Re: SMF timestamps

2011-09-07 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Walt Farrell wrote: The problem with the transition from daylight-saving time to standard time, Elardus, is that the hour from 1 a.m. to 2 a.m. (0100 to 0200) happens twice: once while you're on daylight saving time, and once when you've switched back to standard time. (Assuming I got the

Re: LE issue: RPTOPTS and RPTSTG - no output

2011-09-07 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Binyamin Dissen wrote: Yes, that was it. The ON parm is required. Good. I'm glad to read about this. What a relief... :-D How foolish of me. No, you are NOT 'foolish'. Only wise persons ask questions and you got your answer. Perhaps your documentation for those parms was incorrect? Groete /

Re: Jabberwocky (Was: PTF question)

2011-09-07 Thread Chris Mason
A Google survey shows that catch wins over snatch by a factor of about 1000. Um, sorry about that! I meant scratch obviously. When (trying to) double-check(ing) my facts I managed to overtype c with sn rather than scr and the reported number was about the same[1] as I recalled shortly

A Set and B set of z/OS system

2011-09-07 Thread saurabh khandelwal
Hello Group, For Maintenance reason I want to create B set for mainframe z/OS system. So that I will have two set of RES volume called A set and B set. My Idea is to run z/OS system from A set and apply Maintenance on B set. Once Maintenance applied

Re: SMF timestamps

2011-09-07 Thread Anthony Thompson
I suppose the trick is to ensure SMF records are processed in the order they are written. Look for Type 0 records to determine the time zone offset at IPL, start processing records of interest with that offset while also looking for Type 90 records with a SET CLOCK/DATE/RESET sub-type for any

Re: LE issue: RPTOPTS and RPTSTG - no output

2011-09-07 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 02:19:06 -0500 Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: :Binyamin Dissen wrote: :Yes, that was it. The ON parm is required. :Good. I'm glad to read about this. What a relief... :-D :How foolish of me. :No, you are NOT 'foolish'. Only wise persons ask

Re: A Set and B set of z/OS system

2011-09-07 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 13:27:16 +0530 saurabh khandelwal sourabhkhandelwal...@gmail.com wrote: :Hello Group, : For Maintenance reason I want to create B set for :mainframe z/OS system. So that I will have two set of RES volume called A :set and B set. : My Idea is

Re: SMF timestamps

2011-09-07 Thread John McKown
I hadn't really planned on sequential processing. That assumes that the relative physical sequence of individual records never change. Which implies not having been run through a sort process. Of course, we have multiple z/OS images and we merge all the SMF data together using DFSORT. This is done

Re: A Set and B set of z/OS system

2011-09-07 Thread saurabh khandelwal
Yes. for creating B set we also have to do indirect cataloging. I think this would we the first step. But I think there will be many more steps for creating B set of Target volume, which can help during Maintenance, so that we dont have to touch production system. Thanks Regards Saurabh On Wed,

Reminder to Place Any Orders for z/OS 1.12

2011-09-07 Thread Timothy Sipples
Please note that October 11, 2011, is the recommended last date to order z/OS 1.12 via ServerPac or CBPDO. I recommend using Shopz electronic delivery: https://www.ibm.com/software/shopzseries After October 25, z/OS 1.12 will only be available via SystemPac. Why not set an annual recurring

Re: Reminder to Place Any Orders for z/OS 1.12

2011-09-07 Thread Shane
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 17:42:10 +0800 Timothy Sipples wrote: After October 25, z/OS 1.12 will only be available via SystemPac. Why not set an annual recurring reminder in your calendar(s) for early September? Nah, that ain't gunna fly. Most sites will want something better than 1.12 in

Re: PTF question

2011-09-07 Thread Donald Likens
I can never get the r00 straight. I always opened each link until I found the PTF for my FMID. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN

Re: A Set and B set of z/OS system

2011-09-07 Thread Rob Schramm
Saurabh, I would do a search of IBM-Main's archives.. this topic has been covered alot over the years. There is a fair amount of debate on how to maintenance systems... but Dave Jousma introduced me to this method. And it works very well. But the quickie basics are: Step 1 - create a

IOWA

2011-09-07 Thread Ward, Mike S
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Re: A Set and B set of z/OS system

2011-09-07 Thread saurabh khandelwal
Thanks for reply. But the first problem is how do I indirectly catalog all the target dataset. Thanks Regards Saurabh On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Rob Schramm rob.schr...@gmail.com wrote: Saurabh, I would do a search of IBM-Main's archives.. this topic has been covered alot over the

Re: A Set and B set of z/OS system

2011-09-07 Thread Mark Jacobs
I have a program that will read the VTOC and create IDCAMS Define Nonvsam cards that will aid you in indirectly cataloging these datasets that I can send to you if you'd like. Mark Jacobs On 09/07/11 09:54, saurabh khandelwal wrote: Thanks for reply. But the first problem is how do I

Re: A Set and B set of z/OS system

2011-09-07 Thread saurabh khandelwal
Thanks Mark, Please send me the program. Also is this program will make all dataset indirectly catalog in target volume or only one dataset at a time and I have to rerun this program to indirectly catalog another dataset. Thanks Regards Saurabh On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 7:30

Re: A Set and B set of z/OS system

2011-09-07 Thread Mark Jacobs
It will read the entire vtoc and create the idcams command statements for all the datasets on the volume at one time. Mark Jacobs On 09/07/11 10:05, saurabh khandelwal wrote: Thanks Mark, Please send me the program. Also is this program will make all dataset indirectly

Re: A Set and B set of z/OS system

2011-09-07 Thread saurabh khandelwal
Can you please send me that program. Thanks Regards Saurabh On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Mark Jacobs mark.jac...@custserv.comwrote: It will read the entire vtoc and create the idcams command statements for all the datasets on the volume at one time. Mark Jacobs On 09/07/11 10:05,

Re: z/OS Systems Programmer Jobs in Dubuque Iowa

2011-09-07 Thread Bobbie Justice
Yes, a big no thank you to that one. I got a call from them when I was unemployed for several months, and after they told me the salary they were offering, I made a very quick decision to remain unemployed. I'll starve to death before I do systems programming work for the money they were

subtask recovery

2011-09-07 Thread Donald Likens
In the “IP Sockets Application Programming Interface Guide and Reference” IBM discusses data services task (DST). This uses sub-tasks to do I/O. When I designed my program using DSTs I had a problem I could not resolve. I have been informed by IBM that sub-tasks are suspended during an abend

Re: subtask recovery

2011-09-07 Thread Rob Scott
You could consider having a file owning TCB (FO-TCB) within your server, design structures that describe a file and a file action request and then you can send requests to some sort of queue monitored by the FO-TCB from your sub-tasks to open or close files. Your ESTAEs (or RESMGRs or EOT exit

Re: subtask recovery

2011-09-07 Thread Dave Day
Besides Rob's suggestion of another task, consider coding the estae routine such that you always retry. Never percolate the abend unless the SDWA is set with the no retry bit. Then, in your mainline code at the retry point, you take care of whatever you need to vis-a-vis the files. After

Re: SMF timestamps

2011-09-07 Thread Al Sherkow
I'm using SMF90 subtypes 1 2 to catch time and date changes from SET commands. This has worked well so far to provide the logic necessary to identify that the clock has been set back and there will be SMF30s and almost every other record type with an hour duplicated due to Daylight Saving Time

Re: subtask recovery

2011-09-07 Thread Binyamin Dissen
How would that help his subtasks if the parent task abends? I believe that was the OPs issue. On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 11:42:59 -0500 Dave Day david...@consolidated.net wrote: :Besides Rob's suggestion of another task, consider coding the estae routine :such that you always retry. Never percolate

Re: subtask recovery

2011-09-07 Thread Dave Day
If the parent task takes a program check that causes its estae to be driven, and that estae retries back to mainline task code, then that task has not abended. It has taken a program check, recovered, retried, and continued on. At the retry logic in the main parent task, it should be able to

Re: subtask recovery

2011-09-07 Thread McKown, John
Use POSIX threading instead of ATTACH? The semantics seem to be different in that there is no parent-child relationship. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone *

Re: subtask recovery

2011-09-07 Thread Tony Harminc
On 7 September 2011 13:15, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: Use POSIX threading instead of ATTACH? The semantics seem to be different in that there is no parent-child relationship. Well there is one, but it's possible for the parent to go away without taking the children with

Re: subtask recovery

2011-09-07 Thread john gilmore
Most of the disadvantages of hierarchical subtasking can be avoided by using a largely hidden control task that ATTACHes other working tasks, which may sometimes but not often ATTACH their own subtasks. Subtasks of an ABENDing [sub]task are ABENDed, but other subtasks of the control task

Re: subtask recovery

2011-09-07 Thread Steve Comstock
On 9/7/2011 1:01 PM, john gilmore wrote: Most of the disadvantages of hierarchical subtasking can be avoided by using a largely hidden control task that ATTACHes other working tasks, which may sometimes but not often ATTACH their own subtasks. Subtasks of an ABENDing [sub]task are ABENDed, but

Re: subtask recovery

2011-09-07 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
ISTR that the control task concept was how PL/1 tasking was (at least originally) defined, wasn't it? Haven't written or used any PL/1 for multiple decades now, so my memory bits could be somewhat corrupted. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: subtask recovery

2011-09-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 12:15:33 -0500, McKown, John wrote: Use POSIX threading instead of ATTACH? The semantics seem to be different in that there is no parent-child relationship. I had thought z/OS implements threads as tasks, so fork() would be needed to let the child outlive the parent. OTOH,

Re: z/OS Systems Programmer Jobs in Dubuque Iowa

2011-09-07 Thread Uriel Carrasquilla
What kind of money are you talking about? is it full time, on-site work? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] on behalf of Bobbie Justice [golds...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 11:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu

Re: z/OS Systems Programmer Jobs in Dubuque Iowa

2011-09-07 Thread Bobbie Justice
let me put it this way, I told them they needed to multiply the current salary they were offering based on their requirements by about 2 and 1/2 times, then add another $10,000 on top of that since I would eventually get tired of looking at Iowa cornfields, and then add another $15,000 on top

Re: SMF timestamps

2011-09-07 Thread Ed Gould
Interesting topic. SMF timestamps are a little bit tricky as they are not when the record is written but when they are created. So a record could be in storage and not written for as long as a week maybe more. We had one job that lasted a week. We had to change code to allow for this and it

OT Good/Bad News

2011-09-07 Thread Ed Gould
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Re: SMF timestamps

2011-09-07 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 09:36 -0500 on 09/06/2011, McKown, John wrote about Re: SMF timestamps: I should have said that I know how to convert the SMFSTAMP8 to RCF3339 format. The problem is determining the timezone offset for a specific date time rendered in LOCAL time. Now, for my own shop, there is only one

Re: A Set and B set of z/OS system

2011-09-07 Thread saurabh khandelwal
Hello, I tried compiling my assembler code to generate load modile. JCL I used for compile. 1) //A2x5x09$ JOB MSGCLASS=X,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),CLASS=B, // REGION=5M,NOTIFY=SYSUID //ASM08 EXEC PGM=ASMA90,PARM='NODECK,OBJ' //SYSLIB DD DSN=SYS1.SHASMAC,DISP=SHR // DD

Re: subtask recovery

2011-09-07 Thread David Crayford
On 8/09/2011 4:03 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 12:15:33 -0500, McKown, John wrote: Use POSIX threading instead of ATTACH? The semantics seem to be different in that there is no parent-child relationship. I had thought z/OS implements threads as tasks, so fork() would be