Re: 3480/3490 Cart BPI

2007-05-06 Thread Mike Baldwin
Tom wrote: Not parity. 3480 is 18 tracks. That's 16 data bits and two parity bits. Although 8 bit bytes are represented by 9 bit patterns, data bytes are recorded in frames, that are grouped into clusters. 4 tracks are reserved for redundancy check bytes. Up to 14 tracks contain data bytes,

Re: 3480/3490 Cart BPI

2007-04-30 Thread Tom Marchant
On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 20:55:31 -0400, John S. Giltner, Jr. wrote: I wonder if the differnce of 32K and 38K is user data vs user data +parity. Not parity. 3480 is 18 tracks. That's 16 data bits and two parity bits. -- Tom Marchant

Re: 3480/3490 Cart BPI

2007-04-30 Thread Mark Zelden
I have these comments in my REXX TAPESTAK program: /* */ /* Add in the Inter Block Gaps (IBG) */ /* */ /* The density of a 3480 cartrige

Re: 3480/3490 Cart BPI

2007-04-30 Thread Rick Fochtman
R.S. wrote: Robert Pelletier wrote: Hi All. Question. Would anyone know the BPI of a 3480 cart running on 3480E drive (mock 3490). We have a request from a user to send us a 38,000 bpi cart. I swear they are 6250 bpi. Can anyone clear this up for me? Where are they getting the 38,000? Thanks

Re: 3480/3490 Cart BPI

2007-04-29 Thread R.S.
Rich Smrcina wrote: So are you saying that Ditto lies? I already said what I'm saying. Few numbers simple math. I believe I didn't make any mistake in my computations, and the numbers I used are correct (*). Aren't that ? If you ask about DITTO - well in my understanding DITTO has no idea

Re: 3480/3490 Cart BPI

2007-04-29 Thread Bruce Black
If you ask about DITTO - well in my understanding DITTO has no idea about real BPI. How DITTO can measure length of the tape and number of bytes written, especially when compression is turned on? Can DITTO access number of metres of tape rewound from any counter in the drive? I can be wrong,

Re: 3480/3490 Cart BPI

2007-04-29 Thread Clark Morris
On 29 Apr 2007 08:29:05 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: If you ask about DITTO - well in my understanding DITTO has no idea about real BPI. How DITTO can measure length of the tape and number of bytes written, especially when compression is turned on? Can DITTO access number of

Re: 3480/3490 Cart BPI

2007-04-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/28/2007 at 07:24 PM, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Back to the question: CST cartridge contains 160m of tape. Uncompressed capacity in 36-track drive (3490E) is 400MB. So 400MB/160m gives 25000 B/cm Inch is 2.54 cm, so the BPI is 63500. CST in 3480 drive has 31750

Re: 3480/3490 Cart BPI

2007-04-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/28/2007 at 08:55 PM, John S. Giltner, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I wonder if the differnce of 32K and 38K is user data vs user data +parity. I have yet to see a product description in which the values given were anything but the physical density. If you want

Re: 3480/3490 Cart BPI

2007-04-29 Thread Mike Baldwin
R.S. said: It rather cannot be 38000. If looking for an exact number, I think this is correct. But not for the reason described. According to the ECMA standard, due to the ECC bytes (etc.) the maximum density of data bytes is ...1,491 bytes per mm = 37,871.4 BPI If the maximum is 37,871,

Re: 3480/3490 Cart BPI

2007-04-28 Thread Rich Smrcina
So are you saying that Ditto lies? R.S. wrote: Robert Pelletier wrote: Hi All. Question. Would anyone know the BPI of a 3480 cart running on 3480E drive (mock 3490). We have a request from a user to send us a 38,000 bpi cart. I swear they are 6250 bpi. Can anyone clear this up for me? Where

Re: 3480/3490 Cart BPI

2007-04-28 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
I found a few references to some 3490E talking about the recording density of 37,871 BPI http://www.sunstarco.com/Tape%20Drives/Overland%20Data/Overland%20Data%20tapexpress_l490e.htm http://www.archives.gov/records-mgmt/initiatives/transfer-regulation.html

3480/3490 Cart BPI

2007-04-27 Thread Robert Pelletier
Hi All. Question. Would anyone know the BPI of a 3480 cart running on 3480E drive (mock 3490). We have a request from a user to send us a 38,000 bpi cart. I swear they are 6250 bpi. Can anyone clear this up for me? Where are they getting the 38,000? Thanks once again all. Have a Nice Day !

Re: 3480/3490 Cart BPI

2007-04-27 Thread Rich Smrcina
6250 was 3420. The 3480 is 38K. Use DITTO to print the header and it will show you. Robert Pelletier wrote: Hi All. Question. Would anyone know the BPI of a 3480 cart running on 3480E drive (mock 3490). We have a request from a user to send us a 38,000 bpi cart. I swear they are 6250 bpi.

Re: 3480/3490 Cart BPI

2007-04-27 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
/3490 Cart BPI Hi All. Question. Would anyone know the BPI of a 3480 cart running on 3480E drive (mock 3490). We have a request from a user to send us a 38,000 bpi cart. I swear they are 6250 bpi. Can anyone clear this up for me? Where are they getting the 38,000? Thanks once again all. Have

Re: 3480/3490 Cart BPI

2007-04-27 Thread Robert Pelletier
Thanks I am DITTOing it as we speak. Have a Nice Day ! Bob Pelletier Connecticut Student Loan Foundation Rocky Hill, Ct. -Original Message- From: Pommier, Rex R. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 12:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 3480/3490 Cart BPI

Re: 3480/3490 Cart BPI

2007-04-27 Thread Robert Pelletier
, Ct. -Original Message- From: Robert Pelletier Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 12:21 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 3480/3490 Cart BPI Thanks I am DITTOing it as we speak. Have a Nice Day ! Bob Pelletier Connecticut Student Loan Foundation Rocky Hill, Ct. -Original