Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-15 Thread R.S.
Ted MacNEIL wrote: All too often, a senior manager will get a fixation on a particular platform, ignoring all others, to the ultimate detriment of his company. The platform should be the last thing determined; NOT the first. RULE 1: Determine the application need RULE 2: Keep the data as

Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-15 Thread Phil Payne
Sorry - can't less this pass. I've got it wrong a few times. The ones that embarrass me the most: a) MacDonalds opening in Germany. Germany has a long history of family-friendly eateries, mostly Italian-themed, but many Greek etc., mostly offering quite high quality food at very reasonable

Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-15 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:10:34 -, Phil Payne wrote: And the last hurdle is that you effectively have to be 'voted in' by the incumbent team. Somehow, that never happened. Giggle. While I've never met you personally, I have followed your posts on IBM-MAIN. It's inconceivable to me that

Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-15 Thread Ken Porowski
But the messages were probably only 16 bytes long 'Happy New Year !' Or less than 1 MiB a second, 641 GiB total. Certainly within Mainframe capabilities ;-) -Original Message- Phil Payne b) GSM text messaging. I got a Nokia 1011 within days of GSM going live in Europe. 160 byte

Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-15 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip--- The great thing about Gartner is they believe everything. It doesn't matter what strategy you espouse, you will find a Gartner Research Service that will back you up. And such a company cannot be wrong, can it? I've had several recruitment run-ins

Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-15 Thread Howard Brazee
On 14 Jan 2008 17:45:10 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Gould) wrote: RULE #2: I am not sure I agree with you on this one. Most of the time it is the case but there are times I do not think it is wise(or useful). There are other cases that it serves no purpose to keep the data as close to the

Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-15 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Does this mean, in physical location? Or does this mean logically close? What I meant was the data shouldn't have to make a network trip to remote disk everytime you do a read/write. The application could be remote from the user, but the data should reside with/near it. - Too busy driving to

Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-15 Thread Ed Gould
On Jan 15, 2008, at 12:21 PM, Rick Fochtman wrote: ---SNIP- -unsnip--- I've worked with recruiters and HR types with the same mindset. Names omitted to protect the terminally stupid. Rick: I have gone on an

Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-15 Thread Ed Gould
On Jan 15, 2008, at 12:49 PM, Howard Brazee wrote: On 14 Jan 2008 17:45:10 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Gould) wrote: RULE #2: I am not sure I agree with you on this one. Most of the time it is the case but there are times I do not think it is wise(or useful). There are other cases that it

Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-14 Thread Rick Fochtman
--snip- In the late 1980's, Gartner predicted that any company that didn't move from the mainframe to client/server would not be in business for very long. In the mid-to-late 1990's, the same analyst said that companies were having problems migrating to

Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-14 Thread Rick Fochtman
--snip- WAAAy back in the 70's and 80's I vaguely remember they had a decent reputation. Does anyone know what happened to them? --unsnip- They forgot that a closed mouth gathers no feet.

Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-14 Thread Ted MacNEIL
All too often, a senior manager will get a fixation on a particular platform, ignoring all others, to the ultimate detriment of his company. The platform should be the last thing determined; NOT the first. RULE 1: Determine the application need RULE 2: Keep the data as close to the application

Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-14 Thread Ted MacNEIL
They forgot that a closed mouth gathers no feet. I NEVER really believd them! I used to kid a friend of mine (re: dark sied) when he went to work for them in the early 1990's. But, he went for one reason. A buck and a half US (when the USD was worth something compared to the CAD). - Too busy

Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-14 Thread Ed Gould
On Jan 14, 2008, at 12:21 PM, Ted MacNEIL wrote: All too often, a senior manager will get a fixation on a particular platform, ignoring all others, to the ultimate detriment of his company. The platform should be the last thing determined; NOT the first. RULE 1: Determine the application

Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-13 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
In the late 1980's, Gartner predicted that any company that didn't move from the mainframe to client/server would not be in business for very long. In the mid-to-late 1990's, the same analyst said that companies were having problems migrating to c/s, and they had probably jumped on the

Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-13 Thread Ed Gould
On Jan 14, 2008, at 1:07 AM, Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3) wrote: In the late 1980's, Gartner predicted that any company that didn't move from the mainframe to client/server would not be in business for very long. In the mid-to-late 1990's, the same analyst said that companies were having problems

Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
In the late 1980's, Gartner predicted that any company that didn't move from the mainframe to client/server would not be in business for very long. In the mid-to-late 1990's, the same analyst said that companies were having problems migrating to c/s, and they had probably jumped on the

Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-11 Thread Field, Alan C.
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelman, Tom Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 14:31 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Worst Predictions of All Time Other posters alluded to these predictions: I predict that the last mainframe

Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-11 Thread Anton Britz
Hi, Is there a possibility that we can limit these general whaffle type postings to one or two per week per person. Things we can account to being lonely in your hole ? Some of us, are constantly posting general type posting ex. What your GRandmother likes etc. into this list. We all love

Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
She forgot the one from the half wit who predicted the date time of the shutdown of the last mainframe. In the late 1980's, Gartner predicted that any company that didn't move from the mainframe to client/server would not be in business for very long. In the mid-to-late 1990's, the same

Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-11 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Day Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 3:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Worst Predictions of All Time OK, Here's a useful question for Anton Anton, have you taken

Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-11 Thread Kirk Talman
the quote from John von Neumann. In an article in The Futurist magazine, writer Laura Lee catalogues some of the worst predictions of all time: Inventions have long since reached their limit, and I see no hope for further developments. -Roman engineer Julius Sextus Frontinus, A.D. 100

Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-11 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Thorn Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 2:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Worst Predictions of All Time She forgot the one from the half wit who predicted the date time

Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-11 Thread Don Leahy
To get back on topic (more or less) here is a list of some dubious career advice that I've been given over the years: 1981 : Stay away from COBOL...it's a dead language. 1982: Structured analysis, structured design, structured code...everything else is crap 1983: There won't be any more batch

Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-11 Thread Kelman, Tom
Well, since it is Friday I thought I'd post a little humor item, especially considering the quote from John von Neumann. In an article in The Futurist magazine, writer Laura Lee catalogues some of the worst predictions of all time: Inventions have long since reached their limit, and I see

Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-11 Thread Dave Thorn
She forgot the one from the half wit who predicted the date time of the shutdown of the last mainframe. Dave Thorn * Senior Technology Analyst * SunGard Computer Services * 600 Laurel Oak Road, Voorhees, NJ, 08043 Tel 856 566-5412 * Mobile 609 781-0353 * Fax 856 566-3656 CONFIDENTIALITY: This

Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
And the one about a certain company that decided to not get into making computers because they would only see a need for 7 in the US (did I remember that one right?). And, we would only need 16MB or 640KB. And, never need a personal computer at home. - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-11 Thread David Day
OK, Here's a useful question for Anton Anton, have you taken all your meds today? - Original Message - From: Anton Britz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 3:14 PM Subject: Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-11 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirk Talman Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 3:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Worst Predictions of All Time [snip} Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons