Hi everyone,
I've come across an SDSF oddity. I've only seen this in z/OS 1.9.
I submitted three identical jobs (all they do is IEFBR14). I submitted the jobs
with TYPRUN=HOLD.
When I release the first two jobs, the first one runs. The second job is marked
as number 2 in the queue, as seen
On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:25:01 -0500, Rugen, Len [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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We have View Direct / Mobius report viewer. It has 100,000's of HSM
migrated files in our 3494 library. If they just issue recalls for
these in some order they choose, the physical tape and file order will
be random and
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Kirk Wolf
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http://blogs.zdnet.com/projectfailures/?p=666
(Not from where I'm standing - but I might not be standing the right
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You're standing in the right place - the author, however, is not. While he
brings up valid points, these are correctable by good project management and
more User ownership of (and responsibility for) their applications and data.
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Since this is a family list G I cannot use the true language needed to
Express my opinion. I will have to paraphrase!
Horse Manure!
While many of the points are valid, the conclusion is not.
Remember CASE and then case? Where are they now?
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http://blogs.zdnet.com/projectfailures/?p=666
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Howard Brazee wrote:
http://blogs.zdnet.com/projectfailures/?p=666
(Not from where I'm standing - but I might not be standing the right place)
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As a whole, I disagree with the article as well.
On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 14:42:51 -0400, Knutson, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We deal with large volumes of SMF data and sometimes get floods of SMF
data due to looping transactions, DB2 traces, or other diagnostic
captures or application errors.
This is the part that concerns me most (regardless
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Since this is a family list G I cannot use the true
language needed to
Express my opinion. I will have to paraphrase!
Horse Manure!
The phonetic alphabet is your friend here: Bravo Sierra, or
Hi Len.
If you submit a bunch of recalls HSM will automatically sort them based
on the volser they are on - in other words all of the recalls in the
queue, that are on the same volume, will get recalled one after the
other.
If you use the earlier response of issuing the TSO HLIST
Bill,
There have been some issues with this new function and IBM stated at
SHARE that they do not recommend you implement it unless you are
experiencing 878 abends on a regular basis.
ThanksRick
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Sounds like this is the same thought process that proclaimed that the mainframe
was dead.
I loved the statement (my words of the thier toughts) about bulk purchases
are limiting the company by preventing the user commuinity from taking
advantage of newer, more flexible offerings. Yeah,
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doc Farmer) writes:
You're standing in the right place - the author, however, is not. While he
brings up valid points, these are correctable
Chase, John wrote:
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Since this is a family list G I cannot use the true
language needed to
Express my opinion. I will have to paraphrase!
Horse Manure!
The phonetic alphabet is your friend
Predicators of the mainframe demise are probably of the same genre as those
experts (who have probably never opened a science book) who are expounding
the dangers of this global warming nonsense.
Dick
Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/24/2008 11:10 AM
Chase, John wrote:
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Predicators of the mainframe demise are probably of the same
genre as those experts (who have probably never opened a
science book) who are expounding the dangers of this global
warming nonsense.
Michael Krigsman is just jumping on Nicholas Carr's bandwagon.
Carr has been beating the IT is dying drum for a long time. (
http://www.nicholasgcarr.com/articles/matter.html)
Mostly, I think, for the free advertising for his books.
Ian
http://www.cicsworld.com
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Michael Krigsman is just jumping on Nicholas Carr's bandwagon.
Carr has been
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:34:21 -0400, Jack Kelly
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I tried to send this issue to IBM but they think that it's a question
rather than a problem, so I'll try here.
Trying to use DCOLLECT to ensure that all ML2 data has a backup. In
general the UMLBKDT field (DCOLLECT ML2
Hi,
I'm looking for the fastest way in assembler to translate data in one buffer
to another using a 256-byte translate table.
The TR instruction is only up to 256 bytes, and I can't figure out if one of
the newer instructions is a replacement for arbitrary length translations,
or if the best
From Ars-Technia (a PC site) at
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080323-evidence-mounting-windows-
7-going-modular-subscription.html
quote
Unsurprisingly, Microsoft already has a patent on a modular operating
system concept. A core function module, which includes the kernel,
features a
On 24 Mar 2008 09:27:34 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Bond) wrote:
Predicators of the mainframe demise are probably of the same genre as those
experts (who have probably never opened a science book) who are expounding
the dangers of this global warming nonsense.
Possibly. But those who
On 24 Mar 2008 09:54:44 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chase, John) wrote:
I doubt seriously that the mainframe is going away, ha ha; rather, it
is frequently wearing new clothes in the form of penguin tuxedos and
other non-traditional garb. :-)
But my particular mainframe skills are likely to need
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SNIPAGE
This does not sound very innovative. CA' CAS9 does something similar.
IFAPRDnn
As suggested by someone, you can use SORT to generate the appropriate
commands.
I've build the following JCL, which you can use as a starting point to
your needs.
//*
//*CLEANUP
//*
Look at the TRTE, TRanslate and Test Extended, instruction on pp. 7-231ff of
the current PROP.
Looping is still required when a condition-code value of 3 is set, but only a
branch back to the same, already executed TRTE is required to accomplish it.
In particular, there is no requirement for
I believe Corporate IT departments will be utilized for a long time; however,
such organizations will just become paper-pushers and mouse-clickers (or a
paper-pusher/mouse-clicker) in the long run, utilizing third party vendors,
VARs, and such, for their overall IT HW and SW maintenances.
This does not sound very innovative. CA' CAS9 does something similar.
IFAPRDnn member of PARMLIB?
MVS does/did it.
CA-NeuMICS (aka MICS) has done it since Morino released it in 1984.
IMS does it.
..etc.
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Too busy driving to stop for gas!
More in Nicolas Carr from my favorite pundit.
Carr-ied away: http://www.issurvivor.com/ArticlesDetail.asp?ID=651
Carr-toonish engineering:
http://www.issurvivor.com/ArticlesDetail.asp?ID=652
Lately he has had a series of columns on how some employers are requiring
their employees to buy their
TRT[E] is not the same as TR. It *stops* if the translated-to byte is
non-zero.
It's hard to say whether a TR loop or just an open code loop would be better
on the current in-use crop of hardware. If CPU performance is extremely
important, I'd do some experimenting. Even if the z10 offered
Predicators of the mainframe demise are probably of the same genre as
those experts (who have probably never opened a science book) who are
expounding the dangers of this global warming nonsense.
Why is it that experts that expound global warming are fools, but
experts that denounce it are
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Subject: Long translate (TR) instruction?
Hi,
I'm looking for the fastest way in assembler to translate
McKown, John wrote:
I don't think you have a choice, in the general case. That is because
all the new TRxx type instructions seem to terminate when the data in
your buffer equals to the contents of the low order byte general
register 0. I.e. they stop at an end of buffer type character, like a
More in Nicolas Carr from my favorite pundit.
Carr-ied away: http://www.issurvivor.com/ArticlesDetail.asp?ID=651
Carr-toonish engineering:
http://www.issurvivor.com/ArticlesDetail.asp?ID=652
There is also some truth in these articles, and they should be carefully
considered. One problem is
With last weeks SDSF security questions, I have to chime in with my
issue
I'm submitting an SDSF DA command via REXX in batch:
ALLOC F(ISFOUT) RECFM(F B A) LRECL(121) NEW UNIT(VIO) ,
DELETE CYLINDERS SPACE(1,1) REUSE DSORG(PS)
ALLOC F(ISFIN) RECFM(F B) LRECL(80) NEW UNIT(VIO) ,
On 24 Mar 2008 13:26:16 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gerhard Adam)
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Similarly, even though many applications components are commodities, many
other elements are also assumed, so resources need to be expended to live up
to the expectation. For example, in the past while response time was
What's much harder for both data processing and for users is to figure
out how to collect and use data that might give us that competitive
advantage - without spending more than the return.
Agreed. But that's a question that's independent of technology. That isn't
to say that technology
I am trying to understand an uncommmented JES2 exit 51 that I inherited.
It is issuing an SSI reqest 68 (decimal) to MSTR. I have looked through a
number of SRLs, including Using the SSI, and have not found any
documentation of this subsystem call.
Does anyone know what this is?
Thank you,
Thanks everyone for all the advice.
Kirk
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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McKown, John wrote:
I don't think you have a choice, in the general case. That is because
all the new TRxx type instructions seem to terminate when the data in
your buffer
I show it as OPC/A dialog user. Probably communicating with a scheduling
package.
Bob Shannon
Rocket Software
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Fellow EWCP Members and SHARE Participants-
Now that SHARE in Orlando is a few magical moments gone by, it is time to
start planning for the
upcoming summer SHARE conference. It will be held at the San Jose McEnery
Convention Center
in San Jose, CA, August 10th through August 15th, 2008.
Adam said
Sometimes IT organizations forget that they didn't invent information,
they simply are a means of managing it.
...and sometimes not even managing it. Often enough IT is arguably just
a vessel in which corporate information resides and it's a vessel that
fights the business tooth and
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:16:11 -0400, Craddock, Chris
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...and sometimes not even managing it. Often enough IT is arguably
just
a vessel in which corporate information resides and it's a vessel that
fights the business tooth and nail every day. It is more of a necessary
I dug into the doc once again for more info on Mark's reference to
'striping'. I find this comment in Diagnosis: Tools and Service Aids:
Extended format data sets are supported by z/OS V1R6 and later releases.
Extended format sequential data sets can hold 16,777,215 blocks. If you use
a maximum
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 08:27:36 -0500, Rick Fochtman wrote:
As a whole, I disagree with the article as well. But it DOES raise a few
valid points. The biggest point I see is the error of letting the
purchasing dept. decide what software to purchase, rather than the
technicians and/or users. It's
In a recent note, Richard Bond said:
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:24:32 -0400
Predicators of the mainframe demise are probably of the same genre
as those experts (who have probably never opened a science
book) who are expounding the dangers of this global warming nonsense.
Troll.
The New York Times has a short but fairly interesting article about old
technologies which uses the mainframe as an illustration. Here's the link:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/23/technology/23digi.html
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Timothy Sipples
IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect
Specializing in
This probably was cross-posted to both comp.lang.cobol and
bit.listserv.ibm-main. Pete Dashwood is a long time consultant who
has CICS and COBOL experience. I don't necessarily agree with him but
he does have many good insights.
Clark Morris
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:54:55 +1300, in
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It could become very easy to commoditize a company's data until it fit
in a way that we know how to use.
What's much harder for both
Also look at prior discussion on this list for ispf edit recovery from
May 2007:
For z/OS 1.4 and beyond, saving changes from an edit session (with
explicit SAVE) appears to break the edit-recovery relationship with the
backup dataset, but the backup dataset itself doesn't get deleted until
Hello Rick,
StandAlone Dump dasd striping is not the same as DFSMS dataset striping.
To build the SAD datasets onto multiple volumes you run something like this:-
//STEP1EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01
//SYSPROCDD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.SAMPLIB
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 03/24/2008
07:41:38 PM:
I dug into the doc once again for more info on Mark's reference to
'striping'. I find this comment in Diagnosis: Tools and Service Aids:
Extended format data sets are supported by z/OS V1R6 and later
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 03/25/2008
01:29:43 AM:
IPCS will merge and sort the records from all six datasets/volumes into
a
coherent image when you access or copy the SADump.
IPCS COPYDUMP will merge the data from the multiple volumes, which is
why we
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