SV: Call for XEDIT freaks, submit ISPF requirements

2007-03-29 Thread thomas . berg
-Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Steve Comstock Skickat: den 28 mars 2007 21:41 Till: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Ämne: Re: Call for XEDIT freaks, submit ISPF requirements but the thing is, no managers will pay for people to take

Re: Jes2 Exit52 Again

2007-03-29 Thread Giovanni Santuz
Hi Just found this forum about JES2 EXIT52 We are going from Z/OS 1,6 to 1.8 and need to change our EXITs alot of the COntrolblocks have changed e,g JCTJNAME is not available anymore Found out that for normal submits EXIT52 is entered. Thru the IBM JES2z/OS 1.7 Migration Guide I was able to

Re: which one is better ?

2007-03-29 Thread wtrovijo
buhetom wrote: We're planning to run some batch jobs with heavy I/O on a new System Z.There would be about 50 concurrent jobs at the same time.We have two configurations IBM offered:more cpus with lower processing capacity each and less cpus with higher processing capacity.Which one would

Re: Need for small machines was Re: Macro List/Execute Forms (Was: Need help with Assembler ...)

2007-03-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/25/2007 at 05:03 PM, Don Leahy [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: However, ISPF forces you to remember a *lot* of data set names. To the system programmers on this list that may not be a big deal, (everything that matters starts with SYS1.* right?) Wrong, and irrelevant;

Re: Call for XEDIT freaks, submit ISPF requirements

2007-03-29 Thread Phil Smith III
Pinnacle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a call to all the XEDIT freaks that have been punking ISPF the last few days to put your money where your mouth is and submit some SHARE requirements for the ISPF editor. I get sick and tired of all the XEDIT freaks saying how XEDIT is way better than

Re: 125 JES internal reader allocation failed

2007-03-29 Thread Charles Mills
CA-ACF2. Why? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of August Carideo Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 2:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 125 JES internal reader allocation failed are they running ACF2 ?

Re: which one is better ?

2007-03-29 Thread George Bly
If I remember correctly IBM has/had Batch Workload Analysis Tools. They used to be free. They took SMF info and compared your workload with other processors. Just a thought! George -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wtrovijo

IEHLIST Error?

2007-03-29 Thread Jeffrey Deaver
I'm wondering if this is just the way its suppose to be, or an error?We just upgraded to z/OS 1.7, and I don't remember how this used to work (rarely used). //STEP1EXEC PGM=IEHLIST //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //VOLDDDD UNIT=DISK,VOL=SER=PRK027,DISP=OLD //SYSINDD * LISTVTOC

Re: IEHLIST Error?

2007-03-29 Thread Staller, Allan
Start the continuation in Col 16... snip //STEP1EXEC PGM=IEHLIST //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //VOLDDDD UNIT=DISK,VOL=SER=PRK027,DISP=OLD //SYSINDD * LISTVTOC FORMAT,VOL=DISK=PRK027,X DSNAME=('ADC.PSWMGTA.WRKFILE.PM.IEBPTPCH.JCL')

Negative Weight on LPAR Setup

2007-03-29 Thread Herring, Bobby
My manager went to the zSeries Expo a few months back and said he heard a presentation that mentioned using negative weights when configuring LPAR's. We have 4 LPAR's and want two of them to only get time when the other two don't need it. We have them capped now but that also limits them when

Re: IEHLIST Error?

2007-03-29 Thread Jeffrey Deaver
Doh! Just when you think you've tried everything and after you've decided to send an email to IBM-Main - that's when you figure out your mistake. It was the damn quotes. Jeez.It does work in column 16 - lists only the one dataset. It must just ignore the second line if it starts past

Re: which one is better ?

2007-03-29 Thread Hal Merritt
True, but all processors wait at the same speed :-) Looking at queuing theory, we see a unit of work going ready to use a CPU. It now must wait for a CPU to finish what it is doing and look for more work. A faster motor gets to this state more quickly, but more motors increases the times one will

IPSEC Certificates

2007-03-29 Thread Nir Eliyaho
Hi list, We are trying to establish IPSEC dynamic tunnel between 2 Zos lpars. We created the Policy Agent, IKED and also the ipsec_policy. Everything should be working. We have defined in each LPAR: 1. Self signed CA 2. The IKE deamon certificate signed by the local CA 3. Connected both

IBMLink web is down SEV1 ticket opened with IBMLink help desk

2007-03-29 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi, http://www.ibm.com/ibmlink IBMLink web is down SEV1 ticket opened with IBMLink help desk 1-800-543-3912 Best Regards, Sam Knutson, GEICO Performance and Availability Management mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: IBMLink web is down SEV1 ticket opened with IBMLink help desk

2007-03-29 Thread Robert Justice
Thank goodness the 3270 INTERFACE IS STILL WORKING LIKE A CHAMP ! The withdrawal of VM ServiceLink is being extended to May 31, 2007. Recent outages with the application used to authenticate users caused IBM Web applications (including ServiceLink applications on the Web) to be

Re: IBMLink web is down SEV1 ticket opened with IBMLink help desk

2007-03-29 Thread Jon Brock
Unfortunately, since they integrated all of our IBM IDs I no longer know what ID and password to use on the 3270 interface; it won't accept the ones I formerly used. You know, I would have a hard time conceiving of something which could make a high-tech company look worse than being unable to

Branch entry post caller gets returned with IO and external interrupts disabled

2007-03-29 Thread Binyamin Dissen
An unlocked user task running PASN^+HASN issued a branch entry post with ASCB and MEMREL=NO. Upon return the PSW began with 04 - IO and external disabled. A few instructions later an 0C4 occured because of a page fault while disabled. zOS1.7 Don't see anything obvious out there. -- Binyamin

Re: IBMLink web is down SEV1 ticket opened with IBMLink help desk

2007-03-29 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
To open IBMLINK issues use 1-800-543-3912 Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Brock Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 10:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBMLink web

Re: IBMLink web is down SEV1 ticket opened with IBMLink help desk

2007-03-29 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jon Brock Unfortunately, since they integrated all of our IBM IDs I no longer know what ID and password to use on the 3270 interface; it won't accept the ones I formerly used. You know, I would have a hard time

Re: IBMLink web is down SEV1 ticket opened with IBMLink help desk

2007-03-29 Thread Big Iron
The 3270 interface is not available to Canadian customers AFAIK. Bill On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:48:38 -0400, Jon Brock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, since they integrated all of our IBM IDs I no longer know what ID and password to use on the 3270 interface; it won't accept the ones I

Re: restart particular step in jcl

2007-03-29 Thread Howard Brazee
On 27 Mar 2007 06:18:39 -0700, vikki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How should i run only step 02 in JCL as step 01 and 03 should not run??? Is this something that will happen repeatedly, so that you will change the JCL? Or would it be easier to make an in-line PROC and edit out 03 for today? If

Re: Branch entry post caller gets returned with IO and external interrupts disabled

2007-03-29 Thread Blaicher, Chris
Sounds like you need to open an ETR, once IBMLINK comes back from the dead. Christopher Y. Blaicher BMC Software, Inc. Austin Development Labs (512) 340-6154 The comments made are my personal opinions. BMC Software, Inc. makes no representations or promises regarding the reliability,

Re: ISPF not productive

2007-03-29 Thread Howard Brazee
On 28 Mar 2007 06:21:30 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) wrote: IBM sells lots of things, and I don't see any correlation between sales figures and quality. The everybody else has one argument is not an appropriate criterion for purchase decisions. Except nowadays, everybody

Re: History - Early Green Card

2007-03-29 Thread Howard Brazee
On 23 Mar 2007 09:28:31 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thompson, Steve) wrote: No, you have one of the replacement booklets. The S/360-20 ref summary was a yellow card, similar to the S/360 larger systems Green card. I used to have one, but someone stole it out of my desk some years ago. I ordered a

Re: History - Early Green Card

2007-03-29 Thread Howard Brazee
On 27 Mar 2007 08:04:53 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fred Hoffman) wrote: I do have a -1 Second Edition (September 1972). I think that is the earliest one that I have. Fred Hoffman TAD Mine says -2 Third Edition (February 1974) The corner with the suffix of mine is worn out. I don't see any

Re: Sysplex timer

2007-03-29 Thread TISLER Zaromil
Victor, snip Yesterday we tried to synchronize our Sysplex Timers with an ETS, but we couldn't get it. My problem is I didn't find any manuals with help. It shows an error window, but I don't know where to look for information about it. Could you tell me where can I look for? snip have you seen

Re: SMS Management Class usage

2007-03-29 Thread Scott Barry
DCOLLECT does in fact capture MGMTCLAS and most other SMS construct information from the VVDS portion (VVR/NVR record, DFSMS cell info) of the catalog structure. The DFSORT team, led by Frank Yaeger, provides a utility set to generate reports using the DCOLLECT-generated output, at

Re: History - Early Green Card

2007-03-29 Thread Steve Comstock
Howard Brazee wrote: On 23 Mar 2007 09:28:31 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thompson, Steve) wrote: No, you have one of the replacement booklets. The S/360-20 ref summary was a yellow card, similar to the S/360 larger systems Green card. I used to have one, but someone stole it out of my desk some

Record Credit card heist...TJM

2007-03-29 Thread Ed Finnell
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Re: Need for small machines was Re: Macro List/Execute Forms (Was: Need help with Assembler ...)

2007-03-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/26/2007 at 02:57 PM, Dave Salt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Don mentioned in an earlier post that the ISPF editor is the 'gold standard' It isn't; it's just the vi[1] of the MVS world. The MVS world has at least two editors with important capabilities that ISPF lacks:

Re: Record Credit card heist...TJM

2007-03-29 Thread Gary Green
Not to start another mainframe vs. the world thread, but does anyone know the platform of the security breach? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Finnell Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 12:24 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject:

Re: Need for small machines was Re: Macro List/Execute Forms (Was: Need help with Assembler ...)

2007-03-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/26/2007 at 04:53 PM, Dave Salt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Why *isn't* it a limitation of ISPF? ISPF is the user interface to the mainframe, in just the same way as Windows is the user interface to the PC. If I'm working on my PC and I click a PDF document, Windows

Re: Need for small machines was Re: Macro List/Execute Forms (Was: Need help with Assembler ...)

2007-03-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/26/2007 at 08:39 PM, Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Yes I know about ROSCOE and the others (Wylbur etc.) and while they are OK once you learn them I found I kept wishing that I had ISPF. When I had ISPF and SuperWylbur® I used both and kept wishing that I had

Re: Need for small machines was Re: Macro List/Execute Forms (Was: Need help with Assembler ...)

2007-03-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/27/2007 at 02:18 AM, Dave Salt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: For one thing, you just can't beat the ability to enter line commands. Sure you can, with user defined[1] line commands. That's what I miss most about XEDIT. [1]Including supporting infrastructure. --

Re: Need for small machines was Re: Macro List/Execute Forms (Was: Need help with Assembler ...)

2007-03-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/27/2007 at 09:28 AM, Craddock, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: But... while you can scroll left and right and play games with inserts and shifts and nulls and so forth, only a masochist would claim it works well for unstructured data and long lines. Similarly, only a

Re: Need for small machines was Re: Macro List/Execute Forms (Was: Need help with Assembler ...)

2007-03-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/27/2007 at 10:01 AM, Barkow, Eileen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: While on the subject of editors, i am new to z/os Linux There is no z/OS Linux. There is a Unix component in z/OS and there is a Linux port; they are separate entities. and would like to find an editor

Re: SDSF ? display

2007-03-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/25/2007 at 07:59 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Does JES2 make the necessary interfaces available to SDSF? Does it matter? Submit a requirement against SDSF; if they need[1] additional JES2 support they'll ask for it. Does that suggest a requirement to

Re: Need for small machines was Re: Macro List/Execute Forms (Was: Need help with Assembler ...)

2007-03-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/28/2007 at 02:58 AM, Dave Salt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The original poster said something along the lines of I don't want to keep scraps of paper with all my DB2 table names on it. In support of that, I used an analogy that even though Windows doesn't natively

Re: Serial Editors

2007-03-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/27/2007 at 10:47 AM, Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: In a recent interview Bill Joy(author of vi) said Can't believe anybody still uses that thing If you wondered about why? Most of it is ergonomics. Dr. Joy is a large person. The goal(way back then) was to

Re: Serial Editors

2007-03-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/27/2007 at 11:15 AM, Craddock, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Whether that was his intent or not I can't say. He is supposed to have banged the original out in an afternoon in frustration with the even worse crap that was available in BSD zero dot something. The

Re: Serial Editors

2007-03-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/27/2007 at 11:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Along with the rest of Unix. I used to feel that way. Until I saw Windoze. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We

Re: Serial Editors (was: Need for small machines ...)

2007-03-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/27/2007 at 07:24 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is KEDIT available for zLinux? I doubt it. But why would you prefer KEDIT over THE? Many people like THE. I haven't tried it. I fear it would too much remind me of ISPF. Why? It's an XEDIT clone. It's

Re: Subversion on RHEL

2007-03-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/27/2007 at 02:37 PM, Jon Brock [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Sorry, folks. That was supposed to go to the linux-390 list. It's on topic here, even if you are more likely to get an answer there. Please consider posting the answer here if you get it. -- Shmuel

Re: Call for XEDIT freaks, submit ISPF requirements

2007-03-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/28/2007 at 10:38 AM, George, William (DHS-ITSD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: This a very possible and quite useful via Doug Nagle's LMAC or UMAC. I've implemented it and added many line command 'macros'. Doesn't that tie up a PFK or the command line? IAC, XEDIT

Re: Call for XEDIT freaks, submit ISPF requirements

2007-03-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/28/2007 at 09:00 PM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Why are you (and others) posting requirement here? They aren't; they're responding to the OP's outburst. Why not do what the OP suggested, and submit them through appropriate channels? Maybe they have.

Re: Call for XEDIT freaks, submit ISPF requirements

2007-03-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/28/2007 at 12:50 PM, Pinnacle [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: This is a call to all the XEDIT freaks that have been punking ISPF the last few days to put your money where your mouth is and submit some SHARE requirements for the ISPF editor. I get sick and tired of all

Re: Need for small machines was Re: Macro List/Execute Forms (Was: Need help with Assembler ...)

2007-03-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/26/2007 at 12:20 PM, Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Nowadays, a programmer who did something like that would likely be fired on the spot. That would depend on 1. Whether he installed SimpList in system libraries 2. Whether he violated the TC for the

Re: Record Credit card heist...TJM

2007-03-29 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8O5TU180.htm) long running related thread (over in a.f.m) most recent post http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#8 Securing financial transactions a high priority for 2007 part of most recent topic drift about why

Re: Need for small machines was Re: Macro List/Execute Forms (Was: Need help with Assembler ...)

2007-03-29 Thread Howard Brazee
On 29 Mar 2007 09:29:41 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) wrote: Yes I know about ROSCOE and the others (Wylbur etc.) and while they are OK once you learn them I found I kept wishing that I had ISPF. When I had ISPF and SuperWylbur® I used both and kept wishing that I had

Re: Need for small machines was Re: Macro List/Execute Forms (Was: Need help with Assembler ...)

2007-03-29 Thread Craddock, Chris
Shmuel said at 09:28 AM, Craddock, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: But... while you can scroll left and right and play games with inserts and shifts and nulls and so forth, only a masochist would claim it works well for unstructured data and long lines. Similarly, only a masochist would

Re: ishell vs 3.17

2007-03-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/28/2007 at 07:25 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: In an earlier post in this thread, Tom Conley mentioned a goal to fully integrate USS functions into ISPF. Assuming that he really means Unix System Services, that would have to include things like UID

Re: Call for XEDIT freaks, submit ISPF requirements

2007-03-29 Thread George, William (DHS-ITSD)
Tie up a PFK or command line? == It ties up neither. Extra infrastructure? == Yes, it does require an initialization process when your ISPF session is started but once you have it automated within your logon process it is invisible and painless. -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: Record Credit card heist...TJM

2007-03-29 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 3/29/2007 11:39:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and slightly earlier post with reference to cyber thieves are hauling in more cash than drug dealers as well as URL references to half dozen previous posts (going back nearly to the start of the

Re: IEHLIST Error?

2007-03-29 Thread Chris Mason
Jeffrey It may be that the DSNAME etc. part of the statement was being treated as a comment - much the same as being ignored, I suppose. Column 1 isn't used because in assembler, from which the format is taken, a label is recognised by *starting* in column 1 - with a maximum length of 8

Re: [z/OS v1.7] WLM Performance periods: durations vs. service units

2007-03-29 Thread Gerhard Adam
Does that imply that the 750 specified for Period 1 duration equated to approx. 0.44 clock seconds with the 2003 (1724.7 SU/sec); exclusive of wait times, natch. And, by extension, does that mean the period is now down to 0.11 clock seconds on our latest z/890 (8084 SU/sec)? The short

Re: [z/OS v1.7] WLM Performance periods: durations vs. service units

2007-03-29 Thread Staller, Allan
snip Does that imply that the 750 specified for Period 1 duration equated to approx. 0.44 clock seconds with the 2003 (1724.7 SU/sec); exclusive of wait times, natch. And, by extension, does that mean the period is now down to 0.11 clock seconds on our latest z/890 (8084 SU/sec)? The short

Re: IBMLink web is down SEV1 ticket opened with IBMLink help desk

2007-03-29 Thread Low, David
Shopz appear to be down also, or just incredibly slow. I'm stuck on the signon screen for 2 mins now... Dave Low -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the

Re: ISPF not productive

2007-03-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/28/2007 at 08:44 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Does it also scroll when the cursor reaches the edge of the screen with arrow key, rather than hyperspacing to the opposite edge? Are you using the WSA? Perhaps what is really needed is requirements

Re: Job class enforcement was Re: IEFC603I PROCLIB DEVICE I/O ERROR READING F...

2007-03-29 Thread Howard Brazee
On 29 Mar 2007 10:41:40 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) wrote: If people are doing that, then your charge back policies should be reviewed. NOT, what the user is doing to get their job done. The users' jobs include following company policies. That is correct.But as with

Re: [z/OS v1.7] WLM Performance periods: durations vs. service units

2007-03-29 Thread Gerhard Adam
Why worry? RMF III and RMF post processor reports will both give you the percentile breakdown of the activity (given a percentile goal). Just adjust the duration of 750 SU's until A) 75% of transactions end in 1/2 second or less and then use that value or B) if 75% of trans are ending wthin the

Re: EZA1551I - Unknown host: aa.bb.com

2007-03-29 Thread Chris Mason
Carol I'm making this analysis with the hindsight which Pat has provided by requiring you to perform a resolver trace - one of his favourite traces :-) - and this contribution is a lot about what should have happened. This looks like you were given a job to do which included this FTP job.

Re: EZA1551I - Unknown host: aa.bb.com

2007-03-29 Thread Richard Pinion
Don't know if anyone has suggested this since I've not followed the thread too closely. Has the FTP been tried from a Windows or IX platform? --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Chris Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EZA1551I - Unknown host:

Re: Job class enforcement was Re: IEFC603I PROCLIB DEVICE I/O ERROR READING F...

2007-03-29 Thread Clark Morris
On 28 Mar 2007 13:30:53 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Job class enforcement was Re:

Use of SYSPARM

2007-03-29 Thread Mark Steely
We are z/OS V1R7. I am sharing SYS1.PARMLIB between two LPAR's. One LPAR needs more OMVS parms then the other. I thought I would used the SYSPARM parameter of the LOAD or IEASYMxx member. This would be where I would specify the OMVS statement. When I did the IPL the SYSPARM was ignored. It says

Question about SuperWylbur

2007-03-29 Thread Gregory, Gary G
When did Wylbur become SuperWylbur? I'm guessing that ACS sold it off. The last release I messed with was 9.0 ~ 10 years ago. snip Yes I know about ROSCOE and the others (Wylbur etc.) and while they are OK once you learn them I found I kept wishing that I had ISPF. When I had ISPF and

Re: Question about SuperWylbur

2007-03-29 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregory, Gary G Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 3:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Question about SuperWylbur When did Wylbur become SuperWylbur? I'm guessing that ACS sold it off. The

Re: A little good news for MF

2007-03-29 Thread Rick Fochtman
-snip Just got back from teaching a class (my first payable work this year, and my backlog is now back to zero; but, that's all for a different post that I may never put out). Anyway, the client contact told me they havebeen moving work off the

Re: A little good news for MF

2007-03-29 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 3:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: A little good news for MF SNIP ISTM that all the security breaches that seem to make the printed rags

Re: Jes2 Exit52 Again

2007-03-29 Thread Bob Rutledge
I've never attempted to change a jobname in the JES2 exits or anywhere else, but I'll take a stab at this... Giovanni Santuz wrote: ... Here the EXIT (contains exit02 and EXIT52): ... L R9,X002JXWR Points to 80 byte Workarea L R7,X002CARD

Re: Call for XEDIT freaks, submit ISPF requirements

2007-03-29 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip-- Oops, DITTO online edit before I use - ICCF -. I never got to experience the wonder that is SPMOL. That's probably a good thing. unsnip Unless you've got a padded office and a masochistic streak, you

Re: Question about SuperWylbur

2007-03-29 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 3/29/2007 3:07:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When did Wylbur become SuperWylbur? To add a little more to Steve Thompson's reply: WYLBUR, and its required telecommunications component ORVYL (might not have spelled that one right, but how

Re: A little good news for MF

2007-03-29 Thread Ron Wells
waiting to see the reply to that one ... -- Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains confidential information belonging to the sender, which may be legally privileged information. This information is intended only for the

Re: Call for XEDIT freaks, submit ISPF requirements

2007-03-29 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman snip SORT macro On the command line, SORT x y will sort the currently-edited or -viewed member using column x for a length of y as the sort key. It

Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: Job class enforcement was Re: IEFC603I PROCLIB DEVICE I/O ERROR READING FOR JOB

2007-03-29 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip Some jobs are real problems. For instance, we had one that required six tape drives (out of eight), and lots of work space. We had a special class, without a matching initiator, and required the jobs for that class to be scheduled by Operations.

Re: EZA1551I - Unknown host: aa.bb.com

2007-03-29 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:48:00 +0200, Chris Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few comments and glosses on Chris's comments. ... resolver trace - one of his favourite traces :-) And not a comment about someone having a favorite trace. Chris could have added ... sick puppy ... first time

Re: A little good news for MF

2007-03-29 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thompson, Steve Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 3:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: A little good news for MF -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Use of SYSPARM

2007-03-29 Thread Field, Alan C.
Mark, we've used M for years with CLPA. I think the use of CLPA was discussed on IBM-MAIN fairly recently. Unless you want to preserve VIO data there isn't a good reason to NOT do it each IPL. It doesn't increase the IPL time noticeably. You could set up two BPXPRMxx members and select the

Re: Question about SuperWylbur

2007-03-29 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:40:14 EDT, IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote: WYLBUR, and its required telecommunications component ORVYL (might not have spelled that one right, but how clever), were developed at NIH and thus were in the public domain. I believe that WYLBUR came from Stanford

Re: Question about SuperWylbur

2007-03-29 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 3:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question about SuperWylbur In a message dated 3/29/2007 3:07:20 P.M. Central

Re: Job class enforcement

2007-03-29 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 3/29/2007 3:45:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some jobs are real problems. Which is, or was long ago, a very good reason to define and rigorously enforce job classes. I worked on a massive local mod to JES2 in 1977 that determined many

Re: which one is better ?

2007-03-29 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip- If I remember correctly IBM has/had Batch Workload Analysis Tools. They used to be free. They took SMF info and compared your workload with other processors. Just a thought! --unsnip- Another thought:

Re: Question about SuperWylbur

2007-03-29 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Schmidt Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 3:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question about SuperWylbur On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:40:14 EDT, IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote:

What's a CPU second?

2007-03-29 Thread Charles Mills
Okay, this is probably the dumbest question of the day, maybe of the month. I am in a discussion with someone and I need some backup for my way of thinking. If a jobstep reports, for example IEF374I STEP/STEP0010/STOP 2007086.1135 CPU0MIN 00.02SEC then it is reporting .02 seconds on a

Re: Call for XEDIT freaks, submit ISPF requirements

2007-03-29 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:19:26 -0400, Pinnacle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... How do you know they haven't? ... Because I'm the SHARE requirements coordinator for ISPF. ... Tom, Even if you weren't the coordinator you could know. SHARE members registered for a project's requirements can see the

Re: [z/OS v1.7] WLM Performance periods: durations vs. service units

2007-03-29 Thread Don Deese
Hey, wait a minute guys. I think that there is a bit of confusion on DUR and how TSO transactions transit to Period 2. 1. Duration is the amount of service that a period should consume before going on the next period. This is NOT service units per second, but is total service units

Re: What's a CPU second?

2007-03-29 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: What's a CPU second? Okay, this is probably the dumbest question of the day, maybe of the month. I am in a

Re: Call for XEDIT freaks, submit ISPF requirements

2007-03-29 Thread Imbriale, Donald
Not true regarding what you call major key. The keys do not need to be in left to right order, but the concept of primary (major) and secondary (minor) keys still applied. SORT 1 5 A 11 15 D may give different results than SORT 11 15 D 1 5 A Don Imbriale -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: What's a CPU second?

2007-03-29 Thread Gerhard Adam
If a jobstep reports, for example IEF374I STEP/STEP0010/STOP 2007086.1135 CPU0MIN 00.02SEC then it is reporting .02 seconds on a single CPU of the box, is that correct? This number would presumably be little changed if the same box went from, say, a 4-way to an 8-way, is that correct? In

Re: Question about SuperWylbur

2007-03-29 Thread Rick Fochtman
When I worked on WYLBUR at AMA, the communications component was MILTEN and consisted mainly of one huge I/O Appendage. ORVYL was the desktop publishing component. (For those that might care: Milton was the father of Wylbur and Orville Wright.) snip--

Re: which one is better ?

2007-03-29 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Another thought: SNAPSHOT. Wasn't cheap! May 2005. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO

Re: What's a CPU second?

2007-03-29 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 3/29/2007 4:01:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If a jobstep reports, for example IEF374I STEP/STEP0010/STOP 2007086.1135 CPU0MIN 00.02SEC then it is reporting .02 seconds on a single CPU of the box, is that correct? To answer only this part

Re: [z/OS v1.7] WLM Performance periods: durations vs. service units

2007-03-29 Thread Gerhard Adam
You're absolutely right, however there are a few additional considerations when examining TSO that are worth considering. 1. Duration is the amount of service that a period should consume before going on the next period. This is NOT service units per second, but is total service units

Re: Uncaptured CPU Overheads, SRM / RMPTTOM Article on CMG Measure IT!

2007-03-29 Thread Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc
Sam, there is also an undocumented IEAOPTxx parm SHORTWAITMIN. Unfortunally no idea what this means or does. Thanks for the posting. I agree excellent article!!! BTW: SHOWzOS 715 (next version) will show the RMPTTOM value among other SRM parms from IEAOPTxx if I discover how RMPTTOM=2000

Re: What's a CPU second?

2007-03-29 Thread Blaicher, Chris
Total time on all processors. We had a job that ran 60 seconds elapsed time and used 180 seconds of CPU time. It was running on a 4-way box, and no it was not in a loop. Just a lot of CPU intensive processing with multi-tasking. Christopher Y. Blaicher BMC Software, Inc. Austin Development

JCL Syntax (was: IEHLIST Error?)

2007-03-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Chris Mason said: Subject: Re: IEHLIST Error? Be thankful, the column 16 rule - and the column 72 rule - used to apply to JCL statements if my memory hasn't broken down completely... No cause for gratitude. In some contexts they still apply. And I've just verified

Re: Question about SuperWylbur

2007-03-29 Thread Charles Mills
ORVYL is the product of a number of years of development of timesharing resources on IBM hardware at Stanford. From its introduction in the late sixties as a timesharing monitor on an IBM 9672, ORVYL has become a powerful timesharing system, taking full advantage of expanded OS/390 hardware

Re: What's a CPU second?

2007-03-29 Thread Charles Mills
Gee, thanks everybody for telling me about MP overhead and SRB time and time-slicing and the rationale for MSUs. g Would someone care to go out on a limb and give me a direct yes or no on my basic question? If a jobstep is reported to have used .02 CPU seconds, for example, that means it spent

Re: What's a CPU second?

2007-03-29 Thread Shane Ginnane
Charles wrote on 30/03/2007 09:07:59 AM: Would someone care to go out on a limb and give me a direct yes or no on my basic question? Yes. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: What's a CPU second?

2007-03-29 Thread Raymond Noal
Charles, Like Bill explained in his reply, the time reported is the time your program spent in execution regardless of how many processors it was dispatch on. HITACHI  DATA SYSTEMS Raymond E. Noal Senior Technical Engineer Office: (408) 970 - 7978 -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: What's a CPU second?

2007-03-29 Thread Charles Mills
Thanks all. It's not the number of processors dispatched on issue that I was clarifying. It's the total number of processors/total horsepower of the box issue that I am having a discussion with someone about. He is having difficulty accepting that one CPU second on a 100 MSU box is the same

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