Re: Eight-character TSO Userid Support

2011-12-28 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2011-12-28 01:16, Paul Gilmartin pisze: On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 23:36:48 +0100, R.S. wrote: SUBMIT adds a character only if the job text does not contain JOB statement. IMHO submitting jobs without JOB statement is quick and DIRTY method. Very dirty. It can be easily changed to allow 8-char

PCOMM access to workstation file system

2011-12-28 Thread Itschak Mugzach
In a help panel (ISPWSDH1) explaining how to download the ISPF C/S client (ISPF OPT3.7), it says that you can also choose to have ISPF create the directory on your workstation For other purpose, i wonder how can this be done other then VBSCRIPT? ITschak

Re: Eight-character TSO Userid Support

2011-12-28 Thread Peter Sylvester
Hi, As far as I remember 8 char TSO userids are available when MVS is used with VM/XMAS under an augmented universe but only if you use the Undocumented Feature Option and the System Transition Application Real Generic Access Tool Environment. Otherwise I think the chance for metric to be used

Re: PCOMM access to workstation file system

2011-12-28 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 10:49:00 +0200, Itschak Mugzach wrote: In a help panel (ISPWSDH1) explaining how to download the ISPF C/S client (ISPF OPT3.7), it says that you can also choose to have ISPF create the directory on your workstation For other purpose, i wonder how can this be done other

Re: Eight-character TSOID support

2011-12-28 Thread John Gilmore
Steve Comstock wrote: begin snippet John, You've mentioned this frequently. I got to wondering if you can still call the C functions from an LE-enabled Assembler program? Should work, but I'm not sure if there are some cases where it doesn't. /end snippet 'Still'? In most cases these 'C'

sexist language

2011-12-28 Thread John Gilmore
No! No! No! My use of the word 'wench' was not sexist. It was an unthinking literary allusion, to some very celebrated---in some milieux---lines of Christopher Marlowe: Barnadine: Thou has committed--- Barabas: Fornication? But that was in another country; and besides, the wench is dead. I

Re: Eight-character TSO Userid Support

2011-12-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 10:42:16 +0100, Peter Sylvester wrote: I'd rather see an IPL being faster, etc. But re-read the OP. They is contending with Company Policy. http://www.thealders.net/humour/work/wk49.html -- gil --

Re: sexist language

2011-12-28 Thread J. Cassidy
Well there has been enough Topless solutions discussed to date, I suppose some wenching will not do any harm = No! No! No! = = My use of the word 'wench' was not sexist. It was an unthinking = literary allusion, to some very celebrated---in some milieux---lines = of Christopher Marlowe: = =

Re: Eight-character TSO Userid Support

2011-12-28 Thread Bill Godfrey
On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 23:36:48 +0100, R.Skorupka wrote: SUBMIT adds a character only if the job text does not contain JOB statement. IMHO submitting jobs without JOB statement is quick and DIRTY method. Very dirty. It can be easily changed to allow 8-char userids (add 1 charecter OR change eight

Re: Eight-character TSO Userid Support

2011-12-28 Thread Walt Farrell
On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 14:29:12 -0600, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: A RACF id can be 8 characters. But, in that case, they cannot have a TSO segment. So they cannot be used to logon to TSO. If you try, you get a message of some sort from the TSO logon process. They can be

Couple Data Sets - DR Considerations

2011-12-28 Thread Mark Jacobs
We recover three sysplex's at DR, two single system sysplexes and one multi-system parallel sysplex. Since we don't utilize any data replication processes, we still perform DR via full volume backups and restores using our providers floor system. The two single system sysplexes use their

Hiperbatch still supported ?

2011-12-28 Thread Daniel Cremieux
Dear MVS experts , I am a bit surprised to find the MVS Programming Hiperbatch Guide in z/os 1.13 docs , as far as i know this feature uses expanded storage and this disappears with 64 bits ? (Also soem products still use hiperspaces and dataspaces i suppose that they are now backed by

Re: Hiperbatch still supported ?

2011-12-28 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2011-12-28 16:37, Daniel Cremieux pisze: Dear MVS experts , I am a bit surprised to find the MVS Programming Hiperbatch Guide in z/os 1.13 docs , as far as i know this feature uses expanded storage and this disappears with 64 bits ? (Also soem products still use hiperspaces and

Re: Couple Data Sets - DR Considerations

2011-12-28 Thread Skip Robinson
We provide our own DR between data centers with fully mirrored disk, but we still handle couple data sets in a manner similar to yours. However, we do not create new WLM data sets. Do you have a specific reason for doing so? We (OS sysprogs) are caretakers of CFRM and logger policies, which can

Re: Couple Data Sets - DR Considerations

2011-12-28 Thread Mark Jacobs
Regarding the WLM couple datasets, no we don't have a reason other than the desire not to run with some production couple datasets, and some specifically for DR. Do you use your production logr couple dataset, or one specifically for DR? If the latter how do you keep the two in sync since

SDSF ISFPRM00

2011-12-28 Thread System Programmer
SDSF security using ISFPRM00 is not working as I expect. My userid is ending up in the DEFAULT group which is where I would expect it to be classsified. SDSF WHO displays GRPINDEX=17,GRPNAME=DEFAULT GROUP NAME(DEFAULT) AUPDT(0), TSOAUTH(JCL), ACTION(NONE), AUTH(I,O,H,DA),

Re: Couple Data Sets - DR Considerations

2011-12-28 Thread Skip Robinson
We use *all* couple data sets in DR, just not necessarily the mirrored copies. -- Sysplex, ARM, SFM, BPXMCDS, and WLM data sets are mirrored from production. -- CFRM data sets are created and populated with the (presumed) current CFRM policy from the driving system before first IPL. This

Re: Couple Data Sets - DR Considerations

2011-12-28 Thread Mark Jacobs
It would be SO nice to have a mirrored DR, but alas no. Thanks for your comments. Mark Jacobs On 12/28/11 14:04, Skip Robinson wrote: We use *all* couple data sets in DR, just not necessarily the mirrored copies. -- Sysplex, ARM, SFM, BPXMCDS, and WLM data sets are mirrored from production.

Semiprivileged instructions, part 1

2011-12-28 Thread Steve Comstock
[Cross-posted to the mainframe assembler list] [This is in two parts because of restrictions on posting size for the assembler list.] Based on some earlier posts on the mainframe assembler list, I have been researching the semiprivileged instructions to see which ones might be useful for

Semiprivileged instructions, part 2

2011-12-28 Thread Steve Comstock
[Cross-posted to the mainframe assembler list] [This is in two parts because of restrictions on posting size for the assembler list.] Now, let me just focus on the 23 semiprivileged instructions: BAKR- Branch and Stack BSA - Branch and Set Authority EPAR- Extract Primary ASN

Re: Couple Data Sets - DR Considerations

2011-12-28 Thread Mark Zelden
Mirroring didn't change the way we do things at my client. Going back to tape restore, mirroring to vendor DR site, or in-house mirroring which is done now, we used a new XCF and CFRM data set for DR and all the rest remained. By new, I mean freshly formatted and never used couple data sets

Re: PCOMM access to workstation file system

2011-12-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1210380970434908.wa.m42tomibmmainyahoo@bama.ua.edu, on 12/28/2011 at 06:25 AM, Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com said: On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 10:49:00 +0200, Itschak Mugzach wrote: In a help panel (ISPWSDH1) explaining how to download the ISPF C/S client (ISPF OPT3.7), it says that

Re: sexist language

2011-12-28 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip No! No! No! My use of the word 'wench' was not sexist. It was an unthinking literary allusion, to some very celebrated---in some milieux---lines of Christopher Marlowe: Barnadine: Thou has committed--- Barabas:

Regarding LE control blocks

2011-12-28 Thread Binyamin Dissen
The environment: Assembler LE main creates enclave FOO. It calls an Enterprise PL/I OPTIONS(MAIN) which creates enclave BAR PL/I program calls Enterprise COBOL. Enclave BAR ends. Enclave FOO abends during termination attempting to clean up COBOL data that was already freed during BAR

Re: Semiprivileged instructions, part 1

2011-12-28 Thread Tony Harminc
On 28 December 2011 15:16, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com wrote: The PoPs says, on page 5-24 in the PDF version (dz9zr008.pdf / SA22-7832-08), there are 23 semiprivilged instructions. [...] PC - Program Control That's Program Call... Tony H.

Re: Semiprivileged instructions, part 1

2011-12-28 Thread Steve Comstock
On 12/28/2011 2:57 PM, Tony Harminc wrote: On 28 December 2011 15:16, Steve Comstockst...@trainersfriend.com wrote: The PoPs says, on page 5-24 in the PDF version (dz9zr008.pdf / SA22-7832-08), there are 23 semiprivilged instructions. [...] PC - Program Control That's Program Call...

Re: Regarding LE control blocks

2011-12-28 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Just a guess, because you have OPTIONS(MAIN) on the PL/I? Have you tried with PL/I not main? On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com wrote: The environment: Assembler LE main creates enclave FOO. It calls an Enterprise PL/I OPTIONS(MAIN) which creates

Re: SDSF ISFPRM00

2011-12-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 2456729190332381.wa.sysproghelpgmail@bama.ua.edu, on 12/28/2011 at 12:33 PM, System Programmer sysprogh...@gmail.com said: SDSF security using ISFPRM00 is not working as I expect. It's been a while since I did it, but doesn't USERID refer to the userid rather than to the job name? I

Re: SDSF ISFPRM00

2011-12-28 Thread Bob Rutledge
System Programmer wrote: SDSF security using ISFPRM00 is not working as I expect. My userid is ending up in the DEFAULT group which is where I would expect it to be classsified. SDSF WHO displays GRPINDEX=17,GRPNAME=DEFAULT GROUP NAME(DEFAULT) AUPDT(0), TSOAUTH(JCL), ACTION(NONE),

Re: Tapeless Solutions

2011-12-28 Thread Russell Witt
Radoslaw, Sorry, the only link is to the SHARE web-site to lookup presentations. http://proceedings.share.org/proceedings/ The name of the presentation was 9969: Virtual Tape Replication Multi-Vendor Panel Discussion , so you should be able to find it by simply putting Virtual into the

Re: sexist language

2011-12-28 Thread Doug Fuerst
Sorry, but I agree as well. Wench is simply not sexist. This is pandering to political correctness. Soon, we will not be able to communicate at all without offending someone. I can't wait to retire. Doug -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu]

Re: cpu / machine identification

2011-12-28 Thread Brian Westerman
I don't mean to be flippant, but I seriously almost spit my diet coke all over my screen when I read the previous reply about allowing the software company to audit their system. :) I really don't think any site would readily agree to have their site audited by a software company for

Re: cpu / machine identification

2011-12-28 Thread Brian Westerman
We have our products tell how long they are licensed for (how much time is left) on each startup. When it gets within 45 days we make it highlighted (but still rolls off the screen), then at 15 days it stays on the screen. Then when it expires, we still have a grace period, that varies with

Re: cpu / machine identification

2011-12-28 Thread Brian Westerman
That's a good point, our code does put out the message at startup about the site it's licensed to. But if someone was going to run it purposely and not pay, zapping the one instance of the name is not as hard as changing every page of a 300 page book. The licensing scheme isn't to make life

Re: cpu / machine identification

2011-12-28 Thread Brian Westerman
That works for a site license and I agree with it for that type of license, but what about sites that purchase a single processor license and have 4 processors, or a systems programmer that decides that he can fix his friends problem by sending a copy of the code to them, or the one that

Re: cpu / machine identification

2011-12-28 Thread zMan
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Brian Westerman brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com wrote: That works for a site license and I agree with it for that type of license, but what about sites that purchase a single processor license and have 4 processors, or a systems programmer that decides that he

Re: Tapeless Solutions

2011-12-28 Thread Russell Witt
Ron, I talked to the Architect for CA-Vtape and he indicated that there are some clients using SATA drives as their primary cache. They knew it would be a little slower, but were okay with the performance. So, it really depends on the performance you require of your Virtual Tape System.

Re: Tapeless Solutions

2011-12-28 Thread Linda Mooney
Greetings to all who are interested in this presentation - First follow the link that Russell provided.  http://proceedings.share.org/proceedings/    Select SHARE in Orlando, if it is not already selected. Then under the Code column, scroll down to 9969, where the Virtual Tape

Re: cpu / machine identification

2011-12-28 Thread Shane
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 21:51:42 -0500 zMan wrote: re Brian Westerman Without any quoting, it's hard to tell what you're replying to...not trying to restart the quoting wars, but *some* reference is useful. Absolutely agree. Normally I like to read Brians opinions, but those last few just got

KILL THREAD! - sexist language

2011-12-28 Thread Darren Evans-Young
Subject line says it all. Please! Darren -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: cpu / machine identification

2011-12-28 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 20:10 -0600 on 12/28/2011, Brian Westerman wrote about Re: cpu / machine identification: That's a good point, our code does put out the message at startup about the site it's licensed to. But if someone was going to run it purposely and not pay, zapping the one instance of the name is not

MFNetDisk new features coming soon [ad]

2011-12-28 Thread shai hess
HI, I will enable users to check and let MFNetDisk verify if the PC is totally synchronize with the real disk 3390 by checking if pending tracks in MF and PC to be synchronize. I will support new compressed MFNetDisk 3390 disk format in open systems. This new format will not reduce the IO

Re: PCOMM access to workstation file system

2011-12-28 Thread Itschak Mugzach
I don't want to install WSA. I am interesting in the technique used to let ISPF to communicate with the machine PCOMM runs on. ITschak On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In 1210380970434908.wa.m42tomibmmainyahoo@bama.ua.edu, on

Clarification on Sysres Volumes(RMF)

2011-12-28 Thread jagadishan perumal
Hi, I was examining the RMF delay report where below is the report : Speed of 100 = Maximum, 0 = Stopped Average CPU Util: 19 % Name Users Active Speed Name Users Active Speed *SYSTEM 203 58 8 *DEV 107 54 8