In preparation of driver67L which for us includes changing to CFLevel15 we also
checked structure sizes (again). I was informed for the first time that the
sizer is completely useless, as it only accepts 9 locks for the IRLM
structures (IMS and DB2), and in our installation, a single
Barbara Nitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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In preparation of driver67L which for us includes changing to
CFLevel15 we also checked structure sizes (again). I was informed for
the first time that the sizer is completely useless, as it only accepts
9 locks for the
Kees,
come on! :-)
This is the category of freeware internet toolz, warez etc. etc. If they
work, they work, if they don't you have bad luck. The price/performance
ratio also prevents you from complaining.
This is the new IT world where cellphones, ipods etc. have such a short
lifecycle that it
The Rexx IRXIC (Trace and Execution control) allows one to enter some
commands like TS for trace start.
Would something like this work? I initialize an environment with
IRXINIT, replace the Input/Output routine with my own , run IRXIC with
TS command to turn on tracing, then run an exec with
For those of you living in the Denver area, this
movie (which I mentioned here in passing a few
weeks ago) is showing at the Starz theatres in
the old Tivoli brewing complex on the Auraria
campus.
It's an OK flick. It uses the hook of a Seattle
based manager having to go to India to train the
Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:01:58 -0700, Steve Comstock wrote:
And I might mention that DUMMY is __required__. We had some jobs that
ran with SYSIN being a DD *, but with no control cards. This is,
technically, equivalent to DUMMY, but not by ICEGENER. The same applies
to an
In a message dated 1/16/2008 6:50:56 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Totally ignores the effects
of outsourcing on the workers in Seattle who lost
their jobs. But, hey, it's Hollywood.
Maybe there's an Indian movie that concentrates on the effects of insourcing
on
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:18:05 -0800, Ron Hawkins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Carl,
I'll take a WAG that you are rewinding the tape at the close of every output
file on the cartridge, and then repositioning to the end of the last file to
write the next file in sequence.
Using DFSMSdss logical dump
Fellow listers,
We have some batch jobs that run early in the morning, create a file,
then FTP it to a server in our network. We had one of the jobs fail to
FTP, getting the message:
EZA2589E Connection to server interrupted or timed out. Initial
connection
At that time, when we tried to
Greg Shirey wrote:
Fellow listers,
We have some batch jobs that run early in the morning, create a file,
then FTP it to a server in our network. We had one of the jobs fail to
FTP, getting the message:
EZA2589E Connection to server interrupted or timed out. Initial
connection
At that
I just downloaded the DADSM program from the CBT site file 527. I used that
program for a long time at PH Mining. I originally got it from a tape maybe
20 years ago that was put together by Dale Chaney, who used to be an IBM SE,
and put together a whole bunch of shareware on a tape way back
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 08:08:39 -0600, McKown, John
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Subject: IDCAMS Repro vs ICETOOL
Anyone got a url for the IBM Announcements web site.
Jim McAlpine
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Jim McAlpine wrote:
Anyone got a url for the IBM Announcements web site.
Jim McAlpine
Try this:
http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/index.wss
Kind regards,
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Is there a way to automate the shutdown of z/OS? I hate having to follow a
script, typing all of the commands to stop tasks.
Also, is there a command to stop syslogd, other than to cancel it?
Thanks very much.
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Mark Pace
Mainline Information Systems
Mark Pace wrote:
Is there a way to automate the shutdown of z/OS? I hate having to follow a
script, typing all of the commands to stop tasks.
Also, is there a command to stop syslogd, other than to cancel it?
Thanks very much.
Er, that is what an automated operations product does. It
On 1/16/08, Steve Comstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jim McAlpine wrote:
Anyone got a url for the IBM Announcements web site.
Jim McAlpine
Try this:
http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/index.wss
Kind regards,
-Steve Comstock
The Trainer's Friend, Inc.
Thanks for the link. However
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Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 10:40 PM
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Subject: IDCAMS Repro vs ICETOOL
We have a series of jobs that use IDCAMS to move data from one platform
to another.
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/14/2008
at 03:12 PM, Gary Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
UWaterloo allum, huh... Ever encounter 'P1'? ggg
It was a load of laughs. Of course, that wasn't what the author intended
;-)
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ISO position; see
Might I be the only one to think that the last two IBM alerts are quite weird?
Sorry, cannot provide details of them as they are under an NDA - but those who
are also signed to the NDA - do they seem weird to you as well?
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http://www.dissensoftware.com
Jim McAlpine wrote:
On 1/16/08, Steve Comstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jim McAlpine wrote:
Anyone got a url for the IBM Announcements web site.
Jim McAlpine
Try this:
http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/index.wss
Kind regards,
-Steve Comstock
The Trainer's Friend, Inc.
Thanks for
It's announcement letter 907-053 dated March 27, 2007.
After a bit of trial-and-error on that page, I hit the advanced search
button, kept the search type of announcement letter, set a date range of
2006-2008, and user 3490* as my product number. I got a reasonable 8
hits to my search and was
Sorry, Steve. I didn't see your reply until after I had hit send on
mine.
Rex
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Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 9:15 AM
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Subject: Re: IBM announcements
I have been reading the z/OS V1.7 to V1.9 Migration guide and though it states
you do not need to remove IMBED, REPLCIATE or KEYRANGE. It does mention that
there is a performance issue by having them on your VSAM files.
I was wondering if anyone did an analysis to see what the buy back for
On 1/16/08, Steve Comstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Did you just click on the Go button for
Jump to most recent announcement letters?
Or did you type in 3490 in the Keywords search box
and click Go? I got:
End of service: Machine Type 3490, selected models
announcement letter 907-503
Straight through? As Al posted, we have teeth marks on our backsides
because the posting person got distracted. More, we were on the
committee that invented dirt know that human intervention always fails
now and again. Always. But IBM has taken quite a hard line.
I would love to implement a
Ed Gould wrote on 01/15/2008 09:07:38 PM:
I believe (even
if you concatenate) each concatenation has to be in a higher
sequence than the file ahead of the concatenation (all records still
must be in the right sequence) so (if) you can concatenate the
records must be in sequence. I hope I said
Bruce,
Not at all. In fact, that is part of the appropriate education that will
be taking place with RMF.
-Marna WALLE
z/OS System Build and Install
IBM Poughkeepsie
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IIRC, these features caused index entries to be embedded in the data and then
replicated to fill out a partially used CI/CA. The idea was to minimize
arm/head movement and rotational latency as VSAM tried to satisfied a random
read request. It follows that performance implications would vary
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:53:24 -0500, Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a way to automate the shutdown of z/OS? I hate having to follow a
script, typing all of the commands to stop tasks.
Of course there are automation products that you can by to take care of
this. There some free
I would think IMBED could degrade performance when doing sequential I/O.
Given enough buffers, VSAM can read in as much as an entire CA's worth of
data with each I/O. Since IMBED would take an entire track away from your
CA size, then your CA is significantly smaller and less data can be returned
Yes, SAS can produce a PDF file on the mainframe. It can include tables,
text, and graphics. I usually mail the result to myself using the SAS
email engine so I don't have to do a manual FTP (we don't have shared
drives).
It can also produce an XML file that Excel knows how to read as a
I will be out of the office starting 16/01/2008 and will not return until
21/01/2008.
I will respond to your message when I return.
Stephen Flavell is my team leader should you need to contact someone in the
JTC before my return.
Binyamin Dissen wrote:
Might I be the only one to think that the last two IBM alerts are quite weird?
Sorry, cannot provide details of them as they are under an NDA - but those who
are also signed to the NDA - do they seem weird to you as well?
I'll be equally obtuse...no, doesn't seem weird at
EMC announced DMX4 disk system ...without disks. Flash memory would be
used as a disk module.
Questions/observations:
1. End of magnetic platters ?
2. Another level of virtualization (or translation). Flash device
emulates disk module. Disk modules are used for CKD emulation.
3. Maybe there is
EMC announced DMX4 disk system ...without disks. Flash memory would be
used as a disk module
Simply back to the future again. Solid state devices were prevalent twenty or
so years ago. Still, with today's technology it makes sense. Hopefully it will
provide both better performance (no seek
Binyamin Dissen wrote:
Might I be the only one to think that the last two IBM alerts are quite weird?
Sorry, cannot provide details of them as they are under an NDA - but those who
are also signed to the NDA - do they seem weird to you as well?
They're just trying to make sure nobody gets
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (copied from the newsgroup):
Does anyone know if there is a market for used Sysplex Timers? We're
getting rid of ours and have heard rumors that other companies are
willing to buy. Is that true? How much could we get?
I'm sure there is some sort of secondary market
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/10/2008
at 10:44 AM, Gerhard Postpischil [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Or that Marty insisted on running Roscoe with TIME=1440,
Cramer, not Goetz.
(Marty dared Shmuel/Seymour to do something about it
No, he just said that they'd be done before I had the code in place
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/14/2008
at 04:38 PM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Historically, many programs have had RECFM, LRECL, and sometimes BLKSIZE
hard coded in DCB macros.
And not documented :-(
(Usually the troublemaker would remember to specify a member name.)
Ah, yes.
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/15/2008
at 05:46 PM, Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
as the TMP has no other way to signify EOF to the program.
The TMP isn't involved; it's handled in the access method.
BTW, if you allocate a DASD data set for SYSIN, *DON'T* put a /* at the
end.
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
01/06/2008
at 09:08 PM, Lindy Mayfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Anyway, whoohoo, I found what I was looking for (sort of) the thing which
started me on this thread. It's hung off of the TIOT which I looked at
up and down for ages. But it's not an address. It's a 3
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 Barbara Nitz wrote:
Yes, you're competely right. There is no defined support structure for the
tool.
The last time I loudly complained here about the sizer (which was a few years
back) Bill Neiman of XCF development came forward and looked at the problem
and fixed it. I am
---snip---
I have not done a merge in *YEARS*, having said that I believe (even if
you concatenate) each concatenation has to be in a higher sequence
than the file ahead of the concatenation (all records still must be in
the right sequence) so (if) you can
Re: Getting datasets allocated to a job.
Would you give me a hint, please, which field in the TIOT connects me
with the datasets allocated to that DD name?
I've looked and looked and the SWA to JFCB was all I could see. I feel
so dumb sometimes because this stuff is so hard, but on the other
Lindy,
Take a look at the CBT Tape. There should be a program out there called
CONCAT (or similar). At my last shop, we used this program to, among
others, add a personal Clist/REXX library to the TSO session's //SYSPROC DD
concatenation.
OK, so looking at the code might be considered cheating a
If you have the JFCB then you have the Dataset Name.
Jon L. Veilleux
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(860) 636-2683
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On 16 Jan 2008 07:47:20 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kelman,
Tom) wrote:
I agree. I think that a background in anything that is logically and
mathematical is the best training for programming. I once worked with a
fellow that had a degree in music. Although being a musician requires
an artistic
Wow. It was written in '73. I was 8. The style of writing is so
different from today's style. It makes me feel weird looking at that,
like in a time warp or something.
And it still works. I think of all the cool IBM DOS software I spent so
much time collecting and had to throw away when
Thanks Mark and Jack for the responses. Since then, the network guys
admitted to changing something on the server. They blamed the
intermittent problem with communicating from the mainframe on the router
that connects the mainframe to the network -- something about how it has
to hold a lot of
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 07:45:34 -0600, Greg Shirey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, my question to this esteemed group is what is there in the mainframe
IP environment could intermittently cause PING to fail? (And only to a
particular server - I set up a REXX to PING 5 servers, go to sleep for
30
In a message dated 1/16/2008 10:17:07 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
students with non-Computer Science backgrounds attempt a Master's degree.
Some were more natural at it than others, and those with the following two
undergraduate majors seemed the best able to
Not to comment on any reply in particular but rather to state the
obvious:-)...
I always say the estimates from CFSizer are a STARTING point. For example
GBPs AREN'T going to be sized well from CFSizer.
But this DOESN'T detract from Barbara's problem with CFSizer.
Sorry to get
HI,
In PC and open system a lot of products are delivered to customer with the
knowledge that their product have bugs and a lot of bugs but testing the
product by users can assist to debug the product and to have comments from
the users about the product in its current status.
Sometime I believe
About this, I asked IBM. Bottom line, can't be done according to
published specs. When you connect the dots, the docs do say that you
cannot replace the IO routines and run TSO commands. My bad for not
reading it (even though I'd read through those docs looking for this for
just over a year
Excellent suggestion. However, IIRC, Hiperbatch doesn't support BSAM.
db
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Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:14 AM
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Subject: Re: DFSORT question
2)
I could be wrong, but doesn't SMS stop IMBED and REPLICATE being used now
anyway? Maybe it is under some circumstances (extended format?).
Whatever, duplicating a index CI around a whole track is going to cost
time during index updates. I am not current on the latest dasd and
caching, but I
I could be wrong, but doesn't SMS stop IMBED and REPLICATE being used now
anyway?
But, on existing files the parameters are still there.
If you specify the parms in an IDCAMS job, they are ignored -- no syntax error.
The file won't have them. It's not due to SMS, rather DFP.
I modified VCLONE
There are LOTS of things to say on this topic and you should check out the
manuals. Most importantly,
1) Make certain you know the differences (and interaction) between the
Linker/Binder AMODE/RMODE settings and the compiler options for this (DATA
and RMODE compiler options)
2) Are you talking
Only thing that I think of as a gotcha is that there is no direct way to
limit the number of SP address spaces. If your application runs amok,
you might face a pageable storage shortage.
db
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On Jan 16, 2008, at 5:28 AM, Barbara Nitz wrote:
---SNIP
The thing is, when I tried the OEM Lock structure with my 15
locks, I go an 'unexpected MQ error' or some such thing, and that
OEM Lock structure allows more than 6 digits as input So I am
really out of
Ron,
Netspool is part of Infoprint Server. A long long time ago it used to
be available stand-alone, but no more.
--Roger
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 01/16/2008
08:59:06 AM:
Anyone use/used IBM's Netspool
Question isis it dependent on
In [EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 01/10/2008
at 06:38 PM, Van Dalsen, Herbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
All I can say is this... It amazes my that a sysprog with a gripe this
size, have not put this fingers to the keyboard and wrote a utility to
automatically invoke a spellchecker inside your email
Spell checkers in the real world are only useful
to authors, and then only when used selectively.
I do not have a spell checker on my BlackBerry.
So, I attempt to be diligent on any message I send out.
Also, a spell checker (in general) would not catch the LOOSE vs LOSE conundrum.
-
Too busy
I have an address space with status NFS in a D A, command, this address
spaces can not be canceled or force in any way. Any comment?
Thanks
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But a grammar checker does...
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Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 4:54 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] loose vs. lose
Spell checkers in the real world are
Larry,
Swings and roundabouts I think. IMBED would cause the sequence set to be
pre-fetched along with the data and not pushed out by other cache activity.
One cache miss is a lifetime compared to a cache hit on FE4.
Sequential pre-fetch operates on a far wider stripe then one CYL (up to 64
Yet another brain-fart... a bad week :-(
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Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 2:46 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
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Excellent suggestion.
B2F especially when you look at Moshe and EMC's history.. What goes around
comes around.
But I don't expect they'll be making furniture again :-)
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Sent: Wednesday, January 16,
ADCD also comes with startup/shutdown STCs. Mine for example, looks like
this (and as you can see uses a control file out of PARMLIB):
BROWSEADCD.ZOSV1R5.PROCLIB(SHUTDOWN) - 01.00 Line Col 001
080
Command === Scroll ===
CSR
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Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 10:40 PM
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Subject: IDCAMS Repro vs ICETOOL
We have a series of jobs
--- Ron Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Carl,
I'll take a WAG that you are rewinding the tape at
the close of every output
file on the cartridge, and then repositioning to the
end of the last file to
write the next file in sequence.
First thought that came to mind, but not the case. BTW
I thought the group be interested in the comments from an IBM system
Programmer about Mainframe costs. The article is at:
http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/tip/
0,289483,sid80_gci1293863,00.html?
track=NL-576ad=620634asrc=EM_NLN_2899342uid=6570353
(watch the wrap)
Systems programmers
On Jan 16, 2008, at 11:02 AM, Bob Shannon wrote:
EMC announced DMX4 disk system ...without disks. Flash memory
would be
used as a disk module
Simply back to the future again. Solid state devices were prevalent
twenty or so years ago. Still, with today's technology it makes
sense.
I remember seeing the blurb about OA18929 on IBM-Main several weeks ago:
DFSMSdss has been changed in APAR OA18929 to perform a volume INIT
when FCWITHDRAW is specified on the DUMP when it is detected that it is
needed.
After verifying we had OA18929 installed, I decided to test out
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:01:51 +0100, Lindy Mayfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
About this, I asked IBM. Bottom line, can't be done according to
published specs. When you connect the dots, the docs do say that you
cannot replace the IO routines and run TSO commands. My bad for not
reading it (even
I agree. I think that a background in anything that is logically and
mathematical is the best training for programming. I once worked with a
fellow that had a degree in music. Although being a musician requires
an artistic ability it is also very logical and mathematical. He was an
excellent
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Gould) writes:
You have hit it the head. We had a unit that emulated a 2305 (don't
remember which model) it worked well . except when we
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I have an address space with status NFS in a D A, command, this
address
spaces can not be canceled or force in any way. Any comment?
Thanks
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