Re: Turning on additional CPs

2012-02-10 Thread Timothy Sipples
I hate to ask the simple (possibly overlooked) question, but is it possible you moved from a configuration with 3 CPs to a configuration with 4 CPs but with more of a sub-capacity setting? That's certainly possible, at least on a System z10 BC. For example, if you started with a 2098-D03 capacity

Re: TLS, AT-TLS, Encryption Requirements

2012-02-10 Thread Timothy Sipples
Hal Merritt writes: IMHO, the biggest single challenge is certificate management. Certificates have a pretty steep learning curve. As with any encryption solution, the actual encryption is trivial but the key (certificate) management is a killer. It's exactly the same conceptual learning curve

Re: WLM Capping

2012-02-10 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
That did not work. In the CAS case, it was a task in CAS that held the catalog and not something that WLM could apply the ERV to. The same within USS. Kees. Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com wrote in message news:45e5f2f45d7878458ee5ca679697335502e25...@usdaexch01.kbm1.loc... That is why

CSSMTP and AUTH LOGIN smtp command

2012-02-10 Thread Eric Loriaux
Hi !   I'm currently trying to use CSSMTP with an SMTP server that will require AUTH LOGIN. Our IBM support saids it is not supported y CSSMTP and indeed it doesn't work.     I'm trying currently trying to configure CSSMTP to send its mail to a Microsoft Exchange server using authentification.

Re: PRINT (NOCC for z/OS?

2012-02-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 84ea18831601b6429e578236ae239b01a4c7d95...@eagnmnsxmb07.usa.dce.usps.gov, on 02/09/2012 at 01:26 PM, Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN dave.l.han...@usps.gov said: You can duplicate this using XMIT Which RECEIVE handles quite nicely. I'm just looking into a different way to get to the spool that

Re: OT The Big Blues: How the Giants and IBM got their nicknames - what's your opinion?

2012-02-10 Thread Bill Fairchild
As well as the giant whale in Gordon Lightfoot's musical ode of 1972. Bill Fairchild -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 11:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: OT The Big Blues:

System Dumps and SMS allocation fails

2012-02-10 Thread Ken Leidner
First this is a long entry, but I wanted to have all the information here in hope that someone would have the answer. We are trying to convert to using SMS managed volumes for our system dumps since we need the LARGE attribute for our large DB2 dumps. But something is preventing the dumps

Is there a separate discussion list somewhere for XLC?

2012-02-10 Thread Sevetson, Phil
I really don't want to be tapping this list for my growing pains with XL C++ on the mainframe, as it's starting to look like it's going to be one problem after another. Is there a more focused resource somewhere? Should I use a Usenet/Google newsgroup?

Re: Is there a separate discussion list somewhere for XLC?

2012-02-10 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
There may be more focused help available on the MVS-OE list here: For MVS-OE subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO MVS-OE HTH Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: CSSMTP and AUTH LOGIN smtp command

2012-02-10 Thread Mark Regan
CSSMTP and other TCP/IP applications are discussed on the IBMTCP-L mailing list.IBMTCP-L has over 1100 subscriber To subscribe, send mail to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the command in the e-mail message body: SUBSCRIBE IBMTCP-L Thanks, Mark Regan - Original Message - From: Eric

Re: Is there a separate discussion list somewhere for XLC?

2012-02-10 Thread Sevetson, Phil
Peter, thank you. I've also had an offer of assistance offlist from another user, and have found the DeveloperWorks forum for XL C/C++. I'll use these resources for things going forward. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of

Re: System Dumps and SMS allocation fails

2012-02-10 Thread Hervey Martinez
When allocating files via SMS, the SMS attributes then either have to be explicitly assigned or allowed to be assigned. You mention that the DC is one that is not listed in the parmlib and the volume is a non-sms volume; thus, check your ACS routines for the SMS allocation of these files.

Re: Is there a separate discussion list somewhere for XLC?

2012-02-10 Thread Charles Mills
I asked the same question two years ago and have come to the conclusion that no, there is not. OTOH there is a ton of C/C++ resource on the Web, and if the issue is purely a C/C++ issue (why am I not able to get my template class declaration to compile without error?) an answer that works for

Effective AVG MIPS/CP on a Multiprocessor z10

2012-02-10 Thread Jose Correa Saldeño
Effective AVG MIPS/CP on a Multiprocessor z10 An z10 E26 model 701 AVG MIPS/CP is 924 and a 702 866MIPS and a 703 834 and so far. My question is, If we have a 703 and we add 4 specialty engines like two IFL and two CF, what will be the AVG MIPS/CP.

Re: Effective AVG MIPS/CP on a Multiprocessor z10

2012-02-10 Thread Mark Post
On 2/10/2012 at 12:37 PM, Jose Correa Saldeñojcor...@evertecinc.com wrote: Effective AVG MIPS/CP on a Multiprocessor z10 An z10 E26 model 701 AVG MIPS/CP is 924 and a 702 866MIPS and a 703 834 and so far. My question is, If we have a 703 and we add 4 specialty engines like two IFL

Re: System Dumps and SMS allocation fails

2012-02-10 Thread Ken Leidner
I think you miss understood the comment. The message STORCLAS (SCDUMP) MGMTCLAS (MCDUMP) DATACLAS (DCDUMP) STORGRPS (SGDUMP ) has all of the correct attributes. This message IEF196I IGD100I D913 ALLOCATED TO DDNAME SYS00017 DATACLAS (DCDFALT) IEA799I AUTOMATIC ALLOCATION OF SVC DUMP DATASET

Re: PRINT (NOCC for z/OS?

2012-02-10 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 12:06:03 -0600, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: I had thought everything in the VM spool had carriage control (actually a CCW opcode). But I defer to your experience. Perhaps IPL is unaffected by the CCS opcode present in the spool. All user data in the VM spool

Re: System Dumps and SMS allocation fails

2012-02-10 Thread Mike Schwab
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Ken Leidner kleid...@earthlink.net wrote: deleted REQUESTED SPACE QUANTITY = 2311283 KB note 2.2 GB or so deleted The complete dataclass - The space is large 128,000 tracks or 6,240,000 KB.  Do I even need to code the space?  LRECL?  RECFM? Data Class Name :

Re: Turning on additional CPs

2012-02-10 Thread gsg
Thanks for the input Timothy. We have a 4 engine machine, but only had three turned on. We wanted to keep one in our back pocket, but then decided to turn on the 4th to see what it would do. We didn't get the expected results. However, you bring up some good points to consider regarding

Re: Is there a separate discussion list somewhere for XLC?

2012-02-10 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
There is a C370-List, too, but it is very quiet - almost no traffic the last months or years. If you want, you can try to discuss some topics with me offline - I'm not sure, if I can help you, but we can give it a try. My english needs yet to be improved ... Kind regards Bernd Am

Re: Turning on additional CPs

2012-02-10 Thread Ed Finnell
Guess I'd start with RMF WKLD and see if anything pops out. Device busy, LCU, Storage unit, paging and work from there. There are people and software to help you tune your system. _www.watsonwalker.com_ (http://www.watsonwalker.com) is a good place to start. Goal Tender will analyze goals

What QA tools do you use for testing?

2012-02-10 Thread Dave Day
I'd like to improve the quality of my code, before it goes out the door. Sometimes, some really stupid coding errors make it past my own testing. If your are writing the code, and then testing it yourself, you're kind of in a tunnel-vision scenario. This is an ISPF based

Question on Job Scheduling

2012-02-10 Thread Dan Gillis
I have a meeting with a customer next week to talk about z/OS batch job scheduling. They claim to have about 20 scheduling employees. In my past experience, that seems about 4x too high. So I thought I'd ask the group the following question: How many job schedulers do you have, and how many

Re: Question on Job Scheduling

2012-02-10 Thread Lizette Koehler
I have a meeting with a customer next week to talk about z/OS batch job scheduling. They claim to have about 20 scheduling employees. In my past experience, that seems about 4x too high. So I thought I'd ask the group the following question: How many job schedulers do you have, and how many

Re: Question on Job Scheduling

2012-02-10 Thread Mitch
Dan: Contact me off line, if you would. Some questions are: Is the zSeries only or z and LUW? Do they schedule for more than one environment? The obvious question; How many batch processes are scheduled, on average? Do they support lots and lots of on request and on demand jobs? Do they have a

Re: Question on Job Scheduling

2012-02-10 Thread Mitch
Lizette: Can you contact me offline? I have a few questions for you. Thank You, Mitch McCluhan, Legacy Modernization Consultant -Original Message- From: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com To: IBM-MAIN IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Fri, Feb 10, 2012 12:47 pm Subject: Re: Question

Re: System Dumps and SMS allocation fails

2012-02-10 Thread retired mainframer
:: -Original Message- :: From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On :: Behalf Of Ken Leidner :: Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 8:06 AM :: To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu :: Subject: System Dumps and SMS allocation fails :: :: First this is a long entry, but I wanted to

EXTRACT FIELDS=COMM for subtasks

2012-02-10 Thread Micheal Butz
Hi, I know EXTRACT FIELDS=COMM (using the ECB) for stop or modify command works for the TCB your running dunning the course of my programming I attach 4 other subtasks is there any parameter on the ATTACH e.g. like ALCOPY( work for access lists) where I can share COMECBPT among subtasks

Re: Effective AVG MIPS/CP on a Multiprocessor z10

2012-02-10 Thread Roger Lowe
Jose, It WON'T make a difference as you are talking about General Purpose CPs (GCPs) versus Speciality Engines (IFL,CF, IIP AAP etc). The Speciality Engines will run at full speed. Roger On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:37:23 -0400, Jose Correa Saldeño jcor...@evertecinc.com wrote: Effective

TS7700 Grid network throughput expectations

2012-02-10 Thread Bern VK2KAD
I am trying to work out how to calculate the throughput for inter-cluster TS7700 links. We currently have two TS7700s connected via GigE over about 20 miles. We want to attach a third cluster and I need to calculate how long the initial synch will take. The third cluster will be connected

Re: System Dumps and SMS allocation fails

2012-02-10 Thread Jim Mulder
First this is a long entry, but I wanted to have all the information here in hope that someone would have the answer. We are trying to convert to using SMS managed volumes for our system dumps since we need the LARGE attribute for our large DB2 dumps. But something is preventing the dumps

Re: EXTRACT FIELDS=COMM for subtasks

2012-02-10 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 2/10/2012 4:34 PM, Micheal Butz wrote: I know EXTRACT FIELDS=COMM (using the ECB) for stop or modify command works for the TCB your running dunning the course of my programming I attach 4 other subtasks is there any parameter on the ATTACH e.g. like ALCOPY( work for access lists) where I can

Re: EXTRACT FIELDS=COMM for subtasks

2012-02-10 Thread Tony Harminc
On 10 February 2012 16:34, Micheal Butz michealb...@optonline.net wrote: I know EXTRACT FIELDS=COMM (using the ECB) for stop or modify command works for the TCB your running dunning the course of my programming I attach 4 other subtasks is there any parameter on the ATTACH e.g. like ALCOPY(

Re: XML

2012-02-10 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
In the company I am working for, XML is more and more used for every kind of interface. For example if you have a system that is capable to get its input from outside (like commands to be executed), it is very likely that we will design the system so that it will get its commands or inputs in

Re: Simple iinventory control products?

2012-02-10 Thread Ed Gould
Greg: I am surprised a little bit by your attitude and am disappointed in your suggestion. I wasn't going to mention it but since you seemed to infer I wasn't professional I will add: Another person in the group I was in had a similar issue with them. The person was happy he didn't have to

Re: Simple iinventory control products?

2012-02-10 Thread John McKown
I'll have to speak up. We have a number of MacKinney products. We only had one problem with one of them, about 15 years ago. I worked on that with them and we fixed it together. It was a race condition in a CICS product. I won't try to say that the products are the top of the line. But they work

Re: Acceptable paging

2012-02-10 Thread Ron Hawkins
Kees, Have you thought of putting your page datasets into Permacache (EMC) or DCR (HDS). This would give you true SSD performance right on the channel, which is better than the SAS HDD emulation variety. Ron Dead, until you stop the Execution Groups. For some reason this storage is then

Re: Why can't the track format be changed? (was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-10 Thread Ron Hawkins
Mike, I think that is only true for Iceberg, RVA and SVA. For HDS the VTOC is seen as your data, secure from the storage controllers operating system and the VTOC cannot be opened. EMC, IBM and HDS thin provisioning methods allocate in pages (HDS parlance), so if you write one block on one track