Re: Terminal SYSIN in TSO Logon Proc

2008-07-19 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
I would say running your CLIST, REXX, or any other language code is not TSO itself, so if other DD statements are allocated in a logon proc it is for the application, not for TSO. Sometimes people add things to a logon proc not understanding true needs, too. I have seen SYSPRINT added into

Re: Terminal SYSIN in TSO Logon Proc

2008-07-19 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Of Kenneth E Tomiak Sent: 19. heinäkuuta 2008 17:25 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Terminal SYSIN in TSO Logon Proc I would say running your CLIST, REXX, or any other language code is not TSO itself, so if other DD statements are allocated in a logon proc it is for the application, not for TSO

Re: Terminal SYSIN in TSO Logon Proc

2008-07-19 Thread Tony Harminc
2008/7/19 Kenneth E Tomiak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sometimes people add things to a logon proc not understanding true needs, too. I have seen SYSPRINT added into steps that never use it because someone thought that is where output goes. And SYSIN is where input comes from. And then it gets

Re: Terminal SYSIN in TSO Logon Proc

2008-07-19 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Even more amazing is the number of logon procs (yes, in 2008) that have a SYSUADS DD statement pointing to SYS1.UADS . Wrong on so many levels... I've seen a lot pointing to SYS1.BRODCAST, which has been dynamically allocated for years, at first use. Also, how many shops are not using

Re: Terminal SYSIN in TSO Logon Proc

2008-07-18 Thread John P Kalinich
Ed Jaffe of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 07/17/2008 02:27:44 PM: SYSIN and SYSPRINT are not used by TSO. I have never seen them coded in a TSO logon procedure. However, doing so harms nothing. They are allocated in the ServerPac logon procedure in

Terminal SYSIN in TSO Logon Proc

2008-07-17 Thread Lindy Mayfield
What is SYSIN TERM=TS used for in a TSO logon proc? What could happen if it is freed? If one needs to use it for a utility, should it be allocated back to term when finished? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Terminal SYSIN in TSO Logon Proc

2008-07-17 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lindy Mayfield Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Terminal SYSIN in TSO Logon Proc What is SYSIN TERM=TS used for in a TSO logon proc? What could

Re: Terminal SYSIN in TSO Logon Proc

2008-07-17 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Of McKown, John Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 5:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Terminal SYSIN in TSO Logon Proc -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lindy Mayfield Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN

Re: Terminal SYSIN in TSO Logon Proc

2008-07-17 Thread Tony Harminc
2008/7/17 Itschak Mugzach [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think its SYSTSIN No - that's something quite different. SYSTSIN is used when running the Terminal Monitor Program in batch (or in any non-terminal environment). The TMP reads command input from SYSTSIN in that case, but it is unrelated to SYSIN.

Re: Terminal SYSIN in TSO Logon Proc

2008-07-17 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Itschak Mugzach Sent: 17. heinäkuuta 2008 20:20 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Terminal SYSIN in TSO Logon Proc I think its SYSTSIN Itschak | Itschak Mugzach | Director | SecuriTeam Software | | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Terminal SYSIN in TSO Logon Proc

2008-07-17 Thread Edward Jaffe
Lindy Mayfield wrote: This would be a moot point if there wasn't at least one sentence about it in the TSO documentation. http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ikj4b480/3.2.3.2 Not a whole sentence, but a half sentence that says, ... and specify that SYSIN and SYSPRINT

Re: Terminal SYSIN in TSO Logon Proc

2008-07-17 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 2:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Terminal SYSIN in TSO Logon Proc SNIP SYSIN and SYSPRINT are not used by TSO. I have never seen them

Re: Terminal SYSIN in TSO Logon Proc

2008-07-17 Thread Itschak Mugzach
: Terminal SYSIN in TSO Logon Proc Lindy Mayfield wrote: This would be a moot point if there wasn't at least one sentence about it in the TSO documentation. http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ikj4b480/3. 2.3.2 Not a whole sentence, but a half sentence that says