIGHT ON!
Charles
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Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 12:29 PM
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At 7:58 PM -0700
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:47:13 -0500, Ed Gould
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
... I did this anonymously (for several reasons). I found it
really hadn't changed. I even talked with one of the session runners
and asked if he needed help. I was told no . I asked if they needed
help with the handouts and
snippage
This is my last reply on the subject of SHARE.
Ed
If only that statement was true, life would be grand!
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This is my last reply on the subject of SHARE.
Ed
If only that statement was true, life would be grand!
Lord, I second that
Ed,
Is there any way it could be your LAST POST..PERIOD
Sure would be nice to hear SOMETHING.ANYTHING positive about
IBMJUST ONCE !!!
I
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:04:11 -0500, Tom Schmidt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
Huh??
I don't recall ever having a problem FINDING the ibm-main table - and
I don't
recall feeling snubbed when scarfing their pretzels either. ...
Uh oh. Now I'm going to start getting paranoid. The last 2 times
CHANGE THE BLOODY SUBJECT so those of us TRYING to discuss a MACRO issue
can.
SHARE GUIDE RANT CUT
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Mark, be nice. Ted is an unarmed American with a health care plan.
Pat, it is YOU. We don't like no stinkin communications guys
networking lol
We better stop before Darren shuts us down.
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--snip-
I just acquired what I believe to be an early 'green card'.
It's actually a white booklet, GX20-1727-5, 20 pages (back cover is page
20).
Title is IBM System/360 Reference Card - System/360 Model 20
I remember hearing/reading some trivia
In a message dated 3/23/2007 5:04:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
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the BITNET crowd but even then the individual people were more than friendly
and courteous; that would have been ibm-main very near to its birth and it,
like everything, has evolved substantially
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Yeah, just keep it up and you'll get a talk show and Geraldo will come
and ambush you and the people you worked with
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FWIW: Around Chicago stations, Geraldo is more commonly
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As you are a not to regular person here it seems an on going issue with
people not seeing other people at SHARE. There was an exchange about
SCIDS on here as well. The big name regulars have made it a point to
have meetings at the
If you think being an ISV is wildly profitable, may I suggest you get into
the business? It would have two benefits:
1. You will become rich.
2. Your competition in the marketplace will lower the costs of software for
all.
BTW, you won't charge by CPU size, right? So people with FLEX boxes will
I could name a certain vendor named compu* something or other that likes to
charge a lot more than they should be charging.
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From: Charles Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
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