On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:53:18 -0500, Farley, Peter x23353
peter.far...@broadridge.com wrote:
So far they've nearly managed to abandon the small ISV (Dallas support
is a sore subject among many small ISV's), the entire academic community
I have to disagree about the Dallas support. I just send
You might check out SLIP's ACTION= REFBEFOR, ACTION=REFAFTER
Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design
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at 03:59 AM, Andy Wood woo...@ozemail.com.au said:
So, you would think that a look at the S/360 POP might explain it.
Silly me; I thought so too. Certainly the OS/360 loogic manuals explained
it.
IBM System/360 Principles of
snip
Wonder what the real story is here -- a 9370 in a closet?
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-secret-service-outdated-computer-mainf
rame-system-1980s/story?id=9945663
/snip
And how many Dem budget cuts prevented a more timely upgrade?
Please keep your political comments to yourself. This is not an appropriate
venue.
Jon L. Veilleux
veilleu...@aetna.com
(860) 636-9179
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Let's keep the politics out of the Listserv discussions, because it'll get very
ugly!
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From: Staller, Allan [mailto:allan.stal...@kbm1.com]
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Subject: Re: More calumny: Secret Service Uses 1980s Mainframe
In 3edd8e2b1002281520p55dbbeccq237b7b19f0e75...@mail.gmail.com, on
02/28/2010
at 06:20 PM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com said:
(Basic) System Extensions Program Product? No, that would be an add-on.
Wasn't VM/SP also an add-on to VMF/370 R6? I know for sure that MVS/SP was
an addon to OS/VS2
Ron,
We compress our GDG's and don't send them to ML1. However at the
time we were trying to save DASD and used the 8 MB And 5 mb values. We
want to raise the bar for Compression, because of DASD issues have
subsided. Is there a ideal threshold for the DASD/Compression size value?
This is not really about IBM mainframes. But it is, in a sense, about computing
in general. And, perhaps, why mainframes are viewed as archaic. This is a
slashdot article. The person appears to be asking a serious question. But, how
stupid should computer users be allowed to become?
It might look like a waste if all your paths start with /Service, but what if
there may be paths that don't?
John Mattson john_matt...@ea.epson.com 02/28/10 8:53 PM
Sorry. The first CHANGE PATH switches /Service/ and /, the second changes
it right back.
Looks like a waste to me, but maybe
This can't help but make me remember -
You try to make things idiot proof, you just get a better idiot.
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 9:23 AM, McKown, John
john.mck...@healthmarkets.comwrote:
This is not really about IBM mainframes. But it is, in a sense, about
computing in general. And, perhaps,
Tobias,
There's no magic number. It's pretty much depends on the site, the
compression method and how datasets are accessed. It's like asking is there
an ideal wheel rim size for every car.
Why not raise the bar in some increment and measure the affect. You probably
have some idea of where you
Time to re-Subject this thread tangential to the OP.
There were many posts regarding the history of WYLBUR and SUPERWYLBUR a few
years ago, some of which were by the same posters (Gerhard, Shmuel, me, e.g.).
Check the archives for more gory details of who did what in whose back yard and
when.
IBM did away with that a LONG time ago on MVS. My memory is bad on dates but
I would guess in the late 80's (??).
ANyone?
I'm not sure to what your that refers. IBM began releasing the initial
pieces of what turned into SMS (System Managed Storage) in the late 1980s, but
I don't see
Ron,
Thanks
Regards,
Tobias Cafiero
Data Resource Management
Tel: (212) 855-1117
Ron Hawkins ron.hawkins1...@sbcglobal.net
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To
snip
tried to load the LPARs. .. But I got load failed.
/snip
You didn't indicate if this was your first IPL of the box but it could
definitely be hardware. Did you check to see if your IPL device is
accessible, eg CHP assigned to LPAR, CUs online, etc. Did you try to IPL a
tape, eg, SA dump,
I understood the concept of split cylinders as soon as I read it described in
IBM's horrid doc back in the 1960s. DASD I/O service times, especially the
seek time component, were extremely long back then, and IBM developed split
cylinder support in an attempt to make their language compilers
Fast food restaurant chains have a lot of experience with successfully dumbing
down the keyboard of their cash registers. You might try contacting the chief
architect of cash register design for McDonald's:
http://www.mcdonalds.com/contact/contact_us.html
Perhaps someday a keyboard RPQ
After a long hiatus, I spent all last week teaching
a class for a customer. It was great to be back in
the classroom! Lots of fun, excitement, and interaction.
And, oh yeah, everyone learned new stuff (including me).
But times are still tough and the economy is still
struggling - therefore
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well.
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes:
Wasn't VM/SP also an add-on to VMF/370 R6? I know for sure that MVS/SP was
an addon to OS/VS2 3.8
The big problem is that no one knows how to read, or write, anymore. I
was at a well known, excellent engineering school not long ago. I
happened to pass by a bulletin board that held postings put up by
faculty and students to announce things that were happening around the
campus. The spelling
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On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 11:26:44 -0500, Thompson, Steve
Can anyone tell me the lowest level of COBOL for z/OS that supports the XML
parser? And the lowest level that supports the XML generator?
Kay Rozeboom
State of Iowa
Information Technology Enterprise
Department of Administrative Services
Telephone: 515.281.6139 Fax: 515.281.6137
Email:
Were the postings put up by faculty any better, on average, than those put up
by students?
By the way, I think you meant The spelling and grammar in the postings WERE
horrible. :-)
Bill Fairchild
Software Developer
Rocket Software
275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA
Tel:
I was graciously given some jcl to do a sort of an unloaded racf db.
The problem is I am getting:
ICE218A 1 26 BYTE VARIABLE RECORD IS SHORTER THAN 28 BYTE MINIMUM FOR
FIELDS
the jcl is:
//TOOLIN DD *
SORTFROM(INDD) TO(TEMP0001) USING(ULDF)
DISPLAY FROM(TEMP0001) LIST(PRINT) -
Hi,
We are using DB2 V7 on our system and getting following error message
when we are trying to drop or alter a tablespace.
Error description
DSNT408I SQLCODE = -904, ERROR: UNSUCCESSFUL EXECUTION CAUSED B
UNAVAILABLE RESOURCE. REASON 00E70081
Does this has any relation with dynamic cache
larry macioce wrote:
The problem is I am getting:
ICE218A 1 26 BYTE VARIABLE RECORD IS SHORTER THAN 28 BYTE MINIMUM
FOR FIELDS
What is the attribute of your INDD dataset, ie the IRRDBU00's output dataset?
This should be like this:
Organization . . . : PS
Record format . . . : VB
Record
It may have just been mangled by email, but your OPTION VLSHRT looks like
it's just a comment on the INCLUDE statement. The OPTION statement should be
on a separate line, and I would normally put it before the SORT statement,
though that may not be required.
larry macioce mace1...@gmail.com
Ron,
Thanks and I believe I'm having firewall issues with some our the
e-mails, so please be patient.
Regards,
Tobias Cafiero
Data Resource Management
Tel: (212) 855-1117
Ron Hawkins ron.hawkins1...@sbcglobal.net
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Keep your silly political wise cracks to yourself, that is not appropriate here.
Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbm1.com 3/1/2010 8:42 AM
snip
Wonder what the real story is here -- a 9370 in a closet?
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-secret-service-outdated-computer-mainf
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Subject: COBOL levels for XML
Can anyone tell me the lowest level of COBOL for z/OS that
supports
On 1 Mar 2010 07:55:11 -0800, thomas.kel...@commercebank.com (Kelman,
Tom) wrote:
The big problem is that no one knows how to read, or write, anymore.
This is always a complaint. And by always, I go back as far as
recorded history exists.
I was at a well known, excellent engineering school
Well the message is telling you that you're expecting a field at least 28 bytes
long (because of the 19,10,CH statement) but you've only read in a record of 26
bytes.
That does seems a bit strange. I mean, that date field is surely either going
to be there in its entirety or not at all, not
I suspect this has been covered before but my search yields lots of results
but not the answer to this particular question.
Is there a way ***from the ISPF command line*** to type something similar to
Option === TSO FOO bar
And have FOO (which is assumed to be a Rexx CLIST) see 'bar'
Speaking as someone who has firsthand knowledge (but not with Secret Service)
of using 1980s mainframes (yes the hardware, not just the applications) in
government as late as 3 years ago when the system was finally taken offline,
budget is most likely not the issue.
If someone who built the
Charles,
Is FOO a REXX EXEC or a CLIST. They are not the same. REXX is one
command set and processor and CLIST is a completely different command
set and processor.
With respect to your question, I have never been successful getting
lower case passed to a CLIST however, I have never had a problem
Frank will correct me if I'm mistaken but I believe you might need the
VLSCMP option. This will cause DFSORT to pad short variable
length INCLUDE/OMIT compare fields with binary zeroes.
Have a nice day,
Dave Betten
DFSORT Development, Performance Lead
IBM Corporation
email: bet...@us.ibm.com
Use PARSE ARG instead of ARG (which defaults to PARSE UPPER ARG).
Jim Horne
Systems Programmer
Large Systems Engineering Messaging NC4IT
Lowe's Companies, Inc.
1000 Lowe's Boulevard
Mooresville, NC
704-758-5354
jim.ho...@lowes.com
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On 1 Mar 2010 06:03:06 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
Let's keep the politics out of the Listserv discussions, because it'll get
very ugly!
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On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 09:22:11 -0800, Charles Mills wrote:
Is there a way ***from the ISPF command line*** to type something similar to
Option === TSO FOO bar
And have FOO (which is assumed to be a Rexx CLIST) see 'bar' rather than
'BAR'?
Depends on the command line. In EDIT, for example, which
larry macioce wrote on 03/01/2010 08:14:15 AM:
I was graciously given some jcl to do a sort of an unloaded racf db.
The problem is I am getting:
ICE218A 1 26 BYTE VARIABLE RECORD IS SHORTER THAN 28 BYTE MINIMUM FOR
FIELDS
the jcl is:
//TOOLIN DD *
SORTFROM(INDD) TO(TEMP0001)
David Betten wrote on 03/01/2010 09:25:58 AM:
Frank will correct me if I'm mistaken but I believe you might need the
VLSCMP option. This will cause DFSORT to pad short variable
length INCLUDE/OMIT compare fields with binary zeroes.
OPTION VLSHRT
on a separate line will work, but
OPTION
John,
What they're doing is this:
They want to point all the Unix Services directory paths to
/Service/whatever for installing the new software/maintenance. They
don't know if you already have some DDDEFs already pointing to /Service.
They run the first one to remove any /Service from the paths
Rozeboom, Kay [DAS] wrote:
Can anyone tell me the lowest level of COBOL for z/OS that supports the XML
parser? And the lowest level that supports the XML generator?
Kay Rozeboom
State of Iowa
Information Technology Enterprise
Department of Administrative Services
Telephone: 515.281.6139
Use PARSE ARG instead of ARG (which defaults to PARSE UPPER ARG).
That's only part of the solution.
ISPF maps everything to upper-case, by default.
So:
=== tso foo bar
is passed as:
FOO BAR
to the command processor
-
Too busy driving to stop for gas!
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea005bde01...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom, on
03/01/2010
at 08:23 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said:
This is not really about IBM mainframes. But it is, in a sense, about
computing in general. And, perhaps, why mainframes are viewed as archaic.
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Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 11:08 AM
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Subject: Re: OT: need for SmartUser?
In
Let me be more specific. I have a dataset that is allocated to SYSEXEC. It
has a member FOO consisting (in its entirety) of
/* Rexx */
say Arg(1)
parse arg tt
say tt
When I enter
Command === tso foo bar
The output is
BAR
BAR
***
What am I missing?
Charles
Charles,
I copied your statements into a new member in my REXX PDS and executed
it and I got:
File Edit Edit_Settings Menu Utilities
FOOHARCH03.REXX.EXEC(FOO) - 01.00
Command === tso foo bar
**
Ah. Right you are. From the main menu or edit *file panel* it works as I
described but from within the editor itself I get
bar
bar
***
G. Yes, exactly, as you might have guessed, my requirement has to do
with UNIX files. I can see IBM's possible backward compatibility issue here
Seems to work fine for me. Also, the PDS into which I placed it was allocated
to SYSEXEC and not SYSPROC.
As Paul pointed out, since EDIT handles mixed case, it works there.
Try it from the Option Line at any of the ISPF/PDF utilities (usually
3.something).
-
Too busy driving to stop for gas!
--snip---
FORTRAN H and FORTH are two very different languages. I don't know if
there was ever a FORTH implementation for OS/360.
---unsnip---
I was completely
OT to my real question but okay, I guess I was imprecise. I used CLIST to
mean some script invocable as a command from TSO (and BTW written in the
Rexx language) -- not to mean the CLIST language itself. I do know the
difference.
Charles
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Yeah, I just tried it from the ISPF main menu and I got upper case for
both of the say statements.
I second that Grrr, Grrr!
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To:
I figured that, but being a support person I have learned to always ask
the obvious. You sometimes get surprised by the answer.
In fact, OT, this weekend I was working at a fundraiser pancake
breakfast and they were having problems making coffee in a big 100-cup
electric pot. No one could figure
On 1 March 2010 13:14, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote:
Using RETRIEVE I can see that the issue is indeed in ISPF itself, not the TSO
command.
G. Or did I say that?
Indeed you did. This is just another of the many TSO things that ISPF
has willfully or negligently broken over the
there was something about after (7 years ago today), secret service was
absorbed into dept. homeland security ... something like 1/3rd of secret
service budget found its way elsewhere.
--
42yrs virtualization experience (since Jan68), online at home since Mar1970
Too bad there's no vaccie for Stupid Syndrome. :-__
Bill Fairchild wrote:
Fast food restaurant chains have a lot of experience with successfully dumbing
down the keyboard of their cash registers. You might try contacting the chief
architect of cash register design for McDonald's:
Time to fire some grade school teachers and get the rest back to
teaching some basic skills. I've seen similar scenarios when
interviewing applicants. Including one that I actually had to read the
applications to him. (Company policy was that everyone had to submit an
application, even if the
Too bad there's no vaccie for Stupid Syndrome. :-__
Too bad END USER is not a valid instruction on any platform!
Ignorance is curable.
Stupidity is forever!
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Translation to uppercase is almost always performed by the ISPF panel rather
than the program that displays the panel. This is because panel attributes
default to CAPS(ON) unless specifically stated otherwise (which most panel
developers don't do). So, most panels translate all input to
-snip-
Did the people understand the postings as written? That is the acid test.
Legal papers get edited and checked and re-checked - which doesn't mean
they are unambiguously clear.
Time to fire some grade school teachers and get the rest back to teaching some
basic skills.
Hear! Hear!
When I was in elementary/secondary school, my non-English teachers still graded
my English on all assignments.
When my sons went through, it didn't matter!
I complained to my younger's
THAT was fun!! :D
Regards,
Thomas Berg
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Skickat: den 1 mars 2010 19:42
Till:
Did you look up the reason code?
Robert Galambos CIPP/C CIPP/IT
Compuware Senior Technical Specialist
IBM Certified Database Associate
IBM Certified DB2 9 for z/OS Database Administration
Certified Information Privacy Professional/Canada
Certified Information Privacy
--snip--
Too true. Too bad we can't do to our users what a DI can do to their
recruits to get them to shape up. (drop and give me 50, you button
clicking idiot!!)
*Error description** *
*DSNT408I SQLCODE = -904, ERROR: UNSUCCESSFUL EXECUTION CAUSED B*
*UNAVAILABLE RESOURCE. REASON 00E70081, TYPE OF RESOURC*
* RESOURCE NAME HRTST7.PS_EMPL_NAME_SRCH*
*DSNT418I SQLSTATE = 57011 SQLSTATE RETURN CODE*
*DSNT415I SQLERRP= DSNXIDMH SQL
The flip side of this coin is that we who build the technical guts of products
all too easily can become arrogant. If there weren't dumb end users, we
developers would have much smaller incomes. I used to quip that users exist to
stress-test my code. Then I upgraded my quip to say that users
Frank, thank you, Scott pointed that out and sure enough that was it.
I appreciate all the help,
where can I find what fields I need to pull as the auditor wants changed now
thanks
Larry
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Frank Yaeger yae...@us.ibm.com wrote:
David Betten wrote on 03/01/2010
The flip side of this coin is that we who build the technical guts of products
all too easily can become arrogant.
Possibly.
If there weren't dumb end users, we developers would have much smaller incomes.
I don't have a problem with most users.
But, there are always a couple that prove the
I have a different point of view on this. The way I see it is that ISPF is
designed first and foremost to run ISPF applications. It's not designed to run
TSO, UNIX, DOS commands, or anything else.
The vast majority of ISPF applications are not case sensitive and have no need
to be. By
When you performed the POR, did you select the correct IOCSDS?
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I got a strange
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Subject: Re: OT: need for SmartUser?
The flip side of this coin is that we who build the technical
guts
Almost every VSAM file SELECT we have is coded as below:
SELECT HISTORY-FILE
ASSIGN TO GCR05KSD
RECORD KEY IS HST05-KEY
ORGANIZATION IS INDEXED
ACCESS IS DYNAMIC
FILE STATUS IS HISTORY-STATUS.
That is, with ACCESS IS DYNAMIC. This despite the fact that the file is opened
On 3/1/2010 2:24 PM, Bill Fairchild wrote:
The flip side of this coin is that we who build the technical
guts of products all too easily can become arrogant. If
there weren't dumb end users, we developers would have much
smaller incomes.
Several years ago I worked for an ISV whose most
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:00:37 -0600 McKown, John
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote:
:Almost every VSAM file SELECT we have is coded as below:
:SELECT HISTORY-FILE
:ASSIGN TO GCR05KSD
:RECORD KEY IS HST05-KEY
:ORGANIZATION IS INDEXED
:ACCESS IS DYNAMIC
:FILE STATUS IS
What is the programming language (or control language) used to generate
PAGE and FORMDEFs?
What manual describes its syntax?
I need to attempt to figure out what a complex 'program' is doing and
I've never looked at one before.
Thanks for any guidance.
Bill
Try IBM Page Printer Formatting Aid: User's Guide, S544-5284-08 (z/OS 1.11)
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George.William
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 1:16 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: PAGEDEF Coding
What is the
Bill,
The programming language is called Page Printer Formatting Aid and
the program name used to compile is AKQPPFA. Its described in PPFA
user's guide.
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/printsoftware/ppfahome_m_ww.html
Natarajan
On 03/01/2010 01:15 PM, George.William wrote:
What
I would be interested in finding out what the real hardware and opsys is
that these reporters are so disdainful of. And it would be fun for a
community of reasonable experts in computing (IBM-MAIN, IBMVM, etc) to
review and critique the modernization plans. Are they going to a z10?
Windows 2003?
Thanks!
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Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 1:23 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: PAGEDEF Coding
Try IBM Page Printer Formatting Aid: User's Guide, S544-5284-08 (z/OS
1.11)
So, you would think that a look at the S/360 POP might explain it.
Silly me; I thought so too. Certainly the OS/360 loogic manuals explained
it.
IBM System/360 Principles of Operation A22-6821-0:
The timer consists of a full word in main storage location 80. The
timer word is counted down at a
John,
ACCESS IS DYNAMIC has to do with specifying how the data set is to be
processed: sequentially, randomly or both(DYNAMIC). Unless there has been
changes to zOS regarding VSAM files this is the ways it has been since 1987
of earlier.
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 4:00 PM, McKown, John
I think I may know who you are talking about ;-) I assume this was the same
ISV you and I worked together at?
Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net 3/1/2010 4:06 PM
Several years ago I worked for an ISV whose most valuable
employee worked in the Quality Assurance group. She had a knack
for
Could someone give me a synopsis of what this block of code does
so I can see if I'm starting to understand?
PRINTLINE CHANNEL 2;
POSITION 10 MM 260 MM
COLOR BLUE REPEAT 2;
CONDITION PAGE2 START 1 LENGTH 1
WHEN GE X'00' AFTER SUBPAGE
NULL PAGEFORMAT PG2;
ENDSUBPAGE;
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:34:59 -0500, Scott Rowe wrote:
I think I may know who you are talking about ;-) I assume this was the same
ISV you and I worked together at?
Gerhard Postpischil 3/1/2010 4:06 PM
Several years ago I worked for an ISV whose most valuable
employee worked in the Quality
It would be even better if IBM stopped using the default of /Service for everything zos, cics,
db2 etc.. It would be a bit smarter if the default was something unique for each order
/service/orderno (with 'orderno' being the actual order number
or maybe
/service/zos/orderno
I use /SMPE/zone, where zone = my SMPE zone name (zone name = sysres volser for
MVS), and I use automount to control /SMPE. I only use /Service while loading
the ServerPac, so I have no concerns overwriting anything. I have no desire
for IBM to change the process.
Roy Hewitt
I guess I should note that I am speaking only as an application developer. So
I come at it from a different perspective than most of those on this list.
But a few things I miss from VSE:
- Superior JCL symbolics.
- System level symbolics availble for use in batch JCL.
- JCL DATE card to
Look at the PPFA manual.
Joe.
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 14:44:58 -0800
From: william.geo...@ftb.ca.gov
Subject: Re: PAGEDEF Coding
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Could someone give me a synopsis of what this block of code does
so I can see if I'm starting to understand?
PRINTLINE CHANNEL
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 14:34:41 -0500, Dave Salt wrote:
The vast majority of ISPF applications are not case sensitive and have no need
to be. By default, ISPF converts all input to uppercase. For ISPF dialog
developers, this is good. The words vast majority and default go
hand-in-hand, and IBM
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:47:12 -0500, Dave Salt wrote:
One way around this is to go to a panel where the command line is known to
support lowercase characters, such as Edit or SimpList. The command could even
be stored in a SimpList object list so it doesn't need to be remembered or
reentered.
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well.
Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com writes:
misc. past posts mentioning DUMPRX.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#dumprx
from long ago and far away
Sure has a lot of (thoughtful) rants for a guy that doesn't much care
... :0)
Shane ...
On Tue, Mar 2nd, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
mutter, grumble, bah-humbug ...
But I don't much care. All my data sets are NFS-exported,
and I can use Solaris or OS X tools on them as I choose.
try entering a DOS command in Windows Notepad
Notepad is a particularly minimal editor; hardly a good comparison to a
product that costs $$$ per month. DOS and other sorts of commands (FTP, Web,
etc.) may be issued from within my Windows text editor of choice, the
terrific and free NoteTab
From: charl...@mcn.org
the fact is that the TSO command is unusable for a great number of
situations (most panels in conjunction with most UNIX files) and therefore
is broken in design.
This is where we see things differently. From my perspective there is NO
situation where TSO commands are
On 1 March 2010 20:21, Frank Swarbrick frank.swarbr...@efirstbank.com wrote:
But a few things I miss from VSE:
[...]
- Return code checking that actually makes sense (can anyone give a good
reason for how COND works?).
A reason - no. How it works is not obvious, but not hard either. If
From: Frank Swarbrick frank.swarbr...@efirstbank.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Mon, March 1, 2010 7:21:52 PM
Subject: Re: Item on TPF
I guess I should note that I am speaking only as an application developer. So
I come at it from a different perspective
From: McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Mon, March 1, 2010 8:23:23 AM
Subject: OT: need for SmartUser?
This is not really about IBM mainframes. But it is, in a sense, about computing
in general. And, perhaps, why mainframes
From: paulgboul...@aim.com
Actually, no. The vast majority of ISPF applications _are_ case
sensitive (although they don't need to be). If they were case
insensitive, there'd be no need to convert their input to upper case.
I think we're just using a different interpretation of 'case
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