Re: Anyone a Unicode Services expert? -- roundtrip conversion

2012-06-13 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 00f101cd48c5$195bdba0$4c1392e0$@mcn.org, on 06/12/2012 at 10:59 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said: Fair enough. Unicode services reports however that it supports roundtrip conversion in many of these cases, including for example, 37 to 850 (pretty basic ASCII). 850 is not ASCII; it

Re: installing serverpac for 1.13 using 1.11 system

2012-06-13 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 36dfbe034dc16742b5c491a9caaca...@mail.cenhud.com, on 06/12/2012 at 05:08 PM, Tim Brown tbr...@cenhud.com said: During the serverpac for zos 1.13 I believe there is a step where you mount the new systems root system on the driving system at the /service point. Installing z/OS service in

Re: Anyone a Unicode Services expert? -- roundtrip conversion

2012-06-13 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 93891f43642f3c419a7d75acc2b1db6f3c68cc9...@exchangemb2.dhs.state.ia.us, on 06/12/2012 at 03:38 PM, Roberts, John J jrobe...@dhs.state.ia.us said: Because bijective is not so well understood by anyone born before 1952 or so. I was born before 1952 and understand bijective just fine. OTOH,

Re: Printing DASD type

2012-06-13 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAPikFhFBqJNMj+i9VpKGJcXjNz2RQ=bia95teeznwpmmcb4...@mail.gmail.com, on 06/13/2012 at 10:44 AM, mf db dbajava...@gmail.com said: Any suggestions or advises are much appreciated. Keep in mind that with modern[1] DASD subsystems you can define volumes with nonstandard sizes, e.g., 3390-54. So

Re: Weird thought on misuse of a GDG.

2012-06-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 93891f43642f3c419a7d75acc2b1db6f3c68cc9...@exchangemb2.dhs.state.ia.us, on 06/11/2012 at 02:58 PM, Roberts, John J jrobe...@dhs.state.ia.us said: Also, what is the significance of the V00 part of the qualifier? It's the version. I was always led to believe that it was a vestige of

Re: Convert Text to XMIT

2012-06-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAHTvvRUW4Ts5SsiQ3u=iUr-b_t5Y7S=x0cqxgtcsrr3qfbk...@mail.gmail.com, on 06/11/2012 at 12:10 PM, Jake anderson justmainfra...@gmail.com said: Are there any possibilities of converting TEXT file to XMIT format. What are you asking? If you have a bunch of EBCDIC flat files you can certainly

Re: Beta test announcement - SyzAUTO/z Version 6

2012-06-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 0267875410123666.wa.brianwestermansyzygyinc@listserv.ua.edu, on 06/11/2012 at 12:10 AM, Brian Westerman brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com said: One thing that was pointed out when I asked was that I apparently made it seem like you had to continue to use the SyzAUTO/z product at the end,

Re: Need a PC tape drive to read 3490, 3490E

2012-06-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 3723966600637284.wa.mikecartagena@listserv.ua.edu, on 06/10/2012 at 11:49 AM, Mike Baldwin m...@cartagena.com said: Hello Schmuel, That's Shmuel! Thanks for the chuckle. Note: b, d r is a takeoff on the more common g, d r; barfing instead of grinning. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.)

Re: Dumps to vendors with sensitive data

2012-06-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In of9df4ad7f.3cb3554a-on85257a15.005caa70-85257a15.005d2...@metlife.com, on 06/06/2012 at 12:57 PM, Andy White awh...@metlife.com said: Subject: Dumps to vendors with sensitive data Would something like the old RSVF be an option? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO

Re: Need a PC tape drive to read 3490, 3490E

2012-06-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 9284406812198004.wa.mikecartagena@listserv.ua.edu, on 06/08/2012 at 02:06 PM, Mike Baldwin m...@cartagena.com said: BTW, we also have a desktop SCSI 9-track drive. What, no 7-track? b, d r -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Exclusive ENQ on dataset owned (SHR) by Started Task?

2012-06-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In of94a066f2.f694b706-on85257a16.00400f71-85257a16.00406...@us.ibm.com, on 06/07/2012 at 07:42 AM, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com said: There is a protocol for deleting members that applications such as ISPF use. I'm not positive just what that protocol is, The protocol is to allocate the

Re: Need a PC tape drive to read 3490, 3490E

2012-06-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4fcf76bf.9040...@cbttape.org, on 06/06/2012 at 11:26 AM, Sam Golob sbgo...@cbttape.org said: Does anybody have a suggestion how I can get a tape drive to attach to a PC so that I can read 3490, 3490E tapes, without my having to spend a couple of thousand dollars? There used to be PC

Re: Exclusive ENQ on dataset owned (SHR) by Started Task?

2012-06-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 20051451.1339005548449.javamail.r...@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net, on 06/06/2012 at 10:59 AM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com said: At R1.13 z/OS you can use the DEL 'MYDSN(member)' in rexx. Nothing new there, but won't it allocate with OLD? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.)

Re: JES/2 Proc SYSIN Concat Error??

2012-06-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 029601cd4400$477d3890$d677a9b0$@mcn.org, on 06/06/2012 at 09:20 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said: //REFFING DD DDNAME=REFFED that REFFED could be any valid DD statement. It can, but the results are not what you want. But it appears that what they are saying is that the following

Re: LE COBOL odd behavior

2012-06-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5ffa8470-9de8-4aad-b7a5-1bb653cec...@yahoo.com, on 06/05/2012 at 11:09 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said: No yucks please, a Display or Write to Sysprint takes a long time , in one case I cancelled a STC and the output was in sysprint, but under ISPs, sdf , not there at all. Just

Re: JES/2 Proc SYSIN Concat Error??

2012-06-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 6895942586577638.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 06/06/2012 at 10:12 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: Was this truly the intent of the design, or did it just happen to work that way, so they documented it as a feature? That would be my guess. Then they added the

Re: Need a PC tape drive to read 3490, 3490E

2012-06-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1339083804.4053.yahoomail...@web164506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com, on 06/07/2012 at 08:43 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said: I worked MVS at that time on a PC390 ...we had a 3800 and tape drives and a 3174 attached to it. Also BAR/RJE supported tape drives and of course various printers

Re: Consoles New options

2012-06-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CALuePdiAsQ8JSQXspkGn=eDioy1wgRn_eD=wn9uq+_nwu-z...@mail.gmail.com, on 06/06/2012 at 11:09 AM, Matan Cohen matancohen...@gmail.com said: I checked out the CONTROL command in the manuals and couldn't found how can i control this display in meaning of scrolling \ deletion of this mesages

Re: Consoles New options

2012-06-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CALuePdgCV9MFAWLsu3LqWWSLGwRmCtpbZnCmqG=edy4mn3c...@mail.gmail.com, on 06/05/2012 at 09:56 AM, Matan Cohen matancohen...@gmail.com said: I notice that since z/OS 1.10 (maybe even from an earlier releases) the Consoles was a little bit diffrent. While there have been several major

Re: JES/2 Proc SYSIN Concat Error??

2012-06-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In of4c5d492a.3aca1a06-on86257a14.0070c48f-86257a14.00717...@ameritas.com, on 06/05/2012 at 03:39 PM, Chip Grantham cgrant...@ameritas.com said: Subject: JES/2 Proc SYSIN Concat Error?? It has nothing to do with JES2. I only receive the DD * data in SYSUT2, not the copied ISCLG.JCL(SHOWIT)

Re: JES/2 Proc SYSIN Concat Error??

2012-06-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 45e5f2f45d7878458ee5ca679697335502e25...@usdaexch01.kbm1.loc, on 06/05/2012 at 03:56 PM, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com said: Nothing in the provided example would cause the SHOWIT proc to be displayed. Wrong; in the example, the first statement following the proc invocation is the

Re: JES/2 Proc SYSIN Concat Error??

2012-06-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In of9eba9e71.2f31f32c-on86257a14.0073e9da-86257a14.00753...@ameritas.com, on 06/05/2012 at 04:20 PM, Chip Grantham cgrant...@ameritas.com said: Is it just me, or does this seem like I'm expected to interrupt the message to be, we know this isn't what you expect and we might even consider it

Re: How to suppress Message in REXX App

2012-06-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In ca8c18ec-4ae1-4914-a0a8-4bbe66c8b...@yahoo.com, on 06/01/2012 at 04:37 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said: TPut will go to sysprint or systsprt No. PUTLINE in batch will go to SYSTSPRT, but not TPUT. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: How to suppress Message in REXX App

2012-06-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAOdPEgRBghL+Cqd4qZryi2rYXVaUFY=9e-ugencg8mphj93...@mail.gmail.com, on 06/02/2012 at 12:02 PM, Itschak Mugzach imugz...@gmail.com said: Did you try REXX OUTTRAP function? OUTTRAP catches PUTLINE and PUTGET, not TPUT. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position;

Re: How to suppress Message in REXX App

2012-06-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In of63181427.639c251c-on88257a10.0079ec67-88257a10.007a3...@sce.com, on 06/01/2012 at 03:14 PM, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com said: TPUT is an SVC that cannot be intercepted by TSO and therefore cannot be suppressed by TSO. Actually, it can be intercepted, and the TSO Session

Re: How to suppress Message in REXX App

2012-06-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 026801cd4015$ba6e3cd0$2f4ab670$@mindspring.com, on 06/01/2012 at 09:43 AM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com said: Does anyone know if this message can be suppressed from a TSO session? IF so, suggestions? Run under Session Manager? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and

Re: Allocation mystery

2012-06-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4fc7e1b0.6070...@trainersfriend.com, on 05/31/2012 at 03:25 PM, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com said: I'm finding an unexpected allocation situation that maybe someone can explain. Are all of your datasets supposed to be SMS managed? If so, there is an ACS issue. If not, it has

Re: ISV software costs based on MIPS

2012-05-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1e7a8b5a967dfb42b888c2c05cfe0f5b047...@mmoex10mbs03.jhacorp.com, on 05/30/2012 at 03:26 PM, Hal Merritt hmerr...@jackhenry.com said: No ISV wants a pricing strategy that potentially reduces income. Does that include a pricing policy that gives customers an incentive to switch to a

Re: Can DFSORT do pattern matching?

2012-05-31 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In cahm_n2nfskfvqo2nb+se74rznbpvkzq+rtzk23tthcbcn2e...@mail.gmail.com, on 05/30/2012 at 03:57 PM, Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com said: Also, one could always use the POSIX-compatible POSIX defines RE and BRE, which are very different. Do those routines implement Perl-style regular expressions?

Re: DFSMS SG POOL Enablement

2012-05-30 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 836D8BCB7AC04F9B822D1FE06E18F6E9@barryf93b83d71, on 05/29/2012 at 11:24 AM, retired mainframer retired-mainfra...@q.com said: The simplest way to activate an SCDS in batch is to submit a step that issues the SETSMS SCDS operator command. It can be done by JCL, various CBT utilities, or a

Re: Can DFSORT do pattern matching?

2012-05-30 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In cak6gkd3evkgu6kxu-m3f5+lpt6qlvyut2uhrokxid9l-fog...@mail.gmail.com, on 05/30/2012 at 07:37 AM, (N agesh S) nageshbl...@gmail.com said: What would be cool is a regex pattern engine that DFSORT can invoke. So, once the tiny detail of invoking the Java class Why use a Java class. Surely

Re: JES2 default OUTCLASS

2012-05-30 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4fc527a4.1030...@bremultibank.com.pl, on 05/29/2012 at 09:46 PM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl said: In that case default CLASS is used - and I found the default in JES2PARM. Also some default OUTCLASS (MSGCLASS? sorry for eventual misnaming) is used for JES* datasets and SYSOUT's.

Re: JES2 using old version of procedure

2012-05-30 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In c11ded818b17214792b97fba28712bed148edca...@jer-email1.jer.ad.malam.com, on 05/30/2012 at 02:40 PM, gad...@malam.com said: We are using JES2 dynamic PROCLIB. You're not running with the correct proclib concatenations. Examine your JES2 JCL and parameters, then check each proclib PDS for

Re: How to leave ISPF

2012-05-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4f439d1e-1523-49ed-815c-6fa3dcd87...@comcast.net, on 05/27/2012 at 10:36 AM, Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net said: I think that was because that way back when IBM had a TSO product called PCF. If memory serves me one of the feature that PCF offered was to be able to stack commands and

Re: How to leave ISPF

2012-05-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 0898286174563950.wa.markmzelden@bama.ua.edu, on 05/25/2012 at 06:44 PM, Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com said: I don't know. But when used the way I described, you are in TSO READY from the =x;;x prior to the field mark, so it is SO at that point, not ISPF. No, you are not at the READY

Re: Early IPL problems

2012-05-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4fbe7bb5.3060...@valley.net, on 05/24/2012 at 02:19 PM, Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net said: You used the PASSWORD facility to protect critical data sets. In order to update them, it was necessary to respond to a WTOR with the password. Don't forget my local mods to OPEN, which

Re: IKJTSOEV ISPF services question

2012-05-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea00e924b4...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom, on 05/25/2012 at 07:44 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said: I know that I can run the TSO TMP in batch. Using this, I can run a REXX program which sets up all the ISPF required datasets. I can then invoke

Re: How to leave ISPF

2012-05-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 8947834608329895.wa.markmzelden@bama.ua.edu, on 05/25/2012 at 10:04 AM, Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com said: This part wasn't answered. You need to use the field mark key (x'1E'). Does ISPF treat it the same way that TSO does? I thought that it was just another character except for TSO

Re: IKJTSOEV ISPF services question

2012-05-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea00e924b4...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom, on 05/25/2012 at 10:23 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said: From my view point, it is because the user of my program simply does EXEC PGM=MYPGM rather than PGM=IKJEFT01,PARM='%MYPGM' which runs a, in my case,

Re: Snap dump question

2012-05-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1337974360.45500.yahoomail...@web164501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com, on 05/25/2012 at 12:32 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said: I have a program that uses a dsect To describe what? Please show the code that acquires the storage and establishes addressability. L

Re: IKJTSOEV ISPF services question

2012-05-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1356750482717750.wa.paulgboulderaim@bama.ua.edu, on 05/25/2012 at 08:54 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: (This might be more on-charter for ISPF-L.) Anything on-topic for ISPF-L is on topic here. However, if there are any ISPF gurus who don't subscribe to IBM-MAIN then it

Re: Rexx - calling assembler question

2012-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 3493325860710629.wa.paulgboulderaim@bama.ua.edu, on 05/21/2012 at 07:44 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: Well, then, a CMS-Rexx flavor, with a pointer and a length. No, that's not what CMS uses. You don't want to know. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT

Re: IBMLink outages in 2012

2012-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In d9a38e3a-ca51-4033-be46-9d37265ee...@comcast.net, on 05/21/2012 at 11:24 PM, Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net said: I vaguely remember an IBM product (INFO-MVS) which was (if memory serves me) was a single (??) reel 6250 tape sent monthly by IBM. INFO-MVS was another product in the same

Re: Early IPL problems

2012-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4fbadd3e.5050...@valley.net, on 05/21/2012 at 08:26 PM, Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net said: You also used this to reply to password requests for system data sets having all hex-zero passwords. I don't recall[1] having done so. If you can explain How I forgot, I'd like to try the

Re: XPLINK Modules in SCEERUN2

2012-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4fbba8e9.9030...@custserv.com, on 05/22/2012 at 10:55 AM, Mark Jacobs mark.jac...@custserv.com said: From the Ported Tools - OpenSSH Manual Ouch! * Put the Language Environment® run-time library SCEERUN2 in the LNKLST member of SYS1.PARMLIB. Does anybody still use that?

Re: IBM's first tape drive turns 60 (makes you feel old!)

2012-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAPD5F5qqQjHo2ntfWXUSP-GELMe=b1szP=4v5pm68-e1-1y...@mail.gmail.com, on 05/22/2012 at 10:22 AM, John Gilmore johnwgilmore0...@gmail.com said: One-inch tapes were once very common in IBM shops, Common? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: IBM's first tape drive turns 60 (makes you feel old!)

2012-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 985915eee6984740ae93f8495c624c6c21e3656...@jscpcwexmaa1.bsg.ad.adp.com, on 05/22/2012 at 09:03 AM, Farley, Peter x23353 peter.far...@broadridge.com said: I don't know about IBM, but there was a 2nd generation Philco computer system I know about it, but I've never met anybody that used one.

Re: IBM's first tape drive turns 60 (makes you feel old!)

2012-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4fbb73d4.9090...@bremultibank.com.pl, on 05/22/2012 at 01:09 PM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl said: BTW: I heard about 1-inch tapes. Is it true? Did such wide tapes exist? Yes. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: 24/7/365 appropriateness was Re: IBMLink outages in 2012

2012-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In fkjpr71k9aqo209gi143h9g9hnuq125...@4ax.com, on 05/23/2012 at 08:54 AM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca said: On a logical basis I agree with you but has the 24/7/365 shortcut for continuous availability become so pervasive that it is the shorthand way for saying it Shorthand? How

Re: Comparison of compiler generated code AD 1980(ish) v 2010(ish)

2012-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4fbd69b6.5080...@t-online.de, on 05/24/2012 at 12:50 AM, Bernd Oppolzer bernd.oppol...@t-online.de said: This limit is too high, in our opinion, because some tests showed, On what processor? I assume that IBM wants to optimize for a196 and later. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,

Re: IBMLink outages in 2012

2012-05-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In hj3lr7lassfuf88ovoeg000i1pp935e...@4ax.com, on 05/21/2012 at 03:51 PM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca said: I'm the last to see my own errors. Hopefully it was obvious I meant 24/7/365 That's no better. Either 24/7/52 or 24/365 would be approximately correct. -- Shmuel

Re: Early IPL problems

2012-05-21 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea00e924b4...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom, on 05/20/2012 at 12:07 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said: I vaguely remember having a 1403 as a console for NIP messages long ago. While it was popssible to use a card reader and printer as a console, and

Re: Rexx - calling assembler question

2012-05-21 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 6426001600524474.wa.paulgboulderaim@bama.ua.edu, on 05/21/2012 at 12:15 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: Those generate parameter lists with a distinct CMS flavor. Not even close; 8 character tokenization is mickey mouse. The PLIST has a distinct REXX flavor. If you want

Re: Rexx - calling assembler question

2012-05-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1337355369.63700.yahoomail...@web164504.mail.gq1.yahoo.com, on 05/18/2012 at 08:36 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said: I assumed I misunderstand how parameters are passed in Rexx to Assembler That depends on what environment you specify. However, in all cases the save area chaining

Re: Early IPL problems

2012-05-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In D39079588512418AAAFA4139AA527226@MAINWS, on 05/18/2012 at 12:54 PM, Doug Fuerst d...@bkassociates.net said: Are we saying that we cannot look at the current PSW, get the WSC, and look it up? No, she's saying that she can't get to the associated messages. I've been looking at WSC's since

Re: Early IPL problems

2012-05-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4fb69a54.7050...@phoenixsoftware.com, on 05/18/2012 at 11:52 AM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com said: Seriously, I remember OS/2 had a similar issue. Before you could write down the information about a catastrophic trap, it would restart and blow away the screen. There was a

Re: Co-existance of z/OS and z/VM on same DASD farm

2012-05-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1696751327392196.wa.ronmacraehotmail.co...@bama.ua.edu, on 05/16/2012 at 03:03 PM, Ron MacRae ronmac...@hotmail.co.uk said: The reason I'm worried is that in a previous life, over 30 years ago, my previous company attempted to do the same between an VM system and a DOS/VSE system. This

Re: Syslog/Operlog Read Access

2012-05-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4fb4f80e.30...@custserv.com, on 05/17/2012 at 09:07 AM, Mark Jacobs mark.jac...@custserv.com said: Is it a consensus best practice to restrict read access of syslog/operlog data to those people with a need-to-know, Pretty much anybody running jobs has a need to know what their jobs put in

Re: ### of GDG Entries

2012-05-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea00e924b4...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom, on 05/14/2012 at 10:34 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said: About as smoothly as a Baja race. I don't know anything about Baja races, but I assume from your comment that they're painful. I still have scars.

Re: CSVEDIT using COBOL

2012-05-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4fb145d3.7090...@valley.net, on 05/14/2012 at 01:50 PM, Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net said: However, for INTRDR the class is ignored. No; it becomes the default MSGCLASS. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Is having an OMVS segment on a userid with RACF SPECIAL an issue?

2012-05-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4fb1f921.8020...@bremultibank.com.pl, on 05/15/2012 at 08:35 AM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl said: IMHO the are two secure choices: 1. NOOMVS for SPECIAL 2. UID(0) for SPECIAL. Boggle! -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Syslog missing

2012-05-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4fb286ac.8030...@bremultibank.com.pl, on 05/15/2012 at 06:39 PM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl said: I just noticed that syslog is dead. Maybe, and maybe not. Any clue? Yes; query the status of HAEDCPY, OPERLOG and SYSLOG. Then examine your SDSF, taking the query results into

Re: Retiring after 43+ years with IBM

2012-05-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In ofe777ba8d.c16c141f-on88257a00.00055df6-88257a00.00058...@us.ibm.com, on 05/15/2012 at 06:00 PM, Frank Yaeger yae...@us.ibm.com said: Just a note to let everyone know I'll be retiring at the end of this month (5/31/2012). Well, you've earned it, but we'll miss you. May you enjoy your

Re: IEW4005I FETCH FOR MODULE Failed

2012-05-14 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4fae654f.9070...@acm.org, on 05/12/2012 at 08:27 AM, Joel C. Ewing jcew...@acm.org said: These mods haven't actually been distributed as a mainframe tape for years, AFAIK you can still download an AWS image of the CBT tape. I admit that I find it more convenient to only download the files

Re: ### of GDG Entries

2012-05-14 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1336770284.12924.20.camel@localhost, on 05/11/2012 at 05:04 PM, David Andrews d...@lists.duda.com said: So expanding the max number of generations much past 255 is problematic with the current key design. I guess IBM could walk in a new catalog format (by e.g. allowing more than one GDS

Re: IEW4005I FETCH FOR MODULE Failed

2012-05-14 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4fae02e5.8020...@unifi.my, on 05/12/2012 at 02:27 PM, Lim Ming Liang limm...@unifi.my said: Pardon my ignorance, where can I get this Mods Tape http://www.cbttape.org -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html

Re: ### of GDG Entries

2012-05-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 9a5727782f43d643b484c4d0dca637a303610...@dfle30.ent.ti.com, on 05/10/2012 at 08:12 PM, Donnelly, John john.p.donne...@ti.com said: We have a business application that creates literally 100s of GDGs a day; ITYM 100's of GDS's a day in the same GDG. Is there any way to create or pretend to

Re: Comments on DFSMS verbose messages?

2012-05-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 3058465022590439.wa.wkkelleyoptonline@bama.ua.edu, on 05/10/2012 at 08:28 PM, W. Kevin Kelley wkkel...@optonline.net said: Based on the feedback that we had received from the ESP customers, the comments that I have received here were a surprise; I had expected the comments to have gone

Re: Modern users of old tech

2012-05-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea00e924b4...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom, on 05/10/2012 at 07:25 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said: Interesting. A company in Texas still using an IBM 402 tab machine is an example. Masochism? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT

Re: Get JES[2|3] Output from a job with REXX

2012-05-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAHtJz9KzdR7+oFtC0TH6Q8TUh9fo=WH5X0=auex7xysab+n...@mail.gmail.com, on 05/09/2012 at 11:56 AM, Wayne Bickerdike wayn...@gmail.com said: How about the old OUTPUT command. The OP asked for complete job output. The TSO OUTPUT command won't give him that unless some fairly stringent conditions

Re: Comments on DFSMS verbose messages?

2012-05-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea00e924b4...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom, on 05/08/2012 at 12:05 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said: Sort of. ? It does not set the AMODE of the currently executing program, true. Nor does it change the AMODE of the loaded program to that of the

Re: Comments on DFSMS verbose messages?

2012-05-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4fa956bd.6000...@trainersfriend.com, on 05/08/2012 at 11:24 AM, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com said: But if the AMODE of the loaded module is any, then the returned amode bits (in GPR0) are based on the AMODE of the invoker. True, but *not* the bits in the CDE. -- Shmuel

Re: Get JES[2|3] Output from a job with REXX

2012-05-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 8a81d0a4c19b63498a8ef2105fe185364bc63...@dc01.zit-consulting.local, on 05/08/2012 at 12:28 PM, Uwe Oswald uwe.osw...@zit-consulting.com said: after asked Google for several hours but haven't found anything really useful. Is it possible to use REXX to get a complete (!) job output incl.

Re: Kerneels ( was RE: It's feeding time in Jurassic Park . . .)

2012-05-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 3ebf9c9d119fd847b3a096c515a018f6947ea...@surfsdvmp35.cnasurety.net, on 05/07/2012 at 02:50 PM, Pommier, Rex R. rex.pomm...@cnasurety.com said: And they both hated Fox channel with a passion, That's reasonable. and both bring their hatred into completely unrelated topics That's not. But

Re: Comments on DFSMS verbose messages?

2012-05-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4fa7ede9.2060...@trainersfriend.com, on 05/07/2012 at 09:44 AM, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com said: LOAD is a system service; it will set the bits to the AMODE of the program issuing the service call. Are you sure? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO

Re: Multiple waiting tasks, one control block?

2012-05-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In p06240802cbcce7984fc4@[192.168.1.11], on 05/06/2012 at 11:12 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg hal9...@panix.com said: You start with an EXC ENQ with the resource not yet Available. Once it is available, you DEQ. Everyone who wants the resource ?does a SHR ENQ (and will fire off when the DEQ is

Re: Comments on DFSMS verbose messages?

2012-05-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In of94172e54.f408defa-on852579f5.00781b99-852579f5.00789...@us.ibm.com, on 05/05/2012 at 05:56 PM, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com said: Tongue in cheek: sorry for not being prescient enough in (approximately) 1977 to think that someone might ever need 64-bits worth of addressability. You

Re: Old timer question

2012-05-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In ofabcc78f4.0c2304b8-on882579f4.007133c2-882579f4.0071e...@ucdmc.ucdavis.edu, on 05/04/2012 at 01:44 PM, John Norgauer john.norga...@ucdmc.ucdavis.edu said: I wanted to re-block the dataset for obvious reasons. I thought that 13300 blksize would work but DFP did not like that size. Did you

Re: Comments on DFSMS verbose messages?

2012-05-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5625217423916820.wa.wkkelleyoptonline@bama.ua.edu, on 05/03/2012 at 08:46 PM, W. Kevin Kelley wkkel...@optonline.net said: Any comments/criticisms/suggestions? Suggestion: allow .MSGOPTION to enable writing the verbose message lines to SYSLOG/OPERLOG. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.)

Re: 1.12 1.13 JES2 toleration PTF APPLY problem

2012-05-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4fa11550.2070...@isis-papyrus.com, on 05/02/2012 at 01:06 PM, Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com said: O.k now, but how can I copy an FMID from one target to another ? Why? That's rarely the right thing to do. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO

Re: 1.12 1.13 JES2 toleration PTF APPLY problem

2012-05-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4fa0f6ff.2070...@isis-papyrus.com, on 05/02/2012 at 10:57 AM, Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com said: I have received the UA59435 JES2 toleration PTF Typically there's more than one, and you must install the one that is appropriate for your system. IBM normally publishes

Re: Programming languages can't have copyright protection, EU court rules

2012-05-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 14d901cd2887$312cfba0$9386f2e0$@mcn.org, on 05/02/2012 at 10:15 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said: Patents are very hard to get Would that that were true. USPTO fails to exclude patents that should be invalid due to, e.g., prior art. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and

Re: STCBSST bit of STCBFLG1 of STCB DSECT

2012-05-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 6694875548510117.wa.jbendichaustin.rr@bama.ua.edu, on 05/02/2012 at 09:47 PM, Justin R. Bendich jbend...@austin.rr.com said: 1. JES2 starts the job-step in key 8. No. JES2 is not involves. It is the Initiator that attaches the j/s task. 5. ATTACH a JOBSTEP task. With it's own

Re: XML Parsing

2012-05-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 3517508545128059.wa.ron5174gmail@bama.ua.edu, on 04/30/2012 at 12:13 PM, Ron Thomas ron5...@gmail.com said: We have XML file that is send by the customer, we need to alter the XML file and send it back to 3'rd party . Use XSLT or a similar tool. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,

Re: Strip column 1 from reports

2012-05-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5877212518161987.wa.paulgboulderaim@bama.ua.edu, on 04/30/2012 at 09:11 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: In the wider perspective, ASA carriage control was originally a form of presentational markup targeted at a class of output devices, impact printers, then preponderant,

Re: Strip column 1 from reports

2012-05-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5035871363212215.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@bama.ua.edu, on 04/30/2012 at 11:27 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za said: Any greybeards remembering this 3800 toy? ;-D Greybeards? The 3800 is the new printer, replacing the Nancy one and the faster 3211. --

Re: ServerPac RACF* jobs (rant)

2012-05-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4f9f2053.8040...@bremultibank.com.pl, on 05/01/2012 at 01:29 AM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl said: No, I'm not going to submit neither PMR nor enhancement requirement. Then why should anybody at IBM take your whining seriously? IBM bureaucracy is really good inhibitor. Last, but

Re: z/OS under z/VM was zOS under zVM

2012-05-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 57bd3bf9a8a03b4f9867ccbebbc7deaa04bd3...@tmpexchmb06.enterprise.corpad.timeinc.com, on 05/01/2012 at 01:04 PM, Mark Jacobs mark.jac...@custserv.com said: It's been many, many years since we've run our sysplex under zVM. Our next DR exercise will be hosted in a VM environment and I'm

Re: Explination of S0C4 reason code 4 and related data areas

2012-04-27 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In m3obqemtv0@garlic.com, on 04/26/2012 at 10:48 AM, Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com said: page transfers/io is done with channel programs which have real addresses. On most machines in the family, but DOS/VSE running with ECPS:VSE used virtual addresses in channel programs. --

Re: DSN MYSTERY - CURRENT UTILIZATION GREATER THAN CURRENT ALLOCATION.

2012-04-27 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 0de6a9840123e547b061ac5b6765c02647a...@exmb-05.ad.wsu.edu, on 04/26/2012 at 08:48 PM, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu said: What level of z/OS? I vaguely remember when ISPF hadn't caught up with newer PS formats. Does anybody know whether it ever worked? My guess is that it's an old bug that

Re: GO TO cobol

2012-04-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4f959964.2060...@phoenixsoftware.com, on 04/23/2012 at 11:03 AM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com said: http://proceedings.share.org/client_files/SHARE_in_San_Jose/S8133EJ131525.pdf A few comments: 1. Most of the macro instructions the paper mentions come with the HLA

Re: ZOS 1.13 SMPTABL Mystery

2012-04-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5616521949719829.wa.m42tomibmmainyahoo@bama.ua.edu, on 04/26/2012 at 07:10 AM, Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com said: The state information that is stored in SMPTABL is not the state of SYSMODs. It is the state of the Sysmod Management dialog. I understand that; it is precisely

Re: Explination of S0C4 reason code 4 and related data areas

2012-04-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In d5php7p6gadkvajvc7aqj71l5ur517p...@4ax.com, on 04/26/2012 at 09:01 AM, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com said: Its invalid because its invalid. Got it. Thanks. This is a case where I prefer the Burroughs notation; they called the equivalent flag the presence bit, which is more

Re: A z/OS Redbook Corrected - just about!

2012-04-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4f96b993.2020...@phoenixsoftware.com, on 04/24/2012 at 07:32 AM, Jim Phoenix jimphoe...@phoenixsoftware.com said: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: IBM maintains a list of official acronyms and Unix system Services is not in that list. OpenEdition MVS See UNIX System Services. http://www

Re: A z/OS Redbook Corrected - just about!

2012-04-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 481781196635.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@bama.ua.edu, on 04/24/2012 at 12:06 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za said: Aw cr*p, hehehe ( :-D ) , there are at least two ( 2 ) definitions of USS shown there. FSVO two twice as large as the standard value. --

Re: A z/OS Redbook Corrected - just about!

2012-04-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4f97116c.2060...@bremultibank.com.pl, on 04/24/2012 at 10:47 PM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl said: They don't care. Don't be a hypocrite. You obviously care enough to jump in when anyone posts a correction. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position;

Re: ZOS 1.13 SMPTABL Mystery

2012-04-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4f96b36c.3000...@acm.org, on 04/24/2012 at 09:06 AM, Joel C. Ewing jcew...@acm.org said: SMP/E dialogs do not work that way. Users do not share the same variables directly, they share the same list of named maintenance projects Is that a new function? I don't recall ever seeing named

Re: Explination of S0C4 reason code 4 and related data areas

2012-04-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAArMM9Rgbww-g1LRnqXkKL44H=s9e9vsg-0b+a+o-os0rkj...@mail.gmail.com, on 04/24/2012 at 02:57 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said: However exceptions that occur because of low storage or page protection are certainly protection exceptions, Indeed, as are access-list violations. --

Re: EXTRACT,QEDIT macro

2012-04-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In caarmm9tpp6lmqp-gyutyyvt7pyiqkfgws3ycuglm7zdmy9q...@mail.gmail.com, on 04/23/2012 at 06:25 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said: I believe you asked and received answers to the same question on Feb 10 of this year. To repeat, there is only one CIB and communications ECB per address

Re: Explination of S0C4 reason code 4 and related data areas

2012-04-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 2aadp75utk3rndje61uiscu5ocln0lt...@4ax.com, on 04/24/2012 at 04:23 PM, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com said: If the invalid page can be paged-in, in what way is it invalid? The page-invalid bit is one, per PoOps. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO

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