Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?

2010-03-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In blu149-w9b380f9fbe75912eb551ea1...@phx.gbl, on 03/25/2010 at 12:10 PM, Dave Salt ds...@hotmail.com said: IMO, the ideal compromise is to use tools like IPT (from IBM) and SimpList (from MacKinney). Partially, but that still doesn't address issues like cut and paste. I see a real need for a

Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?

2010-03-25 Thread clementcla...@ozemail.com.au
Charles Mills wrote: I think Chris has hit the nail on the head with regard to the viability of this idea as a product of some sort. (As a personal project -- that's a different matter.) Most mainframers (however that term might be defined) are familiar with TSO and ISPF. There would be a

Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?

2010-03-25 Thread Scott T. Harder
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of clementcla...@ozemail.com.au Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project? Charles Mills wrote

Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?

2010-03-25 Thread Dave Salt
: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project? To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of clementcla...@ozemail.com.au Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject

Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?

2010-03-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea005c021b...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom, on 03/19/2010 at 09:54 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said: So I've been considering how I might do more z/OS related work on my Linux desktop. IMHO there are only two reasonable approaches. I don't believe

Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?

2010-03-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1690246679-1269022366-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-6745864...@bda026.bisx.prod.on.blackberry, on 03/19/2010 at 06:13 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca said: Martin, you have what I consider a bad habit. PKB. With all the postings on IBM-Main it is difficult to understand the

Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?

2010-03-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4ba347f3.8ee2.003...@edfund.org, on 03/19/2010 at 09:46 AM, Natarajan Mohan nmo...@edfund.org said: All we need is a full fledged desktop for z/OS like Gnome or KDE which then we can export over a SSH session to any Xclient. I might believe X server. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,

Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?

2010-03-23 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 8:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project

Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?

2010-03-22 Thread Timothy Sipples
John, Please do have a look at the Remote Resources Access API in the Rational Developer for System z documentation. Here's a direct link: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/ratdevz/v7r6/topic/com.ibm.ftt.api.resource.doc/topics/rra_api_intro.html - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting

Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?

2010-03-19 Thread McKown, John
This is just something that I've been batting around in my head. I doubt that I'll ever actually do anything with it due to lack of time. But I really like my Linux desktop. And I no longer have a great love for TSO. So I've been considering how I might do more z/OS related work on my Linux

Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?

2010-03-19 Thread McKown, John
Oh, I forgot to mention that this would likely be used in conjunction with NFS so that the Linux desktop could directly access z/OS files, instead of using zcp to do a lot of copying. And perhaps a ztodsn and zfromdsn, modelled on Dovetailed Technologies' todsn and fromdsn, might be superior to

Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?

2010-03-19 Thread Bob Shannon
It must be Friday. Bob Shannon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?

2010-03-19 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Shannon Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 10:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project? It must be Friday. Bob Shannon

Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?

2010-03-19 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Shannon Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 10:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS

Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?

2010-03-19 Thread Kirk Wolf
John, To me its an interesting idea. As you know, you can already do this from your Linux desktop: fromdsn -ssh m...@zos //ZOS.DATASET local.file todsn -ssh m...@zos //ZOS.DATASET local.file But each of these starts a new ssh session, which can take a bit of time to set up, so the idea of

Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?

2010-03-19 Thread zMan
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:41 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: It's __that__ crazy an idea? It's difficult for me to tell. I'm about 6 sigmas from any norm. Right, always a good perspective to have. A friend and I often remind each other that we may not be typical. Is

Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?

2010-03-19 Thread Martin Packer
I use Apache webserver with PHP scripts to automate a lot of stuff - basically FTPing - on z/OS. Might be an attractive approach. (But command line via that is harder.) Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, Mainframe Performance Consultant, Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM

Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?

2010-03-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:58:04 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote: To me its an interesting idea. As you know, you can already do this from your Linux desktop: fromdsn -ssh m...@zos //ZOS.DATASET local.file todsn -ssh m...@zos //ZOS.DATASET local.file Am I missing a command name on the z/OS side, or are

Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?

2010-03-19 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Kirk Wolf Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 10:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project? John, To me its an interesting idea

Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?

2010-03-19 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of zMan Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 10:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project? On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:41 AM, McKown

Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?

2010-03-19 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 11:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project? On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:58:04 -0500

Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?

2010-03-19 Thread Natarajan Mohan
integration with z/OS project? It must be Friday. Bob Shannon It's __that__ crazy an idea? It's difficult for me to tell. I'm about 6 sigmas from any norm. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010

Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?

2010-03-19 Thread Chris Craddock
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Natarajan Mohan nmo...@edfund.org wrote: All we need is a full fledged desktop for z/OS like Gnome or KDE which then we can export over a SSH session to any Xclient. If that desktop environment is there then all your ideas is possible. BMC built one eight

Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?

2010-03-19 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Natarajan Mohan Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 11:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project? All we need is a full fledged

Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?

2010-03-19 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Craddock Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 11:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project? snip BMC built one eight years

Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?

2010-03-19 Thread Luis Andrade
Oldie but Goldie, maybe this could be a good start point: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/systems/library/es-zosbatchjavav/index.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?

2010-03-19 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Luis Andrade Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 12:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project? Oldie but Goldie, maybe this could

Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?

2010-03-19 Thread Charles Mills
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Craddock Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 9:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project? BMC built one eight years ago (System Explorer

Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?

2010-03-19 Thread Martin Packer
Apache and PHP are free and not very consumptive. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, Mainframe Performance Consultant, Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United

Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?

2010-03-19 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 12:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project? I think Chris has hit the nail

Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?

2010-03-19 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Apache and PHP are free and not very consumptive. Martin, you have what I consider a bad habit. With all the postings on IBM-Main it is difficult to understand the context of replies with no snippet from the post you are replying to. You are, in my estimation, a very intelligent and valued

Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?

2010-03-19 Thread Ted MacNEIL
How many coax attached 3270s exist in service any more? You'd be surprised. I used to work for a company that had offices in 34 countries. The main reason we couldn't convert to TCP/IP was because of the amount of green screen. New people were getting PC's, but the older ones still had 3270's

Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?

2010-03-19 Thread Martin Packer
idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project? Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Apache and PHP are free and not very consumptive. Martin, you have what I consider a bad habit. With all the postings on IBM-Main it is difficult to understand the context

Re: Crazy idea for a desktop integration with z/OS project?

2010-03-19 Thread Anton Britz
Martin, I understood your posting.. Some of us do not need a manual, to be able to understand So, you can not apologize or change your ways for every Dick, Tom and Harry... I think Note: I only posted this because it's Friday. I am amazed at all the trash some people post to this list, all