Sounds interesting, Jim. So you just need to emit some SNMP for SolarWinds
(Orion, specifically), correct?
You could take the roll your own approach. There's a fairly good
introduction to SNMP here, to get acquainted:
http://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg27007146
There's also some
Talking of AUTOIPL and sadump, when I tested this, the only way to
see that sadump had finished was when the NIP messages came up on
the real console, indicating sadump was done. That's fine and dandy
when I am expecting an sadump, but what about when the sadump is
taken due to a real
Jim
Your title could be restated as The SNMP Agent supported by z/OS 'feeding' the
SNMP Manager which happens to be supported by SolarWinds.
The point about the title change is that the P in SNMP means protocol and
thus SNMP is designed to support any old IP platform as an SNMP agent and any
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 17:05:45 -0600, Jim Marshall jim.marsh...@opm.gov wrote:
One of our Cyber Security folks is putting up a NOC (Network Operations
Center) and they purchased something called SolarWinds. Now they are on my
doorstep saying they want to scan my system along with DB2 and Oracle
Edward Jaffe has now made the crucial point.
Circumventions of any great need to know much about TRK and CYL issues
are available (and in one form or another have long been available).
That said, the geometry of real DASD was never an intellectually
challenging topic; and I grow ever more weary
The difficulty with the question is that there likely aren't a lot of large
zSeries mainframe-only shops in existence. There are large shops that run large
mainframes, but they likely run other platforms as well and a large part of the
manpower will be shared across platforms.
We have a z/OS
tyvm, Timothy, for your expert analysis.
Please pardon my ignorance, but what is a PCI?
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 2:27 AM, Timothy Sipples timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com
wrote:
George Henke observes:
The feedback I have gotten so far, based on a few private replies, is
about
8 - 12 people per
From what little I understand, the TMP invoked via ADDRESS TSO is like the
batch version of TSO. The batch version of TSO cannot do terminal I/O. And
does not appear, to me, to implement things like terminal interrupts (aka
ATTN'ing out of a command). To do ISPF interactive work via an emulated
The largest MF shop I have worked for supported 10 sysplex, 44 lpars, at
least 20 processors, across 3 continents.
The support staff was (as best I can recall) z/OS and program products
including most vendor software (9), CICS/VTAM/TCPIP (6), IMS/DB2/MQ
(sysprog only) (5)
DBA's and other were
Excluding applications
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 4:18 PM, George Henke gahe...@gmail.com wrote:
I am trying to find out how much staff, numbers and titles, eg z/OS, z/VM,
VTAM/TCPIP, CICS, etc, are needed to run a large zSeries mainframe shop.
Would some of you be so kind as to share that
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size query)
On 2/13/2012 9:38 AM, Joel C.
I've heard of Orion. We have it. We send SNMP traps to it from z/OS using
CA-OPS/MVS. It opens tickets in CA-Unicenter for CA-7 tracked events. We use
CA-GTS (ECHO processor) to write some of the CA-7 messages to the z/OS system
log. CA-OPS/MVS has rules based on these messages which use the
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Jim
Your title could be restated as The SNMP Agent supported by
Hello,
can you pls tell me if doing hbdelete against a tape volume does it forces
a tape mount ???
I need to delete several hsm dsn backups that are in tape volumes, is there
a way to do that avoiding tape mounting ??
Many thx, A.Cecilio.
HBDELETE does not require a tape mount.
BTW, ,HBDELETE deletes a dataset backup, not the tape. This is handled
by other processes.
HTH,
snip
can you pls tell me if doing hbdelete against a tape volume does it
forces
a tape mount ???
/snip
On 2/17/2012 12:57 AM, Edward Jaffe wrote:
On 2/13/2012 9:38 AM, Joel C. Ewing wrote:
Requiring application programmers to think in terms of tracks and cylinders
and to understand interaction between physical block size and track capacity
is indeed archaic, as are artificial restrictions on
On 02/17/12 09:27, af dc wrote:
Hello,
can you pls tell me if doing hbdelete against a tape volume does it forces
a tape mount ???
I need to delete several hsm dsn backups that are in tape volumes, is there
a way to do that avoiding tape mounting ??
Many thx, A.Cecilio.
sorry I meant dataset backup
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.comwrote:
HBDELETE does not require a tape mount.
BTW, ,HBDELETE deletes a dataset backup, not the tape. This is handled
by other processes.
HTH,
snip
can you pls tell me if doing hbdelete
On 2/17/2012 6:32 AM, Steve Comstock wrote:
On 2/17/2012 12:57 AM, Edward Jaffe wrote:
TRKs and CYLs? Most of our allocations are in MEGs. Doesn't everyone do that
these days?
SPACE=(1,(5,1),RLSE),AVGREC=M Allocate in MEGs
I would have thought allocations in records or thousands of
Guys,
Me too, never even thought of megabytes until the pc slam dunk artists came
along, everyone I knew calculated their file size in tracks or cyls. As someone
tod me new world orderlol
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On Feb 17, 2012, at 9:32
and how about ML2 dsns??? If i do HRECALL against MIGRAT2 volume ??? is
there a way of just invalid the entry in MCDS avoiding tape mounting ??
A.Cecilio.
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 2:57 PM, af dc acbi...@gmail.com wrote:
sorry I meant dataset backup
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Staller,
On 02/17/12 10:05, af dc wrote:
and how about ML2 dsns??? If i do HRECALL against MIGRAT2 volume ??? is
there a way of just invalid the entry in MCDS avoiding tape mounting ??
A.Cecilio.
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 2:57 PM, af dcacbi...@gmail.com wrote:
The HDEL command does that trick
HDELETE
snip
and how about ML2 dsns??? If i do HRECALL against MIGRAT2 volume ??? is
there a way of just invalid the entry in MCDS avoiding tape mounting ??
/snip
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tyvm, Timothy, for your expert analysis.
Please pardon my ignorance, but what is a PCI?
PCI has to do with Payments for Credit Cards and their security.
The PCI Security Standards Council offers robust and comprehensive standards
and supporting materials to enhance payment card data
PCI:
_P_ersonal
_C_ard
_I_ndustry
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Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 10:32 AM
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Subject: Re: zSeries Manpower Sizing
tyvm, Timothy, for your expert
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 09:59:13 -0500, Scott Ford wrote:
Me too, never even thought of megabytes until the pc slam dunk artists came
along, everyone I knew calculated their file size in tracks or cyls. As
someone tod me new world orderlol
I would have expected that during technology
Yep that's the way I have always experienced the work environment. Worked on a
10 way they had 60 ppl supporting it but the environment was huge to support ..
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On Feb 17, 2012, at 8:23 AM, van der Grijn, Bart (B)
Watch the context
https://www-304.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/lib03060.nsf/pages/lsprzOS19MIOct2008?OpenDocumentpathID=#Toc7
PCI stands for Processor capacity Index
2064-116 has 2882 PCI and 441 MSU.
PCI stands for many other meanings, including IT ones (Peripheral
Commponent Interconnect).
Tyvm Lizette didn't know what it was either. I have a ton of banking customers,
you just made me a tad smarter...Ty
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On Feb 17, 2012, at 10:32 AM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote:
tyvm, Timothy, for
Gil,
Worked with a math phd for a bunch of yrs and he preached records for
allocations, not cyls or tracks. I guess everyone has an opinion...
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On Feb 17, 2012, at 10:41 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:
Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote in message
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On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 09:59:13 -0500, Scott Ford wrote:
Me too, never even thought of megabytes until the pc slam dunk
artists came along, everyone I knew calculated their file size
PCI - Processor Capacity Index - First calculated/Introduced with the z/OS V1R9
LSPR(Large Systems Performance Reference).
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To:
I think you really mean _P_ Payment Card Industry
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Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 09:41
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PCI:
_P_ersonal
_C_ard
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 23:57:44 -0800, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com
wrote:
On 2/13/2012 9:38 AM, Joel C. Ewing wrote:
Requiring application programmers to think in terms of tracks and cylinders
and to understand interaction between physical block size and track capacity
is indeed
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:39:03 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote:
Although it is a crude and inaccurate conversion, one could use M instead of
CYL basically
1:1 and would be sure to get enough space since 1M is about 1.42 CYLs. If I
did that at
least I could picture it in my head the same way I have
Paul Gilmartin's:
begin snippet
It would seem to me that when the time came to convert from 3330 to
3350 (e.g.), the simple path would have been to replace TRK with
13030 (CYL slightly more complicated) and leave the other numbers
unchanged. JCL so modified would work on either model during the
I think you're right. It was introduced to me the other way by someone who got
it wrong, and I've had a mental block about it ever since. Thank you for the
correction.
--Phil Sevetson
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In
CAPD5F5oS=2wrluhxwtpjbcjbx8v0m9-nymvcfyjpbzket9u...@mail.gmail.com,
on 02/16/2012
at 11:45 AM, John Gilmore johnwgilmore0...@gmail.com said:
The original System/360 scheme was simple and in its way elegant.
01F---decodable unambiguously into (multiplexor) channel 0, control
unit 1, and that
tyvm, both Radoslaw again and Jihad.
I had Wikied it but all I got back was Payment Card Industry, not even
Peripheral Component Interconnect. And that did not fit the context, as
Radoslaw noted.
Maybe you would like to update Wiki.
Now all I need to know is how PCI translates into MIPS and
'PCI' does not have a single, definitive interpretation.
It is yet another overloaded acronym, one that, for sysprogs, often
means 'Program-Controlled Interrupt'.
On 2/17/12, George Henke gahe...@gmail.com wrote:
tyvm, both Radoslaw again and Jihad.
I had Wikied it but all I got back was
Wiki did not have that one either, just Payment Card Industry.
Maybe someone will care to update Wiki for posterity.
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 2:04 PM, John Gilmore johnwgilmore0...@gmail.comwrote:
'PCI' does not have a single, definitive interpretation.
It is yet another overloaded acronym,
W dniu 2012-02-17 19:46, George Henke pisze:
tyvm, both Radoslaw again and Jihad.
I had Wikied it but all I got back was Payment Card Industry, not even
Peripheral Component Interconnect. And that did not fit the context, as
Radoslaw noted.
Maybe you would like to update Wiki.
Now all I need
George,
If you follow this Link:
https://www-304.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/lib03060.nsf/pages/lsprzOS11MIJuly2010?OpenDocumentpathID=
It will give you a table in which you will see PCI values and their MSU
equivalent for all Supported zSeries processors. At the top of the Web page
there is a
Wow, imagine running a PCI application on USS. ;-)
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W dniu 2012-02-17 19:46,
On 16 February 2012 19:32, Walt Farrell wfarr...@us.ibm.com wrote:
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 14:42:01 -0700, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com
wrote:
OK, just being a little crazy, what about EXEC PGM=MYASMPGM
which does some stuff and then does XCTL to the TMP? Would
that work?
The last
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What i usually do, is once I get the file created, is to set the
allocation to 10% more than the file size and secondary extents to 10%
of the file size.
First time around, CYL,(100,100),RLSE or some SWAG.
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Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all?
If you issue the HDEL command againsts a migrated dataset, the older
backups are deleted and the last backup is usually deleted after 60
days. If that is fast enough, you don't need to issue the HBDELETE
command.
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com wrote:
stars...@mindspring.com (Lizette Koehler) writes:
PCI has to do with Payments for Credit Cards and their security.
PCI was somewhat in response to the cal. state data breach discloser
(and later other states) legislation.
we were tangentially involved being, brought in to help wordsmith
the
MIPs has been around for at least 20 yrs ..PCI not sure...
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On Feb 17, 2012, at 2:30 PM, Tony's Comcast account tbabo...@comcast.net
wrote:
Wow, imagine running a PCI application on USS. ;-)
-Original
From: Robert Payne
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 2:46 PM
To: Fred Hoffman
Subject: RE: Assembler Control of SYSLOG Messages
Looks like DESC code 11 on the WTO macro would work;
DESC=(descriptor code...) Specifies one or more descriptor codes as
decimal numbers in the range 1-16.
Hi,
I know that if a program is re-entrant a subsequent ATTACH will use that
address as the entry point.
How about a non-reentrant program
If I do a ATTACH DISP=NO is the attached program LOADED and if so is there a
way to find the entry point
How many transactions am I going to post today? How many on Monday. What
about Tuesday after a three day weekend? What about Tuesday on a 3 day weekend
4 years from now?
Each transactions is 100 bytes. We save the transactions for a year. We are
a brand new bank that has not yet processed
Variable length records?
From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)
Gil,
Worked with a math phd for a bunch of yrs and he
Hi
Again if I do a attach with disp=no
And r1 has the tcb address I can look at the TCBRBP or relating CDE for the
loadpoint of the module
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On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:46:12 -0800, Frank Swarbrick wrote:
How many transactions am I going to post today? How many on Monday. What
about Tuesday after a three day weekend? What about Tuesday on a 3 day
weekend 4 years from now?
Each transactions is 100 bytes. We save the transactions for
On 2/17/2012 5:21 PM, Micheal Butz wrote:
Again if I do a attach with disp=no And r1 has the tcb
address I can look at the TCBRBP or relating CDE for the
loadpoint of the module
I'm not really sure what you're looking for. The CDE (or LPDE
for an LPA module) points to another CDE (if it's an
If that is not sarcasm than you've hopelessly lost me.
Frank
From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com
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Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)
On Fri, 17 Feb
Frank Swabrick wrote:
begin snippet
| No, I'm not expecting a real answer to that question.
| Just trying to point out why it's hard, to say the least,
| to know how to size files of this type.
/end snippet
The question itself has not been very well formulated.
No one, I hope and suppose, sizes
Gerhard has outlined what is available very well, but you seem to be
confusing load addresses with entry points and to be assuming that
there is/will be only one entry.
One, but only one, of the important uses of aliases is to associate
different aliases with different entries in the same load
But who has the responsibility? This seems something that a system programmer,
with some good analysis tools, should do. Or the system itself should be such
that it can do it's own analysis. After all, is that not what computers are
for?
Frank
From:
Frank,
Your point is well taken. Often no one has the responsibility.
Still, while the system cannot analyze itself, it can include
data-collection machinery that greatly facilitates such analyses; and
this machinery is/should be the responsibility of those who design and
maintain a system
In
77142d37c0c3c34da0d7b1da7d7ca346c...@nwt-s-mbx1.rocketsoftware.com,
on 02/16/2012
at 08:55 PM, Bill Fairchild bfairch...@rocketsoftware.com said:
Seymour is right that we have had subchannel numbers since 1983
instead of device addresses, but we have also had device numbers
since 1983.
In p06240802cb635acf006e@[192.168.1.11], on 02/16/2012
at 08:23 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg hal9...@panix.com said:
No Bill is right.
No.
OS/VS2 Release 2 WAS MVS
But MVS wasn't OS/VS2 Release 2.
like OS/VS2 Release 1 was SVS.
The difference is that SVS was *only* release 1; MVS was *not*
In 0987218410888335.wa.paulgboulderaim@bama.ua.edu, on
02/17/2012
at 11:02 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
It would seem to me that when the time came to convert from 3330 to
3350 (e.g.), the simple path would have been to replace TRK with
13030
That would have left a lot
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea00e924b3...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom,
on 02/16/2012
at 04:14 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said:
CMS and XEDIT can easily bury TSO/ISPF.
While I would love to see an XEDIT port to TSO, ISPF/PDF EDIT does
have a few nice features that XEDIT is
In
84ea18831601b6429e578236ae239b01a4c7eaa...@eagnmnsxmb07.usa.dce.usps.gov,
on 02/15/2012
at 03:03 PM, Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN dave.l.han...@usps.gov
said:
Batch works fine because of the sysin DD:
No, it works fine because you have a leading blank, unlike what your
Rexx code wrote.
In
ec49fd6778df264ba80cde73700a2de0030adbb...@mukpbcc1xmb701c.collab.barclayscorp.com,
on 02/16/2012
at 04:27 PM, Mike Wawiorko mike.wawio...@barclays.com said:
This behaviour
What behavior? The bevior Paul described, or the behavior in your
example? They're not the same.
When the SYSIN DD
In 9289112425599854.wa.maryanne4psugmail@bama.ua.edu, on
02/16/2012
at 06:12 AM, Mary Anne Matyaz maryanne4...@gmail.com said:
Not sure what category a 'bad' file fits into, but I would guess
it's essentially 'omitted'.
That would be broken behavior.
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In
CAGzfoX9OU5QW03nbFr=jpqhgby68bstf0tselydvqaqxf96...@mail.gmail.com,
on 02/16/2012
at 09:00 AM, Alvaro Guirao Lopez alvarogui...@gmail.com said:
Subject: Debug TSO through ISPF panels installation
Don't confuse TSO with ISPF. There are debugging tools for TSO
applications that do not deal
In 3403779024688147.wa.paulgboulderaim@bama.ua.edu, on
02/16/2012
at 06:54 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
Ah, for something like the DIAL command in VM!
Be carefull what you ask for; you might get it, along with operators
who don't grasp the distinctions among RESET,
In
cakxahquoz0tu-yf5i6x4bih7fyavz3_gvkjjtbiguug_pbi...@mail.gmail.com,
on 02/16/2012
at 03:40 PM, Chris Craddock crashlu...@gmail.com said:
Yes, exactly right on both counts. Don't forget that TSO is older
than dirt
It's not as old as CMS, which some of you like. For that matter, EUnix
is
In 1329428012.66311.yahoomail...@web164507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com, on
02/16/2012
at 01:33 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:
but no normal program, even if APF authorized can invoke the TMP.
It wants to run as the job step task, and that's difficult.
In what way is it difficult? What do
In
CAPD5F5rThXaYbF32YgQMXK0bWTtXELh3X+XMOaUnKwPv=tt...@mail.gmail.com,
on 02/17/2012
at 12:50 PM, John Gilmore johnwgilmore0...@gmail.com said:
is not really wrongheaded. It is an unfortunate oversimplification
for real DASD.
Not if you were only discussing conversion of the SPACE parameter.
In 1329430553.61141.yahoomail...@web164510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com, on
02/16/2012
at 02:15 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:
I loved VM/CMS and like Linux really well, close my eyes they are
kissing cousins
?
I don't see any point of similarity. Not the API, not the file system,
not
In
of4541e093.bd5341ba-on882579a5.00838017-882579a5.0083a...@sce.com,
on 02/15/2012
at 03:58 PM, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com said:
I believe that IEBCOPY (and some/all? of the old DFP utilities)
consider anything in column 1 to be a label.
Some, including IEBCOPY, but not all. But
Isn't CICS via VTAM behind many ATMs :)
Dave Gibney
Information Technology Services
Washington State University
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I would have thought that the effect of a dummy, empty or omitted SYSIN
is perfectly well known. Moreover, its shortcut functionality is not limited
to compress operations.
More to the point, a malfunctioning SYSIN dataset is none of the above
and it makes no sense to interpret it as such.
Based on my notes about this from previous posts, an entry in Ikjtsoxx would
allow a Rexx program to call an authorized TSO program, then if necessary it
can use ikjct44 to access any variables.
For example CALL *(MYAUTH) myparms
Lindy
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Really ? The command line vs a GUILinux terminal session and cms virtually
look alike except for the commands..
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On Feb 17, 2012, at 2:16 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:
In
Hi:
Is it possible to dynamically (from a program) determine some of the settings
(or defaults) in SYS1.PARMLIB(ALLOCxx)'? I am interested in determining the SVC
99 defaults.
Thank you.
Paul
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The analyst has to have the numbers for it is he(she) that is
designing the system.
He is supposed to be the giver of the grail.
The real issue is which analyst. There are several different types
business, system and a few others.
The delineation is supposed to be the job description.
The
Bart Grijn writes:
There are large shops that run large mainframes, but they likely run
other platforms as well and a large part of the manpower will be
shared across platforms.
That's an excellent point. There's a common accounting measurement (FTEs =
Full-Time Equivalents) used to tally up
out of all the software mentioned, I did not see anyone noting ISC software.
They do have excellent inventory software, If you were to evaluate I highly
recommend looking in to e-Gen suite. I have no affiliation with them, except as
a user of the software.
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