Re: I'm amazed

2010-08-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In aanlktinho3rgxzp+h6p6z_bsm_8nylku=y-2mn=bp...@mail.gmail.com, on 08/05/2010 at 10:59 AM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com said: You seem ... angry and hostile. I tend to get that way when someone responds nonsense without even understanding what they're responding to. I hope you feel better

Re: I'm amazed

2010-08-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In aanlktim8ru-sbtp19raprvnbkhfn7evco9qv8pwvj...@mail.gmail.com, on 08/04/2010 at 11:50 AM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com said: Ah. I actually was paying attention, Had you been paying attention you would have noticed that the text I quoted in 20100803124815.8e8f1f58...@smtp.patriot.net

Re: I'm amazed

2010-08-05 Thread zMan
You seem ... angry and hostile. I'm sorry to have aggravated you. I hope you feel better soon! On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net shmuel%2bibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In aanlktim8ru-sbtp19raprvnbkhfn7evco9qv8pwvj...@mail.gmail.com, on

Re: I'm amazed

2010-08-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
Post top don't please. In aanlktinddb_gap6j5mjrhfxhyknwf0jwdyv-n6uhi...@mail.gmail.com, on 08/03/2010 at 02:24 PM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com said: Nonsense. You haven't got a clue. Go to their web site and read the terms. The issues are that the requisite code to support the zBX is not

Re: I'm amazed

2010-08-04 Thread zMan
Per-user license fee for what? We're talking about Linux, IIRC. But apparently you know more than the principal zEnterprise architect -- a good trick. I'm impressed. BTW, it's not clear what their web site is -- IBM? SCO? Read it again -- read what? Clear as mud. P.S. Let's not have the

Re: I'm amazed

2010-08-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea005d5e04...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom, on 08/03/2010 at 11:29 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said: This is new to me. Are you saying that X/Open will not certify a system as UNIX unless there is a way to have per user licenses? Essentially. The

Re: I'm amazed

2010-08-04 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 10:58:36 -0400, zMan wrote: Per-user license fee for what? We're talking about Linux, IIRC. But apparently you know more than the principal zEnterprise architect -- a good trick. I'm impressed. I guess you weren't paying attention to what you were replying to. Shmuel's

Re: I'm amazed

2010-08-04 Thread zMan
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.comwrote: I guess you weren't paying attention to what you were replying to. Shmuel's comment was about Linux being certified as Unix. It has absolutely nothing to do with z/Enterprise architecture. Ah. I actually was paying

Re: I'm amazed

2010-08-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In aanlktimxlrzyeth0vd-ap46rj=lxodyte6yrygnfh...@mail.gmail.com, on 08/04/2010 at 10:58 AM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com said: IIRC. You don't. But apparently you know more than the principal zEnterprise architect I don't have to run faster than the bear; I just have to run faster than you.

Re: I'm amazed

2010-08-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In listserv%201007261656510244.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 07/26/2010 at 04:56 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: Are they downplaying support for Linux? Or is Linux not technically a flavor of Unix? There are legal issues preventing Linux from being certified. -- Shmuel

Re: I'm amazed

2010-08-03 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 6:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: I'm amazed In listserv%201007261656510244.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 07/26/2010

Re: I'm amazed

2010-08-03 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2010-08-03 15:01, McKown, John pisze: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 6:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: I'm amazed Inlistserv%201007261656510244.0

Re: I'm amazed

2010-08-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 19:34:25 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In listserv%201007261656510244.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 07/26/2010 at 04:56 PM, Paul Gilmartin said: Are they downplaying support for Linux? Or is Linux not technically a flavor of Unix? There are legal issues preventing Linux

Re: I'm amazed

2010-08-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea005d5e04...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom, on 08/03/2010 at 08:01 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said: Can you expound on this? What legal issues? The per user license fee. There's no way to collect, or even count, with the GPL. The SCO claims?

Re: I'm amazed

2010-08-03 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 10:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: I'm amazed In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea005d5e04...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom

Re: I'm amazed

2010-08-03 Thread zMan
Nonsense. The issues are that the requisite code to support the zBX is not in the distros yet. It'll be there soon. Nothing legal involved here, just mechanics. Citation: IBMers here at SHARE. On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net

Re: I'm amazed

2010-07-27 Thread Arye Shemer
Hello, I read the announcement and it is my understanding that at first only AIX will be supported, *But*, later availability announced for Linux on Intel based blades. Am I correct ? Arye. On 27 July 2010 02:03, Gainsford, Allen allen.gainsf...@hp.com wrote: Which is more interesting ?-)

Re: I'm amazed

2010-07-27 Thread Howard Brazee
On 26 Jul 2010 14:27:44 -0700, ken.porow...@cit.com (Ken Porowski) wrote: IBM makes what is claimed to be the biggest Mainframe announcement in decades and most of the traffic on this list is on the etymology of CICS and PoPs I love it. It's not like I'm going out today to buy a new mainframe.

Re: I'm amazed

2010-07-27 Thread Ken Porowski
It may be that they don't have the management piece for Linux yet Power7/AIX supported from November xBlades/Linux support is only a statement of direction for 1st half 2011 Maybe when that comes out we'll see Power7/Linux -Original Message- Kirk Wolf On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:33 PM,

Re: I'm amazed

2010-07-27 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip IBM makes what is claimed to be the biggest Mainframe announcement in decades and most of the traffic on this list is on the etymology of CICS and PoPs I love it.

Re: I'm amazed

2010-07-27 Thread Shane Ginnane
I suspect IBM wants to keep the penguin colonies appropriately corralled. Hard to tout you can support hundreds/thousands of Linuses in a (native) LPAR environment. Does Power have a z/VM analogue ?. Shane ... On Wed, Jul 28th, 2010 at 12:16 AM, Ken Porowski wrote: It may be that they don't

Re: I'm amazed

2010-07-27 Thread Henry Willard
Shane Ginnane wrote: I suspect IBM wants to keep the penguin colonies appropriately corralled. Hard to tout you can support hundreds/thousands of Linuses in a (native) LPAR environment. Does Power have a z/VM analogue ?. Not the same functionality as z/VM. There is PowerVM which is the Power7

I'm amazed

2010-07-26 Thread Ken Porowski
IBM makes what is claimed to be the biggest Mainframe announcement in decades and most of the traffic on this list is on the etymology of CICS and PoPs I love it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: I'm amazed

2010-07-26 Thread Starr, Alan
, if enterprise bigwigs will. Cheers, Alan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ken Porowski Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 14:26 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: I'm amazed IBM makes what is claimed to be the biggest

Re: I'm amazed

2010-07-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:33:50 -0700, Starr, Alan wrote: 3) Is it sufficient to support AIX but not the other flavors of Unix (if I read the announcement correctly)? Are they downplaying support for Linux? Or is Linux not technically a flavor of Unix? Or is it merely that Linux is old stuff and

Re: I'm amazed

2010-07-26 Thread Kirk Wolf
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Starr, Alan alan_st...@calpers.ca.gov wrote: It would indeed be interesting to see discussion of this biggest Mainframe announcement in decades. 3) Is it sufficient to support AIX but not the other flavors of Unix (if I read the announcement correctly)? I

Re: I'm amazed

2010-07-26 Thread Don Williams
Which is more interesting ?-) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ken Porowski Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 5:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: I'm amazed IBM makes what is claimed to be the biggest Mainframe

Re: I'm amazed

2010-07-26 Thread Gainsford, Allen
Which is more interesting ?-) No question. Especially when the CICS one is really about screwdrivers. :) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: