Subject: Re: 33 Years In IT/Security/Audit
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I started mine
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snip---
Man I am overwhelmed by all this experience. Its a good thing. Yes
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
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I started mine on a WANG-VS which was user friendly. After
Umamaheshwar Iyer pisze:
I started mine on a WANG-VS which was user friendly. After the demise of
this wonderful machine, I got a chance working on the Mainframe, which
was quite tough when working from a user friendly system to a non-user
friendly system. Almost 25 Years now!
Any idea if
ui0037...@techmahindra.com (Umamaheshwar Iyer) writes:
I started mine on a WANG-VS which was user friendly. After the demise of
this wonderful machine, I got a chance working on the Mainframe, which
was quite tough when working from a user friendly system to a non-user
friendly system. Almost
, 2009 7:48 AM
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I started mine on a WANG-VS which was user friendly. After the demise
of
this wonderful machine, I got a chance working on the Mainframe, which
was quite tough when working from a user friendly system to a non
I think the reason WANG went out of business was that their clients couldn't
stop snickering...
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 15:43:41 +0200, R.S.
r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote:
In simple words no.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wang_Laboratories
--
Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland
The Wang VS machine was a great machine for system development.
I ran circles around an IBM development group on the Wang VS
at Merrill Lynch.
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:49:22 -0500
From: docfarmer9...@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Re: 33 Years In IT/Security/Audit
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I
dropped the hardware. Some years ago
I was bidding on migrating WANG/VS based entities to z/OS. I understand
that there are still a few holdouts in the Government arena.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009n.html#10 33 Years In IT/Security/Audit
there aren't a lot of stuff that had gotten B3
In 152801ca2b15$d0622140$712663...@co.uk, on 09/01/2009
at 11:06 AM, Doc Farmer docfarmer9...@yahoo.co.uk said:
Man, do I feel OLD!!!
Old? My first computer[1] used a drum for main storage and vacuum tubes
for logic; there are people on this list who go back further than me.
[1] It was an
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Oh Temptation! fought you long 'n hard,
armed with but a fragile shard,
..of modesty.
March 1966, IBM Service Bureau, employed to operate unit record
On 1 Sep 2009 22:25:11 -0700, gra...@ase.com.au (Graeme Gibson) wrote:
March 1966, IBM Service Bureau, employed to operate unit record
1401. Self-taught 1401 machine language (in the graveyard hours) in
which I wrote lots of programs and I'd never heard of Autocoder until
I'd moved on to
: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 9:09:40 PM
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Writing assemble in 16k? Wow. The 2nd job I had, our 360/20 had 4k. Of
course, no one wrote any assembler for it. We used some report writing
programs, a card sort program, and a few other utility programs. Then, we
---snip--
The 360/20's best language was RPG. Fist real computer I ever saw, with
a 2415, a 1403 of some kind I believe, and the MFCM, where the last 2
characters stood for card muncher. Use your imagination for the first
two characters. :-)
Who was mother Fletcher...been called a MF'er before, not sure if this
is the same context. :-)
BTW, my first computer was a VIC 20, 16K of ram and only a tape
drive...or I should say cassette. Took me 12 years to get to the big
iron.
---snip--
snip---
Man I am overwhelmed by all this experience. Its a good thing. Yes, I
want to retire and lay in the rays
But my variable is money based on this nutty economy.
---unsnip--
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The IBM 1620 was the computer my high school used for the math elective I
took in the spring of 1971. First day of class, I had the dubious honor of
toggling in a bootstrap program.
Five and a half years later (June 23, 1976), I logged onto my first virtual
machine on an Amdahl 470/V6. I haven't
Folks,
Today marks when I started my first job in IT. Well, my first PAYING
job - I built my first PC for a guy when I was 15, but I'm talking the
BIG IRON. I started as a keypunch operator on night-shift (while going
to high school during the day for my senior year), I actually ENJOYED
2009/9/1 Doc Farmer docfarmer9...@yahoo.co.uk
Folks,
Today marks when I started my first job in IT. Well, my first PAYING
job - I built my first PC for a guy when I was 15, but I'm talking the
BIG IRON.
So you built your first PC even more than 33 years ago, that's earlier than
1976? What
What number Altair Kit did you get?
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2009/9/1 Doc Farmer
H
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What number Altair Kit did you get?
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What number Altair Kit did you get?
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docfarmer9...@yahoo.co.uk (Doc Farmer) writes:
Today marks when I started my first job in IT. Well, my first PAYING
job - I built my first PC for a guy when I was 15, but I'm talking the
BIG IRON. I started as a keypunch operator on night-shift (while going
to high school during the day
I resisted the urge to reply to this when the thread started 4 hours ago,
but at the risk of being reprimanded, I'll reply.
I remember my first job working for a company with a 360/40 computer in
1969. I was an operator for 2 years on 3rd shift. Sometimes I got done at
5 or 6 in the
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I resisted the urge to reply to this when the thread started 4 hours ago, but
at the risk of being reprimanded, I'll reply.
I remember my first job working for a company with a 360/40 computer
On 1 Sep 2009 10:04:14 -0700, enrique.mont...@esc-gps.com (Enrique
Montero) wrote:
my first PC was an Atari 800XL, with a word processor, modem, 5 1/4
diskette, and casette. It was great to program with Basic and assembler.
I wanted to study Petroleum Engineer, but my brother bought this pc, so
i
Actually, the rubber mallet on the 2821 was used to fix parity problems
in the 1403 core matrix. Intermittent print checks was the symptom. BTW,
a well place foot worked in lieu of a mallet. one of my first lessons as
a CE..
Doug
Eric Bielefeld wrote:
snip
I remember a 1403 control
I remember a 1403 control. unit where the CE pounded on it with a big hard
rubber mallet, and then it started working again. Very interesting stuff back
then.
It's called 'percussive maintenance'.
If it don't work, belt it.
We had a few GANDALF terminals hooked up to a Honeywell Level 66, in
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Doug Fuerst
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Actually, the rubber mallet on the 2821 was used to fix parity problems
in the 1403 core matrix. Intermittent print checks was the symptom
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I resisted the urge to reply to this when the thread started 4 hours ago,
but at the risk of being reprimanded, I'll reply.
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I remember helping Wong Hsiao-Yü build his model 1 abacus during the reign
of Emperor Po-Tzo the second.
Or was it Babbage and his model 1 Difference Engine?
It must have been Babbage, since I also remember when he suddenly awoke from
That's how we used to fix printers as well...
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I remember a 1403
I started in 1969 on a 360/44, with a 1620/20 in the background. Never
looked back . :-) Also plugged boards for the infamous 407, 'cuz the
1620 had only card reader and card punch and console.
Rick
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: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 4:24:58 PM
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I started in 1969 on a 360/44, with a 1620/20 in the background. Never looked
back . :-) Also plugged boards for the infamous 407, 'cuz the 1620 had only
card reader and card punch and console.
Rick
: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 4:38 PM
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I remember a CE ( my dad was a Unisys CE ) used his feet to shove a stuck
2319 on a DOS/VS back in place.
I also remember writing Assembler on a 360/20 using 16k ..man
Scott J Ford
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I remember a CE ( my dad was a Unisys CE ) used his feet to shove a
stuck 2319 on a DOS/VS back in place.
I also remember writing Assembler on a 360/20 using 16k ..man
Scott J Ford
Oh Temptation! fought you long 'n hard,
armed with but a fragile shard,
..of modesty.
March 1966, IBM Service Bureau, employed to operate unit record
1401. Self-taught 1401 machine language (in the graveyard hours) in
which I wrote lots of programs and I'd never heard of Autocoder until
I'd
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