Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-13 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 21:17 + on 05/12/2008, =?utf-8?B?VGVkIE1hY05FSUw=?= wrote about Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web: Is it truly being a luddite to not want your PC screwed over by bad/malicious external code? What type of things are/were done to your system by the supplied JavaScript? I think you

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-13 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 15:19 -0600 on 05/12/2008, Steve Comstock wrote about Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web: Yeah, I thought about that. Actually built a prototype. I'll think about it. I do know that not all browsers recognize NOSCRIPT, but those are probably in the minorty. To the best of my knowledge,

Re: CICS/BMS greenies to GUI's

2008-05-13 Thread Timothy Sipples
There are lots of ways to provide alternative user interfaces to CICS. The best answer will depend at least a little bit on what development approach you prefer. Questions people might ask to determine the best choice include: How are you generating BMS macros today? Do you need to maintain dual

Re: LPAR Capping - weight question

2008-05-13 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Tue, 13 May 2008 05:43:24 +, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you have some terminology problems. CF LPARs are NOT dummies. If you are truly using them as CFs, they should not be used in this manner. It is OK What he means , is , he does not need any CF , but he wants to

Re: LPAR Capping - weight question

2008-05-13 Thread Shane Ginnane
G'day Michael - this is an ugly hack. But you knew that already. Weights being merely guess-timates, I normally set them (for all LPARs) to what you want the box divvied up as when all LPARs are (concurrently) 100% busy. In your case, maybe set the CF LPAR to slightly higher, just for sanity -

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-13 Thread Martin Packer
Arthur T wrote: One old standby was to open dozens or hundreds of browser windows with ads in them. It could lead to a reboot just to get back control of your computer. OLD is about the right word for it... Firefox, at least, has plenty of control over such things. As with all such things

Re: CTC Disconnect Time

2008-05-13 Thread Chris Mason
Dave and Magen This looked interesting so I had a quick chat with a colleague and - guessing a bit - we think the measurements you see are a consequence of a particular technique used by High Performance Data Transport (HPDT) channel programming called a never-ending channel program, more

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-13 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Robert A. Rosenberg At 11:27 -0500 on 05/12/2008, Chase, John wrote about Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Howard Brazee

Re: Cleanup a unconnected Coupling Facility

2008-05-13 Thread Barbara Nitz
I like this solution, but isn't it possible to perform this without the entire SYSPLEX IPL ? No. You need a 'clean' CFRM CDS that does not have any awareness of the old CF. Meaning sysplex wide IPL. Why couldn't I just make sthe sysplex FORGET about CF2 ? You could have. *If* you had followed

Re: CICS/BMS greenies to GUI's

2008-05-13 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Klein This note was posted directly to the USENET newsgroup and hasn't had many replies. I am forwarding it to the list-server, to see if more people have input on it. (It is also in the comp.lang.cobol

Re: CICS/BMS greenies to GUI's

2008-05-13 Thread Chuck Arney
There are also software products, such as our z/Web-Host product, that work at the 3270 data stream level instead of the BMS level. This allows operation outside of the CICS environment so that no CICS resources are consumed by the process. HTML can be dynamically generated by the product or

IPS default member on z/Os 1.9.

2008-05-13 Thread Richbourg, Claude
Good morning all, I am curious as to why IPS is still being referenced as a default entry in IEASYS00? Using Mark's IPLINFO utility on our 1.9 system, I see this entry: IPS=00,Default I thought the ICS and IPS went out of town once

Re: IPS default member on z/Os 1.9.

2008-05-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Using Mark's IPLINFO utility on our 1.9 system, I see this entry: IPS=00,Default I thought the ICS and IPS went out of town once Workload Manager came in. Actually it's only been gone since z/OS 1.2. Up until then, you could still use

Re: IPS default member on z/Os 1.9.

2008-05-13 Thread Rob Scott
The ICS and IPS are still included in the IHAIPA mapping macro in z/OS 1.9 and IPAICS and IPAIPS still contain valid PDE entries - maybe IBM are yet to clean-up the entries ? Rob Scott Rocket Software, Inc 275 Grove Street Newton, MA 02466 617-614-2305 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original

Re: IPS default member on z/Os 1.9.

2008-05-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
The ICS and IPS are still included in the IHAIPA mapping macro in z/OS 1.9 and IPAICS and IPAIPS still contain valid PDE entries - maybe IBM are yet to clean-up the entries ? I modified a version of Mark's IPLINFO to not even produce the ICS/IPS lines in the output. Nothing fancy; I just

SV: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-13 Thread Thomas Berg
And in swedish the word slut is the same as end... You imagibe the problems that we have sometimes... :) Thomas Berg __ Thomas Berg Specialist IT-U SWEDBANK -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: IPS default member on z/Os 1.9.

2008-05-13 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 13 May 2008 12:11:31 +, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using Mark's IPLINFO utility on our 1.9 system, I see this entry: IPS=00,Default I thought the ICS and IPS went out of town once Workload Manager came in. Actually

Re: IPS default member on z/Os 1.9.

2008-05-13 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 13 May 2008 08:04:15 -0500, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 13 May 2008 12:11:31 +, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using Mark's IPLINFO utility on our 1.9 system, I see this entry: IPS=00,Default I thought

Re: CICS/BMS greenies to GUI's

2008-05-13 Thread Schneiderwent, Craig
Responding to the other possibilities portion, you might find http://www.cbttape.org/ftp/updates/CBT775.zip interesting. It's the code to go with SHARE presentation 8247 User Experience: Writing a web-enabled CICS/COBOL program. This is _not_ a method to generate a GUI or HTML from your BMS

Java; a POX

2008-05-13 Thread Shane
... to communicate with a hand-coded Java front end, passing XML back and forth. This is sometimes called POX (Plain Old XML). How about that ... I have always considered Java a pox on the planet. Shane ... (sorry, that was just too good to pass up...)

Re: IPS default member on z/Os 1.9.

2008-05-13 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 13 May 2008 12:37:09 +, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The ICS and IPS are still included in the IHAIPA mapping macro in z/OS 1.9 and IPAICS and IPAIPS still contain valid PDE entries - maybe IBM are yet to clean-up the entries ? I modified a version of Mark's IPLINFO to not

Re: SVC 27

2008-05-13 Thread Gabor Hoffer
Where do I find documentation about SVC 27? It's true that the Diagnosis manuals include a list of SVC routines and their parameter lists. But why not use the OBTAIN macro? Because, I don't have experience in this theme and I have to fix a problem in a program that uses SVC 27. I'v found

Re: SVC 27

2008-05-13 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gabor Hoffer Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 8:24 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SVC 27 Where do I find documentation about SVC 27? It's true that the Diagnosis manuals

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-13 Thread Howard Brazee
On 12 May 2008 14:13:07 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert A. Rosenberg) wrote: Around 1968 I read a book where this guy had a long hyphenated name which the computers kept having troubles with. He invented a bacterium that ate computer tapes for revenge - which made him an ecological hero

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-13 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
While we're speaking of books we no longer have, but wish we did, I vote for The Adolescence of P1. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information Communications Technology Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 email:

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-13 Thread Howard Brazee
On 13 May 2008 00:33:58 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Packer) wrote: OLD is about the right word for it... Firefox, at least, has plenty of control over such things. As with all such things I have to give IE the benefit of the doubt (as I almost never use it) and assume it had a grip on it

Re: SV: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-13 Thread Howard Brazee
On 13 May 2008 05:51:06 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Berg) wrote: And in swedish the word slut is the same as end... You imagibe the problems that we have sometimes... :) Every language I know has such puns. Remember when people talked about how Chevy Nova meant won't go? Sure no va means

Re: IPS default member on z/Os 1.9.

2008-05-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
BTW Ted, COMPAT mode went away in z/OS 1.3, not z/OS 1.2. Since I went straight to 1.4, from 2.10, I couldn't recall exactly. Thanks for the correction. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: SVC 27

2008-05-13 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 5/13/2008 8:41:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How to use OBTAIN is documented here: _http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/DGT2S341/1.3._ (http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/DGT2S341/1.3.) Another

Re: IPS default member on z/Os 1.9.

2008-05-13 Thread Rick Fochtman
-snip-- BTW Ted, COMPAT mode went away in z/OS 1.3, not z/OS 1.2. Since I went straight to 1.4, from 2.10, I couldn't recall exactly. Thanks for the correction. unsnip--- ISTR running COMPAT mode in z/OS

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-13 Thread Gary Green
At the risk of this thread straying off topic too much, I agree... I have two copies floating around my house somewhere. I can never find them when I want to reread the book; about every 4-5 years. Where's Gregory?. On Tue May 13 10:08 , Daniel McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: While

Re: SVC 27

2008-05-13 Thread Gabor Hoffer
Thank you! Gabor On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 3:40 PM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gabor Hoffer Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 8:24 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SVC 27

Re: Cleanup a unconnected Coupling Facility

2008-05-13 Thread Kevin Mckenzie
DFHCFLS_SYSTCFD1 05/10/2008 22:45:55 ALLOCATED POLICY CHANGE PENDING - CHANGE What happens when you issue the command d xcf,str,strname=DFHCFLS_SYSTCFD1, and then try to delete the connections to the structure? Those are what need to be cleaned

Re: IPS default member on z/Os 1.9.

2008-05-13 Thread Edward Jaffe
Rick Fochtman wrote: -snip-- BTW Ted, COMPAT mode went away in z/OS 1.3, not z/OS 1.2. Since I went straight to 1.4, from 2.10, I couldn't recall exactly. Thanks for the correction. unsnip--- ISTR running

Re: Cleanup a unconnected Coupling Facility

2008-05-13 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Tue, 13 May 2008 11:38:05 -0400, Kevin Mckenzie wrote: DFHCFLS_SYSTCFD1 05/10/2008 22:45:55 ALLOCATED POLICY CHANGE PENDING - CHANGE What happens when you issue the command d xcf,str,strname=DFHCFLS_SYSTCFD1, and then try to delete the

Re: Java; a POX

2008-05-13 Thread Michael Poil
Hehe Give me Assembler and a hand-held uninterpreted card punch any day. Real programmers don't use/need HLL's! :-) -- Mike Poil Java z/OS Level 3 Service IBM United Kingdom Limited,

Re: Java; a POX

2008-05-13 Thread Martin Packer
Assemblers are so NEXT century. :-) Martin Martin Packer Performance Consultant IBM United Kingdom Ltd +44-20-8832-5167 +44-7802-245-584 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office:

Re: Java; a POX

2008-05-13 Thread Steve Comstock
Michael Poil wrote: Hehe Give me Assembler and a hand-held uninterpreted card punch any day. Real programmers don't use/need HLL's! Says the Java debugging guy! :-) :-) -- Mike

Re: Java; a POX

2008-05-13 Thread Howard Brazee
On 13 May 2008 08:57:14 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Poil) wrote: Give me Assembler and a hand-held uninterpreted card punch any day. Real programmers don't use/need HLL's! Assembler? Real programmers don't need assembler!

Re: Java; a POX

2008-05-13 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Brazee Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 11:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Java; a POX On 13 May 2008 08:57:14 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Poil) wrote: Give me

Re: Java; a POX

2008-05-13 Thread Ivan Warren
Howard Brazee wrote: Assembler? Real programmers don't need assembler! Assembler is for sissies ! Using a keyboard to input hexadecimal numbers if for script kiddies.. Real programmers flip switches to select the address, flip some more switches to input the data, rotate the mode switch

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-13 Thread Tony Harminc
2008/5/12 Robert A. Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you accept only cards that use 4 4-character fields, you can also have 4 windows (each 4 characters wide) and auto-advance the cursor after the 4th character (I have seen this done but it may need JavaScript). AJAX (or JavaScript) will

Re: Java; a POX

2008-05-13 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ivan Warren) writes: Assembler is for sissies ! Using a keyboard to input hexadecimal numbers if for script kiddies.. Real programmers flip

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-13 Thread Howard Brazee
On 13 May 2008 09:26:02 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony Harminc) wrote: Formatting names according to some assumed standard, e.g. changing the first letter of each part to upper case. Enough said on this, except to remark on the sheer number of homegrown and experimental schemes deployed out

Re: Java; a POX

2008-05-13 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of McKown, John -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Howard Brazee On 13 May 2008 08:57:14 -0700, Michael Poil wrote: Give me Assembler and a hand-held uninterpreted

CICS/TS 2.3 and z/OS 1.7

2008-05-13 Thread Jerry Fuchs
I have an open PMR with IBM not having much luck getting them to call me back. Under z/OS 1.7 it looks like map storage is not being cleared causing garbage to be displayed. This works fine under z/OS 1.4. Have applied all maintenance to CICS/TS 2.3 and z/OS 1.7 but have not been able to

Re: CICS/TS 2.3 and z/OS 1.7

2008-05-13 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Fuchs Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 12:19 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: CICS/TS 2.3 and z/OS 1.7 I have an open PMR with IBM not having much luck getting them to call me

Re: Java; a POX

2008-05-13 Thread Edward Jaffe
Howard Brazee wrote: On 13 May 2008 08:57:14 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Poil) wrote: Give me Assembler and a hand-held uninterpreted card punch any day. Real programmers don't use/need HLL's! Assembler? Real programmers don't need assembler! This reminds me of a

Re: Java; a POX

2008-05-13 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip Give me Assembler and a hand-held uninterpreted card punch any day. Real programmers don't use/need HLL's! Assembler? Real programmers don't need assembler! Right! We type the program in using the Alter/Display

Re: CICS/TS 2.3 and z/OS 1.7

2008-05-13 Thread John P Kalinich
Jerry Fuchs of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 05/13/2008 12:19:27 PM: I have an open PMR with IBM not having much luck getting them to call me back. Under z/OS 1.7 it looks like map storage is not being cleared causing garbage to be displayed. This works

Re: CICS/TS 2.3 and z/OS 1.7

2008-05-13 Thread Fletcher, Kevin
snip I have an open PMR with IBM not having much luck getting them to call me back. Under z/OS 1.7 it looks like map storage is not being cleared causing garbage to be displayed. This works fine under z/OS 1.4. Have applied all maintenance to CICS/TS 2.3 and z/OS 1.7 but have not been able

Re: CICS/TS 2.3 and z/OS 1.7

2008-05-13 Thread Jousma, David
Probably a larger question to ask is did your presumed LE options usermod apply correctly? If not, you may have other problems too... ___ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President Mainframe Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] 616.653.8429 This e-mail

Re: CICS/TS 2.3 and z/OS 1.7

2008-05-13 Thread Jousma, David
BTW, in either 1.7 or 1.8 LE parms got moved to PARMLIB, CEEPRMxx ___ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President Mainframe Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] 616.653.8429 -Original Message- From: Jousma, David Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 1:33 PM

Re: Java; a POX

2008-05-13 Thread Ivan Warren
Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote: From the front panel, I had flipped a bit in conditional branch instruction in the password verification routine ... resulting in anything entered, always being treated as valid password. Eh eh.. reminds me of my very 1st day as a (paid) sysprog.. The resident guy

Re: CICS/TS 2.3 and z/OS 1.7

2008-05-13 Thread Robert Sample
Jerry: Check the LE STORAGE option. From our 1.8 LE manual: STORAGE controls the initial content of storage when allocated and freed. It also controls the amount of storage that is reserved for the out-of-storage condition. If you specify one of the parameters in the STORAGE run-time option,

Re: CICS/TS 2.3 and z/OS 1.7

2008-05-13 Thread Jerry Fuchs
John, That did it! Will live happily ever after now. THANKS Jerry Fuchs Senior Systems Engineer Wendy's International Inc. One Dave Thomas Blvd. Dublin, Ohio 43017 (614) 764-3594 John P Kalinich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 05/13/2008 01:30

Re: CICS/TS 2.3 and z/OS 1.7

2008-05-13 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jousma, David BTW, in either 1.7 or 1.8 LE parms got moved to PARMLIB, CEEPRMxx At 1.7 it became an option. Don't know yet if 1.9 does away with the USERMOD; we'll find out in about a week or so. -jc-

Re: SVC 27

2008-05-13 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 11:22 -0400 on 05/13/2008, (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) wrote about Re: SVC 27: In a message dated 5/13/2008 8:41:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How to use OBTAIN is documented here: _http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/DGT2S341/1.3._

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-13 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 08:05 -0600 on 05/13/2008, Howard Brazee wrote about Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web: On 12 May 2008 14:13:07 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert A. Rosenberg) wrote: Around 1968 I read a book where this guy had a long hyphenated name which the computers kept having troubles with. He

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-13 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 12:15 -0400 on 05/13/2008, Tony Harminc wrote about Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web: 2008/5/12 Robert A. Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you accept only cards that use 4 4-character fields, you can also have 4 windows (each 4 characters wide) and auto-advance the cursor after the

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-13 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 08:04 -0500 on 05/13/2008, Mark Hammond wrote about Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web: I used to live in Middlesex County in New Jersey. You don't need to go all the way to the UK to find such names. Mark Hammond Agreed but you need a US Town not a County to be equivalent since you

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-13 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 10:08 -0400 on 05/13/2008, Daniel McLaughlin wrote about Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web: While we're speaking of books we no longer have, but wish we did, I vote for The Adolescence of P1. Or Valentina: Soul in Sapphire or either edition of When Harlie was One. All are about

Re: SVC 27

2008-05-13 Thread Edward Jaffe
Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: The problem with this method is that it will not show the Secret/Undocumented parameters/features like LOCATE's SuperLocate which also uses SVC27. I am not sure if OBTAIN also has secret options. The best way to learn everything about any SVC is to trace calls to it

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I always wondered how to start a sentence with dBase IV, or iPod... Or z/OS ... - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-13 Thread Gary Green
Are you certain it was a DOS system. I thought it was an MFT, or MVT, and housed in a 165/95, was it...? On Tue May 13 13:58 , 'Robert A. Rosenberg' [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: At 10:08 -0400 on 05/13/2008, Daniel McLaughlin wrote about Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web: While we're

Re: CICS/TS 2.3 and z/OS 1.7

2008-05-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
ALL31(OFF), Why do you have ALL31 off? Even if you still have 24-bit code, IBM recommends ALL31(ON). There is a slight performance benefit, and 24-bit will still run. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: CICS/TS 2.3 and z/OS 1.7

2008-05-13 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 1:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CICS/TS 2.3 and z/OS 1.7 ALL31(OFF), Why do you have ALL31 off? Even if you still have 24-bit

Re: SVC 27

2008-05-13 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Merging this with the real programmer thread, If you really want to figure this out, and have a lot of time, (and a z/OS system you can run with a single user), there are always z/VM trace traps. Wayne Driscoll Product Developer NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -Original

Re: CICS/TS 2.3 and z/OS 1.7

2008-05-13 Thread Imbriale, Donald
ALL31(OFF) is needed if there are any AMODE 24 routines. Don Imbriale -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 2:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CICS/TS 2.3 and z/OS 1.7 ALL31(OFF),

Re: CICS/TS 2.3 and z/OS 1.7

2008-05-13 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
Here in the land that time forgot we had to build the CEE modules without 31-bit to accommodate some ancient COBOL programs that run financials. The vendor wouldn't fix his code so we had to create the special modules. It's been through 1.4 and 1.7 and we'll probably do it again in 1.9. Daniel

Re: CICS/TS 2.3 and z/OS 1.7

2008-05-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Why do you have ALL31 off? Most likely left over from some problem back in z/OS 1.4. We've had it on since OS/390 2.10 - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: CICS/TS 2.3 and z/OS 1.7

2008-05-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
ALL31(OFF) is needed if there are any AMODE 24 routines. Not according to IBM, as I said in my original post. They still worked for us. What happens with ALL31(ON), according to an IBM expert (whose name escapes me), is the AMODE 24 support is not initialised until the first 24-bit programme is

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-13 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip- While we're speaking of books we no longer have, but wish we did, I vote for The Adolescence of P1. Or Valentina: Soul in Sapphire or either edition of When Harlie was One. All are about Sentient Computer Programs that roam the Net (before the

Re: CICS/TS 2.3 and z/OS 1.7

2008-05-13 Thread Imbriale, Donald
The information I provided was from the current LE manuals. And I have confirmed this by running some tests. ALL31(OFF) is needed if there are any AMODE 24 routines. Don Imbriale -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL

Re: CICS/TS 2.3 and z/OS 1.7

2008-05-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
The information I provided was from the current LE manuals. And I have confirmed this by running some tests. ALL31(OFF) is needed if there are any AMODE 24 routines. I don't have any proof, other than experience. It was done under a (proprietry) performance study conducted by IBM on our

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-13 Thread Gary Green
Oh yes. I remember starting to read it when someone on CompuServe (remember that) recommended it to me back in the 80's. I laid it down somewhere and it was gone. I never did get another copy to finish reading... On Tue May 13 13:58 , Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-13 Thread Hardee, Charles H
Fantablous movie! Computer takes over the world, almost! Classic! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 1:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

Re: CICS/TS 2.3 and z/OS 1.7

2008-05-13 Thread Richard Peurifoy
Ted MacNEIL wrote: The information I provided was from the current LE manuals. And I have confirmed this by running some tests. ALL31(OFF) is needed if there are any AMODE 24 routines. I don't have any proof, other than experience. It was done under a (proprietry) performance study

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-13 Thread Gary Green
While we are on the subject... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064177/ On Tue May 13 15:09 , 'Hardee, Charles H' [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: Fantablous movie! Computer takes over the world, almost! Classic! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [EMAIL

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-13 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 13 May 2008 08:33:28 +0100, Martin Packer wrote: Arthur T wrote: One old standby was to open dozens or hundreds of browser windows with ads in them. It could lead to a reboot just to get back control of your computer. OLD is about the right word for it... Firefox, at least, has

Re: CICS/TS 2.3 and z/OS 1.7

2008-05-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
We had COBOL (CICS and batch) that called some 24bit assembler routines, and they would fail with ALL31 on. Our Application Programmers would jibber in fright if they ever had to modify (or even read) an Assembler programmes. One thing Y2K did was verify our application portfolio was all COBOL.

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-13 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
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Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-13 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Marchant) writes: I beg to differ. Until recently, I was running Firefox without NoScript and frequently found that both and swap space had filled up,

Remote tape drive

2008-05-13 Thread David Logan
I would like to have a tape drive at a remote office from where the mainframe is physically located. Preferably a (normally) channel attached tape drive, rather than a SCSI type of thing, although I would take the latter if given no other choices. Does anyone happen to know what options I have

Re: Remote tape drive

2008-05-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I would like to have a tape drive at a remote office from where the mainframe is physically located. Preferably a (normally) channel attached tape drive, rather than a SCSI type of thing, although I would take the latter if given no other choices. ESCON/FICON with dark fibre. HYPERCHANNEL (if

Fw: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-13 Thread Martin Packer
You're NOT differing. :-) Martin Martin Packer Performance Consultant IBM United Kingdom Ltd +44-20-8832-5167 +44-7802-245-584 [EMAIL PROTECTED] I beg to differ. Until recently, I was running Firefox without NoScript and frequently found that both and swap space had filled up, requiring

Re: Remote tape drive

2008-05-13 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Logan Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 2:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Remote tape drive I would like to have a tape drive at a remote office from where the mainframe is

Re: CICS/TS 2.3 and z/OS 1.7

2008-05-13 Thread Linda Mooney
That was our experience too. We have to run with ALL31(OFF). We have lots of very old Assembler, OS/VS COBOL, COBOL II, etc. Mission critical stuff and nobody and no budget to upgrade it. We tested with ALL31(ON) and the programs started out fine, the old Assembler ran fine, but it could

Re: CICS/TS 2.3 and z/OS 1.7

2008-05-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
That was our experience too. We have to run with ALL31(OFF). We have lots of very old Assembler, OS/VS COBOL, COBOL II, etc. Mission critical stuff and nobody and no budget to upgrade it. We tested with ALL31(ON) and the programs started out fine, the old Assembler ran fine, but it could

Re: SVC 27

2008-05-13 Thread Art Celestini
LOCATE (and CATALOG and INDEX) use SVC 26. Most, if not all of the SuperLocate functionality can be obtained through the documented Catalog Search Interface (CSI), which is just another front-end to SVC 26. At 02:17 PM 5/13/2008, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: The problem with this method is

UK GSE Large Systems Meeting 20th May 2008

2008-05-13 Thread Mark Wilson
All, The agenda for the above has been updated and can be found at: http://lsx.gse.org.uk/future.html Please see the website for registration details. Regards Mark -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Remote tape drive

2008-05-13 Thread Hal Merritt
Several options, all -very- expensive. You need a very big pipe and one or more humans to care for the tape unit. What are you trying to do? How far is the run? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Logan Sent: Tuesday, May

Re: Cleanup a unconnected Coupling Facility

2008-05-13 Thread Skip Robinson
As I said in a previous post, we've previously experienced this problem only in DR testing where the mirroring connection is brutally interrupted on purpose. In the case of CEC upgrade/replacement, all systems would be shut down cleanly before hardware work begins. How about, just before V

Re: Remote tape drive

2008-05-13 Thread Skip Robinson
We run entire silos remotely. As Hal says, the infrastructure to do this is complex and costly. I can't imagine its being worth while for a single drive. You're looking at a major project to reach anything beyond the tolerable distance for your channel technology. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern

Re: Remote tape drive

2008-05-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Several options, all -very- expensive. You need a very big pipe and one or more humans to care for the tape unit. We did it for years with HYPERCHANNEL, and it wasn't very expensive. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For

Re: Remote tape drive

2008-05-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I know it's bf to respond to one's own post. But, we did it with a couple of tape drives, printers and cheque processors. It was cheaper than putting a mainframe onsite. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -Original Message- From: Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 13 May 2008

CICS/TS 2.3 and z/OS 1.7

2008-05-13 Thread Bill Klein
The exact requirements for ALL31(OFF) are at: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ceea3180/1.2.4.2 Imbriale, Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] om... The information I provided was from the current LE manuals. And I have confirmed this

Re: LPAR Capping - weight question

2008-05-13 Thread Michael Mcloughlin
Thanks Bruno Shane. I know this is not pretty, but you give me more confidence in what I hope will be a short term solution. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: CICS/BMS greenies to GUI's

2008-05-13 Thread Graham Hobbs
Gentlemen, Thanks for the responses, my world nowadays is a PC with 1990's Cobol/CICS software (no Web stuff), so looking for GUI/Web front ends for my generator without the knowledge/tools is awkward, but what I've gained is a good start .. Craig - I can't read CBT775; its a zip containing

Re: IPS default member on z/Os 1.9.

2008-05-13 Thread Barbara Nitz
If you do an ipcs verbx srmdata command on a dump, you'll see that the old controls from IPS are all still there. SRM still uses them (or most of them), the external control has just shifted to the WLM policy. Given that it is still possible (AFAIK) to come up with a 'default' WLM policy (i.e.

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