Hi,
We have a client that has installed the VTA system fro Universal software.
Until now, we sent them cartridges with various files, now they want to receive
the files in AWStape format.
I found a program called VTT2DISK that reads a tape and creates an AWStape file.
Does anyone know of
Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:53:44 -0500, David Eisenberg wrote:
Yikes!
Our programmers occasionally ZAP a load module in a test load library, which is
fine. When the time comes to promote the load module into a production load
library, however, I would like our change
We're currently trying to generate XML output by a EntCOB program.
Generally it works, however we couldn't yet manage to create the structure
of
var id=... v=.../
in the following example:
dataApp id=Datenbeschaffer
callMode=SWITCH
callTerm=TERM
stencilId=SCL12345
var id=KDN
As the ASSB fields mentioned are not programming interfaces, no additional
information will be provided as to their meaning and use.
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I recently had a problem where the software and hardware control blocks in
my ts3500(3584) got out of sync. The short of it is, encryption got enabled
on the drives and the C06's got iml'd with the library active. We still had
one path to the drives, but lost the others. Flipping on encryption
Hey, the price is right:
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Are there any control
There is no message on the console.
In the log of the job, there are messages for VSAM data sets problems.
I can summarize in the follow way:
How much DASD volume checking happens during a listct? We know that the
VVDS on a given volume is referenced for a VSAM data set listcat. What else?
Is anyone out there using ICC for a z/OS console. We are switching over
from our 3174's and started to use ICC consoles so I thought id ask our
operator to do a SAD from it. The first problem I had was I didn't change
the SAD to use the new console (address 1300) I changed it had them we do
Werner Kuehnel wrote:
We're currently trying to generate XML output by a EntCOB program.
Generally it works, however we couldn't yet manage to create the structure
of
var id=... v=.../
in the following example:
dataApp id=Datenbeschaffer
callMode=SWITCH
callTerm=TERM
Is the character set issue on your end or in the listserv?
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Is the character set issue on your end or in the
Can you just type a u next to the dataset, then reply 'N' when DMS asks
if you want to restore???
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Hi, All,
We're renovating our page dataset allocations (z/OS 1.7 - 1.9) and
found that our previously-used DEFINE specs from many moons ago need
tweaking beyond space and volser; specifically, SWAP vs NOSWAP. From
reading the following:
SWAP|NOSWAP
It is probably waiting for an interrupt from the device. Hit RESET/ENTER
and it should wake up..
snip
Is anyone out there using ICC for a z/OS console. We are switching over
from our 3174's and started to use ICC consoles so I thought id ask our
operator to do a SAD from it. The first problem
Chase, John wrote:
Hi, All,
We're renovating our page dataset allocations (z/OS 1.7 - 1.9) and
found that our previously-used DEFINE specs from many moons ago need
tweaking beyond space and volser; specifically, SWAP vs NOSWAP. From
reading the following:
Thanks Steve for your reply,
unfortunately our EntCOB version is 3.4, so I've to see how to get the
latest release.
It may take some time to upgrade, but I'll keep you posted about the
result.
Werner
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Hi, All,
We're renovating our page dataset allocations (z/OS 1.7 - 1.9) and
found that our previously-used DEFINE specs from many moons ago need
tweaking beyond space and volser; specifically, SWAP vs NOSWAP.
From
John,
Since in z/OS 1.8 and above there is no such thing as a physical swap of an
address space, I see no reason to use the SWAP parameter.
Wayne Driscoll
Product Developer
NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own.
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I cannot think of an easy way to do this, so I thought that I'd ask. I
want to copy a sequential file to another sequential file (both on DASD,
not tape!), translating the contents from EBCDIC (CP-037) to ASCII
(ISO8859-1). I can think of a way to do it using UNIX services, but I'm
hoping for a
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:29:51 +0200, GADI_B wrote:
Does anyone know of a way to create the AWStape file directly from a file
on DASD without writing to tape first?
The AWSSL utility by Reed H. Petty is what you are looking for.
It's distributed with Hercules and is documented in:
We have just implemented a solution for such a transfer. We are required to
secure all data transfers internal or external. For z/OS to Unix to Linux we
use
FTP over System SSL on the z/OS side, lftp and proftp on Unix / Linux
respectively. For Windows, our shop did not change to use a
not tape!), translating the contents from EBCDIC (CP-037) to ASCII
(ISO8859-1). I can think of a way to do it using UNIX services, but I'm
hoping for a simplier method. The ASCII file is to be transferred to a
Windows system, so each line must end in CRLF.
Why do you want to convert it first
The FTP transfer can do the translation for you.
However if you want to translate via a program, something like the
following in Cobol.
01 WS-NUMERIC-FIELDS SYNCHRONIZED.
05 WS-POSPIC S9(9) COMP.
05 WS-POS2 PIC S9(9)
So, you're renovating your page datasets. How do you do that? Do you take a
hammer and chisel and carve out some extra space on the disk? (I couldn't
resist - its almost Friday).
Actually, as others have pointed out, swap datasets are pretty much dead. The
paging algorithms have been
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I cannot think of an easy way to do this, so I thought that I'd ask. I
Thanks we tried that a few times just got a xwait... Do you code in the
macro below the 4 digit console that way? Thats what im wondering.
Andy
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It is probably waiting for
Or you could use fromdsn with Co:Z to transfer and convert in one step (over
SSH).
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//STDIN DD *
fromdsn -s IBM037 -t ISO8859-1 //MVS.DATASET c:\data\myfile.txt
//
(the -s and -t are probably not necessary, the default will be to use the
default z/OS
Eric Bielefeld wrote:
Actually, as others have pointed out, swap datasets are pretty much dead. The
paging algorithms have been changed to efficiently swap to the regular page
datasets.
This is not what was done! The concept of physical swap was removed
entirely. The operating system no
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Why do you want to convert it first and than transfer it?
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Or you could use fromdsn with Co:Z to transfer and convert in
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:04:11 -0500, McKown, John
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I cannot think of an easy way to do this, so I thought that I'd ask. I
want to copy a sequential file to another sequential file (both on DASD,
not
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[snip]
BROWSESYS1.CEE.SCEEPROC(EDCICONV)
Thats curious. The code uses the C library to do dataset I/O and of course
you would have pipe I/O between the processes.
One variable is whether you have Unicode Services enabled for these
codepages or not - we fall back to ICONV() if not, which can be more
expensive. Might also be some LE
Andy,
We use the ICC controllers for consoles and have not had a problem doing SA
dumps. Here is our console piece of the AMDSADMP macro.
CONSOLE=((200,3278),(201,3278),(300,3278),(301,3278))
here is the ICC/OSA setup
Number
Name
IP Addr
Type
DHD
RSP
RTO
200
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Thats curious. The code uses the C library to do dataset
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:57:30 -0500, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:39:28 -0500, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:04:11 -0500, McKown, John
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I cannot think of an easy way to do this, so I thought that I'd ask. I
want
It sounds like a setup issue with the failing FTP server, if it works
fine to other ftp servers.
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:39:28 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:
XLATE WORKAREA,(4),TO=A
?!?!?!?!
Doesn't XLATE use the dreadful IGC0010C (IIRC) conversion table?
I might try (totally untested):
//STEP EXEC PGM=FTP,PARM='localhost (EXIT'
//TEMP DD DISP=(,PASS),DSN=amp;TEMP,...
//INPUT
The coding for the SAD looks good to me. If all else fails, the HCM can
be used to control the SAD...
It is probably waiting for an interrupt from the device. Hit
RESET/ENTER
and it should wake up..
snip
Is anyone out there using ICC for a z/OS console. We are switching
over
from our
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It sounds like a setup issue with the failing FTP
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:48:18 -0500, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:39:28 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:
XLATE WORKAREA,(4),TO=A
?!?!?!?!
Doesn't XLATE use the dreadful IGC0010C (IIRC) conversion table?
Yes.
BROWSESYS1.MACLIB(XLATE)
snip---
Actually, I think that I've found the problem. There appears to be a
firewall between the mainframe and the Windows box. The ftp which is
failing is large (small ftps succeed!) and my estimate is that it is
taking just a bit over 2 minutes to complete the
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Actually, I
On 20 Mar 2008 08:06:16 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown,
John) wrote:
I cannot think of an easy way to do this, so I thought that I'd ask. I
want to copy a sequential file to another sequential file (both on DASD,
not tape!), translating the contents from EBCDIC (CP-037) to ASCII
(ISO8859-1). I
do I need to put the IPaddr of term/emulator in conf...or will it ICC
pick up what is connecting to it??
Gather the LUname for 3270 has to be there and match on emulator setup...
But for oness defined as Console's ??
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I am trying to use the RELEASE command with PDS86. I've used it in the past to
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testing
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I think you are correct. We put it there to ensure only specific devices will
connect as consoles.
Cliff McNeill
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Eric Bielefeld of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
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I am trying to use the RELEASE command with PDS86. I've used it in
the past to release extents, and release space from PDS's and leave
a certain amount of free space. I keep getting an
If this is a COBOL file, and you can FTP it to Windows in binary, along with
the copybook, I have a utility I wrote (runs on Unix and Windows) that will
convert those 16,000 tracks to ASCII text and you could time it with the
secondhand on your wristwatch.
Todd
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Hi all,
I'm sorry for reposting, but sometimes weird things happen to my
emails...
Once i have a dataset (80 positions), is there an easy way to split the
records, specifying the initial column ?
Like this :
+---5---105---20
Thanks John,
That was it. I figured it was something simple. The correct setc was
commented, so I reversed the two.
Eric
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I am trying
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We're renovating our page dataset allocations (z/OS 1.7 - 1.9) and
found that our previously-used DEFINE specs from many moons ago need
tweaking beyond space and volser; specifically, SWAP vs NOSWAP. From
I have been trying to add volumes to a SMS storage pool in batch using the
JCL in the SYS1.SACBCNTL. In the first run it added about 150 volumes before
abending with SYSTEM CODE=878. I added REGION=0M and I am seeing the
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Cliff ..
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As soon as I read your post, I remembered that they took out physical swap. I
am curious though - I know address spaces still get swapped out - how does that
happen without a physical swap? I used to know that at one time, but I can't
remember.
Eric
Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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(ISO8859-1). I can think of a way to do it using UNIX services, but I'm
hoping for a simplier method. The ASCII file is to be transferred to a
Windows system, so each line must end in CRLF.
What
Look up the / operator in the BUILD or OUTREC parameter of the OUTFIL
statement in the DFSORT manual.
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Hi all,
I'm sorry for
On 20 Mar 2008 11:49:31 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Finnell) wrote:
In a message dated 3/20/2008 1:43:25 P.M. Central Daylight
Time,
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(ISO8859-1). I can think of a way to do it using UNIX
services, but I'm
Here's a DFSORT job that will do what you asked for. I assumed you wanted
the
output file to have LRECL=80 like the input file. If not, change the 80:X
to n:X with
n equal to the output LRECL you want.
//S1EXEC PGM=ICEMAN
//SYSOUTDD SYSOUT=*
//SORTIN DD DSN=... input file (FB/80)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As soon as I read your post, I remembered that they took out physical swap. I
am curious though - I know address spaces still get swapped out - how does that
happen without a physical swap? I used to know that at one time, but I can't
remember.
There is now
--snip---
Well, my manager owns cattle and has a hot shot that he's not afraid
to use (did use it one time on a teenager who was trespassing and
arrogantly said What you gonna do, old man? - which is better than his
son who actually did shoot one with
---snip-
As soon as I read your post, I remembered that they took out physical swap. I am curious though - I know address spaces still get swapped out - how does that happen without a physical swap? I used to know that at one time, but I can't remember.
It's the Blue Meanies!!!
:-)
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:39:05 -0400, Peter Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
As the ASSB fields mentioned are not programming interfaces, no additional
information will be provided as to their meaning and use.
Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design
Don't know but why bother? I always use the SYSCONS (HMC operating system
messages) for standalone dump console - works great for me anyway.
Dick
Andy White [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/20/2008 9:49:38 AM
Is anyone out there using ICC for a z/OS console. We are switching over
from our 3174's and
-snip
... and logical swap is basically about quiescing work - rather than
freeing up the memory.
unsnip
But I'll bet that logically swapped address spaces are the first
losers if page stealing has to kick in.
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:15:07 -0700, Edward Jaffe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As soon as I read your post, I remembered that they took out physical
swap. I am curious though - I know address spaces still get swapped out -
how does that happen without a physical swap? I
... and logical swap is basically about quiescing work - rather than
freeing up the memory.
unsnip
But I'll bet that logically swapped address spaces are the first losers
if page stealing has to kick in.
Not true. Since stealing is no longer associated
HMC--defined to MVS as SYSCONS--works great on several levels. You don't
have to worry about...
-- Altered console configurations
-- Flaky tubes/PCs/controllers
-- Updating SAD procedures
We don't take many standalone dumps, but three changes in the past several
years have greatly improved
... and logical swap is basically about quiescing work - rather than
freeing up the memory.
Martin
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John,
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Nobody else has asked, so I will. Why do you want to do this? I'm just
curious.
I could tell you but I would have to kill you.
;)
Actually, I need to be able to determine what the original job name is.
Is the rule correct that every case - with no exceptions -
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:08:51 -0600, Todd Burch wrote:
If this is a COBOL file, ...
What's a COBOL file? And why does it matter?
I used to think bytes is bytes.
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Is the rule correct that every case - with no exceptions - of a forked/spawned
address space has a single digit from 1 to 9 appended to the
job name?
No. Eight character jobnames are truncated to 7, and then the digit is added.
If so, what happens after 9 such spawns?
We go alphabetic - A, B,
I wouldn't have included the smiley.
Why aren't things like this exposed ???. And if they are, why aren't
they (publicly/freely) documented.
Shane ...
On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 15:25 -0500, Support, DUNNIT SYSTEMS LTD. wrote:
It's the Blue Meanies!!!
:-)
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:39:05 -0400,
Take a look at the SMF exits. The description that follows is a cut and
paste for the parameter descriptins for IEFUJI. Word 5.
Hope this helps
-Dave Day
.21.7.2 Parameter Descriptions
Register 1 points to the following list of addresses:
Word 1
Address of the common exit
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So is there any way to determine the original parent address space's name
from within the child's address space?
TIA,
Jerry
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Is the rule correct that every case - with no exceptions - of a
forked/spawned address space
So is there any way to determine the original parent address space's name from
within the child's address space?
I have not been able to do it.
I have asked in the past and gotten no reliable answer.
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So is there any way to determine the original parent address space's name
from within the child's address space?
BPXEKDA returns the structure mapped by BPXZODMV. OdmvPPID is the
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Thanks. Will have to look into that method.
Jerry
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Support, DUNNIT SYSTEMS LTD. wrote:
So is there any way to determine the original parent address space's name
from within the child's address space?
BPXEKDA
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Isn't it amazing that so many of us survived to adulthood? :-)
'Fraid it's more serious these days. Had a friend whose dad was in
'retirement village' after spouse passed away and was getting
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:36:25 -0700, Gerhard Adam
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...
But I'll bet that logically swapped address spaces are the
first losers
if page stealing has to kick in.
Not true. Since stealing is no longer associated with address spaces,
but
rather global storage use, this
On 20/03/2008, Support, DUNNIT SYSTEMS LTD. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually, I need to be able to determine what the original job name is.
Keep in mind that UNIX allows the parent process to go away without
the child ending. In that case there will be no parent jobname. (Well
obviously there
McKown, John wrote:
I cannot think of an easy way to do this, so I thought that I'd ask. I
want to copy a sequential file to another sequential file (both on DASD,
not tape!), translating the contents from EBCDIC (CP-037) to ASCII
(ISO8859-1). I can think of a way to do it using UNIX services,
You're smart enough to know what a COBOL file is. So I didn't word it
perfectly.
Actually, it doesn't matter what produced the file, as long as the binary
file to be converted could be described by a file that looks like a
copybook. ;)
Todd
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'Fraid it's more serious these days. Had a friend whose dad was in
'retirement village' after spouse passed away and was getting ready for
dove season by cleaning his 12gauge and this guy kicks in the front
door! So he snaps the breach and 'Says,
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Isn't it great when some street creep finally get what he so richly
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Almost as good as the VP who demanded 'all the RMF reports' for the past
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