Re: Time Gap in System Trace

2010-07-28 Thread Edward Jaffe
Jim Mulder wrote: ... And we intentionally suppress tracing of CLKC and EXT 1005 (CPU timer) events when a processor is in no-work wait (under the assumption that these are usually relatively uninteresting compared to the old trace entries which would wrap out of the trace). Every time

Re: United Statesians (was C-I-C-S vs KICKS)

2010-07-28 Thread Ron Hawkins
Bruce, Struth mate. I thought Mexico was another name for Victoria. It's south of the border also... Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bruce Hewson Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 12:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu

Re: CFRM Structure Names

2010-07-28 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
You're right, it tasts quite 'unreal'. I like the liquid ones better. Kees. Scott Rowe scott.r...@joann.com wrote in message news:4c4ec3cd.8489.00d...@joann.com... Who would want a VIRTUAL beer anyway, they are not anywhere near as good as the real thing! Richards, Robert B.

Re: Any ROT for DASD Response time

2010-07-28 Thread Ron Hawkins
Hal, OK, the OP is believing how RMF III reports DASD Delays (not contention). Let's stop at that basic error. Connect time is counted as Using in RMF III, so opportunities to reduce IO elapsed time by reducing IO count, as you described, will never be found with RMF III delay analysis

Re: EMC Timefinder Snap and Dealloc

2010-07-28 Thread Ron Hawkins
Bill, Sample from syslog: NC000 PE01 10208 23:51:26.99 HAWKINS 0210 V 8000-807F,OFFLINE MR000 PE01 10208 23:51:27.82 HAWKINS 0010 IEE457I 23.51.27 UNIT STATUS 716 LR716 0010 UNIT TYPE STATUS VOLSER

Re: remove() of PDSE member leaves PDS locked

2010-07-28 Thread Etienne Thijsse
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:33:10 -0500, Barbara Nitz nitz-...@gmx.net wrote: Can you show the ENQ that you're talking about? Reason I am asking is that I don't believe that you're faced with an ENQ. Rather, you are probably faced with a latch, as that is the way PDSE (and HFS) members and

Re: Another reason to hate PDSE's

2010-07-28 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 12:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Another reason to hate PDSE's SNIP If you don't understand what's wrong with PDS, re-read Etienne

smp requirement

2010-07-28 Thread Munif Sadek
to apply a sysmod what are the SMP DATASETS required besides global / target zones CSI and smppts dataset. thanks Munif. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu

Re: smp requirement

2010-07-28 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:05:53 -0500, Munif Sadek munif.sa...@gmail.com wrote: to apply a sysmod what are the SMP DATASETS required besides global / target zones CSI and smppts dataset. thanks Munif. A little RTFM never hurts... Specific reference from the commands manual:

Re: remove() of PDSE member leaves PDS locked

2010-07-28 Thread Don Poitras
Etienne Thijsse wrote: On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:33:10 -0500, Barbara Nitz nitz-...@gmx.net wrote: Can you show the ENQ that you're talking about? Reason I am asking is that I don't believe that you're faced with an ENQ. Rather, you are probably faced with a latch, as that is the way PDSE

Re: John Gilmo re's Mungi ng of Subj ect lines (was Re: H ashin g al gorith m)‏

2010-07-28 Thread Don Poitras
john gilmore wrote: The munging comes and the munging goes. Today it is occurring. Yesterday it did not. Did you use hotmail to post yesterday? All the munged posts have the previously reported odd header: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1256 John Gilmore Ashland, MA

Re: Another reason to hate PDSE's

2010-07-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:04:52 -0400, Thompson, Steve wrote: SNIP If you don't understand what's wrong with PDS, re-read Etienne Thijsse's thread on attempting to delete a PDSE member. Or imagine my astonished dismay the first time I allocated a member with DISP=(OLD,DELETE) and watched the entire

Fwd: RE: Looking for 4 DBA’s with z/OS experi ence-Remote

2010-07-28 Thread Anton Britz
Hi, Somebody in IBM is trying to generate a false perception of JOBS out there. (See all the email's below) Imagine that ? Smoke and mirrors from IBM after they have been dumping people all over the WORLD all the time. Note: This type of behavior only works for people that watch the FOX

Re: Please comment:What's so special about parallel sysplex

2010-07-28 Thread Hal Merritt
IMHO, the author did not pose any meaningful questions. The statement 'A is better than B' makes no sence unless there is some sort of context that establishes the comparison crieria. I had to laugh at the statement: Another hypothesis is, that most mainframe guys doesn't know what's

Re: smp requirement

2010-07-28 Thread Lizette Koehler
To apply a sysmod will depend on the product and its target libraries needed. The SMPE Users Guide is very helpful in this or the SMPE Commands book. To Apply - the SMPE libraries + the Target and Distlibs for the sysmod. If you run an APPLY CHECK S(???). If anything is missing it will

Re: John Gilmo re's Mungi ng of Subj ect lines (was Re: H ashin g al gorith m)

2010-07-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:19:45 -0400, Don Poitras wrote: john gilmore wrote: The munging comes and the munging goes. Today it is occurring. Yesterday it did not. Did you use hotmail to post yesterday? All the munged posts have the previously reported odd header: Content-Type: text/plain;

Re: Looking for 4 DBA’s with z/OS experience-Remote

2010-07-28 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Well, then you must watch the FOX channel that you are disparaging, since it appears as though you bit at the job opportunity... Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Anton Britz Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 9:31 AM To:

Re: John Gilmo re's Mungi ng of Subj ect lines (was Re: H ashin g al gorith m)

2010-07-28 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/28/2010 9:48:43 A.M. Central Daylight Time, paulgboul...@aim.com writes: Thanks to Bill Godfrey, the researcher, Things that come and go gives one pause to wonder where the trojan lives? -- For

Re: remove() of PDSE member leaves PDS locked

2010-07-28 Thread Etienne Thijsse
TSO RMFMON SENQ D M goes back to menu. Z exits the utility. Thanks :-) Etienne -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search

Re: Neon tries again to make a slap at IBM

2010-07-28 Thread Guy Gardoit
Neon and their ridiculous software is just a minor annoyance to IBM who will slap them down in court or just buy them and dismantle their product. On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 5:41 AM, Kelman, Tom thomas.kel...@commercebank.com wrote: Well, this article is certainly a slam at Neon with this

Re: Neon tries again to make a slap at IBM

2010-07-28 Thread Edward Jaffe
Guy Gardoit wrote: Neon and their ridiculous software is just a minor annoyance to IBM who will slap them down in court or just buy them and dismantle their product. I doubt that IBM will buy Neon (or zPrime) to solve this issue. IBM killed Flex-ES and bought PSI, But, that didn't stop

IBM Is Hiring

2010-07-28 Thread Jim Marshall
Just passing this along here in my part of the land. Jim Marshall IBM is Hiring! Interview with us on July 27th in McLean,VA. Do you think the world can work smarter? Join us. Let's build a smarter planet. Interview with IBM at our upcoming open house on Tuesday July 27th at the

ShopZseries site error

2010-07-28 Thread Silvio Camplani
Is anyone else getting a bad gateway error when trying to access ShopZ? Thanks, Silvio -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO

Re: ShopZseries site error

2010-07-28 Thread McKown, John
Firefox on XP/Pro is getting 502 Bad Gateway. Perhaps they should use an x series instead of a Gateway? (just a bad joke). -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone *

Re: IBM Is Hiring

2010-07-28 Thread Ken Porowski
One of the listings is for Functional Consultants As opposed to what, dis-functional or non-functional? Sadly I didn't see anything that would have been Mainframe specific. -Original Message- Jim Marshall Just passing this along here in my part of the land. Jim Marshall IBM is

Re: IBM Is Hiring

2010-07-28 Thread Bill Fairchild
The main thing I noticed is that the one-day-long open house occurred yesterday. I assume Jim posted it as soon as he saw it, which would also have been one day too late. :-( Bill Fairchild Rocket Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: IBM Is Hiring

2010-07-28 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I know IBM is hiring in Dubuque Iowa. I believe they are also setting up a center like Dubuque in Columbia, Ohio. I don't remember when that is opening though. Most of the jobs at both places are not for MVS, but some jobs are. -- Eric Bielefeld Systems Programmer 563-845-4363 Ken

Re: remove() of PDSE member leaves PDS locked

2010-07-28 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 1:15 PM -0700 on 7/27/10, Edward Jaffe wrote about Re: remove() of PDSE member leaves PDS locked: Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: What is so hard (or dangerous) about just altering the status of the EXC to SHR and then running the same code as the DEQ (after first checking if the second entry

Re: IBM Is Hiring

2010-07-28 Thread Bob Rutledge
I believe that Columbia is the one in Missouri. Bob Eric Bielefeld wrote: I know IBM is hiring in Dubuque Iowa. I believe they are also setting up a center like Dubuque in Columbia, Ohio. I don't remember when that is opening though. Most of the jobs at both places are not for MVS, but

Re: IBM Is Hiring

2010-07-28 Thread Lizette Koehler
Eric, Do you mean COLUMBUS or COLUMBIA in OHIO? Lizette I know IBM is hiring in Dubuque Iowa. I believe they are also setting up a center like Dubuque in Columbia, Ohio. I don't remember when that is opening though. Most of the jobs at both places are not for MVS, but some jobs are.

share mainframe disk experience

2010-07-28 Thread Tommy Tsui
hi all our shop plan to buy a new mainframe disk with pprc, anyone have suggestion on emc vmax or ds8700. which one is better. can we share? such as easytier flashdrive, maintenance,io/cache perforamce etc many thanks -- 從我的行動裝置傳送

Re: remove() of PDSE member leaves PDS locked

2010-07-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:06:24 -0400, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: respect the DISP=SHR request. The fact that the SYSDSN ENQ is not compatible with a shared DASD environment (a design flaw that ISPF fixes with its ENQ requests by adding the VOLSER to the DSN in its RNAME Parm) due to the no longer

Encryption Software products

2010-07-28 Thread Meganen Naidoo
Hi everyone, One of our smaller clients, running on a Z9-BC, encryption requirements is for encryption of data at rest, encryption of tape data, support the OpenPGP format and usage of digital certificates. IBM's Encryption Facility for z/OS V1.2 has all of the required functionality but a

zEnterprise announcement

2010-07-28 Thread Bern VK2KAD
Hi all I'm in the process of absorbing material about the zEnterprise announcement and one thing has me a little bewildered. The zBX will eventually have x86 blades - there is mention that you will be able to run Linux so presumably you will be able to run VMWare. Am I off on a tangent or

Re: zEnterprise announcement

2010-07-28 Thread John McKown
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 11:27 +1000, Bern VK2KAD wrote: Hi all I'm in the process of absorbing material about the zEnterprise announcement and one thing has me a little bewildered. The zBX will eventually have x86 blades - there is mention that you will be able to run Linux so presumably

Re: share mainframe disk experience

2010-07-28 Thread Ron Hawkins
Tommy, I have a suggestion. I would suggest that the USP-V is better than either VMAX or DS8700. But I work for HDS, and this is a tongue in cheek reply. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tommy Tsui Sent:

Re: share mainframe disk experience

2010-07-28 Thread Stephen Mednick
Tommy, As a vendor-representative that has products designed for both platforms I'm not about to recommend one vendor platform over the other but have you had a chance to review IBM's announcement from last week for its DS8700 platform and z/OS DDB feature? Speaking from the sidelines it would

Off-topic Threads

2010-07-28 Thread Darren Evans-Young
There are severals threads that have gone way off-topic recently. Please keep the discussions on-topic please. Darren Evans-Young IBM-MAIN List Owner...still -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: Off-topic Threads

2010-07-28 Thread Rich Smrcina
The voice of sanity... On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Darren Evans-Young dar...@bama.ua.eduwrote: There are severals threads that have gone way off-topic recently. Please keep the discussions on-topic please. Darren Evans-Young IBM-MAIN List Owner...still

Re: C-I-C-S vs KICKS

2010-07-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1f8c422420f14fec8c413c54d2763...@ericnbpc, on 07/24/2010 at 02:18 PM, Eric Bielefeld eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com said: Two threads about how to pronounce CICS! And then, it vears off to hardware. (Not the computer kind). Are we at a new low? No; we could have been discussing whether to

Re: Another reason to hate PDSE's

2010-07-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In ahir46pl6pf37rnd70alkbiutp8vv4h...@4ax.com, on 07/26/2010 at 11:47 AM, Howard Brazee howard.bra...@cusys.edu said: I don't even like ordinary PDS. Other operating systems don't need them. ITYM that they call them something else. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT

Re: EMC Timefinder Snap and Dealloc

2010-07-28 Thread Ed Gould
Ron: --- On Wed, 7/28/10, Ron Hawkins ron.hawkins1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Ron Hawkins ron.hawkins1...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: EMC Timefinder Snap and Dealloc To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 1:54 AM Bill, Sample from syslog: NC000 PE01     10208

Re: remove() of PDSE member leaves PDS locked

2010-07-28 Thread Barbara Nitz
Etienne, How do I show ENQ's ? I am afraid I don't have any experience with stuff like this. I also have no idea what a latch is...? The easiest way is to do a D GRS command. Unfortunately, in order to use that, you need to know at least the major name. The ENQ that has been talked about would

Re: EMC Timefinder Snap and Dealloc

2010-07-28 Thread Ron Hawkins
Ed, I know what S DEALLOC is, or was. I started using it nearly 30 years ago. I have not used it for several years. I'm not sure what your point is Ed. If you are trying to say that something drove allocation in my example and caused all these devices to go offline, then I'd asked you to look at

Re: C-I-C-S vs KICKS

2010-07-28 Thread Ron Hawkins
You mean Jekyll... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John P Kalinich Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 11:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] C-I-C-S vs KICKS And there is JAY-SILL (JCL), the first

Re: remove() of PDSE member leaves PDS locked

2010-07-28 Thread Edward Jaffe
Barbara Nitz wrote: The easiest way is to do a D GRS command. Unfortunately, in order to use that, you need to know at least the major name. The ENQ that has been talked about would have a major name of SYSDSN, with minor name of your dataset. *That* ENQ is exclusive whenever there was a