Re: DB2 queries without using MF.

2008-01-24 Thread R.S.
McKown, John wrote: [...] Personally, I shudder. Talk about a massive violation of security. ??? What is the violation? Of course, this is why I would __NEVER__ store z/OS data on anything other than z/OS DASD (no, not even FlexCUB). What about other mainframe users, which have READ to the

Re: Accounting for SRB time

2008-01-24 Thread Ron Hawkins
Ed, Seeing as captured SRB time is attributed directly to the address the owning address space, why wouldn't you include SRB time in your billing. In fact CPU Time for billing nowadays usually includes IO interrupt time, RCT Time (swapping) and Hyperspace access. I believe IBM has stayed with

Re: DB2 queries without using MF.

2008-01-24 Thread shai hess
It's likely that your z/OS DASD can be accessed by open systems as well. Or badly-managed z/OS system. It is a matter of connectivity. In fact we talk about physical security here. Same means could apply to Shai's PC or Support Element, or HMC, or OSA-ICC consoles. I agree that we talk about

HLASM HLASM Toolkit

2008-01-24 Thread Jie J Zhang
Hi, Any one know if HLASM is included in z/OS 1.9? There is only one product named HLASM Toolkit in the z/OS V1.9, which is chargeable. If I want to use HLASM only, do I need to order the toolkit? Or HLASM is included in z/OS V1.9, HLASM toolkit is totally a different product from HLASM.

racdcert

2008-01-24 Thread Barbara Nitz
My colleague came across the following while testing key rings and rsa encryption: He checked the FM to find out that he can set the size of the key via racdcert from anything between 512 and 9. We had it set to 1024, so he tried 2048 to make the encryption harder to break, given that

subpool of a user shared HFS

2008-01-24 Thread Barbara Nitz
I came across an interesting discrepancy (IMO) when looking at an Java OOM dump: Verbx vsmdata tells me that subpool *230* is about 300MB big. Looking at that storage, it is occupied (mostly) by user shared libraries (.so) as shared storage with USS dataspace bpxdl001. Every one of those

Re: racdcert

2008-01-24 Thread Shane
On Thu, 2008-01-24 at 10:59 +0100, Barbara Nitz wrote: Our conclusion: Big 'brother' is watching you, all the better to break your encryption and spy on all you non-Americans! And the first person that mentions clipper chip in response to this owes me a beer. D'oh ... time to visit the

AIX CICS TRANSACTION GATEWAY EPI QUESTION

2008-01-24 Thread Yan Ying
HI ALL, Who have exprience on convert old mainframe CICS 3270 to Web base. I know CTG provide EPI to support this function.But menu said The EPIRequest class is not supported with WebSphere Application Server. Use the EPI support classes (Terminal, Screen, and Field) instead. Is this

Problems with SNA Consoles in Z/OS V1R8

2008-01-24 Thread Miguel Villar
Hello. We need help. Till now we were working with SMCS in Z/OS V1R6 and TN3270E emulations (Personal Coomunications 5.8 for Windows) without any problems. Since we migrated to Z/OS V1R8, SMCS and TN3270E emulations hang when we try to write something in the console. But if we work with an old

Re: racdcert

2008-01-24 Thread Walt Farrell
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:59:10 +0100, Barbara Nitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My colleague came across the following while testing key rings and rsa encryption: He checked the FM to find out that he can set the size of the key via racdcert from anything between 512 and 9. We had it set to 1024,

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

2008-01-24 Thread Peter Relson
Do the contents of the ECB other than the WAIT and POST bits matter to WAIT? no. Although, when the WAIT bit is on, they do matter to POST. IOW, instead of XC ECB,ECB (or CS) would it suffice to do as little as MVI ECB,x'3F' yes Even though task synchronization and resource serialization are

Re: What Now?

2008-01-24 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
Thanks, Mark. I'll check your utilities. We're TLMS, no CopyCat. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: Accounting for SRB time

2008-01-24 Thread Ed Gould
On Jan 24, 2008, at 2:11 AM, Ron Hawkins wrote: Ed, Seeing as captured SRB time is attributed directly to the address the owning address space, why wouldn't you include SRB time in your billing. In fact CPU Time for billing nowadays usually includes IO interrupt time, RCT Time

Re: racdcert

2008-01-24 Thread Barbara Nitz
Walt, thanks for your response. I don't know what book my colleague read, either, but I forwarded your reply. From what I understand, the crypto card in the z9 is currently enabled but not used. My colleague will test again with an enabled card (I think). best regards, Barbara -- GMX

Re: HLASM HLASM Toolkit

2008-01-24 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jie J Zhang Hi, Any one know if HLASM is included in z/OS 1.9? HLASM is the system assembler since long ago, and is included as part of the base z/OS. There is only one product named HLASM Toolkit in the z/OS

Re: racdcert

2008-01-24 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Barbara Nitz My colleague came across the following while testing key rings and rsa encryption: He checked the FM to find out that he can set the size of the key via racdcert from anything between 512 and

Re: HLASM HLASM Toolkit

2008-01-24 Thread John Eells
All the elements and optional features of z/OS are listed in this handy table in z/OS Planning for Installation: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/E0Z2B181/1.1.1?SHELF=EZ2ZO10jDT=20071026163047 As you can see, HLASM is a base element of z/OS, which is to say that it's

Dynamic tape in Rexx?

2008-01-24 Thread Jeffrey Deaver
We would like to dynamically copy a file to tape inside a Rexx routine. But we're having trouble getting the new tape allocate to work in Rexx... ALLOC DA('DSN') F(SYSUT2) NEW KEEP UNIT(TAPE) PRIVATE This doesn't work as the volser PRIVATE, which would we typically use in JCL, is not accepted.

Re: DFHSM QUESTION : ATTEMPTING TO FIND MIGRAT2 VOLSER

2008-01-24 Thread Joel C. Ewing
If HSM logs are being retained, they also contain similar information. Another possibility is to restore a backup of the MCDS either under a different name or on a test system from a time when the ds was still on ML2 and find the record corresponding to the dataset. Also, see discussion of

Re: Co:Z Co-Processing Toolkit for z/OS is now FREE

2008-01-24 Thread Doc Farmer
Looks like a tool that will require some serious security review in order to implement it properly. On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:02:27 -0600, Kirk Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dovetailed Technologies announces today that the Co:Z Co-Processing Toolkit for z/OS is now free for use, under the terms

Re: Problems with SNA Consoles in Z/OS V1R8

2008-01-24 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 05:29:37 -0600, Miguel Villar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. We need help. Till now we were working with SMCS in Z/OS V1R6 and TN3270E emulations (Personal Coomunications 5.8 for Windows) without any problems. Since we migrated to Z/OS V1R8, SMCS and TN3270E emulations hang

Re: CA Aiming to Ease Mainframe licensing Costs

2008-01-24 Thread Doc Farmer
Here's an abbreviated link: http://tinyurl.com/2pvurx And here's the story: * CA aiming to ease mainframe software licensing costs By Mark Fontecchio, News Writer 23 Jan 2008 | SearchDataCenter.com CA Inc. has announced a new

Re: IEFACTRT exit

2008-01-24 Thread O'Connor, Ruth
Thanks. We'll look into that parameter. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: RES: IEFACTRT exit And you can try VSM

Re: HLASM HLASM Toolkit

2008-01-24 Thread Robert Wright
Jie J Zhang wrote: There is only one product named HLASM Toolkit in the z/OS V1.9, which is chargeable. If I want to use HLASM only, do I need to order the toolkit? Or HLASM is included in z/OS V1.9, HLASM toolkit is totally a different product from HLASM. John Eells already responded

Re: DB2 queries without using MF.

2008-01-24 Thread Mohammad Khan
What kind of access tool are you talking about - SQL or something else ? If it's SQL, how compatible will it be with DB2 SQL ? With good SQL support, it could be a useful tool for warehouse kind of queries. On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:49:35 -0800, shai hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Yes,

Re: CA Aiming to Ease Mainframe licensing Costs

2008-01-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Because MIPS is a measure of processor speed alone, it has come under fire for its inaccuracy as a measure of how well a system performs. Other factors, such as memory and I/O bandwidth, affect how well software executes within the mainframe. This is why IBM began licensing its software

Re: CA Aiming to Ease Mainframe licensing Costs

2008-01-24 Thread Kelman, Tom
Well, we do have a kind of sub-capacity pricing contract with CA for TopSecret based on MSUs (the software kind - see below). It doesn't work like IBM's sub-capacity pricing. It looks more like a cell phone contact. You pay a flat fee for up to a certain level of MSU use each month. If you go

Re: CA Aiming to Ease Mainframe licensing Costs

2008-01-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Now, if they are talking about the original SUs per second value that's been around forever then that might be considered a good measure of processor power. Not really. IBM uses LSPR to set the value, but LSPR has different throughputs depending on the workload tested. And, only one value is

Re: Problems with SNA Consoles in Z/OS V1R8

2008-01-24 Thread George Fogg
Zeldon said: BTDTGTTT. PCOMM release 5.8 added support for Contention Resolution. This needs to be turned off. To turn it off, add the following to the Telnet3270 section of the WS file using notepad: OK, I give, what's BTDTGTTT? George Fogg

z/OS 1.8 or 1.9 ?

2008-01-24 Thread Dean Montevago
Hi, We're running 1.7 now. We're planning an upgrade, does anyone have an opinion on whether to go to 1.8 or 1.9 ? TIA Dean Dean Montevago Sr. Systems Specialist Visiting Nurse Service of New York (212) 609 - 9608 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Problems with SNA Consoles in Z/OS V1R8

2008-01-24 Thread Kelman, Tom
Well BTDTGTT means Been There, Done That, Got The T-shirt. I don't know what the final T means. Tom Kelman Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Fogg Sent: Thursday, January

Re: z/OS 1.8 or 1.9 ?

2008-01-24 Thread Horne, Jim - James S
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Re: Problems with SNA Consoles in Z/OS V1R8

2008-01-24 Thread R.S.
George Fogg wrote: Zeldon said: BTDTGTTT. PCOMM release 5.8 added support for Contention Resolution. This needs to be turned off. To turn it off, add the following to the Telnet3270 section of the WS file using notepad: OK, I give, what's BTDTGTTT? I think it should be BTDTGTS - Been

Re: Problems with SNA Consoles in Z/OS V1R8

2008-01-24 Thread Mark Zelden
The final T means I Type Too fast. :-) BTW, it's ZeldEn... not O. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at

Re: Problems with SNA Consoles in Z/OS V1R8

2008-01-24 Thread Howard Brazee
On 24 Jan 2008 07:20:11 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kelman, Tom) wrote: Well BTDTGTT means Been There, Done That, Got The T-shirt. I don't know what the final T means. Maybe it's like Fortran, where the final letter is the last letter of Formula-Translation...

Re: z/OS 1.8 or 1.9 ?

2008-01-24 Thread George Mitjans
z/os 1.8 drop date is 9/2009 I would go with z/os 1.9 and have a longer time between upgrades. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN

Re: z/OS 1.8 or 1.9 ?

2008-01-24 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Dean Montevago Hi, We're running 1.7 now. We're planning an upgrade, does anyone have an opinion on whether to go to 1.8 or 1.9 ? Since 1.9 is the currently available release, you might find it difficult at

Re: z/OS 1.8 or 1.9 ?

2008-01-24 Thread Robert Justice
at this point, considering 1.10 will be out in 8 months, I would go with 1.9 if I were you. also, 1.8 will not be co-existence supported with 1.11 http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/support/zos_cmf.html -- For

Re: Co:Z Co-Processing Toolkit for z/OS is now FREE

2008-01-24 Thread Kirk Wolf
Don, Spoken like a true security consultant :-) But seriously - we would welcome any comments or questions that you have. It might be good to add something to our documentation to address any common concerns. Co:Z uses SSH to connect from z/OS to the remote server and start the remote agent

Re: z/OS 1.8 or 1.9 ?

2008-01-24 Thread Steve Comstock
Dean Montevago wrote: Hi, We're running 1.7 now. We're planning an upgrade, does anyone have an opinion on whether to go to 1.8 or 1.9 ? TIA Dean Dean Montevago Sr. Systems Specialist Visiting Nurse Service of New York (212) 609 - 9608 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isn't that amazing? ISTR it was not

Re: z/OS 1.8 or 1.9 ?

2008-01-24 Thread Burrell, C. Todd (CDC/OCOO/ITSO) (CTR)
We are currently on 1.8, and I am working on the 1.9 upgrade right now. Due to MANY issues with IDCAMS with 1.8, I'd just go to 1.9. It appears that many of the LISTCAT issues with IDCAMS were fixed in 1.9. There were many quirks in LISTCAT in 1.8 that made it a pain to deal with... C. Todd

Re: z/OS 1.8 or 1.9 ?

2008-01-24 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Robert Justice at this point, considering 1.10 will be out in 8 months, I would go with 1.9 if I were you. also, 1.8 will not be co-existence supported with 1.11

Re: Co:Z Co-Processing Toolkit for z/OS is now FREE

2008-01-24 Thread Kirk Wolf
Sorry Doc, I finger-checked your name. On Jan 24, 2008 9:43 AM, Kirk Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don, Spoken like a true security consultant :-) But seriously - we would welcome any comments or questions that you have. It might be good to add something to our documentation to address any

Re: z/OS 1.8 or 1.9 ?

2008-01-24 Thread Dean Montevago
1.9 it is !! Thanks everyone for the info. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: CA Aiming to Ease Mainframe licensing Costs

2008-01-24 Thread Ken Porowski
If CA's aim was to lower costs (for us that is) they could have reduced the per MIPS pricing. By switching the metric to MSU they don't have issues with existing contracts and can lower prices and even add sub-capacity pricing via SCRT. The goal could also be to get existing contracts rewritten to

Re: CA Aiming to Ease Mainframe licensing Costs

2008-01-24 Thread Anton Britz
Hi, CA aiming to lower costs ? Sending Consultants to your site for FREE to help you with CA products ? Am I wactching the comedy channel or the Political Cable Channels in the USA. Now I know how certain political candidates win Elections in the USA. Unbelievable stuff this and you have to

Re: z/OS 1.8 or 1.9 ?

2008-01-24 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:45:21 -0500, Burrell, C. Todd (CDC/OCOO/ITSO) (CTR) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are currently on 1.8, and I am working on the 1.9 upgrade right now. Due to MANY issues with IDCAMS with 1.8, I'd just go to 1.9. It appears that many of the LISTCAT issues with IDCAMS were

Re: Problems with SNA Consoles in Z/OS V1R8

2008-01-24 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 09:25:10 -0600, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The final T means I Type Too fast. :-) BTW, it's ZeldEn... not O. (off list) Wouldn't that be TTF? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Accounting for SRB time

2008-01-24 Thread Ron Hawkins
ED, I've have never observed SRB time to vary so much across MVS versions and releases, but I started with MVS/XA, Things may have been different in earlier versions. However, if the address space is burning the SRB CPU time then the user must still be responsible for the cost. If you ignore SRB

Re: z/OS 1.8 or 1.9 ?

2008-01-24 Thread Edward Jaffe
Chase, John wrote: Hmmm Does this represent a departure from the previous n+3 philosophy? N+3 support died with semi-annual release some time ago. Now, a system is supported for three years and will coexist with any other currently supported system. A much simpler philosophy. --

VPS/X

2008-01-24 Thread David Hanson
We are looking to install VPSX on z/LINUX to offload the AFP - PCL conversion work from our genral purpose processor. We are looking for anybody with experience doing this to answer a few questions. Anybody out there ? Thanks, Dave.

Re: DB2 queries without using MF.

2008-01-24 Thread shai hess
I talk about SQL for queries only. But this is a little early to talk about the SQL before I find out how many people like such a tool. Thanks, Shai On 1/24/08, Mohammad Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What kind of access tool are you talking about - SQL or something else ? If it's SQL, how

Re: Accounting for SRB time

2008-01-24 Thread Bob Shannon
However, if the address space is burning the SRB CPU time then the user must still be responsible for the cost We had this discussion when I worked at a large insurance company twenty years ago. I wanted to charge for SRB time; the ops manager didn't. I said that after step one of a 99 step

Re: Accounting for SRB time

2008-01-24 Thread Edward Jaffe
Bob Shannon wrote: However, if the address space is burning the SRB CPU time then the user must still be responsible for the cost We had this discussion when I worked at a large insurance company twenty years ago. I wanted to charge for SRB time; the ops manager didn't. I said that

Re: Accounting for SRB time

2008-01-24 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 07:03:10 -0600, Ed Gould wrote: Division can't budget if their work doesn't change. Now granted you can always charge more but then the users get upset, they do want consistency for budget purposes. IMO, there has been far too much worry about consistency in billing over the

Re: Dynamic tape in Rexx?

2008-01-24 Thread Hal Merritt
First, dynamically allocating tape drives is a bit tricky. IIRC, the allocation fails if there are none available because only an authorized caller can wait. Second, I've never heard of the use of 'private' in JCL. It's either a real serial number or not specified. It appears as PRIVAT in some

Re: Accounting for SRB time

2008-01-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]@sbcglobal.net, on 01/24/2008 at 12:11 AM, Ron Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Seeing as captured SRB time is attributed directly to the address the owning address space, why wouldn't you include SRB time in your billing. Because ir's not repeatable. -- Shmuel

Re: Parm Length restriction was Re: Using an InfoPrint 6500 with PSF

2008-01-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/23/2008 at 03:22 PM, Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: We have discussed on IBM-MAIN plenty of times about the restriction of 100 characters in the parm field. The PSF proc is an example what IBM had to go through in order to get around the 100 character max. I

Re: Home (address space) level name/token pair question

2008-01-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/23/2008 at 03:00 PM, Craddock, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Beyond that, you would need to create a global name/token pair to refer to the life-of-address-space storage because nothing else is going to survive termination of the job step that created that

Re: Accounting for SRB time

2008-01-24 Thread Michael Poil
Interesting thread, but maybe an ambiguous subject title on reflection. What I really wanted to find out about is what kicks off SRB activity, e.g. in the scenario we have used product set A in the past and now we use product set B and the SRB time has increased by a noticeable percentage -

Re: Dynamic tape in Rexx?

2008-01-24 Thread Mark Zelden
What error do you get? Also, don't you need TSO MOUNT authority to use ALLOCATE for a tape from TSO (or TSO/REXX)? DO you have that authority? Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Dynamic tape in Rexx?

2008-01-24 Thread Tony Harminc
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 08:23:04 -0600, Jeffrey Deaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We would like to dynamically copy a file to tape inside a Rexx routine. But we're having trouble getting the new tape allocate to work in Rexx... ALLOC DA('DSN') F(SYSUT2) NEW KEEP UNIT(TAPE) PRIVATE This doesn't work

Re: CA Aiming to Ease Mainframe licensing Costs

2008-01-24 Thread Greg Shirey
We renewed our license for Easytrieve and FAVER and converted to sub-capacity pricing. We paid a yearly license fee based on a certain MSU level and will provide the SCRT outputs quarterly to CA. If we exceed the base MSU level, we will be billed $30 per MSU per month we were over the base. We

Re: Z Co-Processing Toolkit for z/OS is now FREE

2008-01-24 Thread McKown, John
Got it and am playing around with it now. I have run into one problem as follows: quote DtlSpawn[N]: Copyright (C) 2005-2006 Dovetailed Technologies LLC. All rights reserved. DtlSpawn[N]: version 1.0.3 2008-01-23 DtlSpawn[I]: executing progname=login-shell=/usr/local/bin/bash DtlSpawn[I]:

Re: Dynamic tape in Rexx?

2008-01-24 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Private is not an ALLOCATE command parameter. If it is the volume serial number use VOLUME(volume) parameter. I would ignore this parameter at all and get a scratch tape, as you specified NEW as the disposition. Your tape management product will find you one. Itschak Itschak Mugzach, Director

Re: Problems with SNA Consoles in Z/OS V1R8

2008-01-24 Thread Miguel Villar
Thank you very much Mark. We are going to try it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: DB2 queries without using MF.

2008-01-24 Thread Rob Wunderlich
Is it can be useful to develop in the PC, api for DB2? The API will use my MFNetDisk 3390 data and the response time will be very very good from PC or any open systems platform? This would be *very* useful if 1. It could be done without using the mainframe. 2. It supported JDBC ODBC APIs. 3.

Re: Parm Length restriction was Re: Using an InfoPrint 6500 with PSF

2008-01-24 Thread Kirk Talman
I have yet to find a way to access the information on an output statement. Can you give a hint as to where to find it? curious pup IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 01/23/2008 05:11:23 PM: And you just came up with a bit of a methodology that could be used (with

Re: Z Co-Processing Toolkit for z/OS is now FREE

2008-01-24 Thread Kirk Wolf
John, Thanks for pointing this out. It seems that we assume that the default shell can accept -L to mean a login shell, which doesn't work for bash (it will accept -l or --login ). What we should be doing is spawning the shell with a leading dash in arg[0], which is more universally accepted by

Re: Accounting for SRB time

2008-01-24 Thread Craddock, Chris
What I really wanted to find out about is what kicks off SRB activity, e.g. in the scenario we have used product set A in the past and now we use product set B and the SRB time has increased by a noticeable percentage - why? How long is a piece of string? As Ed Jaffe pointed out, lots of

Re: Accounting for SRB time

2008-01-24 Thread Ed Gould
On Jan 24, 2008, at 10:08 AM, Ron Hawkins wrote: ED, I've have never observed SRB time to vary so much across MVS versions and releases, but I started with MVS/XA, Things may have been different in earlier versions. However, if the address space is burning the SRB CPU time then the user

Re: Home (address space) level name/token pair question

2008-01-24 Thread Craddock, Chris
Beyond that, you would need to create a global name/token pair to refer to the life-of-address-space storage because nothing else is going to survive termination of the job step that created that name/token pair. Shirley all of the control blocks pertaining to the Initiator will survive.

Re: z/OS 1.8 or 1.9 ?

2008-01-24 Thread Glen Gasior
We will go from 1.7 to 1.9 U.S. Railroad Retirement Board On 1/24/08, Dean Montevago [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We're running 1.7 now. We're planning an upgrade, does anyone have an opinion on whether to go to 1.8 or 1.9 ? TIA Dean Dean Montevago Sr. Systems Specialist Visiting

Re: Accounting for SRB time

2008-01-24 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip-- Lots of good information there for him. You might want to add that trying to do a charge back system that includes SRB is to say the least iffy. Its not clear that is what the person was asking but I am sure it will come up along the way. I

Re: z/OS 1.8 or 1.9 ?

2008-01-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Unless you have major issues with software running on the latest release, I would always recommend the most current available, when upgrading. And, this would include all software, not just the OS. - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: How does ATTACH pass address of ECB to child?

2008-01-24 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 07:26:55 -0500, Peter Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I disagree. Especially when the thread gets into pointing out the deficiencies of wait/post as a serialization mechanism. Not surprising. It really isn't one. ... What? Not for serialization? And not for queueing?

Re: Parm Length restriction was Re: Using an InfoPrint 6500 with PSF

2008-01-24 Thread Ed Gould
On Jan 24, 2008, at 8:39 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/23/2008 at 03:22 PM, Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: We have discussed on IBM-MAIN plenty of times about the restriction of 100 characters in the parm field. The PSF proc is an example what IBM

Re: z/OS 1.8 or 1.9 ?

2008-01-24 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Going to the current release also depends on how far behind you are. If you're farther than N+2, you can't upgrade more than 2 releases and still be supported. If you are currently at 1.6, you can't go furthur than 1.8 and remain supported by IBM. Chances are you won't having any problems

Re: New Mainframes coming in February

2008-01-24 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I don't quite understand the confusion either between BC and EC. I always kept them straight by remembering that B is before E in the alphabet, so therefore the BC is the smaller one. Also, you can think B for Basic. Eric Timothy Sipples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ted, what are the

Re: z/OS 1.8 or 1.9 ?

2008-01-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Going to the current release also depends on how far behind you are. If you're farther than N+2, you can't upgrade more than 2 releases and still be supported. If you are currently at 1.6, you can't go furthur than 1.8 and remain supported by IBM. Chances are you won't having any problems

Re: z/OS 1.8 or 1.9 ?

2008-01-24 Thread Matthew Stitt
Actually you can go to 1.9. Support is N+3, not N+2. However JES2 might be the problem, as there were major changes that required many companies to rewrite their exits when they upgraded to 1.7 or higher. On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:14:13 -0600, Eric Bielefeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Going to the

Re: New Mainframes coming in February

2008-01-24 Thread Matthew Stitt
To me (and IBM) they are (B)usiness and (E)nterprise class machines. On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:14:49 -0600, Eric Bielefeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't quite understand the confusion either between BC and EC. I always kept them straight by remembering that B is before E in the alphabet, so

Re: New Mainframes coming in February

2008-01-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
To me (and IBM) they are (B)usiness and (E)nterprise class machines. The confusion comes with the overlap and all the zIIP/zAAP options. I don't have a problem; my management did. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For

Generic DB2 PCI Spec / DB2 Equivalent to IBM Main?

2008-01-24 Thread Marty Stahl
Hi Folks, A DB2 pal has asked me to hang a question to see if anyone has found a good generic PCI Compliance Spec for DB2 Tables. She has concluded ours should be seriously reworked and is looking for good ideas. On a related topic, she also had not heard of IBM Main and will be signing up.

Re: Generic DB2 PCI Spec / DB2 Equivalent to IBM Main?

2008-01-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
So, if someone knows of something like this listserv for DB2 folks, let me know. I don't think it's very active; there used to be one. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: z/OS 1.8 or 1.9 ?

2008-01-24 Thread Bob Rutledge
Matthew Stitt wrote: Actually you can go to 1.9. Support is N+3, not N+2. http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/support/zos_cmf.html Bob -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Warning: Co:Z Co-Processing Toolkit for z/OS bug

2008-01-24 Thread Kirk Wolf
There is a nasty bug in the product, which is fixed in the latest version 1.0.4 which have have just released. If you are running the previous version, please update to V 1.0.4. The bug affects users who run the batch CO:Z launcher with certain configurations AND under a userid with certain

Re: Generic DB2 PCI Spec / DB2 Equivalent to IBM Main?

2008-01-24 Thread Tom Moulder
The IDUG DB2-L Listserv is only part of your membership in IDUG. DB2-L list archives, the FAQ, and delivery preferences are at http://www.idug.org/lsidug under the Listserv tab. While at the site, you can also access the IDUG Online Learning Center, Tech Library and Code Place, see the latest

Initapi errno 156

2008-01-24 Thread Scott Ford
Hi all, I am running a z/OS 1.6 system and we are developing software using the IP stack. One of our LPARS runs Top Secret and TCPIP and all of its applications. I have written a Cobol STC that executes the following Cobol Statement. Call 'EZASOKET' USING SOKET-INITAPI MAXSOC INITAPI-IDENT

Re: Parm Length restriction was Re: Using an InfoPrint 6500 with PSF

2008-01-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:11:23 -0600, McKown, John wrote: And you just came up with a bit of a methodology that could be used (with some difficulty) in our own application programs. In a step which wants a PARM value 100 characters, use something like: // PARM='abcd ' where abcd is the label of an

Re: New Mainframes coming in February

2008-01-24 Thread Phil Smith III
Matthew Stitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To me (and IBM) they are (B)usiness and (E)nterprise class machines. Uh...ok. And the difference between a 'business' and an 'enterprise' is? I remember when 'enterprise' was the new word for a business. That really doesn't help. The arcana of IBM

Re: Dynamic tape in Rexx?

2008-01-24 Thread Bruce Hewson
Hello Jeffrey, I know this one! 1. Running REXX in batch and using ALLOC assume you are running in a background TSO session. 2. The user running the job must have MOUNT authority to request allocation of TAPE devices. 3. The userid running the job must not exceed 7 characters, otherwise the

Re: DB2 queries without using MF.

2008-01-24 Thread Timothy Sipples
Rob Wunderlich writes: JDBC/ODBC access to z/os DB2 works well, but it's expensive (relative term). I think you used the word perceived elsewhere, and there are those perceptions, yes. It's a multi-party effort to make sure the truth is understood. The cost for drivers, whether DB2 Connect or

Re: Everyone who work with MFNetDisk, please intsall the newest version.

2008-01-24 Thread Shai Hess
HI, People who work with old version of MFNetDisk, must install the newest version from my site. Yes, I know that using the old version can work, but the last version fix a lot of errors recovery problems and the performence is much better and also some bugs in the MF and the PC. My

Re: Parm Length restriction was Re: Using an InfoPrint 6500 with PSF

2008-01-24 Thread Bruce Hewson
Hi Gil, I wonder if your null parameter is misinterpreting your quotes...something like the rule that to support imbedded quote, you must code two in sequence, the first as an escape character.. normally I have seen a null parm coded as adjacent comma's. //OUT01OUTPUT USERDATA=('A',,'C')

Re: AIX CICS TRANSACTION GATEWAY EPI QUESTION

2008-01-24 Thread Timothy Sipples
YY, If you're programming using EPI in WebSphere Application Server with CICS Transaction Gateway, you may want to refer to the EPI sample code included with CTG. I'm copying this section of the CICS Transaction Gateway V7.1 InfoCenter for reference: - - - - - The EPI Sample consists of a

Re: Dynamic tape in Rexx?

2008-01-24 Thread Ed Gould
The first question I would ask do you have TSO mount auth? Ed -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Deaver Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 8:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Dynamic tape in Rexx? We would like to

Re: Problems with SNA Consoles in Z/OS V1R8

2008-01-24 Thread Timothy Sipples
Miguel, Disabling contention resolution on the client might be a temporary workaround, but I wouldn't recommend that as a permanent workaround. Contention resolution is a very good thing to have enabled -- it can dramatically speed up things like macros -- and you can just about guarantee you'll

Re: DB2 queries without using MF.

2008-01-24 Thread shai hess
I agree with you. To develop the support for DB2 queries in PC without accessing the MF is complicate mission. I will do it only if many people will ask me to do this feature. But I think that the benefit of accessing the DB2 from PC can save a lot of money because it will save the people the

Re: Co:Z Co-Processing Toolkit for z/OS is now FREE

2008-01-24 Thread Timothy Sipples
Kirk, It's worth mentioning, from the narrow view of network encryption, that you could traverse a HiperSocket to Linux on z using the unencrypted socket connection and not have to worry about anyone intercepting the data. There are many other security issues to consider, but that's one way to

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