I haven't looked lately; does it contain the noun RAX ?? or the 2848
controller and the 2260 display terminal?
Michael Stack wrote:
I dunno. My personal completeness measure would be the presence of
the term GOVRFLB. No particular reason - I just like to pronounce it.
Mike
At 01:26 PM
IIRC, the DIRF bit was implemented because of a problem in DADSM causing
overlapping tracks on 2314 volumes in a shared DASD environment with 2
controllers (2314 2844). I was playing systems programmer at NIH in the
late '60s thru the early '80s and we ran into the problem with horrific
results.
, 2007 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: Where did the term clip come from?
On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 15:30 -0500, Rick Fochtman wrote:
According to the source code ...
You are one twisted individual ... ;-)
Every time I moved house she what must be obeyed mandated a clean-out
of my (remaining) old hoardings
Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was taught theat CLIP meant CHANGE LABEL IN PLACE.
IN PLACE as opposed to what? Unmounting the 2314 and using a Sharpie?
Whoever taught you that made it up and hadn't thought it thru, methinks...
...phsiii
Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was taught theat CLIP meant CHANGE LABEL IN PLACE.
IN PLACE as opposed to what? Unmounting the 2314 and using a
Sharpie?
Whoever taught you that made it up and hadn't thought it thru,
methinks...
...phsiii
Actually in place as opposed to the
On Fri, 11 May 2007 07:59:26 -0400, Phil Smith III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was taught theat CLIP meant CHANGE LABEL IN PLACE.
IN PLACE as opposed to what? Unmounting the 2314 and using a Sharpie?
Whoever taught you that made it up and hadn't thought
Phil Smith III wrote:
Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was taught theat CLIP meant CHANGE LABEL IN PLACE.
IN PLACE as opposed to what? Unmounting the 2314 and using a Sharpie?
Whoever taught you that made it up and hadn't thought it thru, methinks...
...phsiii
In a message dated 5/11/2007 10:24:42 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
No, I think it was because a DASD label could be UPDATED IN PLACE, as
opposed to CREATED.
You either create a volume label on the label track when there is no label
record there in the first
the term clip come from?
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Subject: Re: Where did the term clip come from?
Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 09:11:16 -0500
On Fri, 11 May 2007 07:59:26 -0400, Phil Smith III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was taught theat CLIP meant CHANGE LABEL IN PLACE.
IN PLACE as opposed to what
COBOL is not highly regarded in IBM; few people in IBM choose to program in
the language.
Yes, BUT.
IBM better darn well diddly dad burn better continue to support it.
I know many companies that live and die based on COBOL code.
Banks, especially in Canada.
The University of Waterloo stopped
On 10 May 2007 08:54:33 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John Eells
The IBM Jargon Dictionary confirms my recollection that it
came from Change Label Information Program.
On Thu, 10 May 2007 10:42:18 -0400, John Eells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The IBM Jargon Dictionary confirms my recollection that it came
from Change Label Information Program.
http://www.comlay.net/ibmjarg.pdf
--
John Eells
z/OS Technical Marketing
IBM Poughkeepsie
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
That IBM
On Fri, 11 May 2007 11:50:27 EDT, IBM Mainframe Discussion List
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Then there was DITTO - DOS Inter-file something-or-other Transfer
Operations (I think).
Bill Fairchild
Plainfield, IL
Data Interfile Transfer, Testing, and Operations. ?? Sound about right?!
...mhyI
Sure set it on and recompute free space for a new format 5?
Bill
From: Mark H. Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Where did the term clip come from?
Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 13:26:30 -0500
On Thu, 10 May
On Thu, 10 May 2007 15:30:29 -0500, Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
-snip--
IBM Jargon Dictionary notwithstanding, I recall the title of the program
as Change/Create Label Information Program.
At 07:59 -0400 on 05/11/2007, Phil Smith III wrote about Re: Where
did the term clip come from?:
Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was taught theat CLIP meant CHANGE LABEL IN PLACE.
IN PLACE as opposed to what? Unmounting the 2314 and using a
Sharpie? Whoever taught you that made
---snip---
COBOL is not dead; it's just on extended life support.
Heck, I wrote my first COBOL programme in 20+ years, six months ago. I
was showing our application developers (COBOL programmers) hoiw to
exploit an API.
-snip---
Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was taught theat CLIP meant CHANGE LABEL IN PLACE.
IN PLACE as opposed to what? Unmounting the 2314 and using a
Sharpie? Whoever taught you that made it up and hadn't thought it
thru,
-snip
-snip--
IBM Jargon Dictionary notwithstanding, I recall the title of the program
as Change/Create Label Information Program.
unsnip-
-snip
Hey Rick, I sent you an email offline earlier about getting a copy of
the source code. Or was that G next to: (available on requestG) just
for Samp;G's? (Giggles or Grins?).
--unsnip-
Being
I dunno. My personal completeness measure would be the presence of
the term GOVRFLB. No particular reason - I just like to pronounce it.
Mike
At 01:26 PM 5/11/2007 -0500, you wrote:
...
That IBM *jargon dictionary* is GREAT. But it lacks one important def from
*back-in-the-day*
DIRF
At 08:43 PM 5/11/2007 -0500, you wrote:
...
I'm sitting here looking at the original CLIP manual, from 40+ years
ago, and the title says Clip/360: Change/Create Label
Identification Program For System/360 DASD And Tape and the authors
are identified as J. B. Blomquist and M. J. Franco. Since
The IBM Jargon Dictionary confirms my recollection that it came
from Change Label Information Program.
http://www.comlay.net/ibmjarg.pdf
Of course, we use ICKDSF nowadays.
Bruce McKnight wrote:
Greetings all,
Does anyone know where the term clip came from?
snip
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John Eells
z/OS
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John Eells
The IBM Jargon Dictionary confirms my recollection that it
came from Change Label Information Program.
http://www.comlay.net/ibmjarg.pdf
Neat book!
Here's one from there of possible interest to Bill
-snip--
IBM Jargon Dictionary notwithstanding, I recall the title of the program
as Change/Create Label Information Program.
unsnip-
According to the source code (available on requestG), the
On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 15:30 -0500, Rick Fochtman wrote:
According to the source code ...
You are one twisted individual ... ;-)
Every time I moved house she what must be obeyed mandated a clean-out
of my (remaining) old hoardings.
Nothing that old would have survived - even fiche.
Shane ...
--snip---
According to the source code ...
You are one twisted individual ... ;-)
Every time I moved house she what must be obeyed mandated a clean-out
of my (remaining) old hoardings.
Nothing that old would have survived - even fiche.
I yield to the expansions, but the term predates System/360.
I remember a Software CE ordering a copy for us back in 1969 and getting
something unuseable.
I was present when he called home and said: No, I want it for a /360.
It was a very small and very useful little deck.
--
Phil Payne
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