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Ämne: Re: Call for XEDIT freaks, submit ISPF requirements
but the thing is, no managers will pay for people to take
Hi
Just found this forum about JES2 EXIT52
We are going from Z/OS 1,6 to 1.8 and need to change our EXITs
alot of the COntrolblocks have changed e,g JCTJNAME is not available anymore
Found out that for normal submits EXIT52 is entered.
Thru the IBM JES2z/OS 1.7 Migration Guide I was able to
buhetom wrote:
We're planning to run some batch jobs with heavy I/O on a new System
Z.There would be about 50 concurrent jobs at the same time.We have two
configurations IBM offered:more cpus with lower processing capacity
each and less cpus with higher processing capacity.Which one would
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/25/2007
at 05:03 PM, Don Leahy [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
However, ISPF forces you to remember a *lot* of data set names. To
the system programmers on this list that may not be a big deal,
(everything that matters starts with SYS1.* right?)
Wrong, and irrelevant;
Pinnacle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is a call to all the XEDIT freaks that have been punking ISPF the last
few days to put your money where your mouth is and submit some SHARE
requirements for the ISPF editor. I get sick and tired of all the XEDIT
freaks saying how XEDIT is way better than
CA-ACF2. Why?
Charles
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Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 2:58 PM
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Subject: Re: 125 JES internal reader allocation failed
are they running ACF2 ?
If I remember correctly IBM has/had Batch Workload Analysis Tools.
They used to be free. They took SMF info and compared your workload with
other processors.
Just a thought!
George
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Of wtrovijo
I'm wondering if this is just the way its suppose to be, or an error?We
just upgraded to z/OS 1.7, and I don't remember how this used to work
(rarely used).
//STEP1EXEC PGM=IEHLIST
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//VOLDDDD UNIT=DISK,VOL=SER=PRK027,DISP=OLD
//SYSINDD *
LISTVTOC
Start the continuation in Col 16...
snip
//STEP1EXEC PGM=IEHLIST
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//VOLDDDD UNIT=DISK,VOL=SER=PRK027,DISP=OLD
//SYSINDD *
LISTVTOC FORMAT,VOL=DISK=PRK027,X
DSNAME=('ADC.PSWMGTA.WRKFILE.PM.IEBPTPCH.JCL')
My manager went to the zSeries Expo a few months back and said he heard
a presentation that mentioned using negative weights when configuring
LPAR's. We have 4 LPAR's and want two of them to only get time when the
other two don't need it. We have them capped now but that also limits
them when
Doh! Just when you think you've tried everything and after you've decided
to send an email to IBM-Main - that's when you figure out your mistake.
It was the damn quotes. Jeez.It does work in column 16 - lists only
the one dataset. It must just ignore the second line if it starts past
True, but all processors wait at the same speed :-)
Looking at queuing theory, we see a unit of work going ready to use a
CPU. It now must wait for a CPU to finish what it is doing and look for
more work. A faster motor gets to this state more quickly, but more
motors increases the times one will
Hi list,
We are trying to establish IPSEC dynamic tunnel between 2 Zos lpars.
We created the Policy Agent, IKED and also the ipsec_policy.
Everything should be working.
We have defined in each LPAR:
1. Self signed CA
2. The IKE deamon certificate signed by the local CA
3. Connected both
Hi,
http://www.ibm.com/ibmlink
IBMLink web is down SEV1 ticket opened with IBMLink help desk
1-800-543-3912
Best Regards,
Sam Knutson, GEICO
Performance and Availability Management
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank goodness the 3270 INTERFACE IS STILL WORKING LIKE A CHAMP !
The withdrawal of VM ServiceLink is being extended to May 31, 2007.
Recent outages with the application used to authenticate users caused
IBM Web applications (including ServiceLink applications on the Web)
to be
Unfortunately, since they integrated all of our IBM IDs I no longer know what
ID and password to use on the 3270 interface; it won't accept the ones I
formerly used.
You know, I would have a hard time conceiving of something which could make a
high-tech company look worse than being unable to
An unlocked user task running PASN^+HASN issued a branch entry post with ASCB
and MEMREL=NO.
Upon return the PSW began with 04 - IO and external disabled.
A few instructions later an 0C4 occured because of a page fault while
disabled.
zOS1.7
Don't see anything obvious out there.
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To open IBMLINK issues use 1-800-543-3912
Jon L. Veilleux
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(860) 636-2683
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Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 10:49 AM
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Subject: Re: IBMLink web
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jon Brock
Unfortunately, since they integrated all of our IBM IDs I no
longer know what ID and password to use on the 3270
interface; it won't accept the ones I formerly used.
You know, I would have a hard time
The 3270 interface is not available to Canadian customers AFAIK.
Bill
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:48:38 -0400, Jon Brock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unfortunately, since they integrated all of our IBM IDs I no longer know
what ID and password to use on the 3270 interface; it won't accept the ones
I
On 27 Mar 2007 06:18:39 -0700, vikki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How should i run only step 02 in JCL as step 01 and 03 should not
run???
Is this something that will happen repeatedly, so that you will change
the JCL?
Or would it be easier to make an in-line PROC and edit out 03 for
today?
If
Sounds like you need to open an ETR, once IBMLINK comes back from the
dead.
Christopher Y. Blaicher
BMC Software, Inc.
Austin Development Labs
(512) 340-6154
The comments made are my personal opinions. BMC Software, Inc. makes no
representations or promises regarding the reliability,
On 28 Mar 2007 06:21:30 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shmuel
Metz , Seymour J.) wrote:
IBM sells lots of things, and I don't see any correlation between
sales figures and quality. The everybody else has one argument is
not an appropriate criterion for purchase decisions.
Except nowadays, everybody
On 23 Mar 2007 09:28:31 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thompson,
Steve) wrote:
No, you have one of the replacement booklets. The S/360-20 ref summary
was a yellow card, similar to the S/360 larger systems Green card. I
used to have one, but someone stole it out of my desk some years ago. I
ordered a
On 27 Mar 2007 08:04:53 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fred Hoffman)
wrote:
I do have a -1 Second Edition (September 1972). I think that is the earliest
one that I have.
Fred Hoffman
TAD
Mine says -2 Third Edition (February 1974)
The corner with the suffix of mine is worn out. I don't see any
Victor,
snip
Yesterday we tried to synchronize our Sysplex Timers with an ETS, but we
couldn't get it. My problem is I didn't find any manuals with help. It shows
an error window, but I don't know where to look for information about it.
Could you tell me where can I look for?
snip
have you seen
DCOLLECT does in fact capture MGMTCLAS and most other SMS construct information
from the VVDS
portion (VVR/NVR record, DFSMS cell info) of the catalog structure.
The DFSORT team, led by Frank Yaeger, provides a utility set to generate
reports using the
DCOLLECT-generated output, at
Howard Brazee wrote:
On 23 Mar 2007 09:28:31 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thompson,
Steve) wrote:
No, you have one of the replacement booklets. The S/360-20 ref summary
was a yellow card, similar to the S/360 larger systems Green card. I
used to have one, but someone stole it out of my desk some
_http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8O5TU180.htm_
(http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8O5TU180.htm)
** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/26/2007
at 02:57 PM, Dave Salt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Don mentioned in an earlier post that the ISPF editor is the 'gold
standard'
It isn't; it's just the vi[1] of the MVS world. The MVS world has at
least two editors with important capabilities that ISPF lacks:
Not to start another mainframe vs. the world thread, but does anyone know
the platform of the security breach?
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Subject:
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/26/2007
at 04:53 PM, Dave Salt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Why *isn't* it a limitation of ISPF? ISPF is the user interface to
the mainframe, in just the same way as Windows is the user interface
to the PC. If I'm working on my PC and I click a PDF document,
Windows
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/26/2007
at 08:39 PM, Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Yes I know about ROSCOE and the others (Wylbur etc.) and while they
are OK once you learn them I found I kept wishing that I had ISPF.
When I had ISPF and SuperWylbur® I used both and kept wishing that I
had
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/27/2007
at 02:18 AM, Dave Salt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
For one thing, you just can't beat the ability to enter line
commands.
Sure you can, with user defined[1] line commands. That's what I miss
most about XEDIT.
[1]Including supporting infrastructure.
--
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
03/27/2007
at 09:28 AM, Craddock, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
But... while you can scroll left and right and play games with
inserts and shifts and nulls and so forth, only a masochist would
claim it works well for unstructured data and long lines.
Similarly, only a
In
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 03/27/2007
at 10:01 AM, Barkow, Eileen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
While on the subject of editors, i am new to z/os Linux
There is no z/OS Linux. There is a Unix component in z/OS and there is
a Linux port; they are separate entities.
and would like to find an editor
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/25/2007
at 07:59 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Does JES2 make the necessary interfaces available to SDSF?
Does it matter? Submit a requirement against SDSF; if they need[1]
additional JES2 support they'll ask for it.
Does that suggest a requirement to
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/28/2007
at 02:58 AM, Dave Salt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
The original poster said something along the lines of I don't want
to keep scraps of paper with all my DB2 table names on it. In
support of that, I used an analogy that even though Windows doesn't
natively
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/27/2007
at 10:47 AM, Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
In a recent interview Bill Joy(author of vi) said Can't believe
anybody still uses that thing If you wondered about why? Most of
it is ergonomics. Dr. Joy is a large person. The goal(way back
then) was to
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
03/27/2007
at 11:15 AM, Craddock, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Whether that was his intent or not I can't say. He is supposed to
have banged the original out in an afternoon in frustration with the
even worse crap that was available in BSD zero dot something.
The
In
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 03/27/2007
at 11:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Along with the rest of Unix.
I used to feel that way. Until I saw Windoze.
--
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ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html
We don't care. We
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/27/2007
at 07:24 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Is KEDIT available for zLinux?
I doubt it. But why would you prefer KEDIT over THE?
Many people like THE. I haven't tried it. I fear it would too much
remind me of ISPF.
Why? It's an XEDIT clone. It's
In [EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 03/27/2007
at 02:37 PM, Jon Brock [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Sorry, folks. That was supposed to go to the linux-390 list.
It's on topic here, even if you are more likely to get an answer
there. Please consider posting the answer here if you get it.
--
Shmuel
In
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 03/28/2007
at 10:38 AM, George, William (DHS-ITSD) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
This a very possible and quite useful via Doug Nagle's LMAC or UMAC.
I've implemented it and added many line command 'macros'.
Doesn't that tie up a PFK or the command line?
IAC, XEDIT
In
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 03/28/2007
at 09:00 PM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Why are you (and others) posting requirement here?
They aren't; they're responding to the OP's outburst.
Why not do what the OP suggested, and submit them through
appropriate channels?
Maybe they have.
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/28/2007
at 12:50 PM, Pinnacle [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
This is a call to all the XEDIT freaks that have been punking ISPF
the last few days to put your money where your mouth is and submit
some SHARE requirements for the ISPF editor. I get sick and tired
of all
In
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 03/26/2007
at 12:20 PM, Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Nowadays, a programmer who did something like that would likely be
fired on the spot.
That would depend on
1. Whether he installed SimpList in system libraries
2. Whether he violated the TC for the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8O5TU180.htm)
long running related thread (over in a.f.m) most recent post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#8 Securing financial transactions a high
priority for 2007
part of most recent topic drift about why
On 29 Mar 2007 09:29:41 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shmuel
Metz , Seymour J.) wrote:
Yes I know about ROSCOE and the others (Wylbur etc.) and while they
are OK once you learn them I found I kept wishing that I had ISPF.
When I had ISPF and SuperWylbur® I used both and kept wishing that I
had
Shmuel said
at 09:28 AM, Craddock, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
But... while you can scroll left and right and play games with
inserts and shifts and nulls and so forth, only a masochist would
claim it works well for unstructured data and long lines.
Similarly, only a masochist would
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/28/2007
at 07:25 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
In an earlier post in this thread, Tom Conley mentioned a goal to
fully integrate USS functions into ISPF.
Assuming that he really means Unix System Services, that would have to
include things like UID
Tie up a PFK or command line?
== It ties up neither.
Extra infrastructure?
== Yes, it does require an initialization process when your ISPF
session is started but once you have it automated within your logon
process it is invisible and painless.
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In a message dated 3/29/2007 11:39:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
and slightly earlier post with reference to cyber thieves are hauling in
more cash than drug dealers
as well as URL references to half dozen previous posts (going back nearly to
the start of the
Jeffrey
It may be that the DSNAME etc. part of the statement was being treated as a
comment - much the same as being ignored, I suppose.
Column 1 isn't used because in assembler, from which the format is taken, a
label is recognised by *starting* in column 1 - with a maximum length of 8
Does that imply that the 750 specified for Period 1 duration
equated to approx. 0.44 clock seconds with the 2003 (1724.7 SU/sec);
exclusive of wait times, natch. And, by extension, does that mean
the period is now down to 0.11 clock seconds on our latest z/890
(8084 SU/sec)?
The short
snip
Does that imply that the 750 specified for Period 1 duration equated to
approx. 0.44 clock seconds with the 2003 (1724.7 SU/sec); exclusive of
wait times, natch. And, by extension, does that mean the period is now
down to 0.11 clock seconds on our latest z/890
(8084 SU/sec)?
The short
Shopz appear to be down also, or just incredibly slow. I'm stuck on the
signon screen for 2 mins now...
Dave Low
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/28/2007
at 08:44 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Does it also scroll when the cursor reaches the edge of the screen
with arrow key, rather than hyperspacing to the opposite edge?
Are you using the WSA? Perhaps what is really needed is requirements
On 29 Mar 2007 10:41:40 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shmuel
Metz , Seymour J.) wrote:
If people are doing that, then your charge back policies should be
reviewed. NOT, what the user is doing to get their job done.
The users' jobs include following company policies.
That is correct.But as with
Why worry?
RMF III and RMF post processor reports will both give you the
percentile breakdown of the activity (given a percentile goal). Just
adjust the duration of 750 SU's until A) 75% of transactions end in 1/2
second or less and then use that value or B) if 75% of trans are ending
wthin the
Carol
I'm making this analysis with the hindsight which Pat has provided by
requiring you to perform a resolver trace - one of his favourite traces
:-) - and this contribution is a lot about what should have happened.
This looks like you were given a job to do which included this FTP job.
Don't know if anyone has suggested this since I've not followed the thread too
closely. Has the FTP been tried from a Windows or IX platform?
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On 28 Mar 2007 13:30:53 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:15 PM
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Subject: Re: Job class enforcement was Re:
We are z/OS V1R7. I am sharing SYS1.PARMLIB between two LPAR's. One
LPAR needs more OMVS parms then the other. I thought I would used the
SYSPARM parameter of the LOAD or IEASYMxx member. This would be where I
would specify the OMVS statement. When I did the IPL the SYSPARM was
ignored. It says
When did Wylbur become SuperWylbur? I'm guessing that ACS sold it off.
The last release I messed with was 9.0 ~ 10 years ago.
snip
Yes I know about ROSCOE and the others (Wylbur etc.) and while they
are OK once you learn them I found I kept wishing that I had ISPF.
When I had ISPF and
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Behalf Of Gregory, Gary G
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 3:07 PM
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Subject: Question about SuperWylbur
When did Wylbur become SuperWylbur? I'm guessing that ACS sold it off.
The
-snip
Just got back from teaching a class (my first payable work this year,
and my backlog is now back to zero; but, that's all for a different post
that I may never put out).
Anyway, the client contact told me they havebeen moving work off the
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Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 3:18 PM
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Subject: Re: A little good news for MF
SNIP
ISTM that all the security breaches that seem to make the printed rags
I've never attempted to change a jobname in the JES2 exits or anywhere else, but
I'll take a stab at this...
Giovanni Santuz wrote:
...
Here the EXIT (contains exit02 and EXIT52):
...
L R9,X002JXWR Points to 80 byte Workarea
L R7,X002CARD
---snip--
Oops, DITTO online edit before I use - ICCF -.
I never got to experience the wonder that is SPMOL. That's probably a good
thing.
unsnip
Unless you've got a padded office and a masochistic streak, you
In a message dated 3/29/2007 3:07:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
When did Wylbur become SuperWylbur?
To add a little more to Steve Thompson's reply:
WYLBUR, and its required telecommunications component ORVYL (might not have
spelled that one right, but how
waiting to see the reply to that one ...
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snip
SORT macro
On the command line, SORT x y will sort the currently-edited
or -viewed member using column x for a length of y as the
sort key. It
snip
Some jobs are real problems. For instance, we had one that required six
tape drives (out of eight), and lots of work space. We had a special
class, without a matching initiator, and required the jobs for that
class to be scheduled by Operations.
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:48:00 +0200, Chris Mason
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A few comments and glosses on Chris's comments.
... resolver trace - one of his favourite traces :-)
And not a comment about someone having a favorite trace.
Chris could have added ... sick puppy
... first time
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Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 3:20 PM
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Mark, we've used M for years with CLPA. I think the use of CLPA was
discussed on IBM-MAIN fairly recently. Unless you want to preserve VIO
data there isn't a good reason to NOT do it each IPL. It doesn't
increase the IPL time noticeably.
You could set up two BPXPRMxx members and select the
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:40:14 EDT, IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote:
WYLBUR, and its required telecommunications component ORVYL (might not
have
spelled that one right, but how clever), were developed at NIH and thus were
in the public domain.
I believe that WYLBUR came from Stanford
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Subject: Re: Question about SuperWylbur
In a message dated 3/29/2007 3:07:20 P.M. Central
In a message dated 3/29/2007 3:45:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Some jobs are real problems.
Which is, or was long ago, a very good reason to define and rigorously
enforce job classes. I worked on a massive local mod to JES2 in 1977 that
determined many
snip-
If I remember correctly IBM has/had Batch Workload Analysis Tools.
They used to be free. They took SMF info and compared your workload with
other processors.
Just a thought!
--unsnip-
Another thought:
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 3:52 PM
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Subject: Re: Question about SuperWylbur
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:40:14 EDT, IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote:
Okay, this is probably the dumbest question of the day, maybe of the month.
I am in a discussion with someone and I need some backup for my way of
thinking.
If a jobstep reports, for example
IEF374I STEP/STEP0010/STOP 2007086.1135 CPU0MIN 00.02SEC
then it is reporting .02 seconds on a
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:19:26 -0400, Pinnacle
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
How do you know they haven't?
...
Because I'm the SHARE requirements coordinator for ISPF.
...
Tom,
Even if you weren't the coordinator you could know. SHARE members
registered for a project's requirements can see the
Hey, wait a minute guys.
I think that there is a bit of confusion on DUR and how TSO
transactions transit to Period 2.
1. Duration is the amount of service that a period should consume
before going on the next period. This is NOT service units per
second, but is total service units
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Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:01 PM
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Subject: What's a CPU second?
Okay, this is probably the dumbest question of the day, maybe of the
month.
I am in a
Not true regarding what you call major key. The keys do not need to be
in left to right order, but the concept of primary (major) and secondary
(minor) keys still applied.
SORT 1 5 A 11 15 D
may give different results than
SORT 11 15 D 1 5 A
Don Imbriale
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If a jobstep reports, for example
IEF374I STEP/STEP0010/STOP 2007086.1135 CPU0MIN 00.02SEC
then it is reporting .02 seconds on a single CPU of the box, is that
correct? This number would presumably be little changed if the same box
went from,
say, a 4-way to an 8-way, is that correct? In
When I worked on WYLBUR at AMA, the communications component was MILTEN
and consisted mainly of one huge I/O Appendage. ORVYL was the desktop
publishing component.
(For those that might care: Milton was the father of Wylbur and Orville
Wright.)
snip--
Another thought: SNAPSHOT.
Wasn't cheap!
May 2005.
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In a message dated 3/29/2007 4:01:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If a jobstep reports, for example
IEF374I STEP/STEP0010/STOP 2007086.1135 CPU0MIN 00.02SEC
then it is reporting .02 seconds on a single CPU of the box, is that
correct?
To answer only this part
You're absolutely right, however there are a few additional
considerations when examining TSO that are worth considering.
1. Duration is the amount of service that a period should consume
before going on the next period. This is NOT service units per
second, but is total service units
Sam,
there is also an undocumented IEAOPTxx parm SHORTWAITMIN.
Unfortunally no idea what this means or does.
Thanks for the posting. I agree excellent article!!!
BTW: SHOWzOS 715 (next version) will show the RMPTTOM value
among other SRM parms from IEAOPTxx if I discover how
RMPTTOM=2000
Total time on all processors. We had a job that ran 60 seconds elapsed
time and used 180 seconds of CPU time. It was running on a 4-way box,
and no it was not in a loop. Just a lot of CPU intensive processing
with multi-tasking.
Christopher Y. Blaicher
BMC Software, Inc.
Austin Development
In a recent note, Chris Mason said:
Subject: Re: IEHLIST Error?
Be thankful, the column 16 rule - and the column 72 rule - used to apply to
JCL statements if my memory hasn't broken down completely...
No cause for gratitude. In some contexts they still apply.
And I've just verified
ORVYL is the product of a number of years of development of timesharing
resources on IBM hardware at Stanford. From its introduction in the late
sixties as a timesharing monitor on an IBM 9672, ORVYL has become a powerful
timesharing system, taking full advantage of expanded OS/390 hardware
Gee, thanks everybody for telling me about MP overhead and SRB time and
time-slicing and the rationale for MSUs. g
Would someone care to go out on a limb and give me a direct yes or no on my
basic question?
If a jobstep is reported to have used .02 CPU seconds, for example, that
means it spent
Charles wrote on 30/03/2007 09:07:59 AM:
Would someone care to go out on a limb and give me a direct yes or no on
my
basic question?
Yes.
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Charles,
Like Bill explained in his reply, the time reported is the time your program
spent in execution regardless of how many processors it was dispatch on.
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Thanks all.
It's not the number of processors dispatched on issue that I was
clarifying. It's the total number of processors/total horsepower of the
box issue that I am having a discussion with someone about.
He is having difficulty accepting that one CPU second on a 100 MSU box is
the same
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