Re: WLM for toddlers

2008-02-07 Thread tony babonas
Way back when we first implemented stored procedures under WLM the first problem that surfaced came from Top Secret. The user that invoked the SP was stopped via a security violation. Top Secret issued a 1C-06, no access to the facility called STC. Took us a while to figure it out but we saw

Re: Migration from Mainframe to othre platforms - the othe bell?

2008-01-31 Thread tony babonas
Hey, that's great news! I used to run a forklift... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 3:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Migration from Mainframe to othre

Re: Icetool question

2008-01-30 Thread tony babonas
From personal experience I can state that ICETOOL is cool. :-) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 8:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Icetool question Don Leahy

Re: Icetool question

2008-01-30 Thread tony babonas
or set up a symbol: symnames dd * thewholedarnrecord,1,80,ch /* then the control statement would be: SELECT FROM(T1) TO(OUT) ON(thewholedarnrecord) NODUPS USING(CTL3) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Brazee Sent:

Re: Question on 64 bit

2008-01-29 Thread tony babonas
Dontcha love it when the platform stays and the management leaves. :-) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Mihalec Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 3:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question on 64 bit Thanks,

Re: Re-hosting IMB-MAIN (was RE: z890 2086-160 w/ 2 IFLs on eBay)

2008-01-18 Thread tony babonas
.. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 2:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Re-hosting IMB-MAIN (was RE: z890 2086-160 w/ 2 IFLs on eBay) tony babonas wrote: Why don't we

Re-hosting IMB-MAIN (was RE: z890 2086-160 w/ 2 IFLs on eBay)

2008-01-18 Thread tony babonas
Why don't we take up a collection to buy an old CPU, zOS and all else needed, then host IBM-MAIN, RACF-L, CICS-L, VM-L, DB2-L etc etc. Manpower to support it shouldn't be an issue. Possible? Would be a great proof of concept. How much would each of us have to pony up? Imagine the

Re: Re-hosting IMB-MAIN (was RE: z890 2086-160 w/ 2 IFLs on eBay)

2008-01-18 Thread tony babonas
@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Re-hosting IMB-MAIN (was RE: z890 2086-160 w/ 2 IFLs on eBay) You could save some money by running SLES10 and the linux version of LSoft's LISTSERV product. No z/OS or z/VM necessary. /Tom Kern On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:18:41 -0600, tony babonas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why

Topic denotation suggestion (a Virtual Darren)

2008-01-11 Thread tony babonas
Let's start marking our subject lines On Topic in order to identify the few posts that actually relate to IBM mainframe software and topics. ;-D No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.1/1219 - Release Date: 1/11/2008

Re: Deleting after FTP

2008-01-11 Thread tony babonas
Jan 2008 13:30:53 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (tony babonas) wrote: FTP a temp file...let the OS do the work. Can I pass a true temporary file name within the FTP command? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Deleting after FTP

2008-01-11 Thread tony babonas
FTP a temp file...let the OS do the work. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Brazee Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 3:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Deleting after FTP On 11 Jan 2008 12:44:25

Re: TPX Acl/e Code and Dispatch

2007-12-06 Thread tony babonas
are you a Top Secet shop? If so, check the parameters for the facility involved, specifically SIGN(M) or SIGN(S) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 3:51 PM To:

Re: pre-validating RACF userids and passwords in application.

2007-07-13 Thread tony babonas
But why solve the problems? Pre-validation in this sense could be renamed let's try a few things to see if we're close to guessing the password We currently have this issue in our shop. Us security types look at it as working as designed. Three strikes and you're out exists for a reason. In

Re: Another BIG Mainframe Bites the Dust

2006-10-12 Thread tony babonas
What a terrible thing to say about one's wife ! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Black Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 2:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Another BIG Mainframe Bites the Dust forgive the

Re: Non-SMP/e packaging

2006-09-12 Thread tony babonas
I once installed a product called TASA from INFOSECINC. The package is downloadable from the company's web site as a binary file. It then is TSO RECEIVED into a samplib. The supplied install jobs do all the SMPE stuff. Seems the best of both worlds. -Original Message-

Re: Are posts from Annie and Leon Wheeler a bot or something?

2006-09-11 Thread tony babonas
Whatever their site is I'm deeply envious of how comprehensive its contents are. The design must be such that: 1. It's readily update-able. 2. It's readily search-able, in that a reference to the 1978 version of the ABC Frammis get quoted rather instantly. 3. Seeming non-redundant, though I

Re: TSO signon panel

2006-08-18 Thread tony babonas
What about MAIL/NOMAIL etc, the selections at the bottom of the screen? Controllable? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Perryman, Brian Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 9:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TSO signon

Veteren sysprog (was RE: JES2 SPOOLDEF )

2006-08-18 Thread tony babonas
Hmmm, peak season coming up and they bag their veteran sysprog. What else did they do to prepare, get rid of all their spare shopping bags? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Bruns Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 12:45 PM

Re: Slightly off topic

2006-05-31 Thread tony babonas
The last time I least expected it was August 10, 1988, 3:20 P.M. CST. Funny how sharp my memory is about these things. The next 6 events of this type were expected, mostly after a longer interval than I would have expected. I've even lost a few wagers to my wife (i.e. gee honey, how long do

Re: Slightly off topic

2006-05-30 Thread tony babonas
long term commitment to a new job !!! Don't make me laugh. When was any employer willing to make a long term commitment, and in return expect the same from you ? Seriously, this question is off limits to employers, there have been lawsuits over things similar, asked at interviews. Remember

Re: Systems Programmer Levels Justification

2006-04-03 Thread tony babonas
teleworking here in the chicago area is becoming commonplace. our usual relationships are with branches and contractors overseas. the cubicle and face time is becoming the 8 track tape of technology. our company is short of office space... -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: Systems Programmer Levels Justification

2006-04-02 Thread tony babonas
Gee I wonder, hypothetically: if all companies did allow teleworking for sysprogs, would there be a shortage, or excess for that matter? Tele-freedom would certainly smooth out the geographic supply/demand imbalance (and I'm speculating that imbalance does exist, without knowing).

Re: SMP/E for non-sysprogs?

2006-03-06 Thread tony babonas
Yep, we did it. Pros: none, other than management fantasy of lower salaried people replacing higher salaried people. Cons: Murphy's Law in every imagineable form. Children should not use power tools, only experienced adults. You will not have to wait for the long run for this to haunt

Code borrowing (was RE: Data Set Name Hiding)

2006-02-26 Thread tony babonas
I wish I had all you guys' problems. We have no one here who understands basic JCL, let alone any compiled or interpreted language. I'd gladly giv e away everything I have developed over the years, even to the point of allocating a PDS(E) for the borrower, populating it, showing them

Re: Redirecting Software Functionality

2006-02-16 Thread tony babonas
I hasten to clarify, we restrict program usage, in our case SAS, by restricting the load library from which it is executed, for example our permission was written as follows: TSS PER( SASPROF ) DSN( HLQ.SAS.LOADLIB ) ACCESS(FETCH) SYSID(ESYS) Since our search algorithm is merge, all merge users

Re: Redirecting Software Functionality

2006-02-15 Thread tony babonas
we also restrict SAS to 1 lpar for contractual reasons. we have CA/Top Secret so we can restrict programs and datasets by SMF IDs. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Whitteridge Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:18 PM

Re: Omvs/tcpip question

2006-02-01 Thread tony babonas
this brings back a faint memory, though I can assure you our problem symptoms were identical. we went through the entire diagnosis, as did you, exactly in the same sequence. this occurred when we installed zos 1.4 several years ago. the solution (here's the sketchy part) involved the location

Re: Newbie: Concatenate sysprint from precompiler, compiler and linkeditor in a single PDSE member

2006-01-30 Thread tony babonas
fails?? Regs FA - Original Message - From: tony babonas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 12:59 AM Subject: Re: Newbie: Concatenate sysprint from precompiler, compiler and linkeditor in a single PDSE member easy

Re: Basic question on deleting datasets

2006-01-30 Thread tony babonas
Yes, Giovanni, my astute colleague, very, very carefully indeed. I use this exact example in our security standards to solidify the concept that users should not have more access than they need to do their job.. Once, during a disaster recovery test, I ran this exact job stream at the end of

Re: Newbie: Concatenate sysprint from precompiler, compiler and linkeditor in a single PDSE member

2006-01-24 Thread tony babonas
easy, allocate a sysprint dataset for each step, writing output as dsn=sysprin1, sysprin2, sysprin3 respectively. then add a step: // set member=anyname //step2 exec pgm=sort //sortin dd dsn=sysprin1,disp=old dd dsn=sysprin2,disp=old dd dsn=sysprin3,disp=old //sortout dd

Re: To create many RACF profiles at one time

2006-01-09 Thread tony babonas
The actual grunt work of creating commands is trivial, i.e. //sortin dd dsn=any.file.containing.dataset.hlqs,disp=shr //sortout dd dsn=any.file.that.will.be.executed.commands,disp=(new,..) //sysin dd * sort fields=copy outrec fields=(c' add command syntax', 01,10,

Re: FTP userid propagation

2006-01-04 Thread tony babonas
Instead of using the originating user, use a special ID for the batch process. Then permit a surrogat profile(RACF) or permit the ACID(Top Secret) to the large number of TSO users who need to run this job. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Kick off a job on a different LPAR.

2005-12-05 Thread tony babonas
We do this sort of thing all the time, using XCOM, a CA product that does FTP-like things. Here's the sequence of events: 1. JOB-A on LPAR-A runs and does: a. iefbr14 to delete a dataset-a that will receive output from LPAR-B. b. sends JOB-B to LPAR-B. 2. JOB-B runs on LPAR-B and does:

Re: SYS1.UADS - when is it read?

2005-11-22 Thread tony babonas
And as easy as Dave says (and I can vouch for having done so for several companies) it can be done gradually. I once did a UADS phaseout one department at a time, without the users being inconvenienced or even realizing it was happening. I've also never, repeat never, kept any emergency IDs in

Re: SYS1.UADS - when is it read?

2005-11-22 Thread tony babonas
All you really need do is to write the UADS dataset to a file, parse the output and create the appropriate RACF commands. Once you visualize the UADS content, reverse engineering them into RACF commands is easy. I've used DF/SORT for this sort of thing, regardless of the ESM present. tb

Re: Finding matched records

2005-10-24 Thread tony babonas
DF/SORT, a plethora of logic. See SPLICE for starters. FY's URL is plentiful in the archives. FWIW, we've replaces lots of simpleminded COBOL/PL1/REXX/other HL languages code with IBM's DF/SORT. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: Finding matched records

2005-10-24 Thread tony babonas
Also check the ALLDUPS in the sort parms URL. A favorite for security folks.. -Original Message- From: tony babonas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 3:03 PM To: 'IBM Mainframe Discussion List' Subject: RE: Finding matched records DF/SORT, a plethora

Re: MVCIN instruction

2005-10-20 Thread tony babonas
Nope, not exactly. Count me in. In the late 70s we ran an election tabulation program using CB on a 25?? reader. The card had punches in almost every position. Years before the hanging chads. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: SORT help - to split by delimiters

2005-08-09 Thread Tony Babonas
- to split by delimiters -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of tony babonas There's a crude way to do this by aligning the data in a series of temp files, i.e. OUTREC OUTFIL=OUT1, INCLUDE=(8,3,CH,EQ,C'99~'), WHEN COL 8

Re: SORT help - to split by delimiters

2005-08-09 Thread tony babonas
. tb -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Yaeger Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 7:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SORT help - to split by delimiters Tony Babonas wrote: Nah, Yaeger is always one step ahead

Re: SORT help - to split by delimiters

2005-08-08 Thread tony babonas
There's a crude way to do this by aligning the data in a series of temp files, i.e. OUTREC OUTFIL=OUT1, INCLUDE=(8,3,CH,EQ,C'99~'), WHEN COL 8 IS THE DESIRED 99~ OUTREC=(11,5) numeric data following the ~ repeat this block of lines for every

Re: CKD commands and PDS writing

2005-07-31 Thread Tony Babonas
Colleagues, this has been one of the most enjoyable threads I have ever read in my 5 years of lurking. It sounds like it's not done yet so after saying my minimal piece I'll shut up and continue to lurk in enjoyment. For the record, here's the attributes I've found so appealing: 1. 99.9 %

Re: HALON et al

2005-06-22 Thread Tony Babonas
This is attributable to me, for the record. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: HALON et al In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on

Re: Washington Post: 40 Million Credit Card #s Hacked

2005-06-21 Thread Tony Babonas
Not true, I've been in 3 HALON dumps back in the days it was THE method for computer room FS. One must exit quickly as it will make you short of breath at high enough concentrations since it displaces oxygen. I can best describe the experience as running at 10,000 feet elevation.

Re: Top Secret TIMELOCK value

2005-06-16 Thread Tony Babonas
I reiterate my YMMV caveat since I can only speak for the secfile demand patterns of our shop. The numbers I cite have worked flawlessly for us since '99 and hopefully are conceptually correct in other environments. In other environments those same numbers may perform acceptably or give you

Re: Userids

2005-06-02 Thread Tony Babonas
Oh my gosh, I thought we were the last company to convert from UADS to external security (TSS last year). It's mystifying why anyone would outvote you on this count. We were years and years overdue but we're certainly not looking back. I've done several of these conversions, each with the