I know I'm coming in kinda late to this ... my apologies ... i don't
read this list as often as I'd like ...
but ... I thought the OS was still MVS ... and z/OS was a package that
included MVS and a bunch of components (DFSMShsm, RACF, etc.) ...
--Stephen
On 08/26/2011 11:43 AM, Phil
On 05/18/2011 03:39 PM, Shane Ginnane wrote:
This being the site that a couple of years ago was 20 years into its 5 year
plan to get off the mainframe ?.
Pity to see another one (finally) bite the dust.
yup ... that's us ... we're now in year 23 of our 5-year plan to migrate
off of the
in 2 months ... but
doesn't look like we're going to make it).
Thank you for any help you can provide.
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And that's one of the biggest reasons that my management is willing to
spend a lot of money migrating everything we have off of the mainframe ...
But Corporate America is going to get a rude awaking when us 'dinosaurs' call
it
quits.these 30+ yr olds dont want to know about z/OS and
On 04/04/2011 10:31 AM, McKown, John wrote:
We own too much historical data and processing. The cost to convert our VSAM
files to MS SQL files, convert the current CICS transactions and batch
programs to something runnable on Windows, and the cost to convert the batch
processes (JCL) has a
On 12/30/2010 03:25 AM, Timothy Sipples wrote:
2. If you are a qualified business partner (such as a qualified software
developer for z/OS, z/VSE, etc.) or academic institution, you are likely
eligible for sharp reductions in MLC through such programs as PartnerWorld
and the System z Academic
just wondering ... for that purpose, wouldn't something like ABARS make
more sense?
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We don't use any of the tools you mention ... and we don't have tools
for the functions you list ... but we do have Zeke (job scheduler). It
works for us ... and I haven't had any problems with it ... and nobody's
asked questions about it ... hence I haven't mentioned anything here ...
--Stephen
we do something similar ... our exec submits a batch job that runs
XMITIP ...
--Stephen
On 09/10/2010 07:33 AM, Dale McCart wrote:
The following OPS/MVS MSG rule and REXX uses SMTP to send message to
e-mail and phones.
)MSG IEC070I
)PROC
IF (MSG.JOBNAME = DLISASPP),
THEN DO
On 09/03/2010 04:19 AM, McKown, John wrote:
I'm just curious if any shops out there have really integrated staffs between
the mainframe and distributed groups. Do your mainframe application folks
also write distributed applications? Do your mainframe sysprogs also act as
Linux sysadmins
to CALL ...
--Stephen
On 08/19/2010 01:47 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:17:17 -1000, Stephen Y Odo
stephenyodo.li...@gmail.com wrote:
what does execv do? is it just to run whatever
/fully/qualified/pathname is? wouldn't this work:
/* REXX
On 08/23/2010 10:31 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:16:15 -1000, Stephen Y Odo wrote:
I use CALL when I run a REXX exec (e.g. CALL
/fully/qualified/pathname) ... that works ...
If I just do the /fully/qualified/pathname it actually runs but I get
some weird return codes
what does execv do? is it just to run whatever
/fully/qualified/pathname is? wouldn't this work:
/* REXX ***/
/**/
David Andrews wrote:
wonder if I can get it running on my Droid?
Don't think so - doesn't Android limit you to the Dalvik JVM?
hmmm ... yes, that's true ... and I don't want to hack my phone ...
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kewl ... how'd you do it? any instructions/tips? wonder if I can get
it running on my Droid?
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David Andrews wrote:
On Sun, 2010-04-04 at 00:15 -0400, Ravi Kumar wrote:
Does anyone having experience installing Hercules Emulator on Window Vista?
I *did* install it (along
Bob Woodside wrote:
On Monday 08 March 2010, Stephen Y Odo wrote:
I've been trying to get Linux onto our z890 (even have CENTOS running
in an LPAR as a proof-of-concept)
What version of CentOS, and where did you find an installation
image? I looked around for one a year
Mark Post wrote:
It's more symptomatic of not having access to a suitable development
environment. I recently pointed one of their developers to Marist
College. I'm pretty sure he'll be met with open arms, as have many of
us working on System z-related Open Source projects. Also, you're
We used to be a VM and MVS shop (so I guess I'm one of those few who
have experience with both). We ran VM just to run multiple MVS guests.
A couple of those guests were for our Computer Science department to use
for teaching purposes so VM was nice (all they had to do was login and
IPL -- no
George Henke wrote:
Also, it should be noted, that IBM offers z/VM virtually for free to
hospitals and universities as long as they use it for research.
and that's the rub. why the requirement that it be used ONLY for research?
none of the other vendors have such restrictions.
that's one
Mike Myers wrote:
That's interesting to me that you would suggest IBM will give z/VM for
free to hospitals. I am presently consulting at a hospital that is
moving away from z/OS and moving their primary applications to the
mid-range.
I would like to get the to look at using the mainframe
, Mar 9th, 2010 at 8:22 AM, Stephen Y Odo wrote:
... And paved the way for our
migration to Solaris (which was FREE whether we used it for academic
OR research OR administrative purposes).
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where does it say that? on page 2 of the document I see:
z/OS V1.12 is planned to run on these IBM System z® servers:
| • z10 EC
| • z10 BC
| • z9 EC
| • z9 BC
| • z990*
| • z890*
| • z900*
| • z800*
| * These products are withdrawn from marketing.
looks like it will still run
I still don't see why there would be a problem with just PARM= behaving
just as it does now.
and having a new PARMX= (or whatever) that sets up exactly the same
thing except that the string can be up to whatever that two-byte length
field allows (I don't remember if it's supposed to be signed or
Thanks for the info ... but ...
the zPDT is not intended for academia-related education purposes, not
for Systems Integrators for software asset maintenance, ...
*sigh* still nothing for academia or the hobbyist ...
--Stephen
Mike At HammockTree wrote:
Please excuse a slightly off-topic
Rick Fochtman wrote:
Thanks, Chris. I'm stuck here on a z/800 box, running z/OS 1.4 and
wishing that an upgrade was probably, or at least possible.
Unfortunately, it looks like the only upgrade on the horizon is to
shift to Sun platforms, as soon as the COBOL legacy code is adjusted
and
And that's the reason I want a hobbyist license for z/OS that can run
on a PC ...
The skills that are available are basically the ones that students have
access to. To be proficient at something, you need to have lots of
hands-on time to tinker. Students can install Java, UNIX, Linux,
LPAR
to teach their classes -- Enterprise COBOL on z/OS 1.9 with CICS TS
3.1). Sorry for the shameless plug ... but ... hire our graduates!!! :-)
--Stephen
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Steve Comstock wrote:
Wow. You told me earlier that Hawaii was on the brink
of becoming a mainframe-free state. Wonder how long
the CC will teach a curriculum if their graduates
can't find work locally.
yup ... a lot of them graduate and leave the state to find employment
... but that's
to be right out of school and are getting entry-level pay. But our
old-timers understand how our customers run the business and have better
working relationships with them.
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Arthur Gutowski wrote:
Merging existing systems is a necessity, and it needs to be staged in
manageable chunks. I think most of the various groups in IBM understand
that (growing pains and scars). As a sysprog's job goes largely unnoticed
(until something goes wrong), more so goes that of
So, this article is basically saying that I should stop recommending
Linux + z/VM + IFL to my management and instead push for Linux + VMware
+ Xeon ...
--Stephen
Ken Porowski wrote:
IBM halves mainframe Linux engine prices
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/17/ibm_mainframe_linux_cuts/
Timothy Sipples wrote:
As Mark Post alludes to, the author forgot lots of things, including (for
example) the traditional separation between IFL purchases and frame upgrade
purchases. That is, typically an IFL purchase much more closely resembles a
one-time charge.
Can you elaborate on
I use DBSYNC for that kind of thing ...
run DBSYNC on the system that you want to copy from, edit the output
REXX that it generates to make sure it's doing what you want and then
run it on the system you're copying to ...
--Stephen
Jim McAlpine wrote:
I need to take our existing RACF
We have 3 LPARs configured as monoplex. One for our Production
environment, one for our Test/QA environment, and one for our
Application Development environment.
From this discussion, it sounds like everybody is saying even we would
benefit from Sysplex.
If we did do Sysplex, would we still be
One thing we looked at was using CAS (from Yale University -- try
http://www.yale.edu/tp/auth/usingcasatyale.html). One of the things it
can use as an authentication back-end is an LDAP server so we were
thinking of trying it with the one that comes with z/OS.
We never got around to trying it (it
Edward Jaffe wrote:
Scott T. Harder wrote:
I used to support a product that provided samples in both REXX and
Clist.
MAJOR pain. Once you go to REXX, you won't look back. Much more
powerful
in terms of numbers and it just seems so much more intuitive.
The worst thing about REXX is
we're at z/OS 1.7 ... and I set:
INBOUNDOPENLIMIT 0
in the SMTP config file ... which causes SMTP to not listen on port 25.
which should be as good as block the port ...
and we're still able to send outbound messages ...
--Stephen
Hal Merritt wrote:
I've been asked to look into killing
*heh-heh*
we just started year 20 of our 5-year plan to get off of our mainframe.
and I was just informed this week that our 4Q 2009 target for rolling
our z890 out the door is now being pushed back to 1Q 2011!
--Stephen
Ken Gunther wrote:
Rex,
Sadly our goal of getting off the
Bobbie Justice wrote:
:I don't recall being asked if I wanted to have a scrollable area the
size of a 3270 MOD 1 (40x12).
ditto, me neither. I also submitted a feedback on this issue. I'm
wondering who exactly requested that change? .
probably one of those guys who uses his Blackberry or
Hi,
Just curious: has anybody put together a document with tips on using TSSO?
Reason I ask: I spent the last few days trying to figure out why
ADAPFMUP TABENTRY MSG=ADAN01,TEST=((S,8,5,'6')),ACTION=POST
never seems to fire. Turns out that ADABAS' short message IDs (ADAN01
is only 6
Doug Fuerst wrote:
There is a parameter that has to be put in the init file to set
printing to no. It will take me a bit to find it.
edit your .ws file and add:
[LT]
IgnoreWCCStartPrint=Y
UndefinedCode=Y
UndefinedDBCSChar=Y
We're using a program from the CBT tape ... I think it's from Gilbert
Saint-flour ... to do just that ...
--Stephen
Itschak Mugzach wrote:
Why don't you pre-recall files with OpenTech's Hrecall product? It will cut
a lot of job waits for you.
Itschak
I use DBSYNC which can be used to read your IRRDBU00 output file and
generates the necessary commands to re-build the database. I then edit
the resulting REXX files to pull out the commands I need and edit then
execute them.
You might get better responses from the RACF-L list
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Steve Comstock wrote:
H. Where do you find this? I went to the Firefox site
and did not find NoScript in the list of addons or plugins.
Don't know about Firefox but for Seamonkey it was in the extensions
page ...
--Stephen
Eric Bielefeld wrote:
I think many of the estimates people have givin on this thread seem really high for the number of sysprogs to staff a z/OS site. At PH, for the last 10 years or so, we had 3 sysprogs. We only had a 115 MIP machine, so were very small.
We're a small shop too. We run a
Same here ... we started on our 5-year plan to migrate off of the
mainframe ... about 17 years ago ...
We're now down to our last big application on the mainframe ... and are
scheduled to decommission our mainframe at the end of this year. But I
heard we ran into a snag with the replacement
Lindy Mayfield wrote:
I was asked this question and I have to admit I am so clueless I'm not
even sure how to google it.
Is it possible to print PDF's or PS documents on a mainframe printer?
depends on what you mean by a mainframe printer.
if you're talking about traditional PSF-driven
Paul Gilmartin wrote:
could. But would it happen? Is z/OS at any price a preferred
instructional platform? How relevant to mainstream computer
science is teaching students to code DD statements for CKD DASD
when the view of many sophisticated readers of this list is
that CKD should be
Ron Wells wrote:
Maybe more to the point...we ... userscan help in the development
..supply real life enhancements if given the chance..
suggestions and etc..--like at share--does work...but comes slow...if we
had the opportunity to contribute REAL code changes I think a
much can come
Kirk Wolf wrote:
I normally use an ssh or (non-3270) telent session to get a real Unix
shell on z/OS, but sometimes it is necessary or convenient to the the TSO
OMVS command. It has always bothered me as to why this thing wasn't an ISPF
dialog so that you could split the screen, etc. Doesn't
Lizette Koehler wrote:
I am not VTAM or TCPIP savy, so if someone could guide me in the right direction.
What is the best way to send a page from the mainframe to a pager?
What equipment?
What software?
Do I need to send it to a midrange/server device?
I am hoping to see if we can create
Ed Gould wrote:
Then why did IBM bother with the VF?
Never heard of it so I guess it, that doesn't mean it never existed
just an extremely small audience. I don't recall ever hearing anything
about VF . I would expect if it were popular that there would be a
current model, no?
I am
Charles Mills wrote:
expertise and budget, you can't sell people what they don't want. If people
are buying squatty boxes, it must be because they offer some benefit. And my
larger point was that we will not succeed with mainframes by denying the
capabilities of other boxes, but rather by
Dave Jones wrote:
IBM's actions here (not offering very cheap/free software licenses, free
hardware, etc.) as compared to what other vendors are willing to do might be
a result of the anti-trust cases brought against it decades ago (last one in
1969?).
IBM was accused of maintaining it's
about IBM's new programs for education and
such, but they still haven't changed the one thing that keeps shooting
them in the foot. Clueless!
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kinda back to normal already ...
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and learning without
having to write up a project proposal and getting approval to get access
to a system.
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this helps.
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John Dawes wrote:
Thanks to all who replied. I tried Jon's suggestion it worked. I also tried the
UNNUM but I received the message :Not in Number mode.
I usually just do a RENUM and then an UNNUM in that case.
For the future, Do I have to keep doing the NUM OFF command? Is there a way
Daniel A. McLaughlin wrote:
If we want to reach out to the younger set, aside from college, is there
any way to work through user groups and have Info days?
The market seems (my opinion) to be flooded with new A+ and CNA types
because high schools are cranking them out. Maybe we could lure
... had to download and install it under OpenSuSE ...
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seems like the CBT tape would be a good home for this. see
http://www.cbttape.org/
-- Stephen
Clem Clarke wrote:
Greetings.
I want to share some PL/I and Assembler code through Open Source, and
wonder where the best place might be to do this.
And, of course, any changes to the code need
Rugen, Len wrote:
Ours is going away too has been for about 7 years and 2 upgrade ago.
The current plan is that will REALLY be gone in 3 years.
kinda like ours then ... we're on year 16 of our 5-year plan to get off
of our mainframe ... we've moved two of our major applications (HR and
. Or will that also operate sequentially?
Hmmm. For greatest concurrency, a Rexx exec that does SYSCALL spawn of
a process that does BPXWDYN( 'alloc ...' ) for each data set?
-- gil
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We've been using NC-Access/NC-PASS from PassGo for a number of years ...
works well ... haven't had any problems with it ...
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Bruce Black wrote:
I see he is offering a flowchart template for $17.95 (no bidders
yet). Heck, I still have the identical one in drawer, hardly ever used.
I have two of those at home ... still in the paper sleeve ... and a HIPO
chart template ... my kids use them for drawing stuff ...
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